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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:07:07 PM EDT
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Yeah, they are trying to turn this into a political death blow because they already hate the person involved. They make a bunch of noise and hyperbole, then accuse people of defending Cruella from 101 Dalmations

Dean Obeidallah from CNN had this to say:

Noem — a top contender to be former President Donald Trump’s running mate in this year’s presidential election — reportedly writes in her book that she took the pup, a wirehaired pointer who was proving to be high-spirited and something of a handful, to a gravel pit and shot him.

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I heard jon carl on abc this morning blathering on about it.  Figured she must be associated with Trump, cause all that egg headed twerp does is shit on Trump.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:07:40 PM EDT
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No one, save for sociopaths, can put down a pet and "not feel a thing".

It's horrifying because it's a horrific thing to do. But there are situations that demand it.

Aside from trolling, I can't find any merit to the OP's question.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:09:38 PM EDT
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Not horrified one bit she is a politician. Politicians have to have psychopathic tendencies to screw us over and steal from us.
Reading some of the comments here only shows the lack and care for life itself. One poster said "If the animal cannot fulfill that function,
then it becomes a waste of resources that can be better used elsewhere..." As if life itself is viewed through the lens of a resource. This
is a very Satanic mindset. The same way you view animals is the same way the Satanists view you! Because you serve no purpose to them
they want you exterminated. Ironic it seems yet the Beauty of the Principle of Correspondence in effect. As long we we view animals and other life as
resources we will continue to take advantage of and exploit them... As long as we have this mindset we will continue to be exploited by the Satanists...
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:11:13 PM EDT
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I just put my cat of 20 years down. It sucked.

I did it to ease her suffering. Taking her for a 45 min ride to the vet would have made it harder on her. She hated any kind traveling.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:14:10 PM EDT
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Watched my dad choke my dog to death when I was a kid. We were checking on a new calf and my dog started to chase it. Dad grabbed his collar and the dog snapped at him. Dead dog right on the spot.

I believe dogs are family but they're not people.
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My grandfather came from Italy and grew up poor on a farm there.  Lets of stories from him similar to yours.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:15:10 PM EDT
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My BIL had to put down their lab. She went nuts and ran straight off a 20’ drop on their property. She was all broken but alive and in such pain. He went in and got his .38 and ended her suffering. We still don’t know what went wrong with her. She grew up roaming that property.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:16:23 PM EDT
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I would absolutely put down a problem pet or one that was in agony.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:16:27 PM EDT
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OP - would you rather let the animal suffer?

Quick story to explain city/rural life:  When we moved to the sticks and onto a decent chunk of property, folks came out of the woodwork looking for a place to send their aging animals.  Before we knew it we had a bunch of goats and llamas - all in their last 3-5 years of life.  When the first one was close to the end - a llama that gave up the fight and could no longer stand, I was talking to our mobile vet.  I asked "so she obviously needs to be put down - how does this work?".  Vet looked at me and said, "imagine a line between her eye and opposite ear - and another line from the other eye to the other ear - where the lines cross is where you want to shoot her."  He said that he could also administer a shot, but that he considered it cruel.

Fast forward 10 more years and I've had to put down 5 goats and another llama.  It sucks, but not doing it just prolongs their misery.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:21:05 PM EDT
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I had a wonderful little rat terrier that got ran over by one of my other dogs one evening.  Long story....  Didn't think he was really hurt, he was just laying around for most of the night.  Went to bed and he woke us up at 4:30 am screaming.  He yelled for a bit and relaxed.  I didn't have emergency vet money, but my SIL worked at a vet.  I sent her a text to call as soon as she woke.  In this time he did his screaming yelps a couple  more times.  We had it set up, vet was coming in early and just after 7 he passed in my arms.  

When he first started to do that, I thought I should take him in the basement and put him out of his misery, I didn't.  I knew it would fuck me up having to kill him.  But now looking back, him suffering for a few hours fucks me up probably even more than if I had done what should have been done.

Miss you Bentley...
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:23:38 PM EDT
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It's an animal. Plain and simple. Some are harder than others. The dog that tried to eat my $400 chicken, well is sitting on my lap. It's a chicken and those two had to have it out and monkey won. Plus the chicken never brought me thier favorite toy because I felt rough.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:26:02 PM EDT
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Also had a feral cat that would come into our property and TEAR UP our domesticated cats. One day he got my favorite.
Nope. He dead.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:27:03 PM EDT
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Horror is losing a person I love or having someone I love hurt.  With that perspective, putting down a pet is nowhere close to horror.

I have found people that people being "horrified" about putting down their pets is a huge red flag because they don't have the "horror" of losing someone they love and they don't value human beings more than animals.  

You witness the same disease of the soul when the leftanists and cuckservatives, even on this board, are "horrified" about someone putting down their dog but either support abortion (the murder of human babies) openly or cuck themselves to satan to permit abortion so some politician can be elected.  

If you are "horrified" at putting down a pet, then you have no idea what real fear is.   It's best to recognize that red flag and avoid those people.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:27:22 PM EDT
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That is actually the answer

I didn’t grow up on a farm, but I was going to euthanize my wonderful GSD when he was dying of cancer. I figured I could settle him outside and have some good time, then shoot him behind the ear while he was happy
Wife talked me out of it
He knew what the vet was doing and I think he died hating me for it.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:30:12 PM EDT
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I’ve killed lots of animals which were not attacking me without any remorse

I’ve also watched a dog of mine get put down, it’s heartbreaking
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that.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:31:28 PM EDT
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Just surrender your spot at the top of the food chain. Once you've acknowledged that, we don't give a shit what you think.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:32:08 PM EDT
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Propaganda works.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:33:00 PM EDT
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Not horrified per se, and it's only dogs that I have trouble with for the most part.

I don't believe in killing any animal unless I am going to eat it.  And I think dogs aren't human, but they seem more than just an animal to me.

I would never trust anyone that could callously kill their dog. No exceptions, I even looked the other way for coworkers that had sick dogs.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:37:15 PM EDT
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After a very stressful end at the vet which shook me to the core I'm done all of them myself quickly and painlessly.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:37:15 PM EDT
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Spaz*
Nip*
Freddy*
Spook
Huey
Lady*
Duchess*
Puffy*
Sweetie
Loki
Titan
Honey
Buddy
Baby
Chuggles
Turbo

When you have pets in your life putting them down is never easy. It is part of the price you must pay for their companionship.
Its the toughest act of love you will ever do.

*ones I have personally put down
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:41:57 PM EDT
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Nope. I put down our cat when he was dying. I was probably 18 or so. And grew up in farm country.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:46:50 PM EDT
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That is actually the answer

I didn’t grow up on a farm, but I was going to euthanize my wonderful GSD when he was dying of cancer. I figured I could settle him outside and have some good time, then shoot him behind the ear while he was happy
Wife talked me out of it
He knew what the vet was doing and I think he died hating me for it.
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Awful.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:50:35 PM EDT
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Horrified ?    My stupid fucking pets are the least of my concerns or some fucking animal somewhere. Country is going to shit.

I could give a shit about our pet cat or the birds. I’m more worried about my kids growing up in this socialist  democracy once known as the United States.
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I agree with this post relative to the sickening crisis engulfing America (and our kids' and grandkids' future).

However, I recall a business meeting I had in the early 2000s. The customer (avid NRA guy) told me he had recently taken his favorite (but old and sick) hunting dog to a rural river, then put a hole in the dog's head and then let the dead animal go. Very sad.

Having had to take dogs to be "put to sleep" at the vet is an awful experience. I admit I wouldn't want to have to do it myself.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:54:16 PM EDT
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My GF dad had a pretty new dog, about 8 months old. She liked to camp out under the back wheel of their vehicles. My GF got in the car and backed out before Buffy had a chance to move. Crushed her hips, back, back legs and I'm sure internal organs. She was flopping around whimpering, back legs obviously toast, paralyzed. I had a 10/22 in the car, put 2 shots into the dog's heart to put it out of its misery. We buried her and then went to lunch. Her dad had a new dog in a couple of weeks.

I used to shoot strays/feral dogs on their property...kept a 223 in the cab for dogs and coyotes that antagonized their show hogs and other livestock.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 3:56:54 PM EDT
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GD LOL.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:00:22 PM EDT
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This isn't 1895;  call the vet and have it humanely euthanized.  Anybody that's too cheap and/or stupid to do that is either an asshole, retarded, or a psychopath.

Over the course of a long life - every bit of it rural -  I've had to put down 11 dogs . . . and I was right there with the vet when the needles went in with each one. It always sucks . . . but its the very least you owe a good dog.  

The "bullet to the head and I feel nothing" crowd aren't fit to live in society, and are no doubt shit people and worse neighbors and probably have tranny tendencies; they should probably bugger off to the Middle East (emphasis on bugger) where they'd fit right in.  

The only exception is if your dog is in so much pain (say . . . hit by a car and bleeding out) that the trip to the vet would prolong it's pain and suffering.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:01:27 PM EDT
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Horrified ?    My stupid fucking pets are the least of my concerns or some fucking animal somewhere. Country is going to shit.

I could give a shit about our pet cat or the birds. I’m more worried about my kids growing up in this socialist  democracy once known as the United States.
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Part of the reason the country is going to shit is because of non-empathetic people like yourself.  If you have taken on the responsibility of a pet you need to do what is best for it, if they are the least of your concerns you are probably a psychopath.

There are two cases of having to kill a pet - one is humane euthanasia because the animal is suffering and that is very hard and I am glad my vet takes care of that normally but if my dog/cat or another person's was smashed by a car or horribly, mortally wounded and in massive pain you got to do what you have to do.  Not easy but would you rather have it suffer when it was going to die anyway?  The other is if the pet is dangerous. It sounded like Kristi Noem's dog was very aggressive in addition to ruining a hunt.  If you live by yourself on a farm in the middle of nowhere and you want to deal keeping a pet like that I am fine with it.  But most of us have kids and friends and other animals and sadly some dogs (just like some people) are born fucked-up and dangerous.  Not a fun thing to do but if an animal is truly dangerous it has to be done.  I belonged to a Golden Rescue for a long time and every couple years they got one in that could bot be fixed and it had to be put down.  It is especially sad when a bad person fucks up the dog and makes it like that but how can they let that dog go to some home when you know it will tear someone up, especially a kid?  I am not talking dog who is a bit nippy, I am talking about dogs that are psychotic and WILL bite most people, even their owners.

If someone kills a dog that is a nuisance or bored with it I would suggest the same for the person who did that.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:04:38 PM EDT
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Nope, not one bit!

My take from the article is that it was more than just the dog screwing up hunts.  It was a threat to people, she did the responsible thing, the article just sucks.

I slaughter livestock regular, whether its to put them in the freezer, or to cull sick animals.  A .22 or pocket knife usually does the job.

I'm saddened that I didn't put my dog down myself, instead of taking her to the vet, where she was scared of being!  It was my responsibility, and instead I allowed a stranger to do it.



Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:07:18 PM EDT
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My dog got out once and was hit by a car and paralyzed , it was 100% my fault as I should have kept better control over him. I  could have taken him to a vet to be put down, but he got hurt due to my negligence, and I didn’t deserve to be spared the duty to do it myself.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:07:57 PM EDT
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The perspective changes when comparing city folks and farm folks. City folks can't wrap their heads around animals being possessions/tools which are expected to fulfill a function. If the animal cannot fulfill that function, then it becomes a waste of resources that can be better used elsewhere.
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No it doesn't.

Animals raised to be food aren't conflated with dogs/cats/pets.  They aren't the same.

Herding dogs are working animals, but I know of not one single farmer who shoots a herding dog that can't work anymore.  

I know plenty of hardcore coon hunters.  I don't know a single one that's been put down a coon hound due to training issues like treeing possum.  They've been given away as pets.

There are breeders around here that kill puppies that don't meet the breed standard.  I think they're shitty and lazy people.


I've read plenty of the false machismo posts on arf about killing dogs.  Like most of the brag posts, I believe they're full of shit.  This site is rife with betas masquerading as "big men"
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:09:56 PM EDT
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I've only owned one dog in my adult life. She died of natural causes on her tenth birthday.

She had been declining and I would've put her down had her suffering increased, but I thank God that he took her before it came to that.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:10:30 PM EDT
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My grandfather came from Italy and grew up poor on a farm there.  Lets of stories from him similar to yours.
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Watched my dad choke my dog to death when I was a kid. We were checking on a new calf and my dog started to chase it. Dad grabbed his collar and the dog snapped at him. Dead dog right on the spot.

I believe dogs are family but they're not people.
My grandfather came from Italy and grew up poor on a farm there.  Lets of stories from him similar to yours.


Just because daddy did it, doesn't make it right.

Dad who chokes a dog to death in front of his kid.  Father of the year material.


Just because they did it that way in the old days, doesn't make it right or relevant in modern times.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:19:05 PM EDT
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She liked to camp out under the back wheel of their vehicles. My GF got in the car and backed out before Buffy had a chance to move. Crushed her hips, back, back legs and I'm sure internal organs. She was flopping around whimpering, back legs obviously toast, paralyzed.
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She liked to camp out under the back wheel of their vehicles. My GF got in the car and backed out before Buffy had a chance to move. Crushed her hips, back, back legs and I'm sure internal organs. She was flopping around whimpering, back legs obviously toast, paralyzed.


A friend in high school came in one day with an incredible story - his mom backed over their cat that morning taking his little sister to school, but kitty didn't die.  Little sister was freaking out screaming and crying, mom was a cop and carried the cat onto the grass and shot it with her police gun while his sister was screaming.  This was in their front yard in the suburbs!  Mom grabbed a shovel, quickly buried kitty in the flower bed, and shuffled his sister off to school.  

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This isn't 1895;  call the vet and have it humanely euthanized. ............
The only exception is if your dog is in so much pain (say . . . hit by a car and bleeding out) that the trip to the vet would prolong it's pain and suffering.

I own my old family farm, it's rural enough that a vet is an hour away if it's working hours.  After hours, bad weather, etc. can easily mean a couple hours to get to a vet.
I'm not in the camp that says going to the vet for an overpriced poison shot is always better.... Plenty of pets are terrified of the vet clinic.  Why would you want your pet's last memory to be going to a place that he is scared of?  
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:21:09 PM EDT
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Horror is watching someone die of cancer.  I was brought up that you shot your own dog.  As a vet explained to my wife, shooting them is quicker than the drugs, this was with one of her horses.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:24:25 PM EDT
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I can only assume she wanted end her political career?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:28:40 PM EDT
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I’ve had to do it before.  It was an act of mercy.  The knowledge I was ending the suffering helps.  Cat had cancer eating its face away.  Mom and I were broke back then and couldn’t afford a vet visit.  I took Cubby out to the country and ended it with a .22 to the head.  We had her for twenty years.  I’d do it again if needed.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:32:02 PM EDT
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In regards to the recent controversy regarding Gov. Kristi Noem killing a dog, I can't blame liberals for being angry about it. Having to kill an animal(unless it was attacking me) just horrifies me to the very core. How do the rest of you do it and not feel a thing?
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Why do you think those that do it don't feel anything?

Sometimes there are no good options, but you still have to pick one. Having the vet do it doesn't change anything, you're just outsourcing it so you can feel better about yourself, and that isn't something that should be about you at all.

ETA, for the record, our vet handles it, because my wife would end up hating me otherwise. It is the least bad option.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:35:29 PM EDT
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It's part of a responsible person's life. If you can't put an animal down that needs it you're emotionally stunted or coddled.  (Weak) Love pets but don't make another man do your dirty work.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:41:53 PM EDT
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Watched my dad choke my dog to death when I was a kid. We were checking on a new calf and my dog started to chase it. Dad grabbed his collar and the dog snapped at him. Dead dog right on the spot.

I believe dogs are family but they're not people.
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I'm taking your description at face value, but that was pretty fucking stupid of your dad to kill a dog for simply snapping at him. It would be one thing if the dog BIT him or somebody else badly (not nipped), but it's a common behavior with dogs and you need to assert yourself so that they learn their position in the pack. It could have also misinterpreted your dad suddenly grabbing the collar as an attack on it and triggered a fight or flight instinct. If everybody killed their dog after it snapped at them, there would be very few fucking dogs around, including my wonderful little one that I took in after she was caught as a stray.

Anyway, I'm sorry that your dad was ignorant and appears to have taught you that it's no big deal to kill your pet on a whim to show it who's the boss. You did get one thing right though, and that's that dogs are not people and need to be dealt with from that understanding when they behave like animals (e.g. a dog snapping at another member of the pack when trying to assert itself or misinterpreting a received act of violence against it).

Oh and by the way, it's actually not ok.
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Awfu.
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Him turning his head away and ignoring me while I whispered in his ear was the worst.
I felt bad for longer than I would have in doing it myself.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:44:10 PM EDT
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Not at all. Sad when it has to be done.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:45:04 PM EDT
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Not pleasant putting my old dog down with a .357 but it was quick and painless , for him.

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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:47:33 PM EDT
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I grew up on a farm/ranch.   I learned early on not to give the livestock animals pet names before it was time to send them to the  slaughterhouse.




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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:49:37 PM EDT
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I think she was stupid for writing it in a book. The real iron y is the same people appalled at this are all for late term abortion and partial birth abortion.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:53:18 PM EDT
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I own my old family farm, it's rural enough that a vet is an hour away if it's working hours.  After hours, bad weather, etc. can easily mean a couple hours to get to a vet.
I'm not in the camp that says going to the vet for an overpriced poison shot is always better.... Plenty of pets are terrified of the vet clinic.  Why would you want your pet's last memory to be going to a place that he is scared of?  
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What intestinal fortitude . . . you're a credit to the democratic party.  It's too tough to drive an hour . . . or even two hours?  What stamina you possess.  Jesus . . . that's the stupidest/lamest shit I've heard in months.

The poison shot . . . well what the fuck do you think it should be . . . a candy-cane shot?  You're euthanizing the dog . . . of course it's poison.  There's normally two shots . . . a sedative to knock them out and one to stop their heart.   Overpriced?  Are you a poor?  It's maybe $100 tops.  What . . .would spending a Franklin cut into the lube budget too much or something?

Plenty of pets are terrified of the vet clinic.  Why would you want your pet's last memory to be going to a place that he is scared of?
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The utter idiocy of this statement is so great that I can offer no insult worthy enough to surpass it

Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:55:09 PM EDT
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When an animal is suffering, I have had to do the needful many times.  Seeing them in pain is worse than their death.  Life is tough and not fair.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 4:56:56 PM EDT
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Living on a farm isn’t an excuse to be a piece of shit.

I get that animals sometimes need to be killed for various reasons. That’s fine. It’s a part of life.

Those reasons are very important though and distinguish between being a scum bag or not.

Lotta scum bags here on Arf.
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I grew up on a farm/ranch.   I learned early on not to give the livestock animals pet names before it was time to send them to the  slaughterhouse.




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Cool.  You farm a lot of dogs for slaughter?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:04:10 PM EDT
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Theres a difference between "my dogs dying of cancer and sadly i had to put her down" vs "one time i threw a stick and my GSD didn't retrieve it, I shot her. Please clap".

No problem with the former but there seems to be people here that are cool with the latter and I think that's gay.



Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:11:39 PM EDT
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I don’t know about horrified, but it’s never a good day, that’s for sure.

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