I am okay with a 15/16 week for abortions like most of the world.  part of that is because people probably should not be parents and I do not want to take care of their kids.

Religious folks are more interested in being morally superior and making passive aggressive “may sky wizard have mercy on your soul” remarks than anything else. There’s no point in trying to debate anything.

I honestly believe the majority of Americans are decent, normal people. Here’s the issue;

The fringe left and fringe right are both filled with absolute lunacy. Neither side represents the majority overall, but both sides control their party. And that’s why the overall majority is absolutely fucked.

Ahh the Eugenecist version of:
"I support the 2nd Amendment BUT..."

Nice job outing yourself.

Republicans might oppress us less if we filter out social conservatives in the primary process and elected more libertarian principled Republicans who's priority are shrinking government rather than enacting social laws

The Republican Party is controlled by the "fringe right" like myself? Lol, that's laughable. I wish that were the case, then things would actually get done.

But are you really serious? Mitch McConnell, Ronna McDaniel  (until recently), Trump, etc. are cotrolled by far right fringe loonies?  Wow. That's the funniest thing I've read today.

"A lot of you autistically screech over child beaters... but I don't see any of you volunteering to help take care of their kids!"

Same logic.
FWIW, I'm far more compassionate towards the struggles of the working poor than most on this forum. I have far less of an issue than most on this forum when it comes to helping true, honest, struggling families. But even I, think thats a stupid argument in favor of abortion.

Your argument basically comes down to "Give me what I want, or I'll kill some kids". Except its worse than that, because most democrats want free stuff *AND* to kill their kids.
If the GOP came out with a comprehensive plan to help single mothers and working poor families, to help them be better able to take care of their own kids... in exchange for no more abortions... the left would still rage.

In fact, this has nothing to do with bodily autonomy. This has *NOTHING* to do with "expelling unwanted children". They left supports abortion up to the moment of *BIRTH*. At that point, you're birthing a baby one way or another. That baby is coming out. The only thing you're doing with abortions that late, is making sure that baby comes out dead.

If you want to argue about earlier term abortions? I'll still disagree with you, but I can grant that an abortion does "free" a woman from the "burden" of pregnancy. But late term abortions? All you're accomplishing is killing a baby.

I once talked to some evil *CUNT*, who argued she should be allowed to choke a baby to death with her own hands... if its pinky toe was still inside her. That cunt of a former co-worker of mine later ended up going to prison for armed robbery to feed her drug addiction. Oh, and that worthless bitch was a vegan too.

Decent, normal people generally frown upon killing a human life.

Still not one of you have made a strong argument that a fetus before 15 weeks that has no brain capacity to form a conscious thought is the equivalent of born living person.  We unplug people who go braindead all the time.  Considering the "person" gone.  How is it different to unplug a person who hasn't even existed yet?   A seed is not a tree.  It will be if you water it and give it soil and nutrients but if you don't, you didn't "kill a tree"

I'll also address the "so we need to be like democrats to beat democrats what's the point"

Last I checked the democrat solution to everything except abortion and weed is government control and laws.  Not freedom and choice.   It's not left vs right. It's freedom vs tyranny .  If you believe in government control you are already a modern democrat and helping their cause.  No ody is going to take you seriously talking about freedom when you are actively promoting government control of people.  If you want a party of freedom that can reduce government, taxes, regulations, and that won't step on your rights you should always side with freedom rather than government control.  It's especially easy when freedom is popular, like first trimester abortion access.  Yet you want to choose the most unpopular form of government control as your hill to die on.  Don't fucking lecture the rest of us about being like democrats.  You are already there.

Low taxes and less regulation are popular.  Abortion law is not.  You don't have to be like big government democrats to choose freedom.  Unbelievable that that needs to be explained to some of you.  You can't be that dumb.  Most of you must just be deliberately dodging that simple truth to keep up your bs abortion ban argument

Did you reread that after you wrote it?


So you openly admit they oppress us, but still vouch for them because "well, they're better than the Democrats!".  



The social conservatives are the only group trying to keep the party from sprinting to the Left, and your strategy illustrates. Yes, give up our deeply held convictions so we can win more elections as the Democrat-lite party. Brilliant, and by that time the Democrat-lite party will also demand you give up your guns.



Go join the Libertarian Party and stop dragging the Republican Party to the Left.



Fiscal conservatism and social conservatism go hand-in-hand: you cannot have one without the other.  You cannot shrink or get rid of expensive social programs without first confronting the culture that created said programs.

Question for fellow people who believe in God.

Do you think you will go to hell for not stopping people who wish to have abortions?

Nonsense.  You also haven't been paying attention if you think I'm and advocate for Republicans who are barely less shitty than democrats in most aspects and worse on others.  Ready last post for clarification on that.

Moral principles do not depend on a majority vote. Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is wrong. Right is right, even if nobody is right.

Even the LP isn’t settled on their abortion position. Some of the most prominent members consider it falls under NAP.

That’s a good point. Sometimes freedom means someone, somewhere is doing something you don’t like. For all the absolute pro life people, the left views guns in the exact way you view abortion. No exceptions, no reasonable accommodation, no compromise.

Again, a compromised policy is the best you can hope for from a practical sense.

Braindead people have the plug pulled bc there is no expectation to recover. Can you see the difference?

No.

He gave man free will. I will speak out against the evil of fellow man and encourage them to seek Jesus and repent. I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I have repented of my old ways. I now try to live my life in a manner in which honors Him.

That is what I believe the requirement for entry into His kingdom is.

I do not believe bombing an abortion clinic honors Him.

The folks who choose not to will be judged. That is for them to take up with Him at their time of reckoning.

Yeah, its not a political calculation. If your faith says that life begins at conception and a child of God is now in that womb, then all the political calculations mean all of jack shit.  You either say I support evil for political purposes, or I stand by my morals and refuse to support those who support infanticide.

And you can say "well then the left is going to gain power and push even more tyranny on us!!!!"  Okay.  That's how its going to have to be unfortunately unless we turn back from being a debased degenerate culture that murders for simple convenience.  Bummer.

So does man have free will or is god all knowing?

Both literally cannot be true at the same time.

You’re talking to people on a gun board who enthusiastically support a pro-AWB candidate for President.

LOL TDS LOL TDS  REEEEEEE YOU COMMUNIST REEEEEEE

A person that has existed is not expected to come back.  That person didn't exist at all the first 15 weeks of fetal development. Once again.  Refusing to plant water and fertilize a seed is not killing a tree.

Try again.  You'll have to think of something new to convince me and most of the country that a fetus who's brain has never turned on or had a single thought is the equivalent of a person .

Then may God reign down his wrath on this nation and blot us from memory. Amen.

Lol. I guess we all like exercises of futility occasionally.  I hold onto hope that people will realize why they are losing and government is growing though.

If gods real than that's his responsibility.  Not yours.  The fact God didn't do that yet you want to hand elections to democrats who will... Do you think yourself god?

It was not that long ago pro life women outnumbered men.  Brainwashed is right. I think often ami thinking something or am I regurgitating what I am supposed to.

Introspection is important for all

Don’t bother with him. He’s a leftist agitator.

Are you really bringing up the issue of subjective morality when the Republican candidate for POTUS is facing quadruple criminal indictments?

Bizarro world.

100%

It’s coming. Oh trust me it’s coming. God gives man space to repent or dig himself all the way into the grave. If the judgement hasn’t come then it’s because our iniquity is not yet full but have no doubt, if we continue down this road of selling out Godly morals for lower taxes and the second amendment than we are destined to fail.

You think Hitler and the Nazis were pure happenstance? Look at the Weimar Republic, it was in a very similar place as we are now. That was German people’s punishment and the nation was quickly turned to hell.



16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.



15The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken.

16The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.

17The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Yes, why wouldn't I?  Subjective morality is the mechanism that's been used to turn this nation towards degeneracy, is it not?

I don't really understand what your point is.

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