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Posted: 2/2/2016 10:24:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mak_380:
Who's idea was the "We build U-boats..." sign? Johnny Cash, ok, but Nickelback? Really? Aren't they banned by the Geneva Convention as instruments of torture? 
It's looking great! Have you considered doing a project book? Where you list the kids, and the jobs they did, along with pictures of construction and final results? Or is it getting documented by your yearbook staff? Yeah, the Cash and Nickelback threw me, but that's the Pandora mix they often play while working on the boat. 
I made fun of them and was thoroughly rebuked.
Project book would be cool, but probably won't happen. The yearbook staff hasn't shown any interest so far. They concentrate mostly on documenting athletics. The kids will get to sign the submarine when we are all finished. There is talk of t-shirts by the core crew. They were discussing those yesterday. We will see how far that goes. 
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Posted: 2/2/2016 10:39:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mak_380: Who's idea was the "We build U-boats..." sign? Johnny Cash, ok, but Nickelback? Really? Aren't they banned by the Geneva Convention as instruments of torture? It's looking great! Have you considered doing a project book? Where you list the kids, and the jobs they did, along with pictures of construction and final results? Or is it getting documented by your yearbook staff?  |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:30:13 AM EDT
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I think the rust needs a bit more orange.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:43:58 AM EDT
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I dove on one of those off the N.C. coast, the U-352, great dive, cool project
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:44:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DesignatedMarksman:
I think the rust needs a bit more orange. https://industrialrusteliminator.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/1261201_51374961.jpg We've got a dark brown ready to add to the whole thing, but I'll look at adding some orange too. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 12:06:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
We've got a dark brown ready to add to the whole thing, but I'll look at adding some orange too. Please don't add too much rust. All german ships and U-Boats were VERY well maintained, especially at the beginning of the war. Ditto for the tanks, trains, trucks and planes. I cringe everytime I see a picture of a rusted and rotten german tank model. In order to keep them running, they took care for their vehicles every day. There was little to none rust on a german tank. At the end of the war the tanks had only a short lifespan and no time to rot or rust to shit like many modelers built them. Picture of U96 coming back from patrol: 
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Posted: 2/3/2016 6:59:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Please don't add too much rust. All german ships and U-Boats were VERY well maintained, especially at the beginning of the war. Uh oh................ 
You guys are killing me. More rust! Less Rust! Crew's not going to be happy repainting it and removing much of it again tomorrow. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:16:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Uh oh................
You guys are killing me. More rust! Less Rust! Crew's not going to be happy repainting it and removing much of it again tomorrow. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Please don't add too much rust. All german ships and U-Boats were VERY well maintained, especially at the beginning of the war. Uh oh................
You guys are killing me. More rust! Less Rust! Crew's not going to be happy repainting it and removing much of it again tomorrow. You're going to hang it from the ceiling, in a skylight, it will be off the floor what? 10 12 feet? relax, however much rust you put there will be fine. Gee, some of these guys are a little too touchy on the subject of rust. Besides, a Uboot coming back from patrol has probably not been painted in a while, it has probably seen some rough action, it would be expected that it look a little shop worn. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:29:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Update 2/3
PINGS!!!!!! This was a test of the motion sensor in the torpedo. Success! ! For you guys who love the vertical video......halfway through......is just for you. 
Turn your speakers up.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:35:03 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Uh oh................
You guys are killing me. More rust! Less Rust! Crew's not going to be happy repainting it and removing much of it again tomorrow. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Please don't add too much rust. All german ships and U-Boats were VERY well maintained, especially at the beginning of the war. Uh oh................
You guys are killing me. More rust! Less Rust! Crew's not going to be happy repainting it and removing much of it again tomorrow. They should have bought the dealer undercoat at the shipyard. 
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:36:17 PM EDT
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I'd leave what you have on it.................it's been on a long patrol, and hasn't had time for maintenance
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Uh oh................
You guys are killing me. More rust! Less Rust! Crew's not going to be happy repainting it and removing much of it again tomorrow. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Please don't add too much rust. All german ships and U-Boats were VERY well maintained, especially at the beginning of the war. Uh oh................
You guys are killing me. More rust! Less Rust! Crew's not going to be happy repainting it and removing much of it again tomorrow. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:49:03 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Yeah, the Cash and Nickelback threw me, but that's the Pandora mix they often play while working on the boat.
I made fun of them and was thoroughly rebuked.
Project book would be cool, but probably won't happen. The yearbook staff hasn't shown any interest so far. They concentrate mostly on documenting athletics. The kids will get to sign the submarine when we are all finished. There is talk of t-shirts by the core crew. They were discussing those yesterday. We will see how far that goes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By Mak_380:
Who's idea was the "We build U-boats..." sign? Johnny Cash, ok, but Nickelback? Really? Aren't they banned by the Geneva Convention as instruments of torture?
It's looking great! Have you considered doing a project book? Where you list the kids, and the jobs they did, along with pictures of construction and final results? Or is it getting documented by your yearbook staff? Yeah, the Cash and Nickelback threw me, but that's the Pandora mix they often play while working on the boat.
I made fun of them and was thoroughly rebuked.
Project book would be cool, but probably won't happen. The yearbook staff hasn't shown any interest so far. They concentrate mostly on documenting athletics. The kids will get to sign the submarine when we are all finished. There is talk of t-shirts by the core crew. They were discussing those yesterday. We will see how far that goes. The Rust crew needs some Neil Young
"It's better to burn out 'cause rust never sleeps" |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:57:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762: Update 2/3 PINGS!!!!!! This was a test of the motion sensor in the torpedo. Success! ! For you guys who love the vertical video......halfway through......is just for you. Turn your speakers up.  https://youtu.be/M056BPmjA1E |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:35:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ashraam: That's awesome! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ashraam: Originally Posted By guns762: Update 2/3 PINGS!!!!!! This was a test of the motion sensor in the torpedo. Success! ! For you guys who love the vertical video......halfway through......is just for you. Turn your speakers up. https://youtu.be/M056BPmjA1E |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 10:05:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762: Update 2/3 PINGS!!!!!! This was a test of the motion sensor in the torpedo. Success! ! For you guys who love the vertical video......halfway through......is just for you. Turn your speakers up. https://youtu.be/M056BPmjA1ENice. The sub would be hearing those pings not sending them. Subs don't ping. Time to get that pig boat underway. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 10:23:06 PM EDT
[#16]
Great job.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 10:34:41 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pogo55:
Nice. The sub would be hearing those pings not sending them. Subs don't ping. Time to get that pig boat underway. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pogo55:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 2/3 PINGS!!!!!! This was a test of the motion sensor in the torpedo. Success! ! For you guys who love the vertical video......halfway through......is just for you.
Turn your speakers up.
https://youtu.be/M056BPmjA1ENice. The sub would be hearing those pings not sending them. Subs don't ping. Time to get that pig boat underway. We know they aren't sending them  , it's one of 5 tracks that will activate randomly. Only one speaker and that's in the boat, so that's where the sound has to originate.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 9:24:51 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kar98k:
If that stuff is so good, why did the bottom of the can it came in rust through? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kar98k:
Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Please don't add too much rust. All german ships and U-Boats were VERY well maintained, especially at the beginning of the war. Uh oh................
You guys are killing me. More rust! Less Rust! Crew's not going to be happy repainting it and removing much of it again tomorrow. They should have bought the dealer undercoat at the shipyard. http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=26756&filename=jones.jpg
If that stuff is so good, why did the bottom of the can it came in rust through? Cuz he didn't get the dealership sold extended warranty. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 9:48:54 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 2/3 PINGS!!!!!! This was a test of the motion sensor in the torpedo. Success! ! For you guys who love the vertical video......halfway through......is just for you.
Turn your speakers up.
https://youtu.be/M056BPmjA1EThat so bad ass |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 3:48:50 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sgwlower:
That so bad ass Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 2/3 PINGS!!!!!! This was a test of the motion sensor in the torpedo. Success! ! For you guys who love the vertical video......halfway through......is just for you.
Turn your speakers up.
https://youtu.be/M056BPmjA1EThat so bad ass X87
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Posted: 2/4/2016 5:33:25 PM EDT
[#22]
Almost done.
First group of students who worked for small portions signed their names on the boat today.
Darn near finished today. We might move the stern out to check for paint cohesiveness tomorrow. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 5:58:43 PM EDT
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Update 2/4
We are soooooooo close to done. Just a few more hours of paint on the deck, the cables from the stern to the conning tower, and then we should be done. Tomorrow, if time permits we might get it out for paint matching. Today: The bow in it's final coloring, and rust combination. We took some off, added a little here and there; blended others. 
The stern deck getting painted...... Ignore the redneck gang member..... 
You can see the stern rusting and weathering coming together, similar to the bow. Hopefully then end up matching, but with the difference in lighting in the two areas, we are prepared to have to do some matching. 
The screws going back on and getting some touch up around that area.... 
And a big thanks to EBR666 He was very generous and gratious in offering to buy a gift certificate for the young lady who painted the miniature bust, to get her nails done for prom this April.  Truly amazing gesture. She was very touched today when I gave her the envelope. She's never had her nails done professionally. She and several classmates were discussing how great this was going to be for her. It was fun to watch.
Arfcommers are simply amazingly generous people. 
The brochure to the salon she will be going to in April. 
The torpedo is done and ready. Tomorrow I will try to get the signatures of the main crew videoed so I can share that here. They will sign in a separate area of the boat. Here is the first group of signatures... 
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Posted: 2/4/2016 6:08:03 PM EDT
[#24]
Damn Guns, that looks amazing. Well done.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 7:22:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Leisure_Shoot]
[#25]
What about some bubbles around the torp, since they were ejected from the tube with compressed air?
These are available anywhere. You could epoxy or hot glue these to form bubbles. Sorry I just thought of this today. Hobby Lobby, or a craft store would have these. Or amazon Prime would have them there soon.  |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 7:44:18 PM EDT
[#26]
I am impressed and really looking forward to seeing the finished boat!
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Posted: 2/4/2016 7:54:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Awesome job!
Those kids must like hunting with all that nice camo! |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 7:58:40 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
What about some bubbles around the torp, since they were ejected from the tube with compressed air? These are available anywhere. You could epoxy or hot glue these to form bubbles. Sorry I just thought of this today. Hobby Lobby, or a craft store would have these. Or amazon Prime would have them there soon. http://factorydirectcraft.com/pimages/20050702174229-366269/round_clear_glass_marbles.jpg Love this idea. I'll look around. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 7:59:06 PM EDT
[#29]
is that kid attempting to hold up a "bloods" hand sign?
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Posted: 2/4/2016 8:02:44 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
Awesome job! Those kids must like hunting with all that nice camo! Right? I always feel under dressed with them all wearing $200 soft shell jackets. They are all pretty serious about hunting and shooting. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 8:04:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Proto3:
is that kid attempting to hold up a "bloods" hand sign? Probably.
He's a funny kid. They are all jokesters. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 9:06:54 PM EDT
[#32]
That is looking fantastic! Can't wait to see it assembled.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 9:40:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Oh, forgot to add,
Today got pretty interesting right at my lunch. Student passed out on the way to a nearby class in the hallway. I've had this happen 4 other times in my 20 yr career, but always, they've woken up only seconds after passing out. Today, however, it scared me pretty good. Student turned blue green, and I had to get the head adjusted to open the airway. My next thought was.....oh shit, next is checking for a pulse, and breathing.....then cpr.
Right then, the student finally opened eyes and looked at me. They told me they hadn't had anything to eat or drink all day. SRO, v.principal both showed up, and took over. They called for the ambulance, but the mother ended up taking the student to the doctor. Anyway, definitely broke up the normal day. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 10:05:03 PM EDT
[#34]
Great job on the quick action and having a plan. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 10:10:47 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Oh, forgot to add, Today got pretty interesting right at my lunch. Student passed out on the way to a nearby class in the hallway. I've had this happen 4 other times in my 20 yr career, but always, they've woken up only seconds after passing out. Today, however, it scared me pretty good. Student turned blue green, and I had to get the head adjusted to open the airway. My next thought was.....oh shit, next is checking for a pulse, and breathing.....then cpr.
Right then, the student finally opened eyes and looked at me. They told me they hadn't had anything to eat or drink all day. SRO, v.principal both showed up, and took over. They called for the ambulance, but the mother ended up taking the student to the doctor. Anyway, definitely broke up the normal day. I taught in Self Contained Behavioral settings for 22 years, the most interesting thing I experienced was a 4 hour soft lock down while one of our students delivered a baby in the nurse's very small office. The mother was a rather hefty girl, because she was fairly obese she was able to hide her pregnancy. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 10:45:51 PM EDT
[#36]
If you want some more sounds go to you tube and search for u boat sounds. They are mostly for long plays and for helping you sleep as an ambient noise. Here is one: |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 10:49:03 PM EDT
[#37]
It's going to look amazing when it's put together. Can't wait. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 11:20:27 PM EDT
[#38]
I love how you guys get all the little details... like in that last set of pictures, the exhaust blackening the side of the sub. Amazing work.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 1:18:16 AM EDT
[#39]
Outstanding work! Really proud of you and your students for sticking with this and making it a masterpiece.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 2:23:36 AM EDT
[#40]
This is turning out FAR more awesome than I'd thought. The details are amazing!
Should leave the "nickleback" sign inside with the year built, so if/when it is taken down, it'll be a little reminder. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 5:31:23 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: This is turning out FAR more awesome than I'd thought. The details are amazing! Should leave the "nickleback" sign inside with the year built, so if/when it is taken down, it'll be a little reminder. This is a good idea. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 8:58:40 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
This is turning out FAR more awesome than I'd thought. The details are amazing! Should leave the "nickleback" sign inside with the year built, so if/when it is taken down, it'll be a little reminder. Yup, that was my plan too. Leave the sign. Should make for quite a laugh someday. We will put a staple in it to hold it a bit off the floor where the electronics package is going. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:37:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:38:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Cincinnatus]
[#44]
Looks perfect!
Sonar ping tip... Try setting up an additional, not perfectly synched ping player elsewhere in the room (on the other side). The two separate pinger a will sound like reverb and create a cool effect). |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 1:29:09 PM EDT
[#45]
uh... you may need to clean this up a bit, but amazing read....
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Posted: 2/5/2016 2:03:07 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
uh... you may need to clean this up a bit, but amazing read.... http://www.badassoftheweek.com/wahoo.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
uh... you may need to clean this up a bit, but amazing read.... http://www.badassoftheweek.com/wahoo.html More often than not, a surprise torpedo attack would result in a giant phallic-shapped hunk of metal harmlessly clanging off the underside of a depth-charge-laden warship. This is not ideal. 
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Posted: 2/5/2016 2:31:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
What about some bubbles around the torp, since they were ejected from the tube with compressed air? These are available anywhere. You could epoxy or hot glue these to form bubbles. Sorry I just thought of this today. Hobby Lobby, or a craft store would have these. Or amazon Prime would have them there soon. http://factorydirectcraft.com/pimages/20050702174229-366269/round_clear_glass_marbles.jpg Huge Thanks to Leisure_Shoot!!! He's got a bunch of plastic beads on the way here, so we can put this idea in play. The kids were pretty excited about this idea. The torpedo tube launch, and the mines should be getting air bubbles next week.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 3:58:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2016 6:03:27 PM EDT
[#49]
Update 2/5.1
I want you folks to know that the videos and links you post are very helpful. Today I showed the video of the Sun Pens to all of my classes while they worked in the 2D room. Facinating video. There were a bunch of kids gone today for activities so it was a good day for this. 
The sign secured on the inside of the bow section. 
The deck details almost all done. The cables went on today. 
Many of my main crew were gone today, so the signing won't happen till Monday. We will also work on the bubbles if they get here early enough.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 6:21:03 PM EDT
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Teaser.......
Wait a minute........... what's missing?????
The solar panels' shadows are visible on the wall. 
You can see the wires coming down to the solar panels that are not visible. 
Cables to hang it. The nose will be closest to the camera..... 
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