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Link Posted: 5/11/2024 7:33:57 AM EDT
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I remember the "be nifty, drive 50" slogan.  UGH
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:02:32 AM EDT
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Montana came up with a $5 ticket for "An unnecessary waste of a natural resource" after the 55mph speed limit was forced on them, with no points and not put on your driving record. Driving across the open big western states like ND,MT,WY at 55mph was mind numbing.

I remember the day Maine changed the speed limit on the interstate to 65, I was driving from Bangor to Portland to pick up my sister at the airport, they were removing the 55mph signs and putting up the 65 mph signs as I was driving down. It felt like I was flying.

My '80 Corvette has one of those stupid 85 mph speedometers in it:

Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:07:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:09:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jerret_S:
Ohio only in the last 15 years upped the limits on most highways.

I remember interstates were 60 mph 55 for semis, then 65 and 55, the. They let the trucks go the same speed which was way better for traffic then finally 70 mph for all.

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And on any given day & time, at least in the Columbus Metro area, of you are going under 90 you should either stay right or get run the fuck over.




Speedometers on cars had the magic 55 highlighted, raised or otherwise denoted, not that many of those cars still exist.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:11:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By K30MuleLAR15:


Tricky Dick wanted to save the U.S. from using arab oil. We have the largest reserve in the world, oil here in the U.S., for strategic reserve. Why not use everyone else's oil then ours.

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Back then the Climate weirdos were repeating the line that we were going to run out of oil in 10 years. The known reserves were not substantial then. With advancements in technology we know we have 10x as much oil reserves.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:13:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jerret_S:
Ohio only in the last 15 years upped the limits on most highways.

I remember interstates were 60 mph 55 for semis, then 65 and 55, the. They let the trucks go the same speed which was way better for traffic then finally 70 mph for all.

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Never understood this. I would loathe having to drive through Ohio.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:15:40 AM EDT
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Trucks 50
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:16:29 AM EDT
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55 MPH was ridiculous.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:19:02 AM EDT
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We had Escort radar detectors and CB radios, the Man never had a chance.   My 1980 Ford Fiesta 1.6L would max out at 87 mph, but it could do that all day long and still get 29 mpg's.  Leaded gas was under $ 1.00 a gallon, I could fill up and get a cherry Slurpee for under $10.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:23:14 AM EDT
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I was in the Army.  I remember driving on I-95 at 55mph.  It was strictly enforced.  It was torture.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:33:40 AM EDT
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If I'm not mistaken, there were "Welcome to Maryland - still 55" signs after repeal.

I tried to find pics, but I couldn't.


Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:37:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hatari:
It was the china virus shot/mask mandate of the 70’s.
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To people with a frame of reference longer than a decade, this is a forced analogy.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:39:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:39:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
If I'm not mistaken, there were "Welcome to Maryland - still 55" signs after repeal.

I tried to find pics, but I couldn't.


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Pennsylvania had the same type signs at the border and then a short distance up the freeway a shit load of HP running speed traps. (No luck in finding an image of the signs either)
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:39:43 AM EDT
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It was also irritating to have speedometers that did not read above 85 mph in the 80s.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:41:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By j3_:
I didn't notice anyone paying attention to the speed limit then any more than they do now.
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Really?
It was hard not to notice A FUCKING RADAR DETECTOR IN EVERY CAR and the nonstop chatter about speed traps on the CB radio. Entire movies were produced around speed limits and getting around them. See the 1977 documentary
"Smokey and the Bandit."
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:41:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seabee_Mech:
Montana came up with a $5 ticket for "An unnecessary waste of a natural resource" after the 55mph speed limit was forced on them, with no points and not put on your driving record. Driving across the open big western states like ND,MT,WY at 55mph was mind numbing.

I remember the day Maine changed the speed limit on the interstate to 65, I was driving from Bangor to Portland to pick up my sister at the airport, they were removing the 55mph signs and putting up the 65 mph signs as I was driving down. It felt like I was flying.

My '80 Corvette has one of those stupid 85 mph speedometers in it:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119852/1982-chevrolet-corvette-collector-s-edit-3211394.jpg
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Not only the 55 mph speed limit but a few years later speedo's had kilometers also.

When I started driving legally in the mid 70's cars were much heavier and not like the aluminum and plastic that are made today. And the feds always have to legislate to the car makers what the public does not want.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:42:03 AM EDT
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It felt like you could walk that fast. Seriously. It was so freaking slow.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:42:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:43:05 AM EDT
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It was bad, really fucking bad. Took forever to get anywhere.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:43:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnfromHR:
Dumbest law ecer and people accepted it, njobodynfoightnir, sheeple.
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It's 5 o'clock somewhere!
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:45:53 AM EDT
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I remember having to drive 55, it was bullshit. Unfortunately, people drive so badly that 100mph just isn't do able with the morons out there... I mean, they do dumb shit anyway.

I wish we have electronic signs where the speed changes with conditions like they do on parts of the Autobahn. If there is little to no traffic, you should be able to do 100 (or greater.)
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:49:15 AM EDT
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At one time we had different speed limits for trucks and passenger vehicles and different limits for night and day.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:50:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CZ75_9MM:
It was bad, really fucking bad. Took forever to get anywhere.
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It really was.  I would drive 60 mph and hope I didn't get ticketed.  And I got my driver's license right when the 55 speed limit was set.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:56:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein:
At one time we had different speed limits for trucks and passenger vehicles and different limits for night and day.
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Even as a young kid, I wondered if having two different speed limits for different types of vehicles could lead to safety issues.

Didn't buses like Greyhound have a lower limit also?
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:01:53 AM EDT
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I remember the pic of W and Rick Perry helping TXDOT taking down the 1st 55 sign, and putting up the 1st 65 MPH sign, the 1st in the Country.

Jay
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:03:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jerret_S:
Ohio only in the last 15 years upped the limits on most highways.

I remember interstates were 60 mph 55 for semis, then 65 and 55, the. They let the trucks go the same speed which was way better for traffic then finally 70 mph for all.

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Living in Indiana very close to the OH border, I’d guess many of your residents have not gotten the memo. I’m also wondering about your states left lane customs.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:04:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Redman556:



When it was implemented yes. We didn't have near enough oil production capacity when it was enacted as we do now. We were very low on what we could produce and refine. We thought we were basically nearly out of what we could pull from the ground. People forget that a huge percentage of the oil that we pull up today was unknown in the 1970s. Or, like shale oil, we couldn't pull it out, or at least not at an affordable price in the 70s, and we didn't start getting that cheaply until the 1990s, so that was 20 years away. Our only option in the 70s was to buy it, and the majority came from the Middle East.

We didn't have a strategic oil reserve either until 1975, so that wasn't there either.

When that law was passed it made perfect sense. It doesn't now because we have the lens of history to look through.

I remember the odd and even days, where you could only get a few gallons at a time, and it depended on whether or not your tag had an odd or even last number. Then, your car or truck on average, only got about 15mpg, and that was if you had an efficient car or truck. Most people didn't. The little Japanese cars were extremely rare and nobody trusted them yet. You might see one Honda or Nissan, Datsun at the time, for every 250 to 500 American cars. Hell, my grandmother still had her pristine 1957 Chevy, plastic seat covers and floor covers, like a brand new car. It was only 16 years old. Lots of those old cars running around then. The gas crisis IS THE reason that Japanese cars got popular in the US, and why US cars went on a major diet.

At the time, the common scientific consensus was that we were running out of oil in this country, and at some point, around the world.

Our military's primary job was protecting the countries that sold us oil and protecting the shipping lanes for it. Our primary focus in government was to be sure to keep the Soviets from influencing those countries through overthrowing governments and attacks on allied countries from Soviet allies nearby.

It was really close at times. People tend to forget that at that time the Soviets had the US and Canada surrounded by countries they'd had successful communist coups in. Almost all of South America, and half of Central America, and they were working on Mexico. it wasn't until Reagan's second term that we turned that mess around.

We have to look at it through the same lens that people in the early 1970s saw it through, with no knowledge of future events. It was a very stressful and unsure time. If you weren't around and paying attention, this won't make the same sense that it will to people that were there.
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Get out of here with that fact based, historical perspective!  This is GD!  

Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:13:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By vaughn4380:
Ohio Highway Patrol troopers just loved that 55 speed limit. 60 mph = guaranteed a ticket.

I imagine they cried at night when it was repealed.
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My dad was a Texas DPS Highway Patrolman during that time.  He tells me that one of their Sgts, that no one liked, told them he better start seeing some tickets for 60 in a 55.  In true Texas fashion, 70+ mph speeders were give 60 mph tickets.  

55 is painfully slow on open Texas interstates.....
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:25:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:35:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Redman556:
When the law was passed, almost no cars had overdrive in them. By the time 82-83 rolled around, over half the cars had it. Any car going over 55mph was drinking gas, and that's one reason it made sense. Almost all cars were running 1:1 gearing. When overdrive started to become more available in the early 80s, now you were running .7:1. That gave you another 10mph. IOW, where you could get 25mpg at 55, now you could get that 25mpg at 65mph, because you'd turn the same rpms at 65 that you used to at 55. Then multiport fuel injection around 86-87 allowed fuel to atomize better, bumped HP/Torque numbers, improved throttle response, and the mpg numbers jumped about 5mpg. We've had a lot of improvements since then.

Your average MPG for full size cars in the 70s up until 78-79, was about 15mpg. Overdrive changed that to about 20-22mpg. Fuel injection bumped it to 25-27mpg.

That was the game changer that made the 55mph speed limit unnecessary.
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bro, do you even rear axle ratio? what's better, 1:1 with a 2.73 rear end or .7:1 with a 4.10 rear?
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:47:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By K30MuleLAR15:



Not only the 55 mph speed limit but a few years later speedo's had kilometers also.

When I started driving legally in the mid 70's cars were much heavier and not like the aluminum and plastic that are made today. And the feds always have to legislate to the car makers what the public does not want.
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Originally Posted By K30MuleLAR15:
Originally Posted By Seabee_Mech:
Montana came up with a $5 ticket for "An unnecessary waste of a natural resource" after the 55mph speed limit was forced on them, with no points and not put on your driving record. Driving across the open big western states like ND,MT,WY at 55mph was mind numbing.

I remember the day Maine changed the speed limit on the interstate to 65, I was driving from Bangor to Portland to pick up my sister at the airport, they were removing the 55mph signs and putting up the 65 mph signs as I was driving down. It felt like I was flying.

My '80 Corvette has one of those stupid 85 mph speedometers in it:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119852/1982-chevrolet-corvette-collector-s-edit-3211394.jpg



Not only the 55 mph speed limit but a few years later speedo's had kilometers also.

When I started driving legally in the mid 70's cars were much heavier and not like the aluminum and plastic that are made today. And the feds always have to legislate to the car makers what the public does not want.

no they weren't. 1970 dodge challenger is 3461lb, 2024 dodge challenger is 4274lb and pretty much all of that weight increase is shit mandated by NHTSA and the EPA
Also, maybe the feds should mind their own fucking business and let people buy what they want
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:22:41 AM EDT
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Talking to my Aunt about the 55 speed limit (and how much I hated it) she told me about the "Victory Limit" during WWll. 35mph. Of course there was no freeway and with gas ration coupons you didn't have enough gas to go anywhere anyway. The states were free to ignore the 55 mandate but then all federal highway funds would be withheld. Obey or else! Lost my license during the 55. 1970 'Cuda 440 Six Barrel.  
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 11:58:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Homernomer:


Really?
It was hard not to notice A FUCKING RADAR DETECTOR IN EVERY CAR and the nonstop chatter about speed traps on the CB radio. Entire movies were produced around speed limits and getting around them. See the 1977 documentary
"Smokey and the Bandit."
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Really. They drove like they always did because they had detectors and cb's or plenty of money. People coming from the other direction were pretty generous with a flash of the headlight too.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 2:01:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seadra_tha_Guineapig:

bro, do you even rear axle ratio? what's better, 1:1 with a 2.73 rear end or .7:1 with a 4.10 rear?
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People for the most part weren't running 4:10 gears. 90% of cars and trucks sold stuck with the factory gear , which for V8 cars was generally between 2.73 to 3.27, and a bit higher for trucks until the late 90s. Yes, I do axle ratio, I made good money installing them. I used to build race cars, mostly street strip cars. We're talking about the vast majority of cars and trucks that never had an aftermarket part in them. You're focusing on a small part of the market that is insignificant compared to the whole.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 2:05:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By desertmoon:
UTTERLY.  It was pure suckage.
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Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:
It sucked.
UTTERLY.  It was pure suckage.

yes. but it could be fun. everyone had CBs. what you did was get on and get a 'front door' and haul ass till you got to the front door then find another. all the while listening to truckers coming the other way with smokee reports. once did a long stretch and more than 110 mph on a trip. in many places the 55mph limit was ignored by the cops.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 2:27:10 PM EDT
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I remember reading a statement by a sheriff in North Dakota about how he saw no reason to enforce a 55 mph speed limit on highways designed for higher speeds when his deputies could be doing something that actually mattered.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 2:28:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By devildog3062:

WUT!!!!! I thought 55 was to conserve fuel.
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Originally Posted By devildog3062:
Originally Posted By K30MuleLAR15:


Imagine having to drive 55 EVERYWHERE on every interstate highway. Even cars today can drive comfortably at 80 mph and still have a great margin for safety.

When Hagar said that he can't drive 55 I really could not either.


WUT!!!!! I thought 55 was to conserve fuel.

That was the initial justification, then they piled on with the safety angle.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 2:29:08 PM EDT
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Twenty YEARS of that shit, which included my first 12 years of driving.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 2:35:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OldCarGuy:
It was also irritating to have speedometers that did not read above 85 mph in the 80s.
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I own a truck with the 85 mph speedometer, but it’s not one I really want to drive that fast anyway.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 2:46:25 PM EDT
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Many Americans that lived along the I-90 corridor that travelled cross country made their way north of the border to Canada and used the Trans Canada Highway, mostly between Alberta and Ontario.
It didn't take long for new gas stations, truck stops and motels to start popping up along the TCH. They stayed open and prospered for many years after the 55 limit was lifted in the US in '87. Most of them are gone now though with the cost of fuel and the weak Canadian dollar there is very little traffic on the TCH, and most of it now is commercial with a few local area's that use that highway for commuting.

Here is a tip from the CAA, which is the Canuck version of AAA.

"Is gas cheaper in the US or Canada?
When planning a road trip in Canada, you need to have a fuel budget. Pay attention to fluctuating gas prices. Find a balance between comfort and consumption to save on your fuel budget. Gas generally costs about half as much in Canada as in Europe, and 25-50% more than in the USA."

Canada did not have the 55 mph speed limit for the most part. BC tried it and it got tossed after about a year after implementing it and setting the limit to 50 mph.

Nowadays the .gov there is playing fuck-fuck games with the speed limit and are constantly changing it with little notice, and BC is a huge culprit. They are using it as a cash cow with horrendous limits and speeding fines.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 2:53:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kingstrider:


Lol my 63 VW has the original 1300 motor and the fastest it can do is 60 mph going downhill in 4th gear with the windows up.  It is super slow.
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Awesome ride
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 3:06:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GDaawg:
Cars back then folded like a tin cans when wrecked. Maybe the lower speeds were better for survival rates.

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The statistics didn't show a drop in deaths per 100 million miles traveled when it was implemented or a increase when it was dropped.  There was and probably still is a downward trend though do to better road design and vehicle safety.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 3:42:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By vaughn4380:
Ohio Highway Patrol troopers just loved that 55 speed limit. 60 mph = guaranteed a ticket.

I imagine they cried at night when it was repealed.
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Now they just cite you for 5 over whatever is posted. I fucking hate Ohio and their highway brown shirts.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 3:44:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AeroE:

Illinois was another hold out.

55 mph led to everyone driving 5 to 10 over, and that stuck.


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They raised it to 70 in the last few years.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 3:49:16 PM EDT
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I got my driver license and right after they put up the new double nickels everywhere.  I seem to remember that for just a short time it went to 65--then back down to 55.  Mightta been a Wisconsin thing.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 3:50:49 PM EDT
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Texas. For trucks 60 during the day/55 at night for the longest time.

Odessa TX, home to a Family Dollar DC, Werner being the main carrier. And Texas DPS was yanking them over real hard.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 3:52:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GDaawg:
Cars back then folded like a tin cans when wrecked. Maybe the lower speeds were better for survival rates.

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Achtuully, cars back then were pretty solid.  So solid that when they hit something at 70mph, they stayed solid.  

The people inside kind of rattled around a bit, though.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 4:36:21 PM EDT
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It sucked.  Appreciated having this.  Had a hard wire up the A pillar for a clean install on the visor.

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Originally Posted By 549:


Even as a young kid, I wondered if having two different speed limits for different types of vehicles could lead to safety issues.

Didn't buses like Greyhound have a lower limit also?
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This especially sucks when the larger corporations take turns who can deep throat the NHTSA the deepest and limit their trucks to 70 or less. They pass each other with the error of difference, sometimes 0.1 mph and it dicks up traffic for miles.  They should just let them run ungoverned to help traffic congestion and the resulting road rage.
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