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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:12:34 PM EDT
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Trump was donating to gun grabbers up through 2013 I think. Pointing out that trump's a life long anti gun big city douchebag who was best pals with Bloomberg and whose liberal daughter was best friends with Chelsea fucking Clinton isn't saying anyone shouldn't vote for him in the primary, but if he does win plan accordingly He donated to a guy who voted for the SAFE Act in 2014. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:13:51 PM EDT
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Bull Shit. I "attack" Trump because he just advocated for gun control, he just supported raising the minimum wage, he just endorsed 1 of only 10 Republicans who voted for Obama to have Executive Amnesty authority. You can oppose these things without it having anything to do with Cruz This but they are truly obsessed with Cruz and dont even see it |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:13:59 PM EDT
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The kind of behavior displayed by OP and many other Trump supporters is why every time I start thinking I might just vote for the guy I change my mind. You idiots are hurting your guy FAR more than you realize.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:14:24 PM EDT
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And I thought we had finally put that BS to rest. Oh well, back for round 45: He also donated to at least 5 politicians who voted for the SAFE Act, and donated to at least one of them again after he voted in favor of the SAFE Act. You're certainly entitled to your own opinion of the man, but the pretend that "well he spoke at an anti safe act rally so he's obviously pro gun" is even half the story is just lying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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continueing to say trump is a gun grabber, even though it is pointed out that he spoke at ny anti- safe act rallies And I thought we had finally put that BS to rest. Oh well, back for round 45: Quoted:
You are wrong. I actually went to the Pro-2A, anti-SAFE Act rally after Sandy Hook, after the SAFE Act passed. It was the largest rally in NYS history. The NRA was there. Trump was NOWHERE to be found. Trump attended a rally a year or two later, when he was toying with running for NYS Governor. He gave lip service against the SAFE Act, but he funded its supporters and never gave a cent to fight it in court. Trump was there to promote himself. He said he would run for Governor under the condition that the NYS Republican Party unanimously supported him. He ended up not running, despite leading New Yorkers on, and then failed to support the actual Republican candidate against Andrew Cuomo, who Trump also donated to, by the way. He's a big phony. He also donated to at least 5 politicians who voted for the SAFE Act, and donated to at least one of them again after he voted in favor of the SAFE Act. You're certainly entitled to your own opinion of the man, but the pretend that "well he spoke at an anti safe act rally so he's obviously pro gun" is even half the story is just lying. It's ok, it was just business 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:15:54 PM EDT
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Op is mad  His girl Hillary has her cankles against the ropes because of these leaked emails. OP is trying to fan the flames of division on the right so the bitch can take away our guns. He's just one dirty fucking Shillery |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:21:37 PM EDT
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Quoted:further more, by the shear volume of comments and disparagement against trump and trump supporters, casual readers would think this site is now arfcom: the anti gun trump site. fixed. FDT. (yes I'm voting for DT. And yes, F the orange fascist) |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:32:49 PM EDT
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Bull Shit. I "attack" Trump because he just advocated for gun control, he just supported raising the minimum wage, he just endorsed 1 of only 10 Republicans who voted for Obama to have Executive Amnesty authority. You can oppose these things without it having anything to do with Cruz Quote HistoryQuoted:
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but the nevertrump / still cruz supporters get to continue to bad mouth and attack trump and his supporters. This seems to be the new spin to take the focus off of cruz, and continue to let them attack trump and his supporters. well, you can't be calling on trump and the supporters to focus the fight on hrc, and continue to attack trump and his supporters either. because at this point, it is better to spend time talking to independants, and trying to convince them to support and vote for trump, rather than argue with someone who most likely won't change their mind. The focus is off Cruz. He lost the primary. No need to continue to attack him or his supporters. It's petty and futile. And yes, criticism of the current candidate is completely permissible. Pointing out his flaws and having them addressed is perfectly acceptable. That is how you convince people. Glossing them over and raging at anyone who dares point out any inconsistencies or flaws is abrasive, obnoxious, and off putting. You want to appeal to independents? Do so in a reasonable, level-headed manner, rather than patronizing and insulting people. trump is the republican nominee for president. why keep attacking him with things he has said the the past, and keep calling his supporters various names, inferring they suck trump's c*ck, etc.? you can't keep telling the trump supporters it's not about cruz, then keep attacking trump, it's still all about the feelz of the nevertrump/still cruz supporters, instead of them helping to recruit new support for trump, they still seek to destroy it. Bull Shit. I "attack" Trump because he just advocated for gun control, he just supported raising the minimum wage, he just endorsed 1 of only 10 Republicans who voted for Obama to have Executive Amnesty authority. You can oppose these things without it having anything to do with Cruz I am with you, Sydney. WE will vote for the one with honor and integrity--- #wearewithher. Hell, in 4 years we can easily put Cruz in office, and the SCJs she appoints in the meantime will be worth it to have Cruz in there. What a plan! |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:43:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I thought we had finally put that BS to rest. Oh well, back for round 45: He also donated to at least 5 politicians who voted for the SAFE Act, and donated to at least one of them again after he voted in favor of the SAFE Act. You're certainly entitled to your own opinion of the man, but the pretend that "well he spoke at an anti safe act rally so he's obviously pro gun" is even half the story is just lying. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: continueing to say trump is a gun grabber, even though it is pointed out that he spoke at ny anti- safe act rallies And I thought we had finally put that BS to rest. Oh well, back for round 45: Quoted: You are wrong. I actually went to the Pro-2A, anti-SAFE Act rally after Sandy Hook, after the SAFE Act passed. It was the largest rally in NYS history. The NRA was there. Trump was NOWHERE to be found. Trump attended a rally a year or two later, when he was toying with running for NYS Governor. He gave lip service against the SAFE Act, but he funded its supporters and never gave a cent to fight it in court. Trump was there to promote himself. He said he would run for Governor under the condition that the NYS Republican Party unanimously supported him. He ended up not running, despite leading New Yorkers on, and then failed to support the actual Republican candidate against Andrew Cuomo, who Trump also donated to, by the way. He's a big phony. He also donated to at least 5 politicians who voted for the SAFE Act, and donated to at least one of them again after he voted in favor of the SAFE Act. You're certainly entitled to your own opinion of the man, but the pretend that "well he spoke at an anti safe act rally so he's obviously pro gun" is even half the story is just lying. and I will again say nevertrump/still cruz supporters have no qualms about misrepresenting or telling lies about trump  Anti-SAFE Act rally draws Trump, Astorino, PaladinoALBANY – With the state Capitolas a backdrop, a few thousand protesters railed against New York's gun-control laws on Tuesday at a rally that drew an appearance from celebrity real-estate magnate Donald Trump. ... "On top of everything, they give you the SAFE Act," Trump said. "I'm a big second amendment person; I'm a strong believer in it. You have the constitutional right to keep and bear arms and you have that right and they are taking it away, slowly, but surely, they're taking it away. And they're not taking it away from the bad guys." Trump, who said he holds a pistol permit, said the SAFE Act was one of the worst and fastest written bills he's ever seen signed into law. After he delivered his remarks, he quickly spoke to the media, posed for a few photographs and left in a black SUV. ... http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/04/01/safe-act-albany-donald-trump-rob-astorino-andrew-cuomo/7177537/ how about what he said at a republican fund raiser? Real estate mogul Donald Trump headlined an Onondaga County Republican Committee fundraiser Tuesday night at a hotel in DeWitt, a Syracuse suburb. (3) On the NY SAFE Act, the state gun control law passed by the state Legislature in January 2013: "You have the SAFE Act, which is a total catastrophe. It's hard to believe it even got passed. Look, you're sitting at home and a bad guy walks in with a gun. At least you want to have a shot at it, right? You don't want to be defenseless... But this SAFE Act is a disaster. Whoever ultimately is going to be the nominee for the Republicans, they better bring it up very loud and clear because that act is a catastrophe. I call it the unSAFE Act." http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/things-donald-trump-said-about-cuomo-ny-safe-act-syracuse/article_69a19488-a994-11e3-a00c-001a4bcf887a.html but then again, the nevertrump/still cruz supporters don't care about telling lies, after all, for them too, what difference does it make? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:46:03 PM EDT
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and I will again say nevertrump/still cruz supporters have no qualms about misrepresenting or telling lies about trump http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b8fac211643931e96dacc63bd3335bcffbbbdb3c/r=880/local/-/media/Rochester/USATODAY/2014/04/01//1396398344000-safeactrally.jpg Anti-SAFE Act rally draws Trump, Astorino, PaladinoALBANY – With the state Capitol as a backdrop, a few thousand protesters railed against New York's gun-control laws on Tuesday at a rally that drew an appearance from celebrity real-estate magnate Donald Trump.... "On top of everything, they give you the SAFE Act," Trump said. "I'm a big second amendment person; I'm a strong believer in it. You have the constitutional right to keep and bear arms and you have that right and they are taking it away, slowly, but surely, they're taking it away. And they're not taking it away from the bad guys." Trump, who said he holds a pistol permit, said the SAFE Act was one of the worst and fastest written bills he's ever seen signed into law. After he delivered his remarks, he quickly spoke to the media, posed for a few photographs and left in a black SUV. ... http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/04/01/safe-act-albany-donald-trump-rob-astorino-andrew-cuomo/7177537/ how about what he said at a republican fund raiser? Real estate mogul Donald Trump headlined an Onondaga County Republican Committee fundraiser Tuesday night at a hotel in DeWitt, a Syracuse suburb. (3) On the NY SAFE Act, the state gun control law passed by the state Legislature in January 2013: "You have the SAFE Act, which is a total catastrophe. It's hard to believe it even got passed. Look, you're sitting at home and a bad guy walks in with a gun. At least you want to have a shot at it, right? You don't want to be defenseless... But this SAFE Act is a disaster. Whoever ultimately is going to be the nominee for the Republicans, they better bring it up very loud and clear because that act is a catastrophe. I call it the unSAFE Act." http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/things-donald-trump-said-about-cuomo-ny-safe-act-syracuse/article_69a19488-a994-11e3-a00c-001a4bcf887a.html but then again, the nevertrump/still cruz supporters don't care about telling lies, after all, for them too, what difference does it make? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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continueing to say trump is a gun grabber, even though it is pointed out that he spoke at ny anti- safe act rallies And I thought we had finally put that BS to rest. Oh well, back for round 45: Quoted:
You are wrong. I actually went to the Pro-2A, anti-SAFE Act rally after Sandy Hook, after the SAFE Act passed. It was the largest rally in NYS history. The NRA was there. Trump was NOWHERE to be found. Trump attended a rally a year or two later, when he was toying with running for NYS Governor. He gave lip service against the SAFE Act, but he funded its supporters and never gave a cent to fight it in court. Trump was there to promote himself. He said he would run for Governor under the condition that the NYS Republican Party unanimously supported him. He ended up not running, despite leading New Yorkers on, and then failed to support the actual Republican candidate against Andrew Cuomo, who Trump also donated to, by the way. He's a big phony. He also donated to at least 5 politicians who voted for the SAFE Act, and donated to at least one of them again after he voted in favor of the SAFE Act. You're certainly entitled to your own opinion of the man, but the pretend that "well he spoke at an anti safe act rally so he's obviously pro gun" is even half the story is just lying. and I will again say nevertrump/still cruz supporters have no qualms about misrepresenting or telling lies about trump http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b8fac211643931e96dacc63bd3335bcffbbbdb3c/r=880/local/-/media/Rochester/USATODAY/2014/04/01//1396398344000-safeactrally.jpg Anti-SAFE Act rally draws Trump, Astorino, PaladinoALBANY – With the state Capitol as a backdrop, a few thousand protesters railed against New York's gun-control laws on Tuesday at a rally that drew an appearance from celebrity real-estate magnate Donald Trump.... "On top of everything, they give you the SAFE Act," Trump said. "I'm a big second amendment person; I'm a strong believer in it. You have the constitutional right to keep and bear arms and you have that right and they are taking it away, slowly, but surely, they're taking it away. And they're not taking it away from the bad guys." Trump, who said he holds a pistol permit, said the SAFE Act was one of the worst and fastest written bills he's ever seen signed into law. After he delivered his remarks, he quickly spoke to the media, posed for a few photographs and left in a black SUV. ... http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/04/01/safe-act-albany-donald-trump-rob-astorino-andrew-cuomo/7177537/ how about what he said at a republican fund raiser? Real estate mogul Donald Trump headlined an Onondaga County Republican Committee fundraiser Tuesday night at a hotel in DeWitt, a Syracuse suburb. (3) On the NY SAFE Act, the state gun control law passed by the state Legislature in January 2013: "You have the SAFE Act, which is a total catastrophe. It's hard to believe it even got passed. Look, you're sitting at home and a bad guy walks in with a gun. At least you want to have a shot at it, right? You don't want to be defenseless... But this SAFE Act is a disaster. Whoever ultimately is going to be the nominee for the Republicans, they better bring it up very loud and clear because that act is a catastrophe. I call it the unSAFE Act." http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/things-donald-trump-said-about-cuomo-ny-safe-act-syracuse/article_69a19488-a994-11e3-a00c-001a4bcf887a.html but then again, the nevertrump/still cruz supporters don't care about telling lies, after all, for them too, what difference does it make? What did he contribute to actually challenging the SAFE act in court? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:47:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The kind of behavior displayed by OP and many other Trump supporters is why every time I start thinking I might just vote for the guy I change my mind. You idiots are hurting your guy FAR more than you realize. oh give it a break. you were never going to change your mind. you only say you might, like sjw's, to get people to feel bad about their positions or actions, in hopes that they chicken out and try to appease your position. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:54:13 PM EDT
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The kind of behavior displayed by OP and many other Trump supporters is why every time I start thinking I might just vote for the guy I change my mind. You idiots are hurting your guy FAR more than you realize. I'm voting Johnson at this point. Oh and, cm thread. 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:00:14 PM EDT
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oh give it a break. you were never going to change your mind. you only say you might, like sjw's, to get people to feel bad about their positions or actions, in hopes that they chicken out and try to appease your position. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The kind of behavior displayed by OP and many other Trump supporters is why every time I start thinking I might just vote for the guy I change my mind. You idiots are hurting your guy FAR more than you realize. oh give it a break. you were never going to change your mind. you only say you might, like sjw's, to get people to feel bad about their positions or actions, in hopes that they chicken out and try to appease your position. Gee, I could only fill about 10 pages full of quotes from trumpsters who pulled that shit from primaries to now. Fucking please. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:07:33 PM EDT
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and I will again say nevertrump/still cruz supporters have no qualms about misrepresenting or telling lies about trump http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b8fac211643931e96dacc63bd3335bcffbbbdb3c/r=880/local/-/media/Rochester/USATODAY/2014/04/01//1396398344000-safeactrally.jpg Anti-SAFE Act rally draws Trump, Astorino, PaladinoALBANY – With the state Capitol as a backdrop, a few thousand protesters railed against New York's gun-control laws on Tuesday at a rally that drew an appearance from celebrity real-estate magnate Donald Trump.... "On top of everything, they give you the SAFE Act," Trump said. "I'm a big second amendment person; I'm a strong believer in it. You have the constitutional right to keep and bear arms and you have that right and they are taking it away, slowly, but surely, they're taking it away. And they're not taking it away from the bad guys." Trump, who said he holds a pistol permit, said the SAFE Act was one of the worst and fastest written bills he's ever seen signed into law. After he delivered his remarks, he quickly spoke to the media, posed for a few photographs and left in a black SUV. ... http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/04/01/safe-act-albany-donald-trump-rob-astorino-andrew-cuomo/7177537/ how about what he said at a republican fund raiser? Real estate mogul Donald Trump headlined an Onondaga County Republican Committee fundraiser Tuesday night at a hotel in DeWitt, a Syracuse suburb. (3) On the NY SAFE Act, the state gun control law passed by the state Legislature in January 2013: "You have the SAFE Act, which is a total catastrophe. It's hard to believe it even got passed. Look, you're sitting at home and a bad guy walks in with a gun. At least you want to have a shot at it, right? You don't want to be defenseless... But this SAFE Act is a disaster. Whoever ultimately is going to be the nominee for the Republicans, they better bring it up very loud and clear because that act is a catastrophe. I call it the unSAFE Act." http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/things-donald-trump-said-about-cuomo-ny-safe-act-syracuse/article_69a19488-a994-11e3-a00c-001a4bcf887a.html but then again, the nevertrump/still cruz supporters don't care about telling lies, after all, for them too, what difference does it make? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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continueing to say trump is a gun grabber, even though it is pointed out that he spoke at ny anti- safe act rallies And I thought we had finally put that BS to rest. Oh well, back for round 45: Quoted:
You are wrong. I actually went to the Pro-2A, anti-SAFE Act rally after Sandy Hook, after the SAFE Act passed. It was the largest rally in NYS history. The NRA was there. Trump was NOWHERE to be found. Trump attended a rally a year or two later, when he was toying with running for NYS Governor. He gave lip service against the SAFE Act, but he funded its supporters and never gave a cent to fight it in court. Trump was there to promote himself. He said he would run for Governor under the condition that the NYS Republican Party unanimously supported him. He ended up not running, despite leading New Yorkers on, and then failed to support the actual Republican candidate against Andrew Cuomo, who Trump also donated to, by the way. He's a big phony. He also donated to at least 5 politicians who voted for the SAFE Act, and donated to at least one of them again after he voted in favor of the SAFE Act. You're certainly entitled to your own opinion of the man, but the pretend that "well he spoke at an anti safe act rally so he's obviously pro gun" is even half the story is just lying. and I will again say nevertrump/still cruz supporters have no qualms about misrepresenting or telling lies about trump http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b8fac211643931e96dacc63bd3335bcffbbbdb3c/r=880/local/-/media/Rochester/USATODAY/2014/04/01//1396398344000-safeactrally.jpg Anti-SAFE Act rally draws Trump, Astorino, PaladinoALBANY – With the state Capitol as a backdrop, a few thousand protesters railed against New York's gun-control laws on Tuesday at a rally that drew an appearance from celebrity real-estate magnate Donald Trump.... "On top of everything, they give you the SAFE Act," Trump said. "I'm a big second amendment person; I'm a strong believer in it. You have the constitutional right to keep and bear arms and you have that right and they are taking it away, slowly, but surely, they're taking it away. And they're not taking it away from the bad guys." Trump, who said he holds a pistol permit, said the SAFE Act was one of the worst and fastest written bills he's ever seen signed into law. After he delivered his remarks, he quickly spoke to the media, posed for a few photographs and left in a black SUV. ... http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/04/01/safe-act-albany-donald-trump-rob-astorino-andrew-cuomo/7177537/ how about what he said at a republican fund raiser? Real estate mogul Donald Trump headlined an Onondaga County Republican Committee fundraiser Tuesday night at a hotel in DeWitt, a Syracuse suburb. (3) On the NY SAFE Act, the state gun control law passed by the state Legislature in January 2013: "You have the SAFE Act, which is a total catastrophe. It's hard to believe it even got passed. Look, you're sitting at home and a bad guy walks in with a gun. At least you want to have a shot at it, right? You don't want to be defenseless... But this SAFE Act is a disaster. Whoever ultimately is going to be the nominee for the Republicans, they better bring it up very loud and clear because that act is a catastrophe. I call it the unSAFE Act." http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/things-donald-trump-said-about-cuomo-ny-safe-act-syracuse/article_69a19488-a994-11e3-a00c-001a4bcf887a.html but then again, the nevertrump/still cruz supporters don't care about telling lies, after all, for them too, what difference does it make? Nothing you said refutes that he wasn't at the first rally. Or that he donated again to politicians who voted for the SAFE Act. All it shows is that he gave lip service to being anti SAFE Act when he was toying with the idea of politics, just like the quote I posted said. So thank you for reinforcing the point made. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:43:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing you said refutes that he wasn't at the first rally. Or that he donated again to politicians who voted for the SAFE Act. All it shows is that he gave lip service to being anti SAFE Act when he was toying with the idea of politics, just like the quote I posted said. So thank you for reinforcing the point made. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nothing you said refutes that he wasn't at the first rally. Or that he donated again to politicians who voted for the SAFE Act. All it shows is that he gave lip service to being anti SAFE Act when he was toying with the idea of politics, just like the quote I posted said. So thank you for reinforcing the point made. what your showing is that trump will never satisfiy you, with what he has done or what his positions are, so you get to keep attacking him. which is why I say that a lot of the nevertrump/still cruz supporters will never change their minds, and are just giving lip service in saying they might support trump if their feelz weren't getting hurt or offended. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:44:11 PM EDT
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and I will again say nevertrump/still cruz supporters have no qualms about misrepresenting or telling lies about trump http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b8fac211643931e96dacc63bd3335bcffbbbdb3c/r=880/local/-/media/Rochester/USATODAY/2014/04/01//1396398344000-safeactrally.jpg Anti-SAFE Act rally draws Trump, Astorino, PaladinoALBANY – With the state Capitol as a backdrop, a few thousand protesters railed against New York's gun-control laws on Tuesday at a rally that drew an appearance from celebrity real-estate magnate Donald Trump.... "On top of everything, they give you the SAFE Act," Trump said. "I'm a big second amendment person; I'm a strong believer in it. You have the constitutional right to keep and bear arms and you have that right and they are taking it away, slowly, but surely, they're taking it away. And they're not taking it away from the bad guys." Trump, who said he holds a pistol permit, said the SAFE Act was one of the worst and fastest written bills he's ever seen signed into law. After he delivered his remarks, he quickly spoke to the media, posed for a few photographs and left in a black SUV. ... http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/04/01/safe-act-albany-donald-trump-rob-astorino-andrew-cuomo/7177537/ how about what he said at a republican fund raiser? Real estate mogul Donald Trump headlined an Onondaga County Republican Committee fundraiser Tuesday night at a hotel in DeWitt, a Syracuse suburb. (3) On the NY SAFE Act, the state gun control law passed by the state Legislature in January 2013: "You have the SAFE Act, which is a total catastrophe. It's hard to believe it even got passed. Look, you're sitting at home and a bad guy walks in with a gun. At least you want to have a shot at it, right? You don't want to be defenseless... But this SAFE Act is a disaster. Whoever ultimately is going to be the nominee for the Republicans, they better bring it up very loud and clear because that act is a catastrophe. I call it the unSAFE Act." http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/things-donald-trump-said-about-cuomo-ny-safe-act-syracuse/article_69a19488-a994-11e3-a00c-001a4bcf887a.html but then again, the nevertrump/still cruz supporters don't care about telling lies, after all, for them too, what difference does it make? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:46:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:57:59 PM EDT
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Maybe just maybe Cheeto and his supporters should stop attacking conservatives, and start trying to win this election.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:00:14 PM EDT
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Attacking Cruz and his supporters will gain Trump zero votes, and will push people away. Maybe 1 person, maybe 10,000. No way to know for sure.
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Posted: 7/26/2016 12:49:51 AM EDT
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It's funny, Bernie gave his speech, and everyone is calling him a sellout for endorsing Hillary, but trumps endorsers think Cruz should have endorsed trump after what he did.
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Posted: 7/26/2016 1:38:46 AM EDT
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It's funny, Bernie gave his speech, and everyone is calling him a sellout for endorsing Hillary, but trumps endorsers think Cruz should have endorsed trump after what he did. If he would have straight out said that he was supporting him they would have called him a sellout or they would've started with the "cuck" bullshit again. They don't want him to come out and support the orange julius because if he does they won't have anything to bitch about and then he'd have to start attacking the woman that he donated to previously. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 2:17:41 AM EDT
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The focus is off Cruz. He lost the primary. No need to continue to attack him or his supporters. It's petty and futile. And yes, criticism of the current candidate is completely permissible. Pointing out his flaws and having them addressed is perfectly acceptable. That is how you convince people. Glossing them over and raging at anyone who dares point out any inconsistencies or flaws is abrasive, obnoxious, and off putting. You want to appeal to independents? Do so in a reasonable, level-headed manner, rather than patronizing and insulting people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/26/2016 2:31:11 AM EDT
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The NeverT's are still Gargralling Cruz...
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Posted: 7/26/2016 3:14:59 AM EDT
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OP's head is full of fuck.
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Posted: 7/26/2016 8:11:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 8:46:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:17:27 AM EDT
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The focus is off Cruz. He lost the primary. No need to continue to attack him or his supporters. It's petty and futile. And yes, criticism of the current candidate is completely permissible. Pointing out his flaws and having them addressed is perfectly acceptable. That is how you convince people. Glossing them over and raging at anyone who dares point out any inconsistencies or flaws is abrasive, obnoxious, and off putting. You want to appeal to independents? Do so in a reasonable, level-headed manner, rather than patronizing and insulting people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Attacking Cruz and his supporters will gain Trump zero votes, and will push people away. Maybe 1 person, maybe 10,000. No way to know for sure. Attacking Hillary has the possibility of gaining votes by swaying people in the middle or casual onlookers who aren't politically minded. Which is the better plan? Cruz did not clap loud enough, he must be made an example of so that everyone knows this is for the good of the people. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:27:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:29:44 AM EDT
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what your showing is that trump will never satisfiy you, with what he has done or what his positions are, so you get to keep attacking him. which is why I say that a lot of the nevertrump/still cruz supporters will never change their minds, and are just giving lip service in saying they might support trump if their feelz weren't getting hurt or offended. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:31:33 AM EDT
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Attacking Cruz and his supporters will gain Trump zero votes, and will push people away. Maybe 1 person, maybe 10,000. No way to know for sure. Attacking Hillary has the possibility of gaining votes by swaying people in the middle or casual onlookers who aren't politically minded. Which is the better plan? Cruz did not clap loud enough, he must be made an example of so that everyone knows this is for the good of the people. Well actually he attempted to create a contested convention by changing the rules under the guise of conscience clause. And then got booed off the stage for not endorsing the nominee when asked to by the crowd. Then he got booed by the Texas delegation. but you can blow smoke up peoples ass if like. Yep. Fuck all that Constitution talk. We nominee now. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:36:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:37:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:38:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:39:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:40:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:42:07 AM EDT
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I missed the part where he said vote for Cruz. Where was that? The nomination had already been handed out, how was he creating a contested convention? Also, his speech was done, so how was he booed off the stage, as that usually implies the crowd not letting someone speak until they get off the stage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:42:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:44:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:45:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: trump is the republican nominee for president. why keep attacking him with things he has said the the past, and keep calling his supporters various names, inferring they suck trump's c*ck, etc.? you can't keep telling the trump supporters it's not about cruz, then keep attacking trump, it's still all about the feelz of the nevertrump/still cruz supporters, instead of them helping to recruit new support for trump, they still seek to destroy it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: but the nevertrump / still cruz supporters get to continue to bad mouth and attack trump and his supporters. This seems to be the new spin to take the focus off of cruz, and continue to let them attack trump and his supporters. well, you can't be calling on trump and the supporters to focus the fight on hrc, and continue to attack trump and his supporters either. because at this point, it is better to spend time talking to independants, and trying to convince them to support and vote for trump, rather than argue with someone who most likely won't change their mind. The focus is off Cruz. He lost the primary. No need to continue to attack him or his supporters. It's petty and futile. And yes, criticism of the current candidate is completely permissible. Pointing out his flaws and having them addressed is perfectly acceptable. That is how you convince people. Glossing them over and raging at anyone who dares point out any inconsistencies or flaws is abrasive, obnoxious, and off putting. You want to appeal to independents? Do so in a reasonable, level-headed manner, rather than patronizing and insulting people. trump is the republican nominee for president. why keep attacking him with things he has said the the past, and keep calling his supporters various names, inferring they suck trump's c*ck, etc.? you can't keep telling the trump supporters it's not about cruz, then keep attacking trump, it's still all about the feelz of the nevertrump/still cruz supporters, instead of them helping to recruit new support for trump, they still seek to destroy it. Trumptardation is a mental disorder. |
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none of it.. I think the crowd should have left poor ole Ted alone, and respected his wish not to endorse the nominee. To me, "vote your conscience" means vote to keep Hillary out of the WH. I am sorry your conscience doesn't say the same. Well what it means to you is irrelevant. what it meant to the delegation is what mattered at the time, since they had to fight Cruz interests pushing who were pushing a conscience clause every step of the way of the nomination process. I am glad this election cycle has reinforced my instinct to not blindly trust that everyone on a gun website is pro-Constitution and anti-Hillary. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:47:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:48:57 AM EDT
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