That's a .223 short profile rifle with optics targeting system, shooting 30 round magazines, and a vertical foregrip. And a 15 shot high capacity 9mm with double action capabilities if that mode is optionally engaged. Very modern combination that is little different than today's standard loadout. You can show up today with that same combination and be viewed as having a modern contemporary load-out.
That's a .223 short profile rifle with optics targeting system, shooting 30 round magazines, and a vertical foregrip. And a 15 shot high capacity 9mm with double action capabilities if that mode is optionally engaged. Very modern combination that is little different than today's standard loadout. You can show up today with that same combination and be viewed as having a modern contemporary load-out.
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Winner! ( although a Browning Hi Power could work just as well).
Posted: 4/2/2017 6:09:53 PM EDT
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Doesn't the Hi Power go back to 1935, as a doublestack 9mm pistol?
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the S&W Model 59 was around. They came out in 1971. They're actually the VERY FIRST Wondernine
@Beamy 1st "WonderNine"?
You get to learn something new today!
Specifications
Length
20.3 cm
Barrel length
11.5 cm
Cartridge
9×19mm Parabellum
Action
Delayed-blowback
Feed system
15 rounds (standard-capacity magazine), +1 in chamber, 20 rounds (extended magazine)
The MAB PA-15 (Pistolet Automatique 15, also known as the P-15 or P.15 Standard) was designed by the Manufacture d'armes de Bayonne. The model number, 15, refers to the magazine capacity. When introduced, this was the first pistol holding a greater number of rounds than the 13-round Browning Hi-Power. The PA-15 was introduced in 1966....
ETAA- Browning High-Power and an M-14 with all the right switches.
Hold on thar babalooey....
Doesn't the Hi Power go back to 1935, as a doublestack 9mm pistol?
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Awful picky for a Cowpoke.
I took the wondernine reference to mean late manufacture concealable pistols with higher mag counts. IMHO, the BHP is the baseline for the progression of that category because they were very relevant in the 70's.
If we were picky- The Mod. 1914 Artillery Luger had a 32 round snail drum.
Posted: 4/2/2017 6:14:37 PM EDT
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Garand and 1911
Posted: 4/2/2017 6:22:19 PM EDT
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H&K 91 and Colt 1911.
Posted: 4/2/2017 6:36:36 PM EDT
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M1 Carbine, and probably 1911. Maybe a BHP.
Posted: 4/2/2017 7:21:48 PM EDT
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Wondernine refers to double stack, double action. The S&W 59 was the first wondernine. It was neither the first double stack nor the first double action but it was the first to have both features.
That's a .223 short profile rifle with optics targeting system, shooting 30 round magazines, and a vertical foregrip. And a 15 shot high capacity 9mm with double action capabilities if that mode is optionally engaged. Very modern combination that is little different than today's standard loadout. You can show up today with that same combination and be viewed as having a modern contemporary load-out.
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This is what I was thinking. Both proven platforms today, and they were both ahead of their time in 1977.
Posted: 4/2/2017 7:45:37 PM EDT
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M16A1, M1911A1.
Posted: 4/2/2017 7:48:37 PM EDT
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Colt SP-1 carbine & Browning Hi-Power. I could just bring the ones I have now.
Posted: 4/2/2017 7:56:45 PM EDT
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How common was say 5.56/.223, .308, and 9mm back then? Price per box? $6 then is the equivalent to just under $25 today just for reference
Posted: 4/2/2017 8:09:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: How common was say 5.56/.223, .308, and 9mm back then? Price per box? $6 then is the equivalent to just under $25 today just for reference
Holy shit everything in there was pretty damn expensive
I was talking with my grandfather about that one time. Was there essentially plinker centerfire ammo back in the 60s-70s like there is today with 9mm and 5.56. His answer was you didn't really see cheap range ammo until the early-mid 80s.
Look at that .223, its not FMJ its hunting ammo. The 9mm is 124gr FMJ, there is no 115gr
Posted: 4/2/2017 9:47:29 PM EDT
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I'll go with two I had in '77, an SP1 and a S&W M28.
Posted: 4/2/2017 9:54:33 PM EDT
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My vote as well
Posted: 4/2/2017 10:19:27 PM EDT
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M1 Garand
S&W model 39
Posted: 4/2/2017 10:21:38 PM EDT
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4 or 6in?
Can't go wrong with the Highway Patrolman
mine had timing issues in DA but S&W still fixed it, even though they've been out of production since 1986
Posted: 4/2/2017 10:39:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Wondernine refers to double stack, double action. The S&W 59 was the first wondernine. It was neither the first double stack nor the first double action but it was the first to have both features.
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I took the wondernine reference to mean late manufacture concealable pistols with higher mag counts.
Wondernine refers to double stack, double action. The S&W 59 was the first wondernine. It was neither the first double stack nor the first double action but it was the first to have both features.
Colt sp1 and a cz75 I don't give a shit of the Cold War was still going on and I don't think they were getting imported. I wasn't even born yet and it's timentravel so rules be damned.
Posted: 4/2/2017 11:42:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: Colt SP-1 carbine & Browning Hi-Power. I could just bring the ones I have now.