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How would you know if an engine washed up if you A) refuse to look where dozens of large pieces of the MH370 are being found and B) refuse to collect found pieces for accident investigation? Australia and Malaysia are purposely ignoring debris being found. When have you ever heard of evidence being refused to be collected by investigators at a major airline crash? http://i.imgur.com/70wdYGQ.png Why are they spending hundreds of millions looking for the smallest fragments in the ocean when actual pieces of the plane are ignored? http://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news_crops/14445/eight_col_debris.jpg?1470777306 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When an engine washes up in Africa you may have more of a point. How would you know if an engine washed up if you A) refuse to look where dozens of large pieces of the MH370 are being found and B) refuse to collect found pieces for accident investigation? Australia and Malaysia are purposely ignoring debris being found. When have you ever heard of evidence being refused to be collected by investigators at a major airline crash? The potential clues have been left untouched for weeks, with no prospect of them being gathered and examined.
"Credible evidence is turning up, why are they not investigating it?" Grace Subathirai Nathan told the BBC. "From day one we've had the notion they want an end to it, to sweep it under the rug. How can potential evidence be unattended for a month? It's becoming a farce." http://i.imgur.com/70wdYGQ.png Why are they spending hundreds of millions looking for the smallest fragments in the ocean when actual pieces of the plane are ignored? http://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news_crops/14445/eight_col_debris.jpg?1470777306 Your illogical hatred of the Australians continues. Otherwise you would realize that Australia was only responsible for the search and Malaysia is responsible for the investigation. There is only one country that isn't doing anything with the he found parts in Madigascar. If only the Australians had your unique insight that it is "somewhere else in the Indian Ocean". |
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New MH370 analysis suggests no one at controls during crash
"SYDNEY – A fresh analysis of the final moments of doomed Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 suggests no one was controlling the plane when it plunged into the ocean, according to a report released by investigators on Wednesday, as experts hunting for the aircraft gathered in Australia's capital to discuss the fading search effort. A technical report released by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which leads the search, seems to support the theory investigators have long favored: that no one was at the controls of the Boeing 777 when it ran out of fuel and dove at high speed into a remote patch of the Indian Ocean off western Australia in 2014. In recent months, critics have increasingly been pushing the alternate theory that someone was still controlling the plane at the end of its flight. If that was the case, the aircraft could have glided much farther, tripling in size the possible area where it could have crashed and further complicating the already hugely complex effort to find it. But Wednesday's report shows that the latest analysis of satellite data is consistent with the plane being in a "high and increasing rate of descent" in its final moments. The report also said that an analysis of a wing flap that washed ashore in Tanzania indicates the flap was likely not deployed when it broke off the plane. A pilot would typically extend the flaps during a controlled ditching. Peter Foley, the bureau's director of Flight 370 search operations, has previously said that if the flap was not deployed, it would almost certainly rule out the theory that the plane entered the water in a controlled ditch and would effectively validate that searchers are looking in the right place for the wreckage." More at linked article. |
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I love Australia. I just think the Australian 'scientist investigators' compromised the investigation when they did not want to embarrass the Malaysian government with the suicide pilot theory and instead have wasted two years and hundreds of millions searching where most say the plane will never be located. Don't take my word for it. The people actually doing the search admit they are not searing in the correct area of the ocean. Makes you wonder why they refuse to alter the search location. But we know why, its a cover up. http://i.imgur.com/IuBtkFa.png http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/mh370-experts-admit-they-are-searching-the-wrong-area/news-story/771591b2fb2063806431912d3e834430?nk=3e5eefd7e41e8ac36c8280c8b7c2adc0-1476460103 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Your illogical hatred of the Australians continues. Otherwise you would realize that Australia was only responsible for the search and Malaysia is responsible for the investigation. There is only one country that isn't doing anything with the he found parts in Madigascar. If only the Australians had your unique insight that it is "somewhere else in the Indian Ocean". I love Australia. I just think the Australian 'scientist investigators' compromised the investigation when they did not want to embarrass the Malaysian government with the suicide pilot theory and instead have wasted two years and hundreds of millions searching where most say the plane will never be located. Don't take my word for it. The people actually doing the search admit they are not searing in the correct area of the ocean. Makes you wonder why they refuse to alter the search location. But we know why, its a cover up. http://i.imgur.com/IuBtkFa.png Searchers at the Dutch company leading the hunt for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 admit they may have been searching in the wrong place for the last two years. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/mh370-experts-admit-they-are-searching-the-wrong-area/news-story/771591b2fb2063806431912d3e834430?nk=3e5eefd7e41e8ac36c8280c8b7c2adc0-1476460103 Holy misleading headlines. From definitive to "may have been". No shit they may have been. That has always been a distinct possibility. It's a shame they didn't take your advice to look in the rest of the Indian Ocean instead. |
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If it was on autopilot when it ran out of fuel would it glide down or eventually just go out of control an plunge down?
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If it was on autopilot when it ran out of fuel would it glide down or eventually just go out of control an plunge down? View Quote Handling fuel exhaustin is the job of a human being. First thing that's going to happen is asymmetric thrust (due to one engine flaming out before the other), which I don't think the AP could handle, at least not at that level. The AP also can't do things like deploy the RAT and reroute electrical... I can't imagine that Boeing would ever in a million years bother coding such a situation into the AP as the end result would be the same: total loss. |
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Handling fuel exhaustin is the job of a human being. First thing that's going to happen is asymmetric thrust (due to one engine flaming out before the other), which I don't think the AP could handle, at least not at that level. The AP also can't do things like deploy the RAT and reroute electrical... I can't imagine that Boeing would ever in a million years bother coding such a situation into the AP as the end result would be the same: total loss. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If it was on autopilot when it ran out of fuel would it glide down or eventually just go out of control an plunge down? Handling fuel exhaustin is the job of a human being. First thing that's going to happen is asymmetric thrust (due to one engine flaming out before the other), which I don't think the AP could handle, at least not at that level. The AP also can't do things like deploy the RAT and reroute electrical... I can't imagine that Boeing would ever in a million years bother coding such a situation into the AP as the end result would be the same: total loss. Even if the AP kept the aircraft level, it would most likely try to keep the aircraft at the set altitude, inducing a stall, and likely a spin. |
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Quoted: Even if the AP kept the aircraft level, it would most likely try to keep the aircraft at the set altitude, inducing a stall, and likely a spin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If it was on autopilot when it ran out of fuel would it glide down or eventually just go out of control an plunge down? Handling fuel exhaustin is the job of a human being. First thing that's going to happen is asymmetric thrust (due to one engine flaming out before the other), which I don't think the AP could handle, at least not at that level. The AP also can't do things like deploy the RAT and reroute electrical... I can't imagine that Boeing would ever in a million years bother coding such a situation into the AP as the end result would be the same: total loss. Even if the AP kept the aircraft level, it would most likely try to keep the aircraft at the set altitude, inducing a stall, and likely a spin. Generally the AP will attempt to maintain assigned directional control. When it cannot stay within assigned parameters it warns the pilot and disconnects. It shouldn't try to pull the nose up to maintain altitude with airspeed decaying. General autopilot logic is something along the lines of "This plane is screwed, but I am not taking the blame for crashing this bitch." The exception would be an Airbus. It probably pulls the throttles back to idle, up elevator to the stops and rudder locked one way with the ailerons locked the other. All while shouting allah akbar. |
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Balista, you should buy a pair of swimmies and go out there and find that thing yourself!
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Balista, you should buy a pair of swimmies and go out there and find that thing yourself! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Balista, you should buy a pair of swimmies and go out there and find that thing yourself! I do believe it will be found one day. It's just that it appears that the authorities don't want it to be found for whatever reason based on their actions. The group repeatedly complained about the lack of a coordinated search in the western Indian Ocean and along the African coast despite the recovery of several pieces of debris that were either confirmed or declared highly likely to have come from the Boeing 777-200 jet.
“Despite these hugely important finds, there has been no systematic, organized search by any responsible party,” the group said. “This leaves the NOKs [next of kin] no other choice except to take it upon ourselves to do something to find answers and closure.” |
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I do believe it will be found one day. It's just that it appears that the authorities don't want it to be found for whatever reason based on their actions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Balista, you should buy a pair of swimmies and go out there and find that thing yourself! I do believe it will be found one day. It's just that it appears that the authorities don't want it to be found for whatever reason based on their actions. The head kangaroo in Australia needs to bring in someone like Ballard to find that shit. |
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Hmmm, still getting email notifications for this thread. That is weird.
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Quoted: Guess what lies in a dircet line from Malaysia to the west coast of africa and madagascar? Most direct path. Captain decided to jihad and we shot her down. We surpressed information to avoid an international incident View Quote This is the stuff Hillary's emails are made of, and why they are being protected. |
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If it was on autopilot when it ran out of fuel would it glide down or eventually just go out of control an plunge down? View Quote The Autopilot needs electricity and hydraulic pressure to work. When the engines stop spinning from loss of fuel, those things go away. There's probably 'flying a path on one engine', which would keep it level until both engines quit. |
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View Quote Article is as hard to find as the airplane. |
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Pilot hijacked MH370, aviation expert panel agrees
A survey of air crash investigators and commercial pilots canvassing different scenarios that might have brought down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 has found the dominant professional view remains that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah hijacked his own aircraft and flew it to the end.
The majority opinion runs counter to the working theory of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau that MH370 was a “ghost flight” with unresponsive pilots, and went down quickly after fuel exhaustion. View Quote It has been revealed the FBI determined Zaharie had planned a similar flight route on his home computer flight simulator. “In my opinion there is enough circumstantial evidence to say that captain planned, and executed, the destruction of the aircraft,” Mike Keane, a former RAF fighter pilot and retired chief pilot of Britain’s biggest airline, EasyJet, told The Weekend Australian. “If this is the case, it is a crime scene as well as an aircraft accident.” View Quote http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/pilot-hijacked-mh370-aviation-expert-panel-agrees/news-story/ |
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Misdirected MH370 search leaves no way of finding the truth
The first sign of something unusual on the night of March 8, 2014, when flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing disappeared from air-traffic- control radar, was that captain Zaharie Shah signed off with Kuala Lumpur air traffic control — unusual because he was “pilot flying” and it was the “pilot not flying” (co-pilot Fariq Hamid) who should have made that radio call. View Quote Cover Up From The Start The then prime minister Tony Abbott, transport minister Warren Truss and Air Transport Safety Bureau chief Martin Dolan agreed, but a decision was made to go with an unresponsive pilot theory. This baffling decision, which had not the slightest shred of evidence to support it, astounded pilots, who have pointed out that it was obvious the aircraft was under pilot control when it turned about three minutes after Shah said “good night MH370” to Kuala Lumpur air traffic control — and was still under control 90 minutes later when it turned south north of Sumatra. View Quote Why the unnecessary decision to go with the theory of an unresponsive pilot? Was it to discount any rogue pilot theory, at the behest of the Malaysian government?
This would save embarrassment for Malaysia and avoid the massive liability issues that Malaysia Airlines might face if a rogue pilot were believed to have hijacked his own aircraft. View Quote It also means the ATSB is, inadvertently, possibly involved in the cover-up of what could be aviation’s most monstrous crime: the deliberate, planned murder of 238 innocents and an attempt to hide this in the most inaccessible place, 6km deep, on planet Earth. View Quote http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/misdirected-mh370-search-leaves-no-way-of-finding-the-truth/news-story/ |
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Misdirected MH370 search leaves no way of finding the truth The first sign of something unusual on the night of March 8, 2014, when flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing disappeared from air-traffic- control radar, was that captain Zaharie Shah signed off with Kuala Lumpur air traffic control — unusual because he was “pilot flying” and it was the “pilot not flying” (co-pilot Fariq Hamid) who should have made that radio call. On what is the conclusion that the captain had the controls at the time based? |
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Quoted: On what is the conclusion that the captain had the controls at the time based? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Misdirected MH370 search leaves no way of finding the truth The first sign of something unusual on the night of March 8, 2014, when flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing disappeared from air-traffic- control radar, was that captain Zaharie Shah signed off with Kuala Lumpur air traffic control — unusual because he was "pilot flying” and it was the "pilot not flying” (co-pilot Fariq Hamid) who should have made that radio call. On what is the conclusion that the captain had the controls at the time based? Absolutely nothing, like most of this search. |
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More press on the cover up by Australia and Malaysia. Family can't believe after six months the 'authorities' have still not picked up pieces of the plane for analysis.
Gee... why would they refuse to study MH370 plane parts? What could be the reason? MH370 families want investigation to focus more on debris from plane ANTANANARIVO (Reuters) - Family members of those lost aboard a Malaysia Airlines flight that went missing in 2014 criticised Malaysian investigators on Sunday for not doing enough to find debris, which could give more clues about what happened. View Quote Aslam Khan, one of the Malaysian investigators who arrived in Antananarivo on Sunday, said it was incorrect to suggest the inquiry was winding down.
He said criticism of the investigation team for failing to collect the debris was "fair comment." A total of 33 pieces suspected to be from the plane have been found so far, including parts of the wings and tail, in La Reunion, Mozambique, South Africa, Mauritius and Tanzania. View Quote “The fact that in six months they haven’t collected this debris reflects their lack of seriousness about the search,” said Nathan. View Quote Ghislain Wattrelos, a Frenchman who lost his wife and two teenage children in the crash, said the families wanted more focus on debris.
"We are spending quite a big amount of money trying to find a plane (in the sea) where it is not," he said. "I don’t know why they are spending so much money doing this when it’s easier to try and find the debris.” View Quote http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/reuters/mh370-families-want-investigation-to-focus-more-on-debris-from-plane/42727912 |
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Families attacking the 'authorities' for forcing the victims relatives to look for the plane while they spend hundreds of millions on looking where the plane isn't.
MH370 crash: 'Farcical' that families must comb beaches for plane wreckage The wife of a New Zealand man who was on board the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight 370 says it's farcical the families of passengers have to search the eastern shorelines of Africa for wreckage because official investigators won't. View Quote Families despair that further possible debris found in Madagascar by self-funded amateur investigator and American lawyer Blaine Gibson - including personal items such as bags - was not collected by Malaysian officials for more than half a year. View Quote Danica Weeks, who last saw her husband Paul the day before the plane vanished when he flew out from Perth to work on a Mongolian mine site, said it was outrageous relatives had been forced to take matters into their own hands. View Quote Cover Up The Malaysians, as I've said all along, want to wipe this under the carpet and so it's getting to the point where it's left up to the family members," Ms Weeks told NZ Newswire. View Quote http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11760240 |
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Russian Dragons View Quote The Russians couldn't let the Chinese get too far ahead of them with dragon development. Fortunately for the Russians, it was discovered that getting their dragons to breath fire was as simple as giving them plenty of vodka. Unfortunately, the vodka produces other effects, when administered in quantities slightly larger than the amount needed to produce fire breath. Some of these effects are relatively harmless, others can result in a shortage of dragon trainers, facility maintenance staff, and facility security staff. |
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Malaysia Airlines MH370: Chinese ship quits seabed search of missing plane
Sydney: The seabed search for the missing Malaysian airliner has been left to a single ship, with a Chinese vessel heading home to Shanghai, officials said on Wednesday.
A Dutch survey ship Fugro Equator will finish the search of the southern Indian Ocean for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 alone after resupplying at the southwest Australian port of Fremantle, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which coordinates the search, said in a statement. The Chinese ship Dong Hai Jiu 101 had finished searching the 120,000-square-kilometer (46,000-square-mile) expanse last weekend and was headed back to Fremantle to drop off equipment before returning to its home port of Shanghai, the statement said. View Quote http://www.deccanchronicle.com/world/australia-and-new-zealand/071216/mh-370-search-chinese-ship-pulls-out-lone-dutch-ship-left-to-scour-seabed.html |
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Ping Arc Theory Proven To Be False - location where plane was 'scientifically' stated to be was proven by one of the most intensive/expensive searches in human history false.
Dutch ship to make final search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight The Dutch owned ship 'Fugro Equator', departed Australia on Monday for what is likely to be the last search for missing flight MH370, according to BBC News . View Quote "It has been an heroic undertaking but we have to prepare ourselves for the prospect that we may not find MH370 in the coming weeks, although we remain hopeful," BBC quoted Australian Transport Minister Darren Chester as saying. View Quote http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/asia-pacific/132543-161213-last-chance-dutch-ship-takes-final-search-for-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight |
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http://031c074.netsolhost.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Richard-Cole-search-map.jpg 'Search crews in the remote southern Indian Ocean have completed a task so vast and technically ambitious that it once seemed impossible: to scan a three-mile-deep, 120,000 sq km swathe of seabed using a side-scan sonar “towfish” in hopes of finding the wreckage of missing Malayia Airlines 777 MH370. After considerable delay due to mechanical problems and bad weather, the final square miles were scanned on October 11 by the research vessel Fugro Equator. The $180 million project turned up no trace of the missing plane, though searchers did find several long-sunken sailing ships.' View Quote thanks for keeping this updated |
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Well, well, well. The fucking Aussie investigators finally admit what everyone knew long ago.
Ping Arcs LOL MH370: Plane 'not likely to be in search area', say investigators The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), tasked to coordinate the search, convened a review with a multi-national team of aviation and science experts in November.
Its latest report, based on that meeting, said "there is a high degree of confidence that the previously identified underwater area searched to date does not contain the missing aircraft". View Quote http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-38375357 |
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Well, well, well. The fucking Aussie investigators finally admit what everyone knew long ago. Ping Arcs LOL MH370: Plane 'not likely to be in search area', say investigators http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-38375357 View Quote Have they flown other aircraft with the same ACARS units talking to the same Immarsat satellites into the same general area and done some sort of feasibility study? If do, do they have the data from this? |
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Heard on the news this morning they decided the aircraft was not in the search area (no shit) and they wanted to shift north.
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Even if they find it, I don't think they will learn anything. Guarantee that dude pilled the breakers for the FDR and CVR.
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Well, well, well. The fucking Aussie investigators finally admit what everyone knew long ago. Ping Arcs LOL MH370: Plane 'not likely to be in search area', say investigators http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-38375357 View Quote If only they had listened to your suggestion to search "somewhere else". |
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Well, well, well. The fucking Aussie investigators finally admit what everyone knew long ago. Ping Arcs LOL MH370: Plane 'not likely to be in search area', say investigators http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-38375357 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Well, well, well. The fucking Aussie investigators finally admit what everyone knew long ago. Ping Arcs LOL MH370: Plane 'not likely to be in search area', say investigators The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), tasked to coordinate the search, convened a review with a multi-national team of aviation and science experts in November.
Its latest report, based on that meeting, said "there is a high degree of confidence that the previously identified underwater area searched to date does not contain the missing aircraft". http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-38375357 They searched the most probable area that the plane should be. Do you know what "probable" means? Can you compare and contrast it to the definition of the word "definite"? |
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They searched the most probable area that the plane should be. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes No they didn't If you reviewed each detailed posting to this thread, you will see the Aussies made a decision to search the area they selected because they were unwilling to consider the "Rogue Pilot" scenario to avoid embarrassment to Muslim Malaysia. This search was anything but 'scientific' and more political correctness. Critics such as Captain Bailey have claimed the Australian government and the ATSB have known all along, including from the secret FBI report, that Zaharie hijacked the aircraft, but went with the “ghost plane” scenario to avoid embarrassing Malaysia, which would not want a conclusion its pilot deliberately took down a jet. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/canberra-refuses-call-to-reveal-secrets-on-missing-malaysian-plane/news-story/cbb0f05af2243666932bd710539cc1f3 |
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http://031c074.netsolhost.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Richard-Cole-search-map.jpg 'Search crews in the remote southern Indian Ocean have completed a task so vast and technically ambitious that it once seemed impossible: to scan a three-mile-deep, 120,000 sq km swathe of seabed using a side-scan sonar “towfish” in hopes of finding the wreckage of missing Malayia Airlines 777 MH370. After considerable delay due to mechanical problems and bad weather, the final square miles were scanned on October 11 by the research vessel Fugro Equator. The $180 million project turned up no trace of the missing plane, though searchers did find several long-sunken sailing ships.' View Quote I wonder whether they were really looking for the Malaysia Airlines flight or something else and used that as an excuse. (Of course, it could have been dragons. ) |
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No they didn't If you reviewed each detailed posting to this thread, you will see the Aussies made a decision to search the area they selected because they were unwilling to consider the "Rogue Pilot" scenario to avoid embarrassment to Muslim Malaysia. This search was anything but 'scientific' and more political correctness. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/canberra-refuses-call-to-reveal-secrets-on-missing-malaysian-plane/news-story/cbb0f05af2243666932bd710539cc1f3 View Quote So which other 120,000 sq km area should they have looked instead of where the best (although still bad since it wasn't what it was intended for) data indicated it may be? |
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