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Posted: 3/1/2009 5:46:13 PM EDT
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California used to be a great state. Good job opportunities, good standard of living, good hunting-not to mention the climate and beaches. Things started to turn back in the late '80s or early '90s-I don't know exactly when. The demographic landscape changed drastically after I graduated from HS, and maybe that has something to do with tipping the balance of power over to the liberals who've ruined the state. Gun control aside (because there are other things to consider), there's a lot of reasons not to live there, and the only thing I miss about CA is Ft. Hunter Legget. Great training and outstanding hunting. It's not enough to make me want to live in a state that wants to tax me to oblivion to support it's own Great Society fiasco. I first visited there in the early 1990s and while I was just a punk teenager I really liked the state and said hey, I'd like to move here. I had an opportunity in 2001 to move there and work for a good company but after visiting the location with my wife we both decided that the higher taxes, insanely higher cost of living, traffic, and illegal immigration issue was not something we were interested in. We've gone back there together and I've had to work in CA (Oakland, San Jose, Watts  , Hayward, Fresno, Madera (sp), etc.) and found good people, conservative values, and lots to see and do. Problem is that people vote with the $$$$$ and not necessarily by values and with the population centers being mostly leftist the state is going to be the way it is for the foreseeable future.
Oh, and I think CA started going downhill in the 1970s based off when a lot of the more restrictive laws started coming onto the books, not from experience. Could be, maybe I was just tone-deaf to it. Remember, Prop 13 passed and property taxes went down to the benefit of working home owners-teachers never forgave voters for it though... Prop 15 (to ban the further sale of new handguns) failed to pass by a 2/3 majority, and the liberals howled in protest. I believe that was in 1982. I remember reading the San Jose Mercury News editorial page and being very satisfied that we won that one. I love seeing liberals wet their pants. There are a lot of conservatives in the state. Even as recently as a few years back, Prop 187 passed, which would have helped deter illegal immigration, but years of liberals stacking the courts in their favor defeated the will of the people. Gov. Gray Davis was recalled because people were fed up with his "tax and spend" liberal ways. Arnold isn't that much of an improvement. There is hope for CA, but I don't know what the solution is. I have no use for CA in it's current state, so I refuse to live there. CA has devolved into a liberal political machine. Why does the California congress always get a pass? Running a state isn't a 1 man show. (no I'm not a fan of Arnold and his microstamping, lead free bullets republicanism either) |
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Posted: 3/1/2009 5:50:28 PM EDT
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The state is full of liberal shit heads who believe in entitlement programs. Also full of a lot of normal people, who are more pissed off, then the average arfcommer.  The 4xD comment reminds me a lot of the comments of people who live in upstate New York and are buriedd by the excesses of New York City. 5sub and Seattle VS East Washington state, Portland + Eugene VS the rest of Oregon, Denver VS the rest of Colorado, Chicago VS southern Illinois, Detroit VS suburban Michigan and Philly VS western Pennsylvannia. |
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Posted: 3/4/2009 9:22:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Enjoy your weather. I think I might go out and buy a new AR today complete with adjustable stock, bayonet lug, pistol grip and all the evil features I want. Or maybe a .50BMG? Well thanks! I was a ripe old 40 years old in 2000 when California banned the purchase of NEW rifles but by then I already had 9 AR's with assorted adjustable stocks, bayonet lugs, pistol grips, and other evil features ... and more than a hundred (federal pre-ban) magazines. Years later when they passed the ban on sales of NEW .50 BMG's I make the assessment and decided that I didn't want one ... not a concern then, nor now. Nobody has banned AR rifles here - only the sales of certain brands of new ones - other brands are still legal and tens of thousands of them are sold here each year. That was nine years ago and people haven't figured that out here on the General Discussion - this ain't New York or New Jersey. What people have figured out are many clever ways to make evil baby killing weapons including pistol grips and detachable magazines.  There is more to life than detachable magazines, pistol grips, bayonet lugs, or evil features ... really.  So to sum up: You got yours, so screw everyone else. If someone else in your state wants to exercise their Second Amendment right in order to own a .50, well you really don't care. Nice. You're right. There is more to life than pistol grips. There is light regulation of business. You have that in California, right? There are also low taxes. I pay 3.07% state income tax. In CA I would be paying 9.3%. Last year I paid less than $1,300 in property taxes on my 2,500 square foot home on 1.5 acres of wooded land. I'm sure you pay less on a much larger home on a much larger piece of land. The California sales tax rate is 7.25%, and will be 8.25% in another month. Ours is 6% and has more exemptions. This afternoon I decided to shoot some guns. Like most times the mood strikes me, I just stepped to the edge of my deck and started firing. You do that at your palatial estate in the Golden State, right? But I suppose all us toothless hillbillies just don't know what we are missing out on. And just to let you know, I've spent plenty of time in California. I telecommuted to a job in San Jose for almost eight years. Had to fly out there on a regular basis. They wanted to move me out there in 2002, but when they ran the numbers, to provide me a comparable standard of living they would have had to give me an obscene raise. Plus the traffic is a disaster. There are some gorgeous things in California. Too bad the state is populated with the second largest concentration of chest-thumping narcissists in the US. Hey man, are you just fucking with us, or are you dense? First you gloat about buying guns that you know Paul can't buy, then you give him a ration of shit about his attitude towards others Second Amendment rights. Hypocrite. Then you go on bragging about how low your taxes are, how big your house is, how many acres of land you own, how you can shoot off your back deck, you can do this and that, blah blah blah... sounding like the chest-thumping narcissist you loathe. You're fucking with us, right? Surely, you're not really this smug. |
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