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Posted: 1/8/2017 1:14:16 PM EDT
Since my 1985 BCA Classic Mount bike was struck by a car while I was riding to work. I have been thinking of weekend bike to ride around.
Some people suggested a Cruiser type bike. Some said a trike style. Some suggested that I get a motorized bike. I looked at updating my BCA with an electric assist wheel. While the option is reasonable in price the batteries are not. Batteries run $400 to 700 to power the motor. Then I found this by accident on Amazon. 
https://www.amazon.com/Motorized-Bicycle-Aluminum-Frame-inbuilt/dp/B01GIL6HOC/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1482544210&sr=8-8&keywords=gas&tag=vglnk-c102-20 bike frame&tag=vglnk-c102-20 
Found it cheaper on E-bay plus while looking for a front fork I found examples of completed ones on the same page. 
You really need to look at the other one here: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campId=5337559805&toolId=10001&customId=ixox5rxb2x00zk8a00004&mpre=http://www.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F282107633890%3F_trksid%3Dp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Cant wait to get my Income Tax Return. 
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Posted: 1/8/2017 1:54:38 PM EDT
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I've built a few China Girls in my time. Right now I'm working on a trike powered by a Huasheng 50cc 4-stroke.
Check out http://motorbicycling.com/ - it's the ARFcom of motorized bicycles. Another good one is http://motoredbikes.com/. |
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Posted: 1/8/2017 2:19:00 PM EDT
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A used moped scooter will be cheaper and better.
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Posted: 1/8/2017 2:31:38 PM EDT
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A used moped scooter will be cheaper and better. Use mopeds are $1500 here, and those bikes are half that. |
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Posted: 1/8/2017 3:00:22 PM EDT
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Some friends and I built two, based off of Electra bikes. The one with the built in tank like you depict at the top was a bitch. The steer tube and seat tube were open ended. It took like 5 tries with JB weld to get them sealed. In the end it was worth it. They were both really fun.
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Posted: 1/8/2017 3:42:22 PM EDT
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I want an electric mountain bike, because I like the ride, but hate the exercise!
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Posted: 1/8/2017 4:22:24 PM EDT
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I've built a few China Girls in my time. Right now I'm working on a trike powered by a Huasheng 50cc 4-stroke. Check out http://motorbicycling.com/ - it's the ARFcom of motorized bicycles. Another good one is http://motoredbikes.com/. Thanks. |
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Posted: 1/8/2017 4:24:25 PM EDT
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I hate you. I didn't realize these existed. It turned me away from converting a bike. |
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Posted: 1/8/2017 4:32:06 PM EDT
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Some friends and I built two, based off of Electra bikes. The one with the built in tank like you depict at the top was a bitch. The steer tube and seat tube were open ended. It took like 5 tries with JB weld to get them sealed. In the end it was worth it. They were both really fun. Also not a good ideas to buy already painted. The paint is cheap and crappy. Buy the raw frame and paint it yourself. The guy with the pictures on Ebay sells all the frame parts. Including the rubber mount adapter to get rid of the motor vibrations. |
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Posted: 1/8/2017 4:33:00 PM EDT
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I am finding interesting links and info at those two sites. Thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've built a few China Girls in my time. Right now I'm working on a trike powered by a Huasheng 50cc 4-stroke. Check out http://motorbicycling.com/ - it's the ARFcom of motorized bicycles. Another good one is http://motoredbikes.com/. Thanks. Be sure to check out the vendors. Besides a fairly extensive list of Chinese kit importers, you'll find a huge cottage industry of suppliers like That's Dax, Sick Bike Parts, Monark Forks, Sportsman Flyer, Spooky Tooth Cycles, etc., that manufacture custom brackets and hardware, solid rear wheel sprocket mounts, and all sorts of hop-up parts. Sign up and start reading and asking questions. Also, be sure to check out the specific MB laws for your state because they tend to vary wildly from state to state. |
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Posted: 1/8/2017 4:54:40 PM EDT
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I want an electric mountain bike, because I like the ride, but hate the exercise! You can buy them in front or rear kit. 
You can make the batteries yourself. Go to you tube site to learn how to safely make them like a Tesla battery so the individual 18650 cells dont blow up the pack. Each cell has its own fuse. Other you tubers use solid wires. If the cell shorts out you could have a domino effect leading to a fire. He is making a TESLA wall for his Volkswagen van https://www.youtube.com/user/jehugarcia/about For those who would like a TESLA Wall for their solar system. This guy followed Jehu's instructions and built a huge power wall for his solar system. He set them up in modules so he can find bad cells and replace them. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzqf9_I-p-vgOoJrmewEMsg |
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Posted: 1/8/2017 4:59:04 PM EDT
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Be sure to check out the vendors. Besides a fairly extensive list of Chinese kit importers, you'll find a huge cottage industry of suppliers like That's Dax, Sick Bike Parts, Monark Forks, Sportsman Flyer, Spooky Tooth Cycles, etc., that manufacture custom brackets and hardware, solid rear wheel sprocket mounts, and all sorts of hop-up parts. Sign up and start reading and asking questions. Also, be sure to check out the specific MB laws for your state because they tend to vary wildly from state to state. Also most dealers are selling them with the 2.4 liter tanks. I'm looking at the 3.7 liter tank on Ebay. Watch out for the ones with the dummy gas tanks. Some of them are the same price as the real ones. 
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Posted: 1/8/2017 5:22:42 PM EDT
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This is my late dog. She has been gone for almost 8 years now.
Found this on Ebay. It would look great on both sides of the tank 
NH-AR-Shooter knows someone that could actually paint her images on the sides of the tank I dont know what he would charge. ETA I was told today that the guy works at the mall doing pictures and paintings on different materials. Also just remembered that a customer out of Mass. from years back could laser etch it on. He is at most home and business shows.Where is that business card? |
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Posted: 1/8/2017 9:42:14 PM EDT
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Here is a video on the 18650 battery by Jehu
 TESLA style battery cell Fuses 18650 DIY EV - eSamba |
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Posted: 1/9/2017 8:07:43 PM EDT
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Just ordered the frame from a dealer out of Canad.
It was $129 US for the 3.7 Liter frame in Silver on Ebay. Less my Ebucks it was $114/ It will be Jan 18- the 24th. With the last packages I got from Canada I figure by Feb 1st They also might have the Forks in black for $50 instead of $70. I'll repaint them if I have too. to match the frame. |
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Posted: 1/10/2017 9:04:54 PM EDT
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I decided to look more at the motorized models with the dummy tank.
1) They are only $70 with free shipping. 2) These are in fact factory defects. 3) they could have up to 7 holes that were not sealed before installing the tank on the frames. I had seen an aftermarket insert for these tanks to seal up a leaky tank. I was scratching my head when I saw them but it didnt click until I found these refereed to the bikes having dummy tanks. See If I can find them again. |
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Posted: 1/10/2017 9:10:07 PM EDT
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I built a 2 stroke china doll. It was a blast, until the springer forks I put on it broke and it almost killed me. But up until that moment I loved it. i never built an electric though.
PS Always wear a helmet. |
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Posted: 1/10/2017 9:14:41 PM EDT
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What's old is new again...I had a Whizzer when I was 11, it made the paper route a breeze.
Whizzer Motorbikes |
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Posted: 1/10/2017 9:20:40 PM EDT
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I built a 2 stroke china doll. It was a blast, until the springer forks I put on it broke and it almost killed me. But up until that moment I loved it. i never built an electric though. PS Always wear a helmet. A dummy version but in electric. Use a rear wheel drive version motor 
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Posted: 1/10/2017 9:26:55 PM EDT
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I built a 2 stroke china doll. It was a blast, until the springer forks I put on it broke and it almost killed me. But up until that moment I loved it. i never built an electric though. PS Always wear a helmet. My bicycle helmet wont be good enough. A helmet with a face shield woul be a must. My snowmobile helmet is a XXX in size. OK. I have a fat head. 
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Posted: 1/10/2017 9:39:30 PM EDT
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What's old is new again...I had a Whizzer when I was 11, it made the paper route a breeze.
Whizzer Motorbikes Very interesting parts.
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Posted: 1/10/2017 9:47:58 PM EDT
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Been looking at this Krator motorcycle handle bar on Amazon. I saw that a bike on Ebay had a double head mount attached to his MTB handle bare to place it more forward on the tree fork. I plan o do the same on my build since I get annoyed with my handlebars being to close to me. Sorry. Not crazy about ape bars.
I found a universal fairing that fit it. 
Product Dimensions 14.5 x 5.1 x 5.1 inches I going to see if my Canondale Tesoro rack will fit on it. If so. I will get one or two for it. May have to buy a fat bike rack for it. Need the frame 
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Posted: 1/10/2017 10:20:01 PM EDT
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Just told without a picture of the fairing on a bike. Stick with with my original ideas and a screw the fairing.
Chrome version 
Which option would you choose? Is the handlebar a little too weird? |
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Posted: 1/10/2017 11:20:07 PM EDT
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I built a 2 stroke china doll. It was a blast, until the springer forks I put on it broke and it almost killed me. But up until that moment I loved it. i never built an electric though. PS Always wear a helmet. 
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Posted: 1/10/2017 11:43:22 PM EDT
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Very cool. Keep the thread updated.
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Posted: 1/10/2017 11:46:04 PM EDT
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I knew a guy who rode one to work 10 miles. Crazy fuck.
Powered by a little 2 stroke chinese gasser that required reassembly right out of the box. Cheap as hell tho. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 12:00:12 AM EDT
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I knew a guy who rode one to work 10 miles. Crazy fuck.
Powered by a little 2 stroke chinese gasser that required reassembly right out of the box. Cheap as hell tho. It also means that the motor was never tested. 
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Posted: 1/11/2017 12:02:04 AM EDT
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Quite a few of them are sold with the head set aside in the kit. I figure it is to make it easier to mount the motor. It also means that the motor was never tested. Makes it easier to pour out all the remaining casting sand in the block.
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Posted: 1/11/2017 12:02:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2017 12:45:37 AM EDT
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Just buy a old Honda spree or tomos moped
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Posted: 1/11/2017 1:15:30 AM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/117988/IMG-0956-123525.JPGNot quite the same but I'm restoring one of these... It's a Simplex Servi-Cycle
It has old style bicycle cruiser handlebars. That is the style of exhaust pipes that I will use. That will send the noise to the rear. I found some dovetail fenders on Ebay. They are 3 1/4 wide. Just wider than the 26x3 inch fat tires on Amazon, but they comes with MTB tires. Rims of that size are 2 to 3 times more than the cost of the wheel set. I want to put some Duro Beach Bums with white walls on it for the summer. I am buying the forks on Thursday. I will squeeze out cash next week for the wheels. My purchases have been advance in case some items double if there is a Trump tax levied on ChiCom goods. Holding out on the handle bars until I see both the forks and the frame together. I have an old seat to sit on for now. I really like the looks of the motor cycle handle bar since it looks better than using a MTB bar. I can stick some aluminum rods in the holes to support gauges on center. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 1:30:29 AM EDT
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Just buy a old Honda spree or tomos moped
Just checked Craigslist. Lots of Honda Ruckus for sale. I like the seat on this 1979 Honda Express 2 ($800) in Mass. 
Found it on Ebay for $30 free shipping. I would have to weld up a bracket for it. Also I would lose space on the rack. ETA Oops. That the price of the seat cover.
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Posted: 1/11/2017 1:45:17 AM EDT
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I have an old frame, Murray, or something like it. But I've been thinking about doing a Whizzer kit on it. Those ones in the pics were cool, but I like the retro cruiser frame. Your post is making it harder to resist. I got to many sticks in the fire now though. But I do want one one day.
Maybe put one on this. 52 Schwinn 
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Posted: 1/11/2017 1:54:13 AM EDT
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Combustion engine driven bicycles are basically illegal to drive on the road in Florida.
It's an ugly gray area. I looked into building them a couple years ago. They were all the rage among the DUI no license crowd for a while. Then the law shut that shit down. Can't have 50 yr old DUI convicts holding down shitty jobs on shitty gas powered bikes! It's uncouth! Better to let them starve, apparently. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 2:41:33 AM EDT
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Mine is a Trek 920 rigid bike, with 9 speeds in the back. The motor is a Subaru/Robin 33cc four stroke, on a Straton friction drive. Mileage is always over 100 mpg. Starting takes one pull if it has been used recently, two pulls if it hasn't been ridden in a while.
That said, I use my ebike a lot more. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 9:21:15 AM EDT
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I like the seat on that.
It has old style bicycle cruiser handlebars. That is the style of exhaust pipes that I will use. That will send the noise to the rear. I found some dovetail fenders on Ebay. They are 3 1/4 wide. Just wider than the 26x3 inch fat tires on Amazon, but they comes with MTB tires. Rims of that size are 2 to 3 times more than the cost of the wheel set. I want to put some Duro Beach Bums with white walls on it for the summer. I am buying the forks on Thursday. I will squeeze out cash next week for the wheels. My purchases have been advance in case some items double if there is a Trump tax levied on ChiCom goods. Holding out on the handle bars until I see both the forks and the frame together. I have an old seat to sit on for now. I really like the looks of the motor cycle handle bar since it looks better than using a MTB bar. I can stick some aluminum rods in the holes to support gauges on center. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/117988/IMG-0956-123525.JPGNot quite the same but I'm restoring one of these... It's a Simplex Servi-Cycle
It has old style bicycle cruiser handlebars. That is the style of exhaust pipes that I will use. That will send the noise to the rear. I found some dovetail fenders on Ebay. They are 3 1/4 wide. Just wider than the 26x3 inch fat tires on Amazon, but they comes with MTB tires. Rims of that size are 2 to 3 times more than the cost of the wheel set. I want to put some Duro Beach Bums with white walls on it for the summer. I am buying the forks on Thursday. I will squeeze out cash next week for the wheels. My purchases have been advance in case some items double if there is a Trump tax levied on ChiCom goods. Holding out on the handle bars until I see both the forks and the frame together. I have an old seat to sit on for now. I really like the looks of the motor cycle handle bar since it looks better than using a MTB bar. I can stick some aluminum rods in the holes to support gauges on center. You may want to look at worksman wheels. They are SUPER heavy duty and won't give you any problems in the long run. They are a little pricey but they are made in the US and they will last your lifetime. It would be worth it to also look at their seats since they look a little like the one in the picture. Also, could you link the dovetail fenders? I'm restoring a simplex and building another pretty much from scratch. I'd like to see the fenders you found. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 9:34:34 AM EDT
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I see those motorized bicycles all over the ghetto being ridden by the rich and vibrant. Usually have all kinds of bling hanging off them and they ride with no regard for anyone's safety and always without lights in the dark.
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Posted: 1/11/2017 2:12:19 PM EDT
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I found some dovetail fenders on Ebay. They are 3 1/4 wide. Generally we skip the fenders on motorized bikes. What happens over time is the vibration from the engine cracks the fenders and they break off. Traveling under power at 30+MPH and having your wheel eat a fender means you get launched over the bars. Seriously - fenders are killers. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 4:24:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2017 9:19:25 PM EDT
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I've built a few China Girls in my time. Right now I'm working on a trike powered by a Huasheng 50cc 4-stroke. Check out http://motorbicycling.com/ - it's the ARFcom of motorized bicycles. Another good one is http://motoredbikes.com/. I noticed that most of the bikes in the pictures are using the off the shelf single gear for cruiser bike. Would a Shimano FC-M552-L MTB crankset like this, fit on this frame? https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campId=5337559805&toolId=10001&customId=ixtot8r8j800zk8a00004&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F371654993219%3F_trksid%3Dp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 9:24:50 PM EDT
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Combustion engine driven bicycles are basically illegal to drive on the road in Florida. It's an ugly gray area. I looked into building them a couple years ago. They were all the rage among the DUI no license crowd for a while. Then the law shut that shit down. Can't have 50 yr old DUI convicts holding down shitty jobs on shitty gas powered bikes! It's uncouth! Better to let them starve, apparently. 14+ tears old No license No registration Question on speed. May be limited to 20 MPH |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 9:26:35 PM EDT
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Generally we skip the fenders on motorized bikes. What happens over time is the vibration from the engine cracks the fenders and they break off. Traveling under power at 30+MPH and having your wheel eat a fender means you get launched over the bars. Seriously - fenders are killers. Was that plastic or metal? I got a rock in the shin from the front wheel. Being diabetic. I still have the mark from it two months later. That is why I was looking at fenders. Maybe I should be wearing two leg shields. On the other hand I just saved some money
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Posted: 1/11/2017 9:28:13 PM EDT
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They're illegal here now in NC, if you're caught riding one by an LEO in a bad mood you're going to either get to jail or get impounded.
Also since I was hit by a car I will not ride bikes around these parts. Too many morons. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 9:29:33 PM EDT
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I built this to ride to work last summer. Can't wait for warm weather again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/304989/20161125-160317-123799.JPG AR15 and AK47 approved bags
Reminds me of euro type military bicycle bags on ebay 
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Posted: 1/11/2017 9:34:03 PM EDT
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They're illegal here now in NC, if you're caught riding one by an LEO in a bad mood you're going to either get to jail or get impounded. Also since I was hit by a car I will not ride bikes around these parts. Too many morons. They were on the corner and were about to cross the street I was lucky. |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 9:48:22 PM EDT
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You may want to look at worksman wheels. They are SUPER heavy duty and won't give you any problems in the long run. They are a little pricey but they are made in the US and they will last your lifetime. It would be worth it to also look at their seats since they look a little like the one in the picture. Also, could you link the dovetail fenders? I'm restoring a simplex and building another pretty much from scratch. I'd like to see the fenders you found. 
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campId=5337559805&toolId=10001&customId=ixtpuh6sh500zk8a00004&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F120961333779%3F_trksid%3Dp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Posted: 1/11/2017 10:03:13 PM EDT
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Nice handlebar.
Its on a MBM Wamea city bike on Ebay 
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Posted: 1/11/2017 10:08:42 PM EDT
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One of my nutty uncle's built a couple back in the '70s, I remember one was on a BMX frame and the other was a cruiser. Being my uncle, both were overpowered and dangerous and my mom would not let me ride the BMX one. IIRC he broke an arm jumping the BMX model and wrecked the other at some point as well. Same uncle had an overpowered and scary fast motorized skateboard at one point too.
He's had a lot of cool toys over the years but stick to cars these days.
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Posted: 1/11/2017 10:14:10 PM EDT
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Found this on Ebay. Scooter handle bar
$32 and $11 shipping 26 inches wide 
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Posted: 1/11/2017 10:21:37 PM EDT
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I built this to ride to work last summer. Can't wait for warm weather again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/304989/20161125-160317-123799.JPG This is what I thought would be the ticket. Wal mart bike $150 Whizzer kit $150 $300 transportation.
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