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Posted: 4/16/2012 4:17:47 PM EDT
And I'm not talking about just Black people doing it. White kids, Asain kids, etc act like this. Why? Is it because they see these thugs do whatever they want and it goes unpunished? I don't get it.
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It blew up in the 1990's when I lived in ATL.
It was around before that, but it was not mainstream. |
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When Michael Jackson got on MTV, mid eighties.
Before that, ghetto culture was primarily found in the ghettos. |
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Do you mean when did people start romanticizing criminals?
We might have to go a ways back. |
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Beethoven was wayyyyyy out of line. He should have been punked.
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Quoted: Do you mean when did people start romanticizing criminals? We might have to go a ways back. Yup. If we are specifically talking about Black or Latino versions of thug/ghetto culture, then it is more recent. |
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It came....Straight Outa Compton That's when I started to really notice it - when that album came out (around 1988, IIRC). |
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Do you mean when did people start romanticizing criminals? We might have to go a ways back. Billy the Kid comics/story books in the 1890s? |
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When Dr Dre's album The Chronic came out. Yep about that time- early 90's. |
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It came with the push for multiculturalism. Celebrate their diversity or they will cave your head in!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There have been douchebags since the dawn of time.
Ghetto douchebags since '87 |
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Late 80s when Black Thug life really started take off. Coinciding with crack taking off and low lives flaunting easy money.
New Jack City documentary was my intro. |
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The beginning of the war on drugs. Just like gangsters were idolized during prohibition.
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When dads quit whipping ass for such behavior. Thugs don't have dads. |
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The MTV comment above is correct, it started when rap crap went mainstream, MTV then became a ghetto network exuding the coolness of the culture.
Now they have parity on MTV, promoting the white trash jersey utes and such. |
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And I'm not talking about just Black people doing it. White kids, Asain kids, etc act like this. Why? Is it because they see these thugs do whatever they want and it goes unpunished? I don't get it. When Yo! MTV Raps came out. |
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Quoted: Quoted: When dads quit whipping ass for such behavior. Thugs don't have dads. Or belts, with which to have their asses whooped. |
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Quoted: In the 50s with Elvis. You're gonna burn for that!! Late 80 or so, 2 Live Crew , Tupac and a shit scream of others that shocked more than anything. If Navarro hadn't close a record store in Ft Lauderdale, 2 Live Crew would have stayed in the gutter. |
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And I'm not talking about just Black people doing it. White kids, Asain kids, etc act like this. Why? Is it because they see these thugs do whatever they want and it goes unpunished? I don't get it. When Yo! MTV Raps came out. This |
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when movies like Colors came out and suburban/white trash white kids decided they were gangstas yo
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I began to notice it in the late 1980s. Not too long after "Yo, MTV Raps" began. |
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Seen the Movie Colors???
Around here it started a few years before that... I think it really started takin off when I was in 8th or 9th Grade... One year all we had was a lot of Disciples/Folk, the next year we had a lot of Crips and a few Bloods... Never had any Mexican or Asian gangs around here, or if so the numbers were so small, no one noticed... |
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Quoted: I began to notice it in the late 1980s. I think the Beastie Boys brought rap music into the suburbs during the late 80's. The genre and culture has never looked back. White suburban and small town kids attracted to what they found to be an exotic unknown culture that they didn't really fully understand, hence the attraction.
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Quoted: In the 50s with Elvis. Prohibition with Capone 1800's with Jesse James & Billy The Kid etc... |
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Quoted: It blew up in the 1990's when I lived in ATL. It was around before that, but it was not mainstream. This. It was when groups like Public Enemy and other gangsta types took over from the more lighthearted rap like RUN DMC |
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Quoted: Quoted: It came....Straight Outa Compton That's when I started to really notice it - when that album came out (around 1988, IIRC). The 88/89 school year I got a ride to school everyday with a brother who only had one tape. Easy E on one side and NWA on the other. I still have valuable memory space that seems to only be used for remembering the lyrics instead of anything useful. |
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Its roots began with welfare worship, having 5-10 kids by different dads, none of whom bothered to stick around to be a dad, thugly behavior by athletes many of whom were raised in that type of environment, and was certainly nutured by the likes of Jesse, Al, and entertainment types. The msm and whites riddled by guilt certainly helped.
The list could probably go on ad nauseum, but the above is a start. |
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Quoted: better question, how do we stop it?... Ding Ding Ding..... |
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When Michael Jackson got on MTV, mid eighties. Before that, ghetto culture was primarily found in the ghettos. Michael Jackson was about as ghetto as I am 1992. Mtv stopped playing videos (except hp-hop) and went political (overtly supported Clinton). |
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When women found it attractive. Bingo round here the girls love the low life scumbags no matter the color although there is a trend I would point out if it wouldnt label me "racist". |
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better question, how do we stop it?... By telling kids not to be rebellious |
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When dads quit whipping ass for such behavior. Thugs don't have dads. Or belts, with which to have their asses whooped. Ok that one got me LMAO |
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better question, how do we stop it?... By telling kids not to be rebellious Yeah, a real talkin' to, like Andy did with Opie |
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In the 50s with Elvis. Yeah, but the thug factor wasn't there until much later. I noticed the sub-culture in the late 80s, but it wasn't until the early 90s that I noticed EVERYONE starting to glom onto it. |
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And I'm not talking about just Black people doing it. White kids, Asain kids, etc act like this. Why? Is it because they see these thugs do whatever they want and it goes unpunished? I don't get it. It is the easy way out. Don't need to get an education, job or have any responisibility. The Welfare state under LBJ started the ball rolling. We are not at the end of the hilll when the ball crashes. |
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Ehh..I remember it becoming pretty popular when I was in middle school. Approx. 97-98 or so. This was in a largely white upper-upper middle class area in suburban Atlanta. We had a handful of black kids at my school and they were automatically considered "cool" because they were black. Hip-hop, rap whatever typically has a catchy beat and that is what people want to party to. Even people who never listen to it on their own want to listen to it when they go to a party or club/bar. Girls don't dance to Metallica, guys want whatever will make girls grind their asses on their dicks. They rarely listen closely to the lyrics or judge them.
The music is really what paved the way. Without the music, the "culture" would have stayed in the ghetto. |
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