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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:35:43 AM EDT
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Second Sino-Japanese War.
Full scale war: July 7, 1937 – September 9, 1945 (8 years, 2 months and 2 days) Casualties and losses: Nationalist: 1,320,000 KIA, 1,797,000 WIA, 120,000 MIA, and 17,000,000–22,000,000 civilians dead [5] Communist: 500,000 KIA and WIA. Number of Chinese prisonners released alive in 1945: 68. Not 68 hundreds, not 68 thousands, no: 68, just 68. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:56:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Second Sino-Japanese War. Full scale war: July 7, 1937 – September 9, 1945 (8 years, 2 months and 2 days) Casualties and losses: Nationalist: 1,320,000 KIA, 1,797,000 WIA, 120,000 MIA, and 17,000,000–22,000,000 civilians dead [5] Communist: 500,000 KIA and WIA. Number of Chinese prisonners released alive in 1945: 68. Not 68 hundreds, not 68 thousands, no: 68, just 68. The Japanese viewed the Chinese as something less than pest animals. They truly didn't give a fuck about them.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 11:15:01 AM EDT
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This kind of sums it up. The Western world is not going to get quite as riled up when the victims are other Asians. The Chinese in particular have always been pretty cunty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If memory serves there were over a thousand Japanese executed for war crimes by the Western allies.....About the same as the Germans. Those that were simply marched east and "disappeared" by the Soviets into labor camps are another story. One in six made it back home and then only 10-15 years after the war ended. The Soviets did the same thing to Japanese POWs and those that they convicted for war crimes so the figure may be much higher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_prisoners_of_war_in_the_Soviet_Union I don't think they got much of a "pass" at all. This kind of sums it up. The Western world is not going to get quite as riled up when the victims are other Asians. The Chinese in particular have always been pretty cunty. Eh, if you are looking forward, you also want a Western-friendly Japan to contain the Soviet access to sea lanes. If Japan is friendly and your ships are based there, the Soviets are in a box. If Japan is unfriendly to you, that situation becomes much more difficult. And as murderers go, Stalin still has the Emperor beat. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:25:41 PM EDT
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Watch some of the older documentaries about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Japanese officialsex-soldiers, call Americans the most brutal, inhumane and barbaric people on the earth.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:10:57 PM EDT
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By who? The Japanese...?!-?! Have you actually *read* the book, and looked at her sources... ?!-?! Or just listened to the official response from Japanese folks who continue to deny that *anything* happened in Nanking. To listen to the Japanese talk, the Japanese went to Nanking on a humanitarian exercise...  
Much of the claims in the book were from a *minister* who was a missionary in China... And other fellow missionaries who witnessed many of the more horrendous claims first-hand. Yeah, the Chinese had short memories about the atrocities that happened... But the no-dog-in-the-fight, third-party source was freaking Christian missionaries... Much (~most, ~all) of the claims in "Rape of Nanking" were known long before the book was written. She just went through the leg work to produce an academically rigorous work putting all the claims together. It is historically accurate. Yeah... Culturally, the Japanese continued to deny that atrocities occurred. In many circles there is a *continued* mentality, "Why would evil Americans attack *us,* a peace-loving people?" Culturally speaking, the Japanese have never opened-up about their past mistakes at all... As for the *accuracy* of the horrendous claims in the book... The acts were known in academic circles for years... Long before the book was published... And her sources are crystal-clear... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some of the claims are disputed. . By who? The Japanese...?!-?! Have you actually *read* the book, and looked at her sources... ?!-?! Or just listened to the official response from Japanese folks who continue to deny that *anything* happened in Nanking. To listen to the Japanese talk, the Japanese went to Nanking on a humanitarian exercise...
Much of the claims in the book were from a *minister* who was a missionary in China... And other fellow missionaries who witnessed many of the more horrendous claims first-hand. Yeah, the Chinese had short memories about the atrocities that happened... But the no-dog-in-the-fight, third-party source was freaking Christian missionaries... Much (~most, ~all) of the claims in "Rape of Nanking" were known long before the book was written. She just went through the leg work to produce an academically rigorous work putting all the claims together. It is historically accurate. Yeah... Culturally, the Japanese continued to deny that atrocities occurred. In many circles there is a *continued* mentality, "Why would evil Americans attack *us,* a peace-loving people?" Culturally speaking, the Japanese have never opened-up about their past mistakes at all... As for the *accuracy* of the horrendous claims in the book... The acts were known in academic circles for years... Long before the book was published... And her sources are crystal-clear... Yes, I read The Rape Of Nanking. I read it the year after it was released. I also read other accounts of the invasion of Nanking, by westerners, that disputed the accuracy of the book. For instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_Nanking_%28book%29#Criticism And don't you ever accuse me of spreading propaganda for Imperial Japan, you rotten little son of a bitch. |
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