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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:34:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If God wanted turtlenecks he would not have removed them in the Bible. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:35:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Theres research showing that causign such extreme pain to a newborn affects its brain, to a degree where hes more likely to be a violent person. Looking at the societies that have this as a common practice its not that hard to believe this to be true. Then theres link to autism, etc, its so much more of a bigger deal than people think.
FerFAL Trollin' trollin' trollin' keep them dongles trollin' OP IS a master with the bait... |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:35:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Smegma. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:35:32 PM EDT
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You do realize that these things aren't the same right? For it to be analogous circumcision would have to be the complete removing of the head of the penis. There are several common forms of FGM that range from 'ritualized purification nicks' to clitorial excision and infibulation. Some of the intermediary forms of FGM are akin to some types of labiaplasty. Hence, some forms of female circumcision are quite analogous to male circumcision while others are analogous to lopping off the head of the penis. The WHO FGM classification guidelines, while not without their issues, are a decent starting place for understanding the different 'types' so to speak. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:35:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:36:42 PM EDT
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In before defensive cut guys. In the U.S., most men get circumcised. It wasn't like that in Canada where I grew up. The advantage of not being circumcised is you can identify the Muslim enemy by simply pulling down their pants. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:37:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:37:47 PM EDT
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Smegma crazies to the left! Gay boy berzerkers to the right!
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:38:07 PM EDT
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If God wanted turtlenecks he would not have removed them in the Bible. So do you wear clothes made from two different fibers? Eat pork ? Shellfish ? Offer burnt sacrifice ? Cut your hair and beard? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:38:42 PM EDT
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American boys are getting their dicks cut off? Or just useless skin removed? My guess is you do not understand what they did to those 200,000,000 girls. You beat me to it. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:39:37 PM EDT
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There are apparently quite a few people here who are far to interested in what other dude's cocks look like. Seriously. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:40:31 PM EDT
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Circumcision is removing some nerve endings and some extra skin. FGM is lopping off the clitoris and labia, sewing the vagina shut with just a small hole to urinate and menstruate through, to be forcibly torn open by the new husband's dick on wedding night. Sex will always be painful for those women that have it done. Apples to oranges OP. Who told you its extra skin???? Its normal skin in your penis which covers and protects the glan and urinal tract. YOu dont have excess fingers, or an extra testicle, or an extra eye. Not all FGM are alike, some cut the clitoral hood, some just make a couple ritual cuts without amputation (thats FAR less drastic than amputating the foreksin). At the end of the day. a) you get charged for it, what is it? 500 extra a pop for the medical industry. b) They SELL your kids foreskin. Its tissue that is extremly flexible (due to the function youve been led to beleive it doesnt do, and youve been told youre better off without) making it ideal of skigraphs , implants, lab research, even beauty products. c) You kid suffers during the mutilation, suffers like crazy during the first few days of his life given the horrible wound. Babies have bleed to death, suffered infections. d)Youve been lied about it reducing STD, about "problems with the foreskin". 80% of males live perfectily with their dicks the way they were born. No problem. e)Dirty dick? Dear God, a bath every now and then and soap. No one showers anymore. f)phimosis? My son had it when he was a baby. The doctor say he needed a circumcision. I didnt beat the shit out of that bitch because she was a women. Guess what, few days later the phimosis went away on its own and never came back. No surgery. No mutlated dick. No money for that SOB. Got ourselves a less greedy pediatrician. g) Sex for a man without his foreskin will never be like it is for an intact man. h)Same goes for women. It simply cant be without a normal penis. It will always feel more rough and take more time to lubricate and your just missing the part that glides into the vagina, a corse penis head scrubbing against delicate interal tissue which should be making contact with similar tissue on the penis side which you no longer have. The list goes on and on. FerFAL |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:41:00 PM EDT
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In before the cop haters blame circumcision on LEOs Now there's a novel idea. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:41:05 PM EDT
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To me it's an extremely strange cultural practice. There are multiple teachings in the New Testament that Gentiles don't need to be circumcised. Yet many modern day American Christians do it.
I'm circumcised, my three sons are circumcised, I don't regret either. But I don't equate it to anything other than an unnecessary cosmetic surgery prompted in part by the rather strange expectation by many (most?) women that the piece of skin in question won't be present. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:41:54 PM EDT
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What we call "male circumcision" is completely analogous to Type Ia female genital mutilation. Only one of these procedures is legal in the United States though... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Type I is subdivided into Ia, removal of the clitoral hood (rarely performed alone),[n 7] and the more common Ib (clitoridectomy), the complete or partial removal of the clitoral glans and clitoral hood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation What we call "male circumcision" is completely analogous to Type Ia female genital mutilation. Only one of these procedures is legal in the United States though... More refined and re-labeled forms are quite legal when preformed by the medical establishment. There are even insurance billing codes. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:42:13 PM EDT
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Catholic and part of the sane 80% of the planet that thinks a baby is fine the way he is and understands that a) Mutiliating your son makes no sense whatsoever b)the foreskin has a number of important functions c) No sane guy wants a smaller dick (yes, people, when you cut away part of something you make it smaller). Your mutilated dick is normal? ok. 
Dead serious. Just read what people here post. "useless skin" a guy said. I mean, some people here clearly dont even understand whats been done to them, often by feminists that say "oh it looks better that way". You guys have a society where feminists are telling you that you shoudl cut of the sensitive part of your dick because it looks better? How about cutting THEIR genitals? Guys here clearly dont undetand the role of the foreskin and how it works in normal sexual intercorse or masturbation. Its just sad. Theres research showing that causign such extreme pain to a newborn affects its brain, to a degree where hes more likely to be a violent person. Looking at the societies that have this as a common practice its not that hard to believe this to be true. Then theres link to autism, etc, its so much more of a bigger deal than people think. FerFAL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In this thread we learn that OP's parents were hippies who had no religion and whose penis looks weird compared to normal men. Catholic and part of the sane 80% of the planet that thinks a baby is fine the way he is and understands that a) Mutiliating your son makes no sense whatsoever b)the foreskin has a number of important functions c) No sane guy wants a smaller dick (yes, people, when you cut away part of something you make it smaller). Your mutilated dick is normal? ok.
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Dear OP: Seriously?  Dead serious. Just read what people here post. "useless skin" a guy said. I mean, some people here clearly dont even understand whats been done to them, often by feminists that say "oh it looks better that way". You guys have a society where feminists are telling you that you shoudl cut of the sensitive part of your dick because it looks better? How about cutting THEIR genitals? Guys here clearly dont undetand the role of the foreskin and how it works in normal sexual intercorse or masturbation. Its just sad. Theres research showing that causign such extreme pain to a newborn affects its brain, to a degree where hes more likely to be a violent person. Looking at the societies that have this as a common practice its not that hard to believe this to be true. Then theres link to autism, etc, its so much more of a bigger deal than people think. FerFAL 
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:42:16 PM EDT
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Trollin' trollin' trollin' keep them dongles trollin' OP IS a master with the bait... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:Theres research showing that causign such extreme pain to a newborn affects its brain, to a degree where hes more likely to be a violent person. Looking at the societies that have this as a common practice its not that hard to believe this to be true. Then theres link to autism, etc, its so much more of a bigger deal than people think.
FerFAL Trollin' trollin' trollin' keep them dongles trollin' OP IS a master with the bait... Either he is trolling or being uncut is actually what gives you autism because I am definitely getting the feeling that he is on the spectrum
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:45:24 PM EDT
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Tell us about what important functions the foreskin performs. Maybe we can invent some kind of gadget to replace it and profit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In this thread we learn that OP's parents were hippies who had no religion and whose penis looks weird compared to normal men. Catholic and part of the sane 80% of the planet that thinks a baby is fine the way he is and understands that a) Mutiliating your son makes no sense whatsoever b)the foreskin has a number of important functions c) No sane guy wants a smaller dick (yes, people, when you cut away part of something you make it smaller). Your mutilated dick is normal? ok.
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Dear OP: Seriously? Dead serious. Just read what people here post. "useless skin" a guy said. I mean, some people here clearly dont even understand whats been done to them, often by feminists that say "oh it looks better that way". You guys have a society where feminists are telling you that you shoudl cut of the sensitive part of your dick because it looks better? How about cutting THEIR genitals? Guys here clearly dont undetand the role of the foreskin and how it works in normal sexual intercorse or masturbation. Its just sad. Theres research showing that causign such extreme pain to a newborn affects its brain, to a degree where hes more likely to be a violent person. Looking at the societies that have this as a common practice its not that hard to believe this to be true. Then theres link to autism, etc, its so much more of a bigger deal than people think. FerFAL Tell us about what important functions the foreskin performs. Maybe we can invent some kind of gadget to replace it and profit. You would, but unfortunately its impossible. You would need somthing as flexible as latex, permanently lubricated, double walled full of nerves and attached around the head of your penis. ITs just impossible. Theres guys that go for foreskin restoration slowly streching the skin of the shaft and streching it over a period of time, making it looks like a foreskin. unfortunatley it just doesnt work the same way. The foreskin has a lot of nerve endings you simply cant replace that way and its not the same elasticity either. It just wont glide inside a woman like foreskin does. Not sure if you were joking or asking seriousy but the answer is no, it just cant be replaced any more than growing a new eyelid after its been cut off or a lip completely amputated. Function: Keeps the gland covered, keeping the skin of the penis head as soft and as sensitive as the interior of the vagina. Its in fact so sensitive that an intact guy simply cant walk around with his foreskin pulled back. The sensation drives you nuts, yet its works great when inside a woman. Besides keeping the head of the penis sensitive it has nerve endings of its own. When inside the vagina it works like a double wall, the penis glides inside the woman during intercouse and only at the very end of the stroke does the head touch the inside.It also helps improve the seal of the penis and works like an extra layer after exaculation, a kind of o-ring on the tip of the penis if you will, this helps keep the semens against the cervix. FerFAL |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:50:38 PM EDT
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But it's normal! And women want it that way! And no uncut male has ever been laid willingly, plus it's just icky! The last time my hands got dirty, I cut them off so I wouldn't have to wash them. It's just easier that way.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:51:33 PM EDT
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More refined and re-labeled forms are quite legal when preformed by the medical establishment. There are even insurance billing codes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Type I is subdivided into Ia, removal of the clitoral hood (rarely performed alone),[n 7] and the more common Ib (clitoridectomy), the complete or partial removal of the clitoral glans and clitoral hood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation What we call "male circumcision" is completely analogous to Type Ia female genital mutilation. Only one of these procedures is legal in the United States though... More refined and re-labeled forms are quite legal when preformed by the medical establishment. There are even insurance billing codes. In 1996 it became illegal under Title 18 of the United States Code, § 116, to perform FGM on minors for non-medical reasons,[234] and the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013 prohibited transporting a minor out of the country for the purpose of FGM.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:51:45 PM EDT
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Somehow I doubt there's a health benefit to having a woman's clitoris removed.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:52:06 PM EDT
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In for the posters arguing that because male mutilation isn't quite as bad, it's acceptable.
How many posters who argue against abortion on grounds of "it's not her body" refuse to apply the same standard to children outside the womb? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:52:23 PM EDT
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Today CNN says "200 million women and girls live with female genital mutilation, says U.N." http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/06/health/200-million-with-fgm/index.html Yet not a single word is said about boys getting mutilated, a common practice still in USA, Islamic and Jewish cultures. WTF is up with the double standard? If cutting off an important part of a babys dick doesnt already sound horrible wrong lets just put it this way. Its as unconstitutional as hell to ban female mutilation, yet allow male mutilation. Men and women are supposed to enjoy the same human rights. Anyway, just noticed that nice double standard CNN has. If you watch the video on the link, you'll see its the exact same thing done to boys during circumcision, everything from the restrains, to cutting, bleeding, risk of infection, risk of death, loss of sensitivity, etc. FerFAL Important? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:53:07 PM EDT
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Who told you its extra skin???? Its normal skin in your penis which covers and protects the glan and urinal tract. YOu dont have excess fingers, or an extra testicle, or an extra eye. Not all FGM are alike, some cut the clitoral hood, some just make a couple ritual cuts without amputation (thats FAR less drastic than amputating the foreksin). At the end of the day. a) you get charged for it, what is it? 500 extra a pop for the medical industry. b) They SELL your kids foreskin. Its tissue that is extremly flexible (due to the function youve been led to beleive it doesnt do, and youve been told youre better off without) making it ideal of skigraphs , implants, lab research, even beauty products. c) You kid suffers during the mutilation, suffers like crazy during the first few days of his life given the horrible wound. Babies have bleed to death, suffered infections. d)Youve been lied about it reducing STD, about "problems with the foreskin". 80% of males live perfectily with their dicks the way they were born. No problem. e)Dirty dick? Dear God, a bath every now and then and soap. No one showers anymore. f)phimosis? My son had it when he was a baby. The doctor say he needed a circumcision. I didnt beat the shit out of that bitch because she was a women. Guess what, few days later the phimosis went away on its own and never came back. No surgery. No mutlated dick. No money for that SOB. Got ourselves a less greedy pediatrician. g) Sex for a man without his foreskin will never be like it is for an intact man. h)Same goes for women. It simply cant be without a normal penis. It will always feel more rough and take more time to lubricate and your just missing the part that glides into the vagina, a corse penis head scrubbing against delicate interal tissue which should be making contact with similar tissue on the penis side which you no longer have. The list goes on and on. FerFAL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Circumcision is removing some nerve endings and some extra skin. FGM is lopping off the clitoris and labia, sewing the vagina shut with just a small hole to urinate and menstruate through, to be forcibly torn open by the new husband's dick on wedding night. Sex will always be painful for those women that have it done. Apples to oranges OP. Who told you its extra skin???? Its normal skin in your penis which covers and protects the glan and urinal tract. YOu dont have excess fingers, or an extra testicle, or an extra eye. Not all FGM are alike, some cut the clitoral hood, some just make a couple ritual cuts without amputation (thats FAR less drastic than amputating the foreksin). At the end of the day. a) you get charged for it, what is it? 500 extra a pop for the medical industry. b) They SELL your kids foreskin. Its tissue that is extremly flexible (due to the function youve been led to beleive it doesnt do, and youve been told youre better off without) making it ideal of skigraphs , implants, lab research, even beauty products. c) You kid suffers during the mutilation, suffers like crazy during the first few days of his life given the horrible wound. Babies have bleed to death, suffered infections. d)Youve been lied about it reducing STD, about "problems with the foreskin". 80% of males live perfectily with their dicks the way they were born. No problem. e)Dirty dick? Dear God, a bath every now and then and soap. No one showers anymore. f)phimosis? My son had it when he was a baby. The doctor say he needed a circumcision. I didnt beat the shit out of that bitch because she was a women. Guess what, few days later the phimosis went away on its own and never came back. No surgery. No mutlated dick. No money for that SOB. Got ourselves a less greedy pediatrician. g) Sex for a man without his foreskin will never be like it is for an intact man. h)Same goes for women. It simply cant be without a normal penis. It will always feel more rough and take more time to lubricate and your just missing the part that glides into the vagina, a corse penis head scrubbing against delicate interal tissue which should be making contact with similar tissue on the penis side which you no longer have. The list goes on and on. FerFAL Well one thing's for sure......no one can question your passion about penis. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:55:57 PM EDT
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Its prefectly analogous. Foreskin is actually bigger than a clitoral hood. In some cultures they only make a couple cuts on the hood without even removing it fulyl, which they to to the amptuated foreskin. The video clip mentions the practice so as to avoid girls from having sex early. Male genital mutilation was popularised in America among non religious by John Harvey Kellogg with the objective of "Masturbation prevention". This sad motherfuker didnt want babies touching their dicks and wanted to make it hard for teens to masturbate. Having no foreskin makes it impossible for a guy to masturbate unless he has some kind of lubricant, which is pretty sad. Theres so many similarities that its hard not to see them. Anyway, hard to believe sane people must be told this but in case anyone is still thinking about it: DO NOT cut off part of your kids dick. Every excuse in favor of this insanitity is pure BS, everything from "it better that way" to the " it prevents STD" down to "it looks nicer" or "it gets infected". Not a single logical reason to do this to a baby. Its as logical as cutting off your upper lip or finger. FerFAL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize that these things aren't the same right? For it to be analogous circumcision would have to be the complete removing of the head of the penis. Its prefectly analogous. Foreskin is actually bigger than a clitoral hood. In some cultures they only make a couple cuts on the hood without even removing it fulyl, which they to to the amptuated foreskin. The video clip mentions the practice so as to avoid girls from having sex early. Male genital mutilation was popularised in America among non religious by John Harvey Kellogg with the objective of "Masturbation prevention". This sad motherfuker didnt want babies touching their dicks and wanted to make it hard for teens to masturbate. Having no foreskin makes it impossible for a guy to masturbate unless he has some kind of lubricant, which is pretty sad. Theres so many similarities that its hard not to see them. Anyway, hard to believe sane people must be told this but in case anyone is still thinking about it: DO NOT cut off part of your kids dick. Every excuse in favor of this insanitity is pure BS, everything from "it better that way" to the " it prevents STD" down to "it looks nicer" or "it gets infected". Not a single logical reason to do this to a baby. Its as logical as cutting off your upper lip or finger. FerFAL Lol what i do it all the time |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 6:59:42 PM EDT
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Well one thing's for sure......no one can question your passion about penis. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Circumcision is removing some nerve endings and some extra skin. FGM is lopping off the clitoris and labia, sewing the vagina shut with just a small hole to urinate and menstruate through, to be forcibly torn open by the new husband's dick on wedding night. Sex will always be painful for those women that have it done. Apples to oranges OP. Who told you its extra skin???? Its normal skin in your penis which covers and protects the glan and urinal tract. YOu dont have excess fingers, or an extra testicle, or an extra eye. Not all FGM are alike, some cut the clitoral hood, some just make a couple ritual cuts without amputation (thats FAR less drastic than amputating the foreksin). At the end of the day. a) you get charged for it, what is it? 500 extra a pop for the medical industry. b) They SELL your kids foreskin. Its tissue that is extremly flexible (due to the function youve been led to beleive it doesnt do, and youve been told youre better off without) making it ideal of skigraphs , implants, lab research, even beauty products. c) You kid suffers during the mutilation, suffers like crazy during the first few days of his life given the horrible wound. Babies have bleed to death, suffered infections. d)Youve been lied about it reducing STD, about "problems with the foreskin". 80% of males live perfectily with their dicks the way they were born. No problem. e)Dirty dick? Dear God, a bath every now and then and soap. No one showers anymore. f)phimosis? My son had it when he was a baby. The doctor say he needed a circumcision. I didnt beat the shit out of that bitch because she was a women. Guess what, few days later the phimosis went away on its own and never came back. No surgery. No mutlated dick. No money for that SOB. Got ourselves a less greedy pediatrician. g) Sex for a man without his foreskin will never be like it is for an intact man. h)Same goes for women. It simply cant be without a normal penis. It will always feel more rough and take more time to lubricate and your just missing the part that glides into the vagina, a corse penis head scrubbing against delicate interal tissue which should be making contact with similar tissue on the penis side which you no longer have. The list goes on and on. FerFAL Well one thing's for sure......no one can question your passion about penis. 100% honesty? I come from a culture where this simply doesnt exist. When I learned about it as an adult ti was hard for me to understand how sane, reasonable people would do something like this. When I learned the kind of pain a cihld goes through, WHY this has been promoted, and fully undetstood what people mutilated this way are missing, I just feel its important to do as much a possible to help people into understanding why this is very wrong and not a matter of looks or choice or even religion. Theres Rabbis that are more than happy to do a ritual WITHOUT cutting the baby. Theres just no reason to do something like this. FerFAL |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:02:09 PM EDT
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Not me, I was born perfect and no retard tried to fix nature by cutting part of my dick off thank God. FerFAL Are you also confused why you can't get head? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:04:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: American boys are getting their dicks cut off? Or just useless skin removed? My guess is you do not understand what they did to those 200,000,000 girls. Came here to say this. Clipping dirty stinky skin off is NOT the same as cutting the clitoris off. The OP has a sweaty turtle neck on his dick and is arguing a misinformed opinion to justify to himself that most women don't think he is a freak. It's okay OP... we don't judge here.  <edit> Just realized that the OP lives where most men has dirty sweaty stinky dicks. The women there don't know any better so the OP is cool in their book. Also, this is a passive aggressive Yank bashing thread. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:04:33 PM EDT
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I would say GD can still surprise, except this has been done many, many times. OP is a whackado.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:05:00 PM EDT
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We did this topic to death last week.
Read all about it edit; except for the female mutilation subject, which is horrible. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:08:14 PM EDT
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OP: With all the chopped-off foreskins in the US, guess how few of said guys are NOT chasing pussy because it feels good. That's right, virtually ALL men who have their foreskin removed still enjoy sex and have orgasms.
I agree that there is no point in removing the foreskin. But FGM removes the clitoris, the inner and outer labia, and sometimes even a part of the vagina itself. The resultant gaping wound is then sewn shut, making it a twenty minute ordeal just to take a piss, because you have to sit there and go drip... drip... drip. Sex is not only not pleasurable, but painful, something which will never change for a woman who has suffered FGM. That's right. Sex is still pleasurable for circumcised men, whereas it is a painful, completely unpleasant ordeal for victims of FGM. Further, when males are circumcised as babies, they don't remember the pain or the procedure. More and more doctors are doing this procedure with pain meds, because doing the procedure without pain meds is cruel. But FGM is usually performed when the girl is around 3 - 5, more than old enough to remember the pain of the procedure. Plus, the procedure takes off a LOT more tissue that is a LOT more sensitive than the foreskin, making it more painful than circumcision to begin with. Because the instruments used to mutilate young girls' vaginas in those third world shitholes are typically rusted razor blades (not cleaned from their last procedure, yay) or similar, quite a lot of the victims get massive infections. Rates of infection and death from FGM are WAY higher than those of circumcision performed in a hospital. The rates are so different, they're practically incomparable. If you really cannot accept the fundamental differences between these two practices, then you demonstrate a lack of critical thinking ability. This is not something to be proud of, son. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:13:35 PM EDT
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Today CNN says "200 million women and girls live with female genital mutilation, says U.N." http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/06/health/200-million-with-fgm/index.html Yet not a single word is said about boys getting mutilated, a common practice still in USA, Islamic and Jewish cultures. WTF is up with the double standard? If cutting off an important part of a babys dick doesnt already sound horrible wrong lets just put it this way. Its as unconstitutional as hell to ban female mutilation, yet allow male mutilation. Men and women are supposed to enjoy the same human rights. Anyway, just noticed that nice double standard CNN has. If you watch the video on the link, you'll see its the exact same thing done to boys during circumcision, everything from the restrains, to cutting, bleeding, risk of infection, risk of death, loss of sensitivity, etc. FerFAL It is quite entertaining to see ARFCOM ignorance. Next thing OP will be ranting about is the millions of women he demands getting breast reductions. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:14:28 PM EDT
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I find it extremely outrageous that so many BUT MAH FREEDOMS types here in 'MURICA are all about preserving individual rights, except for when it comes to surgically removing a body part of a minor which is, by virtue of being a minor, completely unable to provide informed consent to this life-long permanant body modification. It is grotesque in the extreme. That child's body is NOT your body, and you have NO right whatsoever to remove parts that you find a tad displeasing to the eye. Most of the supposed "health benefits" of circumcisions are easily duplicated by some damn soap and water. Somehow parents have no problem washing their daughter's bits, but can't be bothered to do the same for their sons. Most arguments for circumcision eventually fall back to some version of "it's all most girls have ever seen" or "it's what my dad did to me", which are the EXACT same reasons given for FGM in tribes where it has no religious connection. The fact that your dad mutilated you gives you no more right to mutilate your son than your dad molesting you gives you right to molest your son.
In fact, while the mental trauma is nothing to dismiss, molestation may entail no physical damage at all, and sometimes the kid doesn't even remember it. Recovering to my full physical self from the mutilation my parents put me through will take several years, there will be LOTS of discomfort as I attach a mechanical device to my dick, and I STILL won't have 100% recovery because some of the foreskin just can't be grown by stretching skin. For those interested in recovering themselves, this is the device I'm using. NSFW Site! Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:16:27 PM EDT
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In this thread we have idiots who believe they are right and everyone else must be wrong and they have to force themselves into others lives or pass a law or some other bullshit. How about everyone just shut the fuck up and mind their own business.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:19:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread we have idiots who believe they are right and everyone else must be wrong and they have to force themselves into others lives or pass a law or some other bullshit. How about everyone just shut the fuck up and mind their own business. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:22:28 PM EDT
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Its prefectly analogous. Foreskin is actually bigger than a clitoral hood. In some cultures they only make a couple cuts on the hood without even removing it fulyl, which they to to the amptuated foreskin. The video clip mentions the practice so as to avoid girls from having sex early. Male genital mutilation was popularised in America among non religious by John Harvey Kellogg with the objective of "Masturbation prevention". This sad motherfuker didnt want babies touching their dicks and wanted to make it hard for teens to masturbate. Having no foreskin makes it impossible for a guy to masturbate unless he has some kind of lubricant, which is pretty sad. Theres so many similarities that its hard not to see them. Anyway, hard to believe sane people must be told this but in case anyone is still thinking about it: DO NOT cut off part of your kids dick. Every excuse in favor of this insanitity is pure BS, everything from "it better that way" to the " it prevents STD" down to "it looks nicer" or "it gets infected". Not a single logical reason to do this to a baby. Its as logical as cutting off your upper lip or finger. FerFAL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize that these things aren't the same right? For it to be analogous circumcision would have to be the complete removing of the head of the penis. Its prefectly analogous. Foreskin is actually bigger than a clitoral hood. In some cultures they only make a couple cuts on the hood without even removing it fulyl, which they to to the amptuated foreskin. The video clip mentions the practice so as to avoid girls from having sex early. Male genital mutilation was popularised in America among non religious by John Harvey Kellogg with the objective of "Masturbation prevention". This sad motherfuker didnt want babies touching their dicks and wanted to make it hard for teens to masturbate. Having no foreskin makes it impossible for a guy to masturbate unless he has some kind of lubricant, which is pretty sad. Theres so many similarities that its hard not to see them. Anyway, hard to believe sane people must be told this but in case anyone is still thinking about it: DO NOT cut off part of your kids dick. Every excuse in favor of this insanitity is pure BS, everything from "it better that way" to the " it prevents STD" down to "it looks nicer" or "it gets infected". Not a single logical reason to do this to a baby. Its as logical as cutting off your upper lip or finger. FerFAL I don't know anyone that's circumcised that had issues with jerking off... |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:25:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:26:56 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Somehow I doubt there's a health benefit to having a woman's clitoris removed. Many societies, especially Muslim, intentionally mutilate a young woman's clitoris so she can not have an orgasm or is incapable of enjoying sex even in the slightest. Why do they do this? For one simple reason. If it is done, the male does not have to worry about the female enjoying herself during sex .....because she can't. The sex act therefore becomes all about the guy....he can do what ever he wants and not have to worry about her. Also the fear of the woman going elsewhere for enjoyment is also eliminated because she can't enjoy sex with someone else either. The OP's first post shows his ignorance about female mutilation. When he realized he fucked up, he tried to turn the thread into a "its all about male circumcision" thread. To link female mutilation with male circumcision is absurd. Anyone performing the act on a female or requiring that it be done should have all of his dick cut off. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:28:03 PM EDT
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American boys are getting their dicks cut off? Or just useless skin removed? My guess is you do not understand what they did to those 200,000,000 girls. bit o' difference between cutting off a foreskin and cutting off a labia, and a clitoris. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:30:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What in the actually fuck is going on in this thread. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:31:01 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it extremely outrageous that so many BUT MAH FREEDOMS types here in 'MURICA are all about preserving individual rights, except for when it comes to surgically removing a body part of a.... I called my dad after reading this post and thanked him for saving me from having a dick that looks like an anteater. It works just fine, btw. Thank you for your interest, now piss off. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:31:11 PM EDT
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I find it extremely outrageous that so many BUT MAH FREEDOMS types here in 'MURICA are all about preserving individual rights, except for when it comes to surgically removing a body part of a minor which is, by virtue of being a minor, completely unable to provide informed consent to this life-long permanant body modification. It is grotesque in the extreme. That child's body is NOT your body, and you have NO right whatsoever to remove parts that you find a tad displeasing to the eye. Most of the supposed "health benefits" of circumcisions are easily duplicated by some damn soap and water. Somehow parents have no problem washing their daughter's bits, but can't be bothered to do the same for their sons. Most arguments for circumcision eventually fall back to some version of "it's all most girls have ever seen" or "it's what my dad did to me", which are the EXACT same reasons given for FGM in tribes where it has no religious connection. The fact that your dad mutilated you gives you no more right to mutilate your son than your dad molesting you gives you right to molest your son. In fact, while the mental trauma is nothing to dismiss, molestation may entail no physical damage at all, and sometimes the kid doesn't even remember it. Recovering to my full physical self from the mutilation my parents put me through will take several years, there will be LOTS of discomfort as I attach a mechanical device to my dick, and I STILL won't have 100% recovery because some of the foreskin just can't be grown by stretching skin. For those interested in recovering themselves, this is the device I'm using. NSFW Site! Click To View Spoiler Lol why the fuck would you try and regain a foreskin. It will never be anything like an unxut dick |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:31:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Who gives a flying fuck one way or the other?
If there are actually guys sitting around lamenting the loss of a vestigial organ they lost when they were 2 days old, they have way too much free time on their hands. Pick up a couple extra shifts or find a new hobby. If no one had told you that you at one point had foreskin, you wouldn't even know it was missing. People really need to stop inventing shit to be outraged about. And no, I will probably not circumsise my yet to be conceived son. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:32:51 PM EDT
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Type I is subdivided into Ia, removal of the clitoral hood (rarely performed alone),[n 7] and the more common Ib (clitoridectomy), the complete or partial removal of the clitoral glans and clitoral hood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation What we call "male circumcision" is completely analogous to Type Ia female genital mutilation. Only one of these procedures is legal in the United States though... More refined and re-labeled forms are quite legal when preformed by the medical establishment. There are even insurance billing codes. In 1996 it became illegal under Title 18 of the United States Code, § 116, to perform FGM on minors for non-medical reasons,[234] and the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013 prohibited transporting a minor out of the country for the purpose of FGM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation#Europe_and_the_United_States I am quite familiar with the legislation in this field, I've worked as a research assistant for professors that were researching some odd stuff I've also done some volunteer work in the developing world where I was exposed to persons who had been subjected to FGM. I was also exposed on other occasions during extracurricular activities while backpacking (women of many nationalities go treking in Nepal
My point was that modification to the clitorial hood is occasionally done in the west for medical reasons on adult women and or as part of a labiaplasty for medical / cosmetic reasons on adult women. There are of course significant ethical and functional differences between consenting patients under clinical conditions and the cutting of non-consenting minors by non-medically trained persons. Your point that only one of these procedures is legal when preformed on non-consenting minor males is quite valid. I should have been more clear in my first post. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:34:59 PM EDT
[#45]
I got the snip as a baby and grew up not missing it, I probably cried like a motherfucker when it happened, but I don't remember that either. Polling the dozens of women who have seen and enjoyes my dick, they all seemed to like it and come back for additional portions.
My one friend with the uncircumcized junk has mentioned that girls are usually weirded out and it's something he had to bring up beforehand and as a young buck was self conscious about. As long as the majority in the USA have the circumcision done sjortly after birth, any son of mine will also be getting the snip. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:35:37 PM EDT
[#46]
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OP: With all the chopped-off foreskins in the US, guess how few of said guys are NOT chasing pussy because it feels good. That's right, virtually ALL men who have their foreskin removed still enjoy sex and have orgasms. I agree that there is no point in removing the foreskin. But FGM removes the clitoris, the inner and outer labia, and sometimes even a part of the vagina itself. The resultant gaping wound is then sewn shut, making it a twenty minute ordeal just to take a piss, because you have to sit there and go drip... drip... drip. Sex is not only not pleasurable, but painful, something which will never change for a woman who has suffered FGM. That's right. Sex is still pleasurable for circumcised men, whereas it is a painful, completely unpleasant ordeal for victims of FGM. Further, when males are circumcised as babies, they don't remember the pain or the procedure. More and more doctors are doing this procedure with pain meds, because doing the procedure without pain meds is cruel. But FGM is usually performed when the girl is around 3 - 5, more than old enough to remember the pain of the procedure. Plus, the procedure takes off a LOT more tissue that is a LOT more sensitive than the foreskin, making it more painful than circumcision to begin with. Because the instruments used to mutilate young girls' vaginas in those third world shitholes are typically rusted razor blades (not cleaned from their last procedure, yay) or similar, quite a lot of the victims get massive infections. Rates of infection and death from FGM are WAY higher than those of circumcision performed in a hospital. The rates are so different, they're practically incomparable. If you really cannot accept the fundamental differences between these two practices, then you demonstrate a lack of critical thinking ability. This is not something to be proud of, son. I think you and I are making the mistake of taking parts of this thread seriously. 
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:38:33 PM EDT
[#47]
I think the science is still undecided on the fact that penile circumcision in freshly born males is any more traumatic than any other event that a baby goes through. Childhood in general is a fairly traumatic event all by itself.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:41:05 PM EDT
[#48]
So.... If you are sooo much more sensitive with foreskin, how much do you have to think about baseball in order to do the job right proper?
Serious question. I mean using logic, if I was 10x as sensitive I think premature ejaculation would be an issue. I have no idea, just speculating. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:41:47 PM EDT
[#49]
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I find it extremely outrageous that so many BUT MAH FREEDOMS types here in 'MURICA are all about preserving individual rights, except for when it comes to surgically removing a body part of a minor which is, by virtue of being a minor, completely unable to provide informed consent to this life-long permanant body modification. It is grotesque in the extreme. That child's body is NOT your body, and you have NO right whatsoever to remove parts that you find a tad displeasing to the eye. Most of the supposed "health benefits" of circumcisions are easily duplicated by some damn soap and water. Somehow parents have no problem washing their daughter's bits, but can't be bothered to do the same for their sons. Most arguments for circumcision eventually fall back to some version of "it's all most girls have ever seen" or "it's what my dad did to me", which are the EXACT same reasons given for FGM in tribes where it has no religious connection. The fact that your dad mutilated you gives you no more right to mutilate your son than your dad molesting you gives you right to molest your son. In fact, while the mental trauma is nothing to dismiss, molestation may entail no physical damage at all, and sometimes the kid doesn't even remember it. Recovering to my full physical self from the mutilation my parents put me through will take several years, there will be LOTS of discomfort as I attach a mechanical device to my dick, and I STILL won't have 100% recovery because some of the foreskin just can't be grown by stretching skin. For those interested in recovering themselves, this is the device I'm using. NSFW Site! Click To View Spoiler So if you're like most circumcised men you had this done when you were a new born? And you got mental trauma from this? Give me a fucking break. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:42:54 PM EDT
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GD is fascinated with dicks and chicks with dicks.
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