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I noticed that the current bozo in office sure tapped dance around alot of the questions. I thought there were a number of them he didn't even answer. The mod handled those for him. It was so obvious as to be painful to watch. What a sham. I'd say a majority of the audience was in the bag for Zero as well. |
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I'd call it a draw. And strategically, that's all Romney needed. The fact is that Obama was going into the debate waaaaay behind in some states, and far enough behind in battleground states to essentially be losing the election TODAY. He needed to knock it out of the park on style, facts and policies just to pull even with Romney...and he didn't even come close. Romney didn't have to alpha-dog, "pee on Obama to show his dominance" win last night. He just had to not lose. Romney stayed consistent with his message, his demeanor, his professionalism and his facts. Obama showed himself as wildly inconsistent in demeanor and with his previous performance (which will raise doubts in the minds of undecideds as to his reliability), unable to defend himself against his own record, petulant and obnoxious when corrected, and relied on the moderator to avoid answering questions. I'd say tactically I'd agree with you, but strategically, this was Christmas in October for the Romney campaign. Again. |
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I'd call it a draw. And strategically, that's all Romney needed. The fact is that Obama was going into the debate waaaaay behind in some states, and far enough behind in battleground states to essentially be losing the election TODAY. He needed to knock it out of the park on style, facts and policies just to pull even with Romney...and he didn't even come close. Romney didn't have to alpha-dog, "pee on Obama to show his dominance" win last night. He just had to not lose. Romney stayed consistent with his message, his demeanor, his professionalism and his facts. Obama showed himself as wildly inconsistent in demeanor and with his previous performance (which will raise doubts in the minds of undecideds as to his reliability), unable to defend himself against his own record, petulant and obnoxious when corrected, and relied on the moderator to avoid answering questions. I'd say tactically I'd agree with you, but strategically, this was Christmas in October for the Romney campaign. Again. I agree with you, and watching the Luntz(sp?) focus group afterwards, verified what we saw. It was a win for team Rmoney. |
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I'd call it a draw. And strategically, that's all Romney needed. The fact is that Obama was going into the debate waaaaay behind in some states, and far enough behind in battleground states to essentially be losing the election TODAY. He needed to knock it out of the park on style, facts and policies just to pull even with Romney...and he didn't even come close. Romney didn't have to alpha-dog, "pee on Obama to show his dominance" win last night. He just had to not lose. Romney stayed consistent with his message, his demeanor, his professionalism and his facts. Obama showed himself as wildly inconsistent in demeanor and with his previous performance (which will raise doubts in the minds of undecideds as to his reliability), unable to defend himself against his own record, petulant and obnoxious when corrected, and relied on the moderator to avoid answering questions. I'd say tactically I'd agree with you, but strategically, this was Christmas in October for the Romney campaign. Again. I agree with you, and watching the Luntz(sp?) focus group afterwards, verified what we saw. It was a win for team Rmoney. This morning Drudge is linking video of MSNBC's focus group leaning to Romney, too: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/msnbcs-undecided-voter-panel-swayed-romney_654728.html |
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So does anybody have a break down of total time and interuptions like the VP debate, or am i just missing it? Obama got over 3 minutes more speaking time. He interrupted Romney during 6 different segments, some 10 total times. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Just sent Mitt another $25. <––––Upgraded to Endowment member this year. Sent NRA ILA $25. Obama has laid it out. If he wins he will try to ban guns. No dobut about it. Just donated online to MR, and sent a check to NRA-ILA (with "FBHO" written in the memo section) <––-NRA Life Member since July 2008, thanks to Bama-Shooter's generous sponsorship. <––––Upgraded to Benefactor member in 2010. http://i.imgur.com/o38Eg.jpg <–––– Endowment Benefactor Life Member, wife and three kids are all basic Life Members as well, regularly donate to both ILA and the Foundation (and other causes, of course). <–––– Just sent Romney another check even though he was far from my first choice... IMHO we have to get rid of BHO no matter what. ETA: Fixed, per below. |
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Is it just me or is reforming our out of control entitlements basically being ignored in these debates? Romney sure seems to be saying he is going to give even more to the 47 percent rather than reducing the entitlements.
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Is it just me or is reforming our out of control entitlements basically being ignored in these debates? Romney sure seems to be saying he is going to give even more to the 47 percent rather than reducing the entitlements. Hopefully I'm reading it wrong or he's just avoiding the subject while in front of the undecided idiots. I can't imagine he was so successful in business without understanding such basic math. I don't think Romney is going to show his cards on that, but if he can get a decent majority in both houses of Congress, he should be able to start by putting back the work requirement in order to keep receiving public assistance, as well as immediately stopping the ObamaPhone program (if for no other reason than as a hearty "Fuck You" to BHO and the mongrels that were given the phones). Where it goes from there, again, would all depend on if he has a strong majority in Congress. |
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http://ace.mu.nu/archives/333937.php CROWLEY: I am joined by Obama campaign senior adviser David Axelrod. I want to pick up on what John McCain and I were talking about. There's a back and forth now about why didn't this administration –– why did it take them until Friday after a September 11th attack in Libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that there was terrorists involved. John McCain said it doesn't pass the smell test, or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. Your reaction?
AXELROD: Well, first of all, Candy, as you know, the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened. But when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration, then you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes. This was –– this is being thoroughly investigated. CROWLEY: But first it was, like, not planned. AXELROD: We need to bring to justice–– CROWLEY: First, they said it was not planned, it was part of this tape. All that stuff. AXELROD: As the director of national intelligence said on Friday, that was the original information that that was given to us. What we don't need is a president or an administration that shoots first and asks questions later. CROWLEY: But isn't that what happened? AXELROD: And, you know, Governor Romney leaped out on this Libya issue on the first day, and was terribly mistaken about what he said. That is not what you want in a president of the United States. And as for Senator McCain, for whom I have great respect, he has disapproved of our approach to Libya from the beginning, including the strategy that brought Gadhafi to justice. CROWLEY: But this has to do not with the approach to Libya but with the murder of four Americans in Libya. And didn't the administration shoot first? Didn't they come out and say, listen, as far as we can tell, this wasn't preplanned, this was just a part of This interview occurred on September 30, 2012. |
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So does anybody have a break down of total time and interuptions like the VP debate, or am i just missing it? Obama got over 3 minutes more speaking time. He interrupted Romney during 6 different segments, some 10 total times. Romney was interrupted by the moderator about a dozen times when "moderation" wasn't needed. Romney interrupted Obama ONE time, with a single sentence. Democrats: The rude party, see top of sig line. |
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I was amazed Romney actually brought up 0's Chinese investments. Too bad he got shouted over so much that it was hard to hear everything but it obviously got under 0's skin.
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romney: bring rates down for everyone. simplify the tax code. middle class income has come down last 4 years wwhile all prices are up limit deductions and exemptions for those in the top brakets. i wont have the top 5% paying less than they are now. every middle income won't pay tax on interest dividends or capitol gains. balanced budget I don't like the part in red, but on the whole that plan beats the hell out of anything Obama can or will bring to the table. How some here still think that Obama and Romney are the same simply baffles me. It's "Reganomics", poor people and middle class people do not hire large numbers of full time employees. Trickle down economics, whatever you'd like to call it. The effects of this aren't immediate. The actual effects of Trickle Down Economics didn't really start showing until Clinton was in office, which he took credit for, rather than admitting Regan had something right. Somebody with 20 Million paying 20% tax is still funding far more of the government than a middle class person paying 30%. Trying to tax the person with 20 mil with more taxes will only encourage them to move to Costa Rica with their money. This is also known as "Killing the goose that lays golden eggs". Most major policies enacted by presidents usually do not show their true impact for a decade or so. ObamaCare is a special case in which the raping began within a few short months. ––ETA: The Biggest thing I caught from the debate was this: Romney wants people to work for a living. Obama wants the government to create programs/jobs for everybody. He laughed when Romney said "The government doesn't create jobs", that tells you all you need to know right there. Obama and progressives assume they can just tax the "rich" more to pay for funding those who aren't. I hope Romney brings this up in the last debate. |
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AXELROD: Well, first of all, Candy, as you know, the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened. But when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration, then you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes. This was –– this is being thoroughly investigated. CROWLEY: But first it was, like, not planned. AXELROD: We need to bring to justice–– CROWLEY: First, they said it was not planned, it was part of this tape. All that stuff. AXELROD: As the director of national intelligence said on Friday, that was the original information that that was given to us. What we don't need is a president or an administration that shoots first and asks questions later. CROWLEY: But isn't that what happened? AXELROD: And, you know, Governor Romney leaped out on this Libya issue on the first day, and was terribly mistaken about what he said. That is not what you want in a president of the United States. And as for Senator McCain, for whom I have great respect, he has disapproved of our approach to Libya from the beginning, including the strategy that brought Gadhafi to justice. CROWLEY: But this has to do not with the approach to Libya but with the murder of four Americans in Libya. And didn't the administration shoot first? Didn't they come out and say, listen, as far as we can tell, this wasn't preplanned, this was just a part of This interview occurred on September 30, 2012. |
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I was amazed Romney actually brought up 0's Chinese investments. Too bad he got shouted over so much that it was hard to hear everything but it obviously got under 0's skin. That was a huge hitter, especially since Obama kept saying 'Yeah, yeah, all right'. Nobody can bring up Romney's foreign investments anymore, without the right being able to show Obama admitting that he does it too. |
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I just looked through the transcript. Romney interrupted Obama once... 7 words. Obama interrupted Romney multiple times, during 6 different time-segments that belonged to Romney. What a joke, and libs want to act like Romney was rude. Worse http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/17/Crowley-interrupts-28-times-Romney I love that photo-shop above of Candy-momma and O..... |
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Missed the first half of the debate. I hear thats the part where Mitt owned.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just sent Mitt another $25. <––––Upgraded to Endowment member this year. Sent NRA ILA $25. Obama has laid it out. If he wins he will try to ban guns. No dobut about it. Just donated online to MR, and sent a check to NRA-ILA (with "FBHO" written in the memo section) <––-NRA Life Member since July 2008, thanks to Bama-Shooter's generous sponsorship. <––––Upgraded to Benefactor member in 2010. http://i.imgur.com/o38Eg.jpg <–––– Endowment Life Member, wife and three kids are all LMs as well, regularly donate to both ILA and the Foundation. <–––– Just sent Romney another check even though he was far from my first choice... IMHO we have to get rid of BHO no matter what. Your icon shows you as a benefactor. Did you send the NRA $3,000 dollars and then forgot about it? I thought Endowment was the highest level... is it Benefactor? I went through all the steps one by one and "upped" to the last one just last year, pretty sure I sent in a scan of my card for the "eagle icon upgrade" here. Now I'll have to check. ETA: D'oh! I looked it up and you are right, Benefactor is the top one and is correct... I was unintentionally short-changing myself. I'll correct it above... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Candy Crowley needs to lose her job. 3:10 extra time to Obama, along side an inappropriate, single-sided fact-check. Worst moderation yet. Now I know what it must have been like to live in the Soviet Union. The fix was in before this debate started. She was anything, but impartial. An impartial moderator does not step in to defend the President with a distortion of the facts. She said the obama called it a terrorist attack from the rose garden. He did everything but specifically call this incident a terrorist attack. "Act of terror" not equal to terrorist act. "terrorism" is the most bullshit word there is. It's a faux crime. Used to incite and patronize. EVERYTHING can fall under the definition. Let's call the shit for what it really is. Murder. Pure and simple and we don't have to create 632 new agencies dedicated to murder when we already got some. Just a convenient way to slam war, funding, invasion of privacy, and new laws down our throats under the guise of protection and patriotism. Hell, they're so conceited as to give it the acronym of USAPATRIOT Act to one of 'em. Jesus, that's such an insult to the American people. Thats absolutely retarded. The basic definition of terrorism is.... Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians). No, not everything can fall under the definition, and no, its not a faux word or crime used to incite and patronize. Only someone without an education and just thinks (in a stupid Obama voice) "well, if you cause terror on someone, its terrorism" Good lord, get an education. |
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NAILED IT Someone count how many times Obama said 'Candy?' while Mitt was talking. |
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AXELROD: Well, first of all, Candy, as you know, the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened. But when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration, then you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes. This was –– this is being thoroughly investigated. CROWLEY: But first it was, like, not planned. AXELROD: We need to bring to justice–– CROWLEY: First, they said it was not planned, it was part of this tape. All that stuff. AXELROD: As the director of national intelligence said on Friday, that was the original information that that was given to us. What we don't need is a president or an administration that shoots first and asks questions later. CROWLEY: But isn't that what happened? AXELROD: And, you know, Governor Romney leaped out on this Libya issue on the first day, and was terribly mistaken about what he said. That is not what you want in a president of the United States. And as for Senator McCain, for whom I have great respect, he has disapproved of our approach to Libya from the beginning, including the strategy that brought Gadhafi to justice. CROWLEY: But this has to do not with the approach to Libya but with the murder of four Americans in Libya. And didn't the administration shoot first? Didn't they come out and say, listen, as far as we can tell, this wasn't preplanned, this was just a part of This interview occurred on September 30, 2012. http://imageshack.us/a/img87/2817/candysweddingday.jpg |
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Since there is a lot of talk in here about Obama saying he wants the AWB again, here is a link to where his web site has said that all along.
It's under Crime and Law Enforcement. http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy_agenda/ You can check the wayback machine and see this has been their policy since 2008. |
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Quoted: Since there is a lot of talk in here about Obama saying he wants the AWB again, here is a link to where his web site has said that all along. It's under Crime and Law Enforcement. http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy_agenda/ You can check the wayback machine and see this has been their policy since 2008. It's not news to most of us here. Still good that he came out and said it in a debate, instead of "oh a staffer wrote that" or "just because that's a platform doesn't mean they're gonna do it" now we have the fucker looking at the camera and saying "I'd like to renew the AWB". Get Fucked, BHO. |
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That pretty much sums it up. The fat and ugly lesbian, protecting the weak and confused POTUS. What a spectacle for the American public to see. And I'm sure it wasn't lost on most of the "thinking" (read, non-libtards) who watched Barry's toast. His lies and BS are no longer being bought by a large majority of the American public (I'm amazed anyone bought it the first time around) 2012 will have a much different outcome |
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