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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:19:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:21:32 PM EDT
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A little self reflection would go a long way for some arfcommers.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:21:41 PM EDT
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I just want to know why every single day you bring up Cruz. You act as if only Cruz hadn't existed, we would all be lining up to support Trump. Trump's opposition on this site, is rooted in his lack of conservative principles, his extensive support of liberal positions and politicians and his willingness to abandon his stated positions. You want to believe that this somehow has everything to do with Cruz I seriously dont understand this Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems all the NeverTrumpers are from Texas.....must be that Cruz butthurt. What will they think when Hillary imports so many Syrians, and relocates so many illegals that that state turns forever blue? And they can bitch and moan about Trump for the next 50 years...... There you go mentioning Cruz again. You do know that Trump was for importing Syrians (before he was against it, of course)..... and is illegal immigration the conversation you want to be having right now? i mean Trump did just rip off Obama's immigration plan from the White House webite I just want to know why every single day you bring up Cruz. You act as if only Cruz hadn't existed, we would all be lining up to support Trump. Trump's opposition on this site, is rooted in his lack of conservative principles, his extensive support of liberal positions and politicians and his willingness to abandon his stated positions. You want to believe that this somehow has everything to do with Cruz I seriously dont understand this It's pretty simple. If you were a Trump supporter, would you rather try to actually defend Trump or just yammer about Cruz? |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:22:01 PM EDT
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It's too late folks. Repub leadership failed; the folks said fuck you and nominated Trump.
Two choices: Russian Roulette with two chambered rounds; Russian Roulette with ALL chambers loaded. Pick now. Choose carefully. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:34:56 PM EDT
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Seems all the NeverTrumpers are from Texas.....must be that Cruz butthurt. What will they think when Hillary imports so many Syrians, and relocates so many illegals that that state turns forever blue? And they can bitch and moan about Trump for the next 50 years...... There you go mentioning Cruz again. You do know that Trump was for importing Syrians (before he was against it, of course)..... and is illegal immigration the conversation you want to be having right now? i mean Trump did just rip off Obama's immigration plan from the White House webite Trump's candidacy is turning Texas blue. Derpppppppppppppppppp Contrary to popular retarded beliefs, Texas is as red as ever. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:38:49 PM EDT
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I initially had high hopes for the Trump but he turned out to be the real liar. I bet he out does Hillary in the debate and moves left of her positions mark my words I am calling it now. We tried to tell you, but nooooo! Go cry in the corner and talk about how the Beck Priesthood would have risen had it had enough Viagra and fasted more. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:40:15 PM EDT
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Go cry in the corner and talk about how the Beck Priesthood would have risen had it had enough Viagra and fasted more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I initially had high hopes for the Trump but he turned out to be the real liar. I bet he out does Hillary in the debate and moves left of her positions mark my words I am calling it now. We tried to tell you, but nooooo! Go cry in the corner and talk about how the Beck Priesthood would have risen had it had enough Viagra and fasted more. Lets starve some children for America.. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:40:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go cry in the corner and talk about how the Beck Priesthood would have risen had it had enough Viagra and fasted more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I initially had high hopes for the Trump but he turned out to be the real liar. I bet he out does Hillary in the debate and moves left of her positions mark my words I am calling it now. We tried to tell you, but nooooo! Go cry in the corner and talk about how the Beck Priesthood would have risen had it had enough Viagra and fasted more. This is one who really wouldnt listen Tell us again how easy it would be for Trump to deport all those illegals. Better yet, tell him.  |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:47:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's pretty simple. If you were a Trump supporter, would you rather try to actually defend Trump or just yammer about Cruz? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seems all the NeverTrumpers are from Texas.....must be that Cruz butthurt. What will they think when Hillary imports so many Syrians, and relocates so many illegals that that state turns forever blue? And they can bitch and moan about Trump for the next 50 years...... There you go mentioning Cruz again. You do know that Trump was for importing Syrians (before he was against it, of course)..... and is illegal immigration the conversation you want to be having right now? i mean Trump did just rip off Obama's immigration plan from the White House webite I just want to know why every single day you bring up Cruz. You act as if only Cruz hadn't existed, we would all be lining up to support Trump. Trump's opposition on this site, is rooted in his lack of conservative principles, his extensive support of liberal positions and politicians and his willingness to abandon his stated positions. You want to believe that this somehow has everything to do with Cruz I seriously dont understand this It's pretty simple. If you were a Trump supporter, would you rather try to actually defend Trump or just yammer about Cruz? |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:51:17 PM EDT
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It's pretty simple. If you were a Trump supporter, would you rather try to actually defend Trump or just yammer about Cruz? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems all the NeverTrumpers are from Texas.....must be that Cruz butthurt. What will they think when Hillary imports so many Syrians, and relocates so many illegals that that state turns forever blue? And they can bitch and moan about Trump for the next 50 years...... There you go mentioning Cruz again. You do know that Trump was for importing Syrians (before he was against it, of course)..... and is illegal immigration the conversation you want to be having right now? i mean Trump did just rip off Obama's immigration plan from the White House webite I just want to know why every single day you bring up Cruz. You act as if only Cruz hadn't existed, we would all be lining up to support Trump. Trump's opposition on this site, is rooted in his lack of conservative principles, his extensive support of liberal positions and politicians and his willingness to abandon his stated positions. You want to believe that this somehow has everything to do with Cruz I seriously dont understand this It's pretty simple. If you were a Trump supporter, would you rather try to actually defend Trump or just yammer about Cruz? Cobalty, has Cruz on the brain. 
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:10:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cobalty, has Cruz on the brain. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There you go mentioning Cruz again. You do know that Trump was for importing Syrians (before he was against it, of course)..... and is illegal immigration the conversation you want to be having right now? i mean Trump did just rip off Obama's immigration plan from the White House webite I just want to know why every single day you bring up Cruz. You act as if only Cruz hadn't existed, we would all be lining up to support Trump. Trump's opposition on this site, is rooted in his lack of conservative principles, his extensive support of liberal positions and politicians and his willingness to abandon his stated positions. You want to believe that this somehow has everything to do with Cruz I seriously dont understand this It's pretty simple. If you were a Trump supporter, would you rather try to actually defend Trump or just yammer about Cruz? Cobalty, has Cruz on the brain. 
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:26:31 PM EDT
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Why do I have to defend Trump? Am I his fuckin lawyer? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's pretty simple. If you were a Trump supporter, would you rather try to actually defend Trump or just yammer about Cruz? I don't know, but my impression is you am one of his most dependable fucking attack dogs when anyone says something negative about him. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:29:49 PM EDT
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How do you know he hasn't already done that....to you....
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Just relax. Remember "the Art of the Deal"? Let him negotiate and attract some more votes. Let's get him elected.....then we can worry about what actually happens. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump who called Jeb Bush weak on immigration is now adopting a plan weaker than Jebs. Just relax. Remember "the Art of the Deal"? Let him negotiate and attract some more votes. Let's get him elected.....then we can worry about what actually happens. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:30:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know, but my impression is you am one of his most dependable fucking attack dogs when anyone says something negative about him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's pretty simple. If you were a Trump supporter, would you rather try to actually defend Trump or just yammer about Cruz? I don't know, but my impression is you am one of his most dependable fucking attack dogs when anyone says something negative about him.  |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:35:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's too late folks. Repub leadership failed; the folks said fuck you and nominated Trump. Two choices: Russian Roulette with two chambered rounds; Russian Roulette with ALL chambers loaded. Pick now. Choose carefully. That's interesting The folks said "Fuck you" and nominated Trump Shortly after, Trump said "Fuck you" to the folks |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:38:34 PM EDT
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That's interesting The folks said "Fuck you" and nominated Trump Shortly after, Trump said "Fuck you" to the folks Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's too late folks. Repub leadership failed; the folks said fuck you and nominated Trump. Two choices: Russian Roulette with two chambered rounds; Russian Roulette with ALL chambers loaded. Pick now. Choose carefully. That's interesting The folks said "Fuck you" and nominated Trump Shortly after, Trump said "Fuck you" to the folks Interesting commentary on current events ole chap. I can always count on you to say the same retarded things in every retarded thread. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:40:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting commentary on current events ole chap. I can always count on you to say the same retarded things in every retarded thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's too late folks. Repub leadership failed; the folks said fuck you and nominated Trump. Two choices: Russian Roulette with two chambered rounds; Russian Roulette with ALL chambers loaded. Pick now. Choose carefully. That's interesting The folks said "Fuck you" and nominated Trump Shortly after, Trump said "Fuck you" to the folks Interesting commentary on current events ole chap. I can always count on you to say the same retarded things in every retarded thread. Thank you kindly |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:42:12 PM EDT
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Let's break out Romney. He seems better and better every day Maybe I'll write him in. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:42:27 PM EDT
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It's too late folks. Repub leadership failed; the folks said fuck you and nominated Trump. Two choices: Russian Roulette with two chambered rounds; Russian Roulette with ALL chambers loaded. Pick now. Choose carefully. That's interesting The folks said "Fuck you" and nominated Trump Shortly after, Trump said "Fuck you" to the folks Interesting commentary on current events ole chap. I can always count on you to say the same retarded things in every retarded thread. Thank you kindly You are moooost welcome good sir. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:45:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:53:39 PM EDT
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Derpppppppppppppppppp Contrary to popular retarded beliefs, Texas is as red as ever. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems all the NeverTrumpers are from Texas.....must be that Cruz butthurt. What will they think when Hillary imports so many Syrians, and relocates so many illegals that that state turns forever blue? And they can bitch and moan about Trump for the next 50 years...... There you go mentioning Cruz again. You do know that Trump was for importing Syrians (before he was against it, of course)..... and is illegal immigration the conversation you want to be having right now? i mean Trump did just rip off Obama's immigration plan from the White House webite Trump's candidacy is turning Texas blue. Derpppppppppppppppppp Contrary to popular retarded beliefs, Texas is as red as ever. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_clinton-5694.html Single digit lead RCP averages in Texas. Romney won Texas by 16 points.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:59:57 PM EDT
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What is your remedy? Or do you not even view illegals as a problem?  Hell yes illegals are a problem,and your ideas are great (I would also include no school for illegal kids,no welfare/foodstamps,no tax "refunds",etc...) But lets come back to reality-Do you,or anyone here,honestly believe any of those things will happen?? Even if Trump gets in and the Republicans take the House and Senate-do you really see any of that happening? Nope,we are screwed.About the best we can hope for is decent SCOTUS appointments and maybe a temporary reprieve from all the ever increasing shit.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 10:01:07 PM EDT
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ABH:
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Posted: 8/26/2016 10:04:14 PM EDT
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A little self reflection would go a long way for some arfcommers. Ha. Hahaha. Haaaaaaahhhhahaha. That'll never happen and you know it. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 10:06:53 PM EDT
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Trump supporters continue to be intellectual cowards, refusing to own up to any error in judgment. Learn from your mistakes for once, for fucking once, so in four years we get a better candidate than trump or establishment hacks like Jeb.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 10:26:55 PM EDT
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Trump supporters continue to be intellectual cowards, refusing to own up to any error in judgment. Learn from your mistakes for once, for fucking once, so in four years we get a better candidate than trump or establishment hacks like Jeb. lol,yeah right. Remember Romney?McCain?Which way is the country trending? I wouldn't get your hopes up for anything better 4 years from now.
AND,we will still be re-electing 90% of the same shitheads that have been screwing us over..............
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Posted: 8/26/2016 10:47:04 PM EDT
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It's pretty simple. If you were a Trump supporter, would you rather try to actually defend Trump or just yammer about Cruz? I don't know, but my impression is you am one of his most dependable fucking attack dogs when anyone says something negative about him. Thank you. It's always nice to have a face to go with a name and behavior. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 10:51:18 PM EDT
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Interesting commentary on current events ole chap. I can always count on you to say the same retarded things in every retarded thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's too late folks. Repub leadership failed; the folks said fuck you and nominated Trump. Two choices: Russian Roulette with two chambered rounds; Russian Roulette with ALL chambers loaded. Pick now. Choose carefully. That's interesting The folks said "Fuck you" and nominated Trump Shortly after, Trump said "Fuck you" to the folks Interesting commentary on current events ole chap. I can always count on you to say the same retarded things in every retarded thread. What do you think is retarded about that? Seems pretty accurate to me. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:02:38 PM EDT
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Why is anyone surprised by this? Trump was never going to get as tough on immigration as a lot of you guys want - he just said he would to get votes in the primaries.
If it should be perfectly obvious why too. Commercial real estate, golf courses, and hotels all need lots of cheap labor. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:50:35 PM EDT
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Lol he already has. His whole life. He's even written books and given numerous interviews throughout his life detailing his propensity for supporting AWB's, amnesty, and single payer healthcare. Lol you fucking douchebags are literally electing Nancy Pelosi because she told you that she suddenly changed her mind and is now a conservative. That's what a joke you guys are and why no one can take you seriously. You are the right's version of the low information voter, welfare queen, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pointless thread is, pointless. He could go full Hillary and you'd still vote for him. Lol he already has. His whole life. He's even written books and given numerous interviews throughout his life detailing his propensity for supporting AWB's, amnesty, and single payer healthcare. Lol you fucking douchebags are literally electing Nancy Pelosi because she told you that she suddenly changed her mind and is now a conservative. That's what a joke you guys are and why no one can take you seriously. You are the right's version of the low information voter, welfare queen, etc. Nice.  The members here who have taken all the alternatives under consideration and decided to vote for Trump are now fair game on this site... Interesting. 
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:03:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you think is retarded about that? Seems pretty accurate to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's too late folks. Repub leadership failed; the folks said fuck you and nominated Trump. Two choices: Russian Roulette with two chambered rounds; Russian Roulette with ALL chambers loaded. Pick now. Choose carefully. That's interesting The folks said "Fuck you" and nominated Trump Shortly after, Trump said "Fuck you" to the folks Interesting commentary on current events ole chap. I can always count on you to say the same retarded things in every retarded thread. What do you think is retarded about that? Seems pretty accurate to me. He wont answer....because he can't Its easier to just call those who are critical of Trump liars or retarded or Hillary supporters rather than address the actual issue |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:27:05 AM EDT
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Own it truptards told you so Gonna build that wall 50 feet tall and Mexico is going to pay for it. Yeah right motherfucker He hasn't backed away from building the wall. I will kiss your ASS on main street if he build that fucking wall from the gulf to the pacific. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:28:10 AM EDT
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................. Why do I have to defend Trump? Am I his fuckin lawyer? Why are you blasting the Nevertrumpers on this one? Trump backed off and arguably flip flopped on his original immigration stance he spouted off in the primaries. You, I and everyone knows he is a flip flopper. That's the way it is. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:46:05 AM EDT
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It's too late folks. Repub leadership failed; the folks said fuck you and nominated Trump. Two choices: Russian Roulette with two chambered rounds; Russian Roulette with ALL chambers loaded. Pick now. Choose carefully. That's interesting The folks said "Fuck you" and nominated Trump Shortly after, Trump said "Fuck you" to the folks Interesting commentary on current events ole chap. I can always count on you to say the same retarded things in every retarded thread. What do you think is retarded about that? Seems pretty accurate to me. He wont answer....because he can't Its easier to just call those who are critical of Trump liars or retarded or Hillary supporters rather than address the actual issue The "actual issue" in the one sentence, detailess, factually unsupported, turd toss of an Original Post? So every stupid ass comment by a never trumper or always Hillary needs to be given a thoughtful analysis or throughly comtradicted, and every turd they toss is a pearl to be treasured? Yeah, no. Its perfectly acceptale when one sees a steaming turd on the ground to simply point to it and warn others not to step in it. And the trump trashing crowd here on this firearms enthusiasts forum certain toss out plenty of steaming turds. 
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:51:36 AM EDT
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Washington (CNN)Donald Trump ruled out Thursday a pathway to legal status for undocumented immigrants in the United States, walking back comments he made earlier this week in which he appeared open to the idea. "There's no path to legalization unless they leave the country," Trump said after an event in Manchester, New Hampshire. "When they come back in, then they can start paying taxes, but there is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and then come back." Trump said that on his first day in office, he would authorize law enforcement to actively deport "bad dudes," such as those who have committed crimes, which he said numbered "probably millions." But he declined to flatly say whether he would round up other undocumented immigrants, stressing that once the initial deportations occur, "then we can talk." "There is a very good chance the answer could be yes," Trump said when asked if he would deport those who have lived here peacefully but without papers. "We're going to see what happens." https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform Seriously people, calm the fuck down. So back to touchback amnesty. Awesome.
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:53:23 AM EDT
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Good. I'm fine with them leaving and then coming in documented. I came to the U.S. legally and so should everyone else. 
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Washington (CNN)Donald Trump ruled out Thursday a pathway to legal status for undocumented immigrants in the United States, walking back comments he made earlier this week in which he appeared open to the idea. "There's no path to legalization unless they leave the country," Trump said after an event in Manchester, New Hampshire. "When they come back in, then they can start paying taxes, but there is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and then come back." Trump said that on his first day in office, he would authorize law enforcement to actively deport "bad dudes," such as those who have committed crimes, which he said numbered "probably millions." But he declined to flatly say whether he would round up other undocumented immigrants, stressing that once the initial deportations occur, "then we can talk." "There is a very good chance the answer could be yes," Trump said when asked if he would deport those who have lived here peacefully but without papers. "We're going to see what happens." https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform Seriously people, calm the fuck down. Good. I'm fine with them leaving and then coming in documented. I came to the U.S. legally and so should everyone else.
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:53:59 AM EDT
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The "actual issue" in the one sentence, detailess, factually unsupported, turd toss of an Original Post? So every stupid ass comment by a never trumper or always Hillary needs to be given a thoughtful analysis or throughly comtradicted, and every turd they toss is a pearl to be treasured? Yeah, no. Its perfectly acceptale when one sees a steaming turd on the ground to simply point to it and warn others not to step in it. And the trump trashing crowd here on this firearms enthusiasts forum certain toss out plenty of steaming turds.
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Posted: 8/27/2016 7:59:34 AM EDT
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NeverTrump....
In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky pays tribute to "the very first radical... who won his own kingdom — Lucifer." Alinsky believed that the people "are like happy sheep," who must first "be made unhappy," which will lead to passivity, then to discontent, and ultimately to "revolution." That incrementalism was taught at Antonio Gramsci's Frankfurt School. Rules for community organizers As Saul Alinsky laid it out, here are some traits of a good community organizer: 1 — Flexibility: Moving from method to method, argument to argument. Work like a guerilla, not a coordinated army. 2 — Confidence: Weak-willed people never win. Do not shy from a conflict. Besides, "power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." 3 — Experience: A good community organizer embraces Rousseau's "experiential learning" (Rousseau having been credited with inspiring the French Revolution). 4 — Curiosity and irreverence: Values and morals must be questioned. Nothing is sacred. That is "critical theory" at its most basic political form. 5 — A sense of humor: It is "almost impossible to defend against it." That is a characteristic the original Frankfurt School lacked. Its seriousness made it "boring." Besides, Alinsky concluded, "ridicule is man's most potent weapon." Basically, what we're talking about here is John Stewart vs. Noam Chomsky. 6 — "Keep the pressure on." (No! Really?) 7 — The mere fact that threats are usually more terrifying than the act itself would support the notion that one should "level threats whenever possible." 8 — Find the enemy's most cherished belief, then exploit it against your target. (Example: Gandhi exploiting British civility.) |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 8:08:16 AM EDT
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Your best play is to somehow get Trump elected; that will buy you time and stall the inevitable Republican collapse.
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Posted: 8/27/2016 8:09:25 AM EDT
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The. Purse swinging and hysteria are alwayz fascinating to watch but where is this plan?
Link? The always hillary crowd says trumpnever talks about specifics. Well. Is this the one time he did? Link to the plan please Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 8:21:11 AM EDT
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Trump who called Jeb Bush weak on immigration is now adopting a plan weaker than Jebs. It is now incumbent upon all who don't agree, to provide a thoughtful and concise but thoroughly factually supported and ironclad rebuttal of that one single factually bereft, and baseless sentence. "They won't answer because they can't". ~ Saul Alinsky's GD Disciples
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Posted: 8/27/2016 8:25:53 AM EDT
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This is the Original Post in its glorious entirety: It is now incumbent upon all who don't agree, to provide a thoughtful and concise but thoroughly factually supported and ironclad rebuttal of that one single factually bereft, and baseless sentence. "They won't answer because they can't". ~ Saul Alinsky's GD Disciples
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Trump who called Jeb Bush weak on immigration is now adopting a plan weaker than Jebs. It is now incumbent upon all who don't agree, to provide a thoughtful and concise but thoroughly factually supported and ironclad rebuttal of that one single factually bereft, and baseless sentence. "They won't answer because they can't". ~ Saul Alinsky's GD Disciples
http://www.dailywire.com/news/8657/whoops-trumps-new-plan-left-jeb-rubio-and-cruz-ben-shapiro [AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill]
By: Ben Shapiro August 25, 2016 Ann is honest about her immigration position, and naturally, she’s ticked. She should be. That’s particularly true given Trump’s comments on Fox News on Monday night, where he said, “What people don't know is that Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country. Bush, the same thing. Lots of people were brought out of the country with the existing laws. Well, I'm going to do the same thing." He added that there could “certainly” be a softening. Trump’s new immigration policy is now significantly to the left of Jeb! Bush’s, Little Marco Rubio’s, and Lyin’ Ted Cruz’s. Jeb Bush stated in November 2015, “What we need to do is allow people to earn legal status where they pay a fine, where they work, where they don't commit crimes, where they learn English, and over an extended period of time, they earn legal status. That's the path -- a proper path.” To which Trump responded, “The weakest person on this stage by far on illegal immigration is Jeb Bush.” But Jeb’s position incorporated more hoops than Trump’s, not merely the mythical back taxes. He also vowed to withhold federal law enforcement funds from sanctuary cities, deporting immigrants who overstayed their visas, and updating of technology for border patrol. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 8:28:18 AM EDT
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LOL at all of the Trump disciples.
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Posted: 8/27/2016 8:28:20 AM EDT
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Trump who called Jeb Bush weak on immigration is now adopting a plan weaker than Jebs. It is now incumbent upon all who don't agree, to provide a thoughtful and concise but thoroughly factually supported and ironclad rebuttal of that one single factually bereft, and baseless sentence. "They won't answer because they can't". ~ Saul Alinsky's GD Disciples
http://www.dailywire.com/news/8657/whoops-trumps-new-plan-left-jeb-rubio-and-cruz-ben-shapiro [AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill]
By: Ben Shapiro August 25, 2016 Ann is honest about her immigration position, and naturally, she’s ticked. She should be. That’s particularly true given Trump’s comments on Fox News on Monday night, where he said, “What people don't know is that Obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country. Bush, the same thing. Lots of people were brought out of the country with the existing laws. Well, I'm going to do the same thing." He added that there could “certainly” be a softening. Trump’s new immigration policy is now significantly to the left of Jeb! Bush’s, Little Marco Rubio’s, and Lyin’ Ted Cruz’s. Jeb Bush stated in November 2015, “What we need to do is allow people to earn legal status where they pay a fine, where they work, where they don't commit crimes, where they learn English, and over an extended period of time, they earn legal status. That's the path -- a proper path.” To which Trump responded, “The weakest person on this stage by far on illegal immigration is Jeb Bush.” But Jeb’s position incorporated more hoops than Trump’s, not merely the mythical back taxes. He also vowed to withhold federal law enforcement funds from sanctuary cities, deporting immigrants who overstayed their visas, and updating of technology for border patrol. That's merely a critique piece; still waiting for Trump's actual plan.
The plan "that's weaker than Jeb's" And we'll need Jeb's actual "plan" for comparison as well. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 8:34:44 AM EDT
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LOL at all of the Trump disciples. His goal was to be the nominee, good job guys. 15 other guys, most of whom where better placed in politics than Trump had the same goal. He crushed them. Because everyone is stupid; except for the erudite never trump/always Hillary and the newly minted "Jeb is better than Trump" crowd. 
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Posted: 8/27/2016 8:55:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The. Purse swinging and hysteria are alwayz fascinating to watch but where is this plan? Link? The always hillary crowd says trumpnever talks about specifics. Well. Is this the one time he did? Link to the plan please Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The man, over the last week, has made public statements refuting his strongest stances on immigration during the primaries. His VP candidate, while good in many areas, sided with GWB's comprehensive immigration reform. His new Campaign Manager supported legalization of illegal immigrants to appeal to hispanic voters. You still need more? |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 9:08:19 AM EDT
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The man, over the last week, has made public statements refuting his strongest stances on immigration during the primaries. His VP candidate, while good in many areas, sided with GWB's comprehensive immigration reform. His new Campaign Manager supported legalization of illegal immigrants to appeal to hispanic voters. You still need more? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The. Purse swinging and hysteria are alwayz fascinating to watch but where is this plan? Link? The always hillary crowd says trumpnever talks about specifics. Well. Is this the one time he did? Link to the plan please Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The man, over the last week, has made public statements refuting his strongest stances on immigration during the primaries. His VP candidate, while good in many areas, sided with GWB's comprehensive immigration reform. His new Campaign Manager supported legalization of illegal immigrants to appeal to hispanic voters. You still need more? so. NOW Trump speaks in absolute specifics showing amazing level of detail in the spoken word that it constitutes (and I quote here) a plan. For the first time in a year. Nothing else he has ever said or done is a plan. Just a bunch of generalizations to feed the mouthbreathing morons so stupid to vote for him. But, now, we have a concrete, set in stone, unwaiverable take it to the bank PLAN. 
the intellectual wing of the republican party (properly coached by MSNBC and CNN) has spoken yet again. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 9:10:08 AM EDT
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Oh shit.
forgot. I thought Trump was too stupid to even know what his plans are. This is all an ego stunt to boost ratings for his new show. Nope. The rope a dope has finally come through. The only plan trump knows about, cares about, and is running on is his giant amnesty. Well, my days of taking the #alwayshillary crowd seriously are coming to a middle. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 9:14:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh shit. forgot. I thought Trump was too stupid to even know what his plans are. This is all an ego stunt to boost ratings for his new show. Nope. The rope a dope has finally come through. The only plan trump knows about, cares about, and is running on is his giant amnesty. Well, my days of taking the #alwayshillary crowd seriously are coming to a middle. We went through this in the primaries What carries more weight? What the candidate ACTUALLY SAYS his positions are when asked? What is written on his website that he may or may not have had any involvement in writing? |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 9:17:23 AM EDT
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So back to touchback amnesty. Awesome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Washington (CNN)Donald Trump ruled out Thursday a pathway to legal status for undocumented immigrants in the United States, walking back comments he made earlier this week in which he appeared open to the idea. "There's no path to legalization unless they leave the country," Trump said after an event in Manchester, New Hampshire. "When they come back in, then they can start paying taxes, but there is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and then come back." Trump said that on his first day in office, he would authorize law enforcement to actively deport "bad dudes," such as those who have committed crimes, which he said numbered "probably millions." But he declined to flatly say whether he would round up other undocumented immigrants, stressing that once the initial deportations occur, "then we can talk." "There is a very good chance the answer could be yes," Trump said when asked if he would deport those who have lived here peacefully but without papers. "We're going to see what happens." https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform Seriously people, calm the fuck down. So back to touchback amnesty. Awesome. As the husband of a legal immigrant, I can assure you that gaining citizenship is a rather lengthy pain in the ass which will by itself eliminate a good chunk of the people wanting to return. |
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