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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:47:39 PM EDT
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I'm hoping that you meant to say that the responsibility for appointing FISC judges lies with the Chief Justice and simply misspoke. Sorry if I caused confusion and your point is taken. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:50:31 PM EDT
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There won't be anything with a POTUS fingerprint on it. That will come when someone in DoJ or NSC flips. Literally it's the law. 
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:52:56 PM EDT
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Can't wait to see who tries to make an immunity deal first.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:52:57 PM EDT
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Someone should go to prison.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:53:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:54:55 PM EDT
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:56:29 PM EDT
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This Adam Shiff (sp) is spinning this like a motherfucker right now, says he doesn't have the info Nunes has. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:03:45 PM EDT
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Isn't he also the same asshole who was essentially using phrases such as, "It's probable/likely/maybe that Paul Manafort did <fill in the blank>, isn't that a fact Mr. Comey?" |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:09:50 PM EDT
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Can't wait to see who tries to make an immunity deal first. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:42:12 PM EDT
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Can't wait to see who tries to make an immunity deal first. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:08:36 PM EDT
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They spied on Chief Justice Roberts too. It's in the Freedom Watch open letter linked in the other thread.
If there's one organization I do trust, it's Freedom/Judicial Watch. Y'all need to go read it. http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:25:36 PM EDT
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No, it looks like he tweeted stupid bullshit again and has zero proof. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:27:06 PM EDT
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I can't speak to the IRS. From what I saw relative to the intel community I don't believe that any retained their jobs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did those disciplinary actions include getting fired? Because let me explain it to you, in the private sector, something like that would get you fired in a fucking heartbeat. When it was uncovered you would have been escorted out the door *that* day. Every fucking person at the IRS that was involved in harassing conservatives should have been fired. Some should have faced criminal prosecution. Government bureaucrats live in this fantasy world where malfeasance, gross incompetence, and even criminality have few if any consequences. If people lost their jobs in the intel community, every person in that community should know about it in as much detail as possible. You should not "believe" that these people lost their jobs, you should know it with certainty. You see, our modern intelligence community has a tremendous ability to look both outward and inward. That latter ability is extremely dangerous and should be treated like a plutonium core. You guys have capabilities to spy on Americans domestically that East Germany's Stasi would have given their collective right nuts to have. This is a dangerous world and that capability can be quite useful to our national security at times. But, if it is misused, it is one of the most corrosive acids imaginable to the integrity of our democracy. It can only exit in peace with the American public as long as they are confident that it is being used responsibly and for the right ends. Once a majority of the public believes that this awesome power is being abused ..... all trust between the people and their government immediately vanishes. That is why it is so important that when there are those that are caught misusing this power, it is imperative that they be punished swiftly and potently. When incidence of misuse occur, every person with access to this type of information and capability should see demonstrated in no uncertain terms exactly what the consequences of that abuse are. I have no confidence that what I have outlined is how things are operating now. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:30:35 PM EDT
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They spied on Chief Justice Roberts too. It's in the Freedom Watch open letter linked in the other thread. If there's one organization I do trust, it's Freedom/Judicial Watch. Y'all need to go read it. http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf 
Not only that you see that shit abou the 08' election? |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:45:16 PM EDT
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They spied on Chief Justice Roberts too. It's in the Freedom Watch open letter linked in the other thread. If there's one organization I do trust, it's Freedom/Judicial Watch. Y'all need to go read it. http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:48:32 PM EDT
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It's long been said that J. Edgar Hoover survived in his position by having too much dirt on everyone else to be touched, looks like the FBI and other intelligence agencies are still practicing that. As has been noted earlier in this thread, if the American people get to the point where they believe that the intelligence agencies are using surveillance against the American people in order to maintain their positions and control over the people, things could get nasty, fast. Especially if they were involved in rigging elections. Throw pot needles, chocolate donuts, and video games at the perps??? |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:57:34 PM EDT
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I would be interested in knowing if Russians initiated contact with Team Trump or if it was the other way around. It would be easy for Obama to have Russians contact them and then run surveillance on Americans claiming it was incidental.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:58:06 PM EDT
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You know, what we know about our intelligence community today is bad enough.
What do we know with reasonable certainty? 1.) Michael Flynn's phone conversations were in the best of light picked up inadvertently. 2.) Instead of masking the domestic side of those conversations, Flynn was unmasked deliberately and the transcripts were circulated widely with the hope/intent that someone would leak them to the press. 3.) After they were circulated, indeed someone (or possibly even several) in the intelligence community did leak those transcripts. And that's just what the best reading of what we know at this moment would lead you to conclude. At a minimum, a number of our intelligence community have betrayed the trust of the American people. And it may be far worse than what we know today. Parts of our government are rotten to the core. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:59:47 PM EDT
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All AG Certifications for surveillance sealed at the FISA Courthouse have POTUS fingerprint. Literally it's the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There won't be anything with a POTUS fingerprint on it. That will come when someone in DoJ or NSC flips. Literally it's the law. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:00:36 PM EDT
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A question on the 'incidental' part....how 'incidental' would it be if they intentionally targeted someone on a minimal (or non existant) pretext just because of their prior contact with Trump? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:03:02 PM EDT
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You forgot what else "America" said. America: Repeal Obamacare "America votes for republicans" America: repeal Obamacare Republicans: We need the presidency Trump: I will repeal Obamacare and replace it with more government healthcare America: MAGA Republicans: Here is Trump care, it's obamacare, but shittier Trump:Vote for it or else America: MAGA Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Congress: Obamacare penalty is not a tax Roberts: Obamacare penalty is legal due to taxing power of congress. America: Fuck You. I have zero faith in that POS. America: Repeal Obamacare "America votes for republicans" America: repeal Obamacare Republicans: We need the presidency Trump: I will repeal Obamacare and replace it with more government healthcare America: MAGA Republicans: Here is Trump care, it's obamacare, but shittier Trump:Vote for it or else America: MAGA So... wanna trade to what could have been, or stick with one thing that's not perfect in the first few months out of four years? Otherwise you're making a mountain out of what is currently a molehilll. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:05:47 PM EDT
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You should make an anonymity deal. Bet you wish you didn't exist every time your shit gets packed a little harder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't wait to see who tries to make an immunity deal first. 
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:06:02 PM EDT
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:07:12 PM EDT
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Can't stump the trump nevertrumpers
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:09:35 PM EDT
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CIA and NSA contract gone whistleblower reveals that Donald Trump and other prominent businessmen, Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices, Federal justices, and 156 judges are just the tip of persons who the spy agencies conducted illegal surveillance on for years.
Apparently, he took 47 hard drives with over 600 million pages of evidence and sought whistleblower protection status, went with his attorney to FBI HQ for a sworn testimony interview, and the attorney took this evidence to Nunez years ago. The contractor stated that he personally witnessed up close and personal this type of surveillance and that James Clapper and John Brennan lied before Congress about these issues. There's a whole PDF on it. The attorney is one of the founders of Judicial Watch, has won landmark decisions in US District Court on illegal surveillance in Klayman vs Obama et al 957 F. He is a former Federal Prosecutor of the DOJ. Whistleblower and Judicial Watch Founder throw down the goods |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:11:31 PM EDT
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They spied on Chief Justice Roberts too. It's in the Freedom Watch open letter linked in the other thread. If there's one organization I do trust, it's Freedom/Judicial Watch. Y'all need to go read it. http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf
Not only that you see that shit abou the 08' election? If true it is the single biggest event in this nation's history. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:12:46 PM EDT
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:14:44 PM EDT
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There won't be anything with a POTUS fingerprint on it. That will come when someone in DoJ or NSC flips. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:14:50 PM EDT
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I thought it wasn't possible. Too many safeguards, remember? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:16:17 PM EDT
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The point of the late Obama administration change that caused wider distribution of intelligence reports was to make the distro list so big that leakers couldn't be identified. Also, I doubt that anyone who could finger Obama would flip. Obama would probably be isolated by at least two layers, and only someone like Valarie Jarrett would be talking to him directly. And she's not going to flip. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There won't be anything with a POTUS fingerprint on it. That will come when someone in DoJ or NSC flips. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:18:05 PM EDT
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The point of the late Obama administration change that caused wider distribution of intelligence reports was to make the distro list so big that leakers couldn't be identified. Also, I doubt that anyone who could finger Obama would flip. Obama would probably be isolated by at least two layers, and only someone like Valarie Jarrett would be talking to him directly. And she's not going to flip. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:19:40 PM EDT
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:19:54 PM EDT
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CIA and NSA contract gone whistleblower reveals that Donald Trump and other prominent businessmen, Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices, Federal justices, and 156 judges are just the tip of persons who the spy agencies conducted illegal surveillance on for years. Apparently, he took 47 hard drives with over 600 million pages of evidence and sought whistleblower protection status, went with his attorney to FBI HQ for a sworn testimony interview, and the attorney took this evidence to Nunez years ago. The contractor stated that he personally witnessed up close and personal this type of surveillance and that James Clapper and John Brennan lied before Congress about these issues. There's a whole PDF on it. The attorney is one of the founders of Judicial Watch, has won landmark decisions in US District Court on illegal surveillance in Klayman vs Obama et al 957 F. He is a former Federal Prosecutor of the DOJ. Whistleblower and Judicial Watch Founder throw down the goods 
It really sets the narrative going forward. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:20:20 PM EDT
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You should make an anonymity deal. Bet you wish you didn't exist every time your shit gets packed a little harder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't wait to see who tries to make an immunity deal first. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:21:54 PM EDT
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I understand, but you are now acknowledging that what we all speculated and feared is actually possible? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. Capability has never been in question. Has it? |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:28:07 PM EDT
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If it has teeth, it can bite. Capability has never been in question. Has it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. Capability has never been in question. Has it? Has your opinion changed at all? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I'm just legitimately curious. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:28:33 PM EDT
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Edit hard to keep up with you guys. Beaten like mule.
I friggin gate Kindle Spell Check. Fuuuuuuuuuuuk |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:32:32 PM EDT
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Well that certainly reads exactly like what we have been speculating. If true it is the single biggest event in this nation's history. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They spied on Chief Justice Roberts too. It's in the Freedom Watch open letter linked in the other thread. If there's one organization I do trust, it's Freedom/Judicial Watch. Y'all need to go read it. http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf
Not only that you see that shit abou the 08' election? If true it is the single biggest event in this nation's history. One guy who worked at Target with no prior history, just clocked out early one day, drove to Bill Gwatney's office, asked to volunteer, was told the Congressman wasn't available, then walked passed the secretary and shot him repeatedly, then went on a high speed chase with police, who killed him in a shoot out. Gwatney was pledged to Hillary and was going to ask for a recount of delegates who had been strong-armed into changing their votes over to Hussein. A lot of strange events happened in the 2008 that have not been covered much at all. The illegal foreign money and backstage incidents in Denver, Hussein not being on the ballot in Michigan, strong-arming of delegates, and complicity from the presstitute whores in media. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:33:53 PM EDT
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The technology was never in question. It's the structure and safeguarding of the information and capability of motivated individuals to use said information for nefarious purposes which was always the question. We were told by you and others repeatedly that there is no feasible way this could happen to any degree without it being stopped by some process or safeguard built into the system. Has your opinion changed at all? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I'm just legitimately curious. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. Capability has never been in question. Has it? Has your opinion changed at all? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I'm just legitimately curious. I've always disagreed with technical falsehoods and impossibilities. I disagree with innuendo. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:35:03 PM EDT
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The technology was never in question. It's the structure and safeguarding of the information and capability of motivated individuals to use said information for nefarious purposes which was always the question. We were told by you and others repeatedly that there is no feasible way this could happen to any degree without it being stopped by some process or safeguard built into the system. Has your opinion changed at all? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I'm just legitimately curious. The government isn't collecting data on everyone! The Government isn't listening to your calls! The government isn't RECORDING your calls! The government isn't monitoring everyone's web activity! The government isn't STORING that data! The government isn't collecting DNA The government isn't collecting face photos What's next? They always follow up, once proven wrong, with "Well it's not going to be abused! Then when it is... well it was abused and that guy needs punished, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater! Just to sum up this thread. Trump: "I was wire tapped!" NeverTrumps: "No you weren't you're lying!" *evidence comes out that somehow the government was recording Trumps calls* NeverTrumps: Well yea, but it could have been all these other reasons! He just got lucky they happened to have recorded his calls when he said it! All semantics, and curtains to hide behind. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:37:07 PM EDT
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Do you believe the government collects and stores all of your phone calls and emails?
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:39:25 PM EDT
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I never said that. Not once, not ever. I've always disagreed with technical falsehoods and impossibilities. I disagree with innuendo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. Capability has never been in question. Has it? Has your opinion changed at all? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I'm just legitimately curious. I've always disagreed with technical falsehoods and impossibilities. I disagree with innuendo. What's your take on the letter? It reads like a spy novel but there are so many specifics such as certain FBI agents names who witnessed it all in a SCIF etc... I'm trying to figure out what to think of it all. The letter is the single biggest thing in all of this but is being glossed over in this discussion. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:40:20 PM EDT
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Do you believe the government collects and stores all of your phone calls and emails? |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:41:44 PM EDT
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No And in 20 years, I'm sure we'll look back and laugh about optimistic naivety when we thought they didn't. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:43:04 PM EDT
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Ok, I won't argue that. What's your take on the letter? It reads like a spy novel but there are so many specifics such as certain FBI agents names who witnessed it all in a SCIF etc... I'm trying to figure out what to think of it all. The letter is the single biggest thing in all of this but is being glossed over in this discussion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. Capability has never been in question. Has it? Has your opinion changed at all? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I'm just legitimately curious. I've always disagreed with technical falsehoods and impossibilities. I disagree with innuendo. What's your take on the letter? It reads like a spy novel but there are so many specifics such as certain FBI agents names who witnessed it all in a SCIF etc... I'm trying to figure out what to think of it all. The letter is the single biggest thing in all of this but is being glossed over in this discussion. Senior Obama officials won't be prosecuted without full public disclosure. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:43:09 PM EDT
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I believe they record and save EVERYTHING THEY CAN. There's tech/corporate hurdles for some of it of course. But every single call and email they can get their hands on, yes I absolutely believe they do. And in 20 years, I'm sure we'll look back and laugh about optimistic naivety when we thought they didn't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:44:06 PM EDT
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I'm not calling anything "incidental." Nunes is calling it incidental. I maintain the same position since the beginning of this thread... If this was targeting Trump, then it's illegal and political and needs to be made public, so that those who did it can be jailed. If this was legitimately targeting a Foreign Agent who happened to be talking to the Trump campaign, that's a different story. Even so, those who leaked it need to be jailed. Capability has never been in question. Has it? Has your opinion changed at all? I'm not trying to bust your balls. I'm just legitimately curious. I've always disagreed with technical falsehoods and impossibilities. I disagree with innuendo. What's your take on the letter? It reads like a spy novel but there are so many specifics such as certain FBI agents names who witnessed it all in a SCIF etc... I'm trying to figure out what to think of it all. The letter is the single biggest thing in all of this but is being glossed over in this discussion. Senior Obama officials won't be prosecuted without full public disclosure. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:44:28 PM EDT
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I believe they record and save EVERYTHING THEY CAN. There's tech/corporate hurdles for some of it of course. But every single call and email they can get their hands on, yes I absolutely believe they do. And in 20 years, I'm sure we'll look back and laugh about optimistic naivety when we thought they didn't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:44:49 PM EDT
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I believe they focus on areas and individuals for maximum value. It only makes sense. I still don't believe it's technologically possible to gather it all. That doesn't make sense. The question is, do they? Well, since doing so would be a pretty evil and diabolical thing to do... I'd say yea, they are, given their track record. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:11:42 AM EDT
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The bit about the information being "widely disseminated" is potentially alarming and is exactly the sort of thing I said needs to be brought to light a few pages back. |
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