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Posted: 4/26/2015 8:40:49 PM EDT
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LMAO. The answer does not lie in shallow literalism. The right constantly uses anti-gov rhetoric to gain support, regardless of its, or your, end goal. Do you really think the end goal and the rhetoric they feed your ass are symmetrical? Fucking unbelievable... and hilarious... I guess Mencken was right about a few things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People on the right want to reform the government. They can not be anti government if they wish to reform it. You dont know what Anti means. LMAO. The answer does not lie in shallow literalism. The right constantly uses anti-gov rhetoric to gain support, regardless of its, or your, end goal. Do you really think the end goal and the rhetoric they feed your ass are symmetrical? Fucking unbelievable... and hilarious... I guess Mencken was right about a few things. The right uses reformist rhetoric to gain support. The goals republican politicians espouse, compared with what they do, shares little symmetry. You could even say republican politicians are anti government because they do not follow the most basic laws they are bound by, But then that is something they share with the left in equal measure. but to say, people who demand a reformation of government back into lawful accordance, are anti government, is the epitome of rediculousness. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 9:08:28 PM EDT
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but to say, people who demand a reformation of government back into lawful accordance, are anti government, is the epitome of rediculousness. Regardless, the rhetoric is still broadcast. Because it seems to have some effect. I'll leave the mechanism of that effect to your imagination. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 9:19:03 PM EDT
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That's not remotely a 'gotcha piece.' I don't know what it is with you people. It's like every little thing needs to be an ultimate, final statement. When Boehner tries to claim, not so successfully, that he is "the most anti-establishment" what sentiments in the party is he trying to tap? A love of good corn dogs? Try Google. Learn something. Maybe you can pry yourself out of denial. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yawn. An opinion piece saying that folks shouldn't mention that most people didn't even notice the government shutdown (which was actually the truth by the way) is your gotcha piece that the right is anti-government. That's not remotely a 'gotcha piece.' I don't know what it is with you people. It's like every little thing needs to be an ultimate, final statement. When Boehner tries to claim, not so successfully, that he is "the most anti-establishment" what sentiments in the party is he trying to tap? A love of good corn dogs? Try Google. Learn something. Maybe you can pry yourself out of denial. 
Everyone claims that they are anti-establishment because the establishment has such horrible approval ratings. If you were running for congress, and congress had 18% approval ratings as a whole would you say that you are part of team congress or an outsider? This shit hasn't changed since forever or we wouldn't have slogans like "A new deal" and "Hope and Change" in our vocabulary. None of this means that they want to burn DC down. It just means they want to be seen as an outsider and not one of those guys. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 9:29:41 PM EDT
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2 Parties. No choices.
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Posted: 4/26/2015 9:31:46 PM EDT
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what's even more amusing is that the far left is also making the same sorts of arguments. spent last week at a geography conference, and some of the most radical scholars are seriously critiquing state power. it's like these guys started out on the left, and came around the backside to the far right. i mentioned this to a few guys, and they vehemently denied being part of the evil right wing, but some of their comments might as well have been posted in GD.
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Posted: 4/26/2015 11:10:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit dude did you wake up with a giant iron rod up your ass this morning? Feeling like going marching? No one is saying the American right is on some kind of kill bender. The article talks about how anti-gov views, not actions, have become even more mainstream right whereas before they were more on the fringes e.g. McVeigh. "Twenty years ago, the idea of anti-government resistance seemed confined to a lunatic fringe operating in the shadows beyond the mainstream. Twenty years later, it is the mainstream, the beating heart of the Republican Party. And while certainly no responsible figure on the right advocates or condones what he did, it is just as certain that McVeigh's violent antipathy toward Washington, his conviction that America's government is America's enemy, has bound itself to the very DNA of modern conservatism." The right is anti government. The right taps anti gov rhetoric constantly in addressing its supporters. It's obvious. Your ridiculous gyrations and absurd accusations of Bolshevism aren't going to change it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The right carries a shitload of anti-gov sentiment. There's no disputing it. The evidence is overwhelming. Your limp name-calling won't change that. Love the Che T shirt mention. I see you're trying to get your arfcom tough guy cred back. You should call me a statist while you are at it, and then sink back in your La-Z-Boy and gloat. The Che analogy is apt. I see Che shirts with frequency here in Socialisteattle and elsewhere. Che and his ideology have killed far more people than McVeigh and his ideology have. Never, anywhere, have I seen even one single McVeigh t-shirt. If we all want to be McVeighs, why no t-shirts or bumper stickers? Tough-guy cred? Classic Couch-Cominkey bolshevik. Holy shit dude did you wake up with a giant iron rod up your ass this morning? Feeling like going marching? No one is saying the American right is on some kind of kill bender. The article talks about how anti-gov views, not actions, have become even more mainstream right whereas before they were more on the fringes e.g. McVeigh. "Twenty years ago, the idea of anti-government resistance seemed confined to a lunatic fringe operating in the shadows beyond the mainstream. Twenty years later, it is the mainstream, the beating heart of the Republican Party. And while certainly no responsible figure on the right advocates or condones what he did, it is just as certain that McVeigh's violent antipathy toward Washington, his conviction that America's government is America's enemy, has bound itself to the very DNA of modern conservatism." The right is anti government. The right taps anti gov rhetoric constantly in addressing its supporters. It's obvious. Your ridiculous gyrations and absurd accusations of Bolshevism aren't going to change it. Further, Pitts is trying to make the association that the actions taken by Republicans who want to limit government and buck at recent governmental overreach (usually try horrible actions such as bitching on the innerneck) are somehow associated with and even equatable to the views and actions actions of McVeigh (mass murder by bomb). Pitts does it all with a dogwhistle and a wink, wink, knod, knod to folks like you who echo his ridiculous association. You seem like a smart and educated person, but you say so many retarded things. This is yet another classic example of that. Here's the the reverse analog to what Pitts has done here, using his own words: "Twenty years ago, the idea of Communist revolution as advocated by Che Guevarra seemed confined to a lunatic fringe operating in the shadows beyond the mainstream. Twenty years later, it is the mainstream, the beating heart of the Democratic Party. And while certainly no responsible figure on the left advocates or condones what Che did (Communist Revolution), it is just as certain that Che's violent antipathy toward Washington, his conviction that the American government is the enemy, has bound itself to the very DNA of modern liberalism." If any of us had written that, you would be denying its truth. You fucking know it. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 11:42:54 PM EDT
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With all this battling, you know who loses?
The American People. Every single time. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 12:02:24 AM EDT
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Here's the the reverse analog to what Pitts has done here, using his own words: "Twenty years ago, the idea of Communist revolution as advocated by Che Guevarra seemed confined to a lunatic fringe operating in the shadows beyond the mainstream. Twenty years later, it is the mainstream, the beating heart of the Democratic Party. And while certainly no responsible figure on the left advocates or condones what Che did (Communist Revolution), it is just as certain that Che's violent antipathy toward Washington, his conviction that the American government is the enemy, has bound itself to the very DNA of modern liberalism." If any of us had written that, you would be denying its truth. You fucking know it. More like I'd say that you got it mostly right. I might change the phrasing and details in certain ways, but, then, you were aping the format of the prior, so it's cool. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 12:17:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More like I'd say that you got it mostly right. I might change the phrasing and details in certain ways, but, then, you were aping the format of the prior, so it's cool. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's the the reverse analog to what Pitts has done here, using his own words: "Twenty years ago, the idea of Communist revolution as advocated by Che Guevarra seemed confined to a lunatic fringe operating in the shadows beyond the mainstream. Twenty years later, it is the mainstream, the beating heart of the Democratic Party. And while certainly no responsible figure on the left advocates or condones what Che did (Communist Revolution), it is just as certain that Che's violent antipathy toward Washington, his conviction that the American government is the enemy, has bound itself to the very DNA of modern liberalism." If any of us had written that, you would be denying its truth. You fucking know it. More like I'd say that you got it mostly right. I might change the phrasing and details in certain ways, but, then, you were aping the format of the prior, so it's cool. So what types of resistance do you see routinely advocated for on arfcom? That is what Pitts in the article talks about. Not bitching or dissatisfaction—resistance. Like McVeigh resisted, wink, wink, nod, nod. Dogwhistle, dogwhistle. Here, boy. Here, minkey . . . |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 12:39:46 AM EDT
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lol. I don't believe you. So what types of resistance do you see routinely advocated for on arfcom? That is what Pitts in the article talks about. Not bitching or dissatisfaction—resistance. Like McVeigh resisted, wink, wink, nod, nod. Dogwhistle, dogwhistle. Here, boy. Here, minkey . . . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's the the reverse analog to what Pitts has done here, using his own words: "Twenty years ago, the idea of Communist revolution as advocated by Che Guevarra seemed confined to a lunatic fringe operating in the shadows beyond the mainstream. Twenty years later, it is the mainstream, the beating heart of the Democratic Party. And while certainly no responsible figure on the left advocates or condones what Che did (Communist Revolution), it is just as certain that Che's violent antipathy toward Washington, his conviction that the American government is the enemy, has bound itself to the very DNA of modern liberalism." If any of us had written that, you would be denying its truth. You fucking know it. More like I'd say that you got it mostly right. I might change the phrasing and details in certain ways, but, then, you were aping the format of the prior, so it's cool. So what types of resistance do you see routinely advocated for on arfcom? That is what Pitts in the article talks about. Not bitching or dissatisfaction—resistance. Like McVeigh resisted, wink, wink, nod, nod. Dogwhistle, dogwhistle. Here, boy. Here, minkey . . . 
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Posted: 4/27/2015 1:21:02 AM EDT
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lol. I don't believe you. So what types of resistance do you see routinely advocated for on arfcom? That is what Pitts in the article talks about. Not bitching or dissatisfaction—resistance. Like McVeigh resisted, wink, wink, nod, nod. Dogwhistle, dogwhistle. Here, boy. Here, minkey . . . The phrase used was "the idea of anti-government resistance" and that idea is a popular one here. I don't care what you believe. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 1:22:51 AM EDT
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What's there to refute? The right has an anti-gov bent. Just look at the shit people post in this place every day. Duh...? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saw this gem linked on Facebook. Discuss this fucking herp derp.... Thing that kills me is that there are NO people on our side that write and point out the extremism on the left or at least refute this bull shit. 
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/04/timothy_mcveighs_anti-governme.html#incart_related_stories What's there to refute? The right has an anti-gov bent. Just look at the shit people post in this place every day. Duh...? So, have any ARFCOmers blown up a building lately? 
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Posted: 4/27/2015 1:26:36 AM EDT
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So, have any ARFCOmers blown up a building lately? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saw this gem linked on Facebook. Discuss this fucking herp derp.... Thing that kills me is that there are NO people on our side that write and point out the extremism on the left or at least refute this bull shit.
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/04/timothy_mcveighs_anti-governme.html#incart_related_stories What's there to refute? The right has an anti-gov bent. Just look at the shit people post in this place every day. Duh...? So, have any ARFCOmers blown up a building lately? No one was asserting such a thing. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 1:30:13 AM EDT
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No one was asserting such a thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saw this gem linked on Facebook. Discuss this fucking herp derp.... Thing that kills me is that there are NO people on our side that write and point out the extremism on the left or at least refute this bull shit.
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/04/timothy_mcveighs_anti-governme.html#incart_related_stories What's there to refute? The right has an anti-gov bent. Just look at the shit people post in this place every day. Duh...? So, have any ARFCOmers blown up a building lately? No one was asserting such a thing. So the Timothy McVeigh tie-in is mere hyperbole? |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 1:43:09 AM EDT
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so the claim is that all conservatives are just like timmy? no.
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