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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:13:09 PM EDT
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To be replaced with the USS Green Bay (LPD-20) next year. I imagine that will be quite an upgrade. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/The_Green_Bay_%28LPD_20%29_near_New_Orleans.jpg/300px-The_Green_Bay_%28LPD_20%29_near_New_Orleans.jpg I bet it will. It will probably come with babes on the crew for the Marines so that Captain's Mast will be standing room only. |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:15:25 PM EDT
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Poor Coast Guard is still deploying ships older and much smaller than this! Define "deploy" 
Smilax (and I think a few others) were commissioned during WW2 and are still in service, but the only deploying she does is setting ATON The ships I was assigned to were commissioned in 61, 86, 88, and 11. The ones I rode on were from 42, 67, 68, 82, and 89. All but one of those is still in service 
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:16:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like a USCG WHEC. Take in lines. Make it 60ft from the pier. Something major catches on fire. Shoot lines back over. 4 month patrol complete in 7 minutes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't think a lot of you guys realize how beat the fuck up that boat is. Like, break down all the time and almost have explosions beat the fuck up. Sounds like a USCG WHEC. Take in lines. Make it 60ft from the pier. Something major catches on fire. Shoot lines back over. 4 month patrol complete in 7 minutes. I think it was the Denver a bunch of my buddies almost died on when the berthing area started filling with bunker fuel when everyone was racked out and the only think that saved them was a guy walking past the P-way who smelt the fuel Got help then started pulling dudes out. Guess the fumes started displacing O2 and everyone was slowly suffocating. |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:26:11 PM EDT
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Me to at that time. But I only remember the fond memories now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I rue the day I left the Gator Navy and went to CRUDES. I deployed with her in my ARG back in 02. I despise Gators. Me to at that time. But I only remember the fond memories now. +1 |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:37:33 PM EDT
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This USS Denver?
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:41:43 PM EDT
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Poor Coast Guard is still deploying ships older and much smaller than this! 3 years ago there were 6 ships of ours still in service that sat on the gun line off Vietnam. Now we still have 4 of them in service. I figured it out a while back. Roughly half our fleet was built before the 80's and that encompasses virtually all of our major ships. OPC can't come soon enough, but it will be another 15 years. That shit is unacceptable. |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:42:47 PM EDT
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ROFL! I think it was the Denver a bunch of my buddies almost died on when the berthing area started filling with bunker fuel when everyone was racked out and the only think that saved them was a guy walking past the P-way who smelt the fuel Got help then started pulling dudes out. Guess the fumes started displacing O2 and everyone was slowly suffocating. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think a lot of you guys realize how beat the fuck up that boat is. Like, break down all the time and almost have explosions beat the fuck up. Sounds like a USCG WHEC. Take in lines. Make it 60ft from the pier. Something major catches on fire. Shoot lines back over. 4 month patrol complete in 7 minutes. I think it was the Denver a bunch of my buddies almost died on when the berthing area started filling with bunker fuel when everyone was racked out and the only think that saved them was a guy walking past the P-way who smelt the fuel Got help then started pulling dudes out. Guess the fumes started displacing O2 and everyone was slowly suffocating. They would have evacuated that berthing because in the event of a leak and or flooding from a fuel source, that berthing would be inside of a primary fire boundary. Even if the fuel didn't cause a fire, they have to treat it as it would, until the source of the fuel/ leak and or rupture is isolated and then cleaned up. |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:44:46 PM EDT
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Snowleopards rack? She did say she had served on a ship with a welldeck... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I STILL can't talk about where I went on that tub. So don't none of you guys ask me.  
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They would have evacuated that berthing because in the event of a leak and or flooding from a fuel source, that berthing would be inside of a primary fire boundary. Even if the fuel didn't cause a fire, they have to treat it as it would, until the source of the fuel/ leak and or rupture is isolated and then cleaned up. Quote HistoryQuoted: snip They would have evacuated that berthing because in the event of a leak and or flooding from a fuel source, that berthing would be inside of a primary fire boundary. Even if the fuel didn't cause a fire, they have to treat it as it would, until the source of the fuel/ leak and or rupture is isolated and then cleaned up. But the primary reason was getting people out, conscious, and on O2. My buddy said it was pretty trippy racking out, then waking up in a P-way with people trying to wake you up. |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:54:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMaybe, yes, yes, no, no, yes, no, no, no, no, no, no. |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:57:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI was in the Med with PhibRon 2 when Austin lost her stern gate. If I had a picture of that these two old girls could be book ends. 
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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:59:39 PM EDT
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I was on the USS Denver for the last half of WestPac 83. RIP.
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Posted: 7/23/2014 9:06:47 PM EDT
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They would have evacuated that berthing because in the event of a leak and or flooding from a fuel source, that berthing would be inside of a primary fire boundary. Even if the fuel didn't cause a fire, they have to treat it as it would, until the source of the fuel/ leak and or rupture is isolated and then cleaned up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think a lot of you guys realize how beat the fuck up that boat is. Like, break down all the time and almost have explosions beat the fuck up. Sounds like a USCG WHEC. Take in lines. Make it 60ft from the pier. Something major catches on fire. Shoot lines back over. 4 month patrol complete in 7 minutes. I think it was the Denver a bunch of my buddies almost died on when the berthing area started filling with bunker fuel when everyone was racked out and the only think that saved them was a guy walking past the P-way who smelt the fuel Got help then started pulling dudes out. Guess the fumes started displacing O2 and everyone was slowly suffocating. They would have evacuated that berthing because in the event of a leak and or flooding from a fuel source, that berthing would be inside of a primary fire boundary. Even if the fuel didn't cause a fire, they have to treat it as it would, until the source of the fuel/ leak and or rupture is isolated and then cleaned up. The Chilton sprung a leak in the starboard day tank and put thousands of gallons of 6 oil in the bilges sloshing around under the boilers. We didn't evacuate the hole. We just pumped them over the side and kept on steaming. Well by springing a leak I mean it rusted through. |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 9:15:30 PM EDT
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Define "deploy"
Smilax (and I think a few others) were commissioned during WW2 and are still in service, but the only deploying she does is setting ATON The ships I was assigned to were commissioned in 61, 86, 88, and 11. The ones I rode on were from 42, 67, 68, 82, and 89. All but one of those is still in service Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Poor Coast Guard is still deploying ships older and much smaller than this! Define "deploy"
Smilax (and I think a few others) were commissioned during WW2 and are still in service, but the only deploying she does is setting ATON The ships I was assigned to were commissioned in 61, 86, 88, and 11. The ones I rode on were from 42, 67, 68, 82, and 89. All but one of those is still in service I saw the poor little Alert pull in to Kodiak Island up for a bearing sea patrol in 2011ish. |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 9:21:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw the poor little Alert pull in to Kodiak Island up for a bearing sea patrol in 2011ish. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Poor Coast Guard is still deploying ships older and much smaller than this! Define "deploy" Smilax (and I think a few others) were commissioned during WW2 and are still in service, but the only deploying she does is setting ATON The ships I was assigned to were commissioned in 61, 86, 88, and 11. The ones I rode on were from 42, 67, 68, 82, and 89. All but one of those is still in service I saw the poor little Alert pull in to Kodiak Island up for a bearing sea patrol in 2011ish. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 8:59:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWTF!? It's trying to eat that tug! |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:13:03 AM EDT
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USS Green Bay (LPD-20)
Crew: Ship: 28 officers, 332 enlisted Marine Detachment: 66 officers, 633 enlisted (can be expanded to 800) Speed: 22 knots Well deck capacity: two LCAC or one LCU and 14 Expeditionary Fighting Vehicles Aircraft: landing platform for all helicopters and the MV-22 Osprey; maintenance facilities for one CH-53E or two CH-46s or one MV-22 or three UH/AH-1s USS Denver (LPD 9) Crew: Ship: 24 officers, 396 enlisted Marine Detachment: approx. 900 Speed: 21 knots Well deck capacity: one LCAC or one LCU or four LCM-8 or nine LCM-6 or 24 amphibious assault vehicles (AAV) Aircraft: none, but telescopic hangar installed aboard. The hangar is not used to accommodate helicopters but on the flight deck there is space for up to six CH-46 helicopters. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 11:07:59 AM EDT
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USS Denver (LPD 9) Crew: Ship: 24 officers, 396 enlisted Marine Detachment: approx. 900 Speed: 21 knots Well deck capacity: one LCAC or one LCU or four LCM-8 or nine LCM-6 or 24 amphibious assault vehicles (AAV) Aircraft: none, but telescopic hangar installed aboard. The hangar is not used to accommodate helicopters but on the flight deck there is space for up to six CH-46 helicopters. LPD - 21 knots? Maybe to the bottom after it's been torpedoed. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 11:15:27 AM EDT
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Oldest?
Hell, we lay in a goodly supply of hard tack, salt beef and oakum and we can set sail in the USS Constitution RFN.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 11:33:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the 1200 lb cruisers or (shudder) one of the BROOKE-class FFGs (aka Broke-class) with the 1200lb P-fired plants would have been MUCH worse. I know a guy who relieved as CHENG of a steam CG in the hole, and was relieved in the hole 18 mos later. He barely saw daylight.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I remember being scared to death the Navy was going to make me a CHENG on one of those. One of the 1200 lb cruisers or (shudder) one of the BROOKE-class FFGs (aka Broke-class) with the 1200lb P-fired plants would have been MUCH worse. I know a guy who relieved as CHENG of a steam CG in the hole, and was relieved in the hole 18 mos later. He barely saw daylight. ) can't hear shit, love sitting under big fans, are prone to having OPPE nightmares, and their BALLS drag on the ground! |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 11:49:36 AM EDT
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I served in Gators and DDs/DDGs and even an odd CV. My worst, craziest and scariest memory of dealing with Gators was when I was deployed in a Spru-Can in 1986 with PHIBGRU-3. Tarawa was the head "Fat-Boy". We had an assorted lot of other Gators, plus about five escorts, some missile ships, some ASW types.
One day, the admiral decided to conduct division maneuvering tactics with ALL the ships. That goat rope is hard enough with just one ship type, and absolutely insane when you mix Gators and destroyers. After several completed screwed up maneuvers and three near collisions, he relented and put everybody back in a normal steaming formation with the Gators in a gaggle in the center and the rest of us way out on ASW screening stations...sort of like a WWII convoy scheme for the uninitiated. Kept us out of harm's way. The other scary incident was when the Schenectady had a main space fire and went DIW in heavy seas. What a mess. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 12:01:52 PM EDT
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USS Blue Ridge, LCC-19, will likely step up as the oldest ship in the USN. It's a little over two years newer.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 12:13:38 PM EDT
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This thread got me to thinking about the LaSalle. The last time I saw that one in Gaeta (1996 or 97) it was in sorry shape.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 12:19:36 PM EDT
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I served in Gators and DDs/DDGs and even an odd CV. My worst, craziest and scariest memory of dealing with Gators was when I was deployed in a Spru-Can in 1986 with PHIBGRU-3. Tarawa was the head "Fat-Boy". We had an assorted lot of other Gators, plus about five escorts, some missile ships, some ASW types. One day, the admiral decided to conduct division maneuvering tactics with ALL the ships. That goat rope is hard enough with just one ship type, and absolutely insane when you mix Gators and destroyers. After several completed screwed up maneuvers and three near collisions, he relented and put everybody back in a normal steaming formation with the Gators in a gaggle in the center and the rest of us way out on ASW screening stations...sort of like a WWII convoy scheme for the uninitiated. Kept us out of harm's way. The other scary incident was when the Schenectady had a main space fire and went DIW in heavy seas. What a mess. Main space fire, eh? Sounds like fun! |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 12:28:28 PM EDT
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I remember being scared to death the Navy was going to make me a CHENG on one of those. FOUR BURNIN, TWO TURNIN! STEAM, baby! <---- Twidget.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 12:31:27 PM EDT
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One of the 1200 lb cruisers or (shudder) one of the BROOKE-class FFGs (aka Broke-class) with the 1200lb P-fired plants would have been MUCH worse. I know a guy who relieved as CHENG of a steam CG in the hole, and was relieved in the hole 18 mos later. He barely saw daylight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I remember being scared to death the Navy was going to make me a CHENG on one of those. One of the 1200 lb cruisers or (shudder) one of the BROOKE-class FFGs (aka Broke-class) with the 1200lb P-fired plants would have been MUCH worse. I know a guy who relieved as CHENG of a steam CG in the hole, and was relieved in the hole 18 mos later. He barely saw daylight. Not uncommon. Remember the cartoon "Broadside"? "It's called the 'sun', CHENG. We get it every day up here..." |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 12:41:04 PM EDT
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I served in Gators and DDs/DDGs and even an odd CV. My worst, craziest and scariest memory of dealing with Gators was when I was deployed in a Spru-Can in 1986 with PHIBGRU-3. Tarawa was the head "Fat-Boy". We had an assorted lot of other Gators, plus about five escorts, some missile ships, some ASW types. One day, the admiral decided to conduct division maneuvering tactics with ALL the ships. That goat rope is hard enough with just one ship type, and absolutely insane when you mix Gators and destroyers. After several completed screwed up maneuvers and three near collisions, he relented and put everybody back in a normal steaming formation with the Gators in a gaggle in the center and the rest of us way out on ASW screening stations...sort of like a WWII convoy scheme for the uninitiated. Kept us out of harm's way. The other scary incident was when the Schenectady had a main space fire and went DIW in heavy seas. What a mess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I served in Gators and DDs/DDGs and even an odd CV. My worst, craziest and scariest memory of dealing with Gators was when I was deployed in a Spru-Can in 1986 with PHIBGRU-3. Tarawa was the head "Fat-Boy". We had an assorted lot of other Gators, plus about five escorts, some missile ships, some ASW types. One day, the admiral decided to conduct division maneuvering tactics with ALL the ships. That goat rope is hard enough with just one ship type, and absolutely insane when you mix Gators and destroyers. After several completed screwed up maneuvers and three near collisions, he relented and put everybody back in a normal steaming formation with the Gators in a gaggle in the center and the rest of us way out on ASW screening stations...sort of like a WWII convoy scheme for the uninitiated. Kept us out of harm's way. The other scary incident was when the Schenectady had a main space fire and went DIW in heavy seas. What a mess. Ah yes... DIVTACS with dissimilar ship types at half standard distance - what fun. PHIBRON 2 tried that with our three-ship MARG once. I remember walking through our forward UNREP station on SAIPAN, looking out and just seeing a huge wall of gray that was the LPD. Our CO was way senior to the Commodore, who was embarked on the LPD for some reason. In fact, he was the senior CAPT in the entire Navy. He sent a fairly terse P4 by flashing light: That last maneuver was the most unprofessional I have seen in my career. I will not endanger this 40,000 ton ship again. No more DIVTACS that cruise. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 12:44:22 PM EDT
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Not uncommon. Remember the cartoon "Broadside"? "It's called the 'sun', CHENG. We get it every day up here..." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I remember being scared to death the Navy was going to make me a CHENG on one of those. One of the 1200 lb cruisers or (shudder) one of the BROOKE-class FFGs (aka Broke-class) with the 1200lb P-fired plants would have been MUCH worse. I know a guy who relieved as CHENG of a steam CG in the hole, and was relieved in the hole 18 mos later. He barely saw daylight. Not uncommon. Remember the cartoon "Broadside"? "It's called the 'sun', CHENG. We get it every day up here..."  Yeah, I think I remember that exact one.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:15:52 PM EDT
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Great thread. Navy Life. Lots of memories.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:48:26 PM EDT
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I was OOD in Fletcher at about 4 bells on the evening watch. We were in a screen Kilo about 030/8k-12k from the guide. It was dark as hell, with 10-20 ft waves. I heard the OPREP-3 going out over Navy Red from COMPHBGRU-3 and immediately buzzed the CO, called away the helo and turned the ship around and called for a full bell. I told the DCA I'd heard Schenectady requesting more OBAs and canisters and to have ours ready for helo transfer if required. I hauled ass to take station astern and downwind of Schenectady and put our bow into a good, slow course for both station keeping and helo ops. The CO had arrive while I was steaming down to where the Fat Boys were milling about, trying to stay out of the way and not run into each other. He approved of my plan (A first!
) but I really did not want our helo trying to hover over that radically rolling "T". Then we saw some H-46s shuttling back and forth, trying to get a net full of gear down to the burning ship. The helo crew finally just dropped the damn thing. About that time, the admiral ordered us to return to our station. One of the other Gators took Schenectady in two after her fire was out. She was a wreck below with both main spaces gutted by fire. I hated working with Gators. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:51:46 PM EDT
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I was OOD in Fletcher at about 4 bells on the evening watch. We were in a screen Kilo about 030/8k-12k from the guide. It was dark as hell, with 10-20 ft waves. I heard the OPREP-3 going out over Navy Red from COMPHBGRU-3 and immediately buzzed the CO, called away the helo and turned the ship around and called for a full bell. I told the DCA I'd heard Schenectady requesting more OBAs and canisters and to have ours ready for helo transfer if required. I hauled ass to take station astern and downwind of Schenectady and put our bow into a good, slow course for both station keeping and helo ops. The CO had arrive while I was steaming down to where the Fat Boys were milling about, trying to stay out of the way and not run into each other. He approved of my plan (A first! ) but I really did not want our helo trying to hover over that radically rolling "T". Then we saw some H-46s shuttling back and forth, trying to get a net full of gear down to the burning ship. The helo crew finally just dropped the damn thing. About that time, the admiral ordered us to return to our station. One of the other Gators took Schenectady in two after her fire was out. She was a wreck below with both main spaces gutted by fire. I hated working with Gators.When about did this occur? |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:15:42 AM EDT
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These grand old ladies of the seas...
USS Denver RIP and thanks for your faithful service! Hopefull for striping and turning you into a reef for divers to enjoy for many more years of service to peace in our time 
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