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Posted: 3/3/2015 3:29:47 PM EDT

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It looks like Abel could use some pointers on how to properly hold a handgun.

Otherwise...another great post!

Posted: 3/3/2015 3:32:15 PM EDT

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Here is a decent ID site to get you started on Star pistols.

http://star-firearms.com/firearms/

Posted: 3/3/2015 3:32:20 PM EDT

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Yep, the BKS is only 3oz heavier than the S&W Shield and IMHO is a far and away better built weapon. It's a joy to carry.

It got very high marks from Bill Jordan. His (as is yours) was a Starlite. Note the slightly different profile at the bottom of the front of the grip. Otherwise they are the same. Mine was made in 1972. Yours is a bit earlier.

Same size as a BM, just a alloy frame.

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I got my BKS with the intention of a hard chrome/brushed stainless sort of finish but the honest patina and unique wear grew on me. It's a great little gun,exceptionally nicely pointing and very well balanced. It's too bad that Star went away before concealed carry changed the pistol market in the US,I think they had a lot of guns that would have sold well and kept the company alive. I have a Firestar 9mm as well and am on the casual lookout for one of the plastic Ultrastars,just to have it

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/mossie500/kerpow/IMAG1740-1.jpg

Yep, the BKS is only 3oz heavier than the S&W Shield and IMHO is a far and away better built weapon. It's a joy to carry.

It got very high marks from Bill Jordan. His (as is yours) was a Starlite. Note the slightly different profile at the bottom of the front of the grip. Otherwise they are the same. Mine was made in 1972. Yours is a bit earlier.

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I've never seen the BKS before. If that's it in the first pic, it looks a lot like the BM (maybe slightly longer). Interesting.

Same size as a BM, just a alloy frame.

I rescued mine from the shelf of junker pistols at a shop for if I remember correctly would have been something like $100. If I EVER see a LaFrance Nova Star conversion for sale,my credit card will melt at the speed it is run through the register to buy it. That was certainly a gun far too ahead of its time.

Posted: 3/3/2015 3:33:54 PM EDT

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Another great O_P thread that makes me want to spend more money.

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My work here is done.

Posted: 3/3/2015 3:34:14 PM EDT

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I rescued mine from the shelf of junker pistols at a shop for if I remember correctly would have been something like $100. If I EVER see a LaFrance Nova Star conversion for sale,my credit card will melt at the speed it is run through the register to buy it. That was certainly a gun far too ahead of its time.

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I got my BKS with the intention of a hard chrome/brushed stainless sort of finish but the honest patina and unique wear grew on me. It's a great little gun,exceptionally nicely pointing and very well balanced. It's too bad that Star went away before concealed carry changed the pistol market in the US,I think they had a lot of guns that would have sold well and kept the company alive. I have a Firestar 9mm as well and am on the casual lookout for one of the plastic Ultrastars,just to have it

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/mossie500/kerpow/IMAG1740-1.jpg

Yep, the BKS is only 3oz heavier than the S&W Shield and IMHO is a far and away better built weapon. It's a joy to carry.

It got very high marks from Bill Jordan. His (as is yours) was a Starlite. Note the slightly different profile at the bottom of the front of the grip. Otherwise they are the same. Mine was made in 1972. Yours is a bit earlier.

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I've never seen the BKS before. If that's it in the first pic, it looks a lot like the BM (maybe slightly longer). Interesting.

Same size as a BM, just a alloy frame.

I rescued mine from the shelf of junker pistols at a shop for if I remember correctly would have been something like $100. If I EVER see a LaFrance Nova Star conversion for sale,my credit card will melt at the speed it is run through the register to buy it. That was certainly a gun far too ahead of its time.

What year is yours? Use the link above to find the date code. Likely the date code is under the stocks.

Posted: 3/3/2015 3:39:44 PM EDT

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It looks like Abel could use some pointers on how to properly hold a handgun.

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He knows how to hold it and does just fine with it.

I took the picture in recoil and his hand had shifted a bit.

Posted: 3/3/2015 3:47:08 PM EDT

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I had one of the Ultrastars back when, interesting look/design but horrible trigger and difficult to shoot well IMO.

Still wish I had it, though, just because you don't see many of them.

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... I have a Firestar 9mm as well and am on the casual lookout for one of the plastic Ultrastars,just to have it...

I had one of the Ultrastars back when, interesting look/design but horrible trigger and difficult to shoot well IMO.

Still wish I had it, though, just because you don't see many of them.

I've been on the lookout for a Firestar M43 for over a year. I saw one at a pawn shop and went home to do some research on it then went back the next day to buy it and it was gone.

It just felt sooo good in the hand!
Nice write up OP!

Posted: 3/3/2015 4:50:35 PM EDT

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Looks like a nice pistol at a great price.

Thanks for the write up!

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You bet.

Posted: 3/3/2015 4:57:22 PM EDT

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Same here...........he always knocks um' out of the park.

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:01:16 PM EDT

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Same here...........he always knocks um' out of the park.

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Love this guy's posts.

Same here...........he always knocks um' out of the park.

Well, thanks.

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:07:42 PM EDT

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Great review! Glad to see the next generation getting a great start to the hobby, and learning a valuable lesson...SHOOTING STUFF IS FUN!!!

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He kept saying, "Just a few more!"

He gets it honestly.

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:08:02 PM EDT

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If you want one you better order it today. Anyone remember how OP ruined cheap Ballester Molinas?

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:09:38 PM EDT

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Actually, that was Sistemas.

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:13:45 PM EDT

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If you want one you better order it today. Anyone remember how OP ruined cheap Ballester Molinas?

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Too late....Sold out.

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:17:51 PM EDT

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Too late....Sold out.

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If you want one you better order it today. Anyone remember how OP ruined cheap Ballester Molinas?

Too late....Sold out.

Dang, that was quick.

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:19:59 PM EDT

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Dang, that was quick.

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If you want one you better order it today. Anyone remember how OP ruined cheap Ballester Molinas?

Too late....Sold out.

Dang, that was quick.

If anyone still has a hankering, J&G Sales has 'em for $249.95.

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:22:38 PM EDT

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If anyone still has a hankering, J&G Sales has 'em for $249.95.

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If you want one you better order it today. Anyone remember how OP ruined cheap Ballester Molinas?

Too late....Sold out.

Dang, that was quick.

If anyone still has a hankering, J&G Sales has 'em for $249.95.

Thanks, good information.

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:27:12 PM EDT

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don't these make great suppressor platforms?

DId someone make a threaded barrel for these?

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:34:06 PM EDT

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Agreed. Thanks O_P!

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:37:09 PM EDT

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Yep, knowledgeable and informative, coherent and used proper spelling and punctuation. Excellent pictures as well.
Sir, respectfully, a post of this caliber simply has no place in GD...

Posted: 3/3/2015 5:41:08 PM EDT

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Yep, knowledgeable and informative, coherent and used proper spelling and punctuation. Excellent pictures as well.
Sir, respectfully, a post of this caliber simply has no place in GD...

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Love this guy's posts.

Yep, knowledgeable and informative, coherent and used proper spelling and punctuation. Excellent pictures as well.
Sir, respectfully, a post of this caliber simply has no place in GD...

Thanks for the kind words.

I will admit that every time I post one, I feel like I am turning in an English assignment in college.

Posted: 3/3/2015 6:59:55 PM EDT

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I own several flavors of Model Bs in both 9mm P and Largo and every one of them is a fine shooter. Best kept secret in the mil-surp world.

The last one I bought (9mm P BKS) is a fine weapon....It's Commander sized with a aluminum frame. Excellent carry pistol. Very few were imported.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/rck2dy.jpg

Interarms sold 9mm Largo Model Bs with a extra 9mm P barrel back in the late 80s or so.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/hwcmd2.jpg

It does not hurt to have spare parts either.

B Super with Largo Slide

http://oi58.tinypic.com/34sq7o8.jpg

Bag-O-B-Parts.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/20960ih.jpg

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BTW, 1srelluc, that is a very nice collection.

Posted: 3/3/2015 7:38:16 PM EDT

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A bump for the evening crew.

Posted: 3/3/2015 8:17:54 PM EDT

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Great stuff as usual, O_P.

Posted: 3/3/2015 9:02:12 PM EDT

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Great stuff as usual, O_P.

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A bump for the evening crew.

Great stuff as usual, O_P.

Thanks. It is a fun pistol.

Posted: 3/3/2015 9:11:44 PM EDT

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I held a few when I lived in South Africa and they always impressed me as a handgun.

I would like to buy one someday to go with my FAL.

Posted: 3/3/2015 9:21:14 PM EDT

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I held a few when I lived in South Africa and they always impressed me as a handgun.

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Don't wait too long.

Posted: 3/3/2015 10:43:47 PM EDT

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If you ever want to do a write up on a CZ P-09, just let me know.

Posted: 3/4/2015 5:25:21 AM EDT

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don't these make great suppressor platforms?

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There WAS an outfit named Federal Arms Corporation of America that made stainless threaded barrels for Stars.

Seems that Century Arms bought them out.

Posted: 3/4/2015 5:40:21 AM EDT

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Thank you for the nice review.

Odd question: Is the magazine well bigger, front to back, than a 1911?

Posted: 3/4/2015 9:46:22 AM EDT

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Thank you for the nice review.

Odd question: Is the magazine well bigger, front to back, than a 1911?

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I'll pull my Model B out tonight and measure it, but off-hand it should be smaller. If you look at a Model B by itself, it's not quite apparent, but when you set one next to a full-size 1911 you'll see it's smaller all around - almost a sort of 7/8th scale M1911.

Posted: 3/4/2015 10:37:32 AM EDT

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bump...

Posted: 3/4/2015 11:09:54 AM EDT

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Thank you for the nice review.

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Well, you made me dig them out of the safe and get the caliper.

Magazines first:

Star mag front to back = 1.402
1911 front to back = 1.368

Pistol grip measured just under the trigger guard from front to back: (It is hard to compare grip size due to 1911 grip safety and palm swell on Star.)

Star pistol grip = 2.02
1911 pistol grip = 2.02

The Star "feels" slimmer overall, but also "feels" longer front to back.

Posted: 3/4/2015 11:42:11 AM EDT

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I had a Star 38 super many years ago. Looked a lot like a 1911. Got it in a trade. It was a good shooter, but not really a caliber I wanted in the stable.
Ended up trading it even across for a .45 Commander.

I still have a Star .45 PD model. It's a good shooting pistol.

Posted: 3/4/2015 11:57:58 AM EDT

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The B Super mags are longer as they were really made for 9mm .38 (Largo).

That is why you get "nose down" feeding problems with some 115gr fodder in some B Supers. I like 124gr fodder in the B Super. No issues.

The mag on the left is a 9mm P mag for the Star BKS. The one on the right is a B Super mag. Note how the longer 9mm .38 Largo round fits it.

That is why I can just change out the slide and use Largo in my B Super. Same mag, feeds fine.

Posted: 3/4/2015 12:41:56 PM EDT

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I have one of these with wood grips. The extractor is crappy though and only about half of the extractor ledge sits on the casing ridge. When the gun fires, the extractor slips off the casing causing it to either stay partly in the chamber or stove-pipe. If not for that, it would be a pretty decent and cheap gun.

I also removed the mag safety.