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Posted: 12/6/2014 10:37:55 AM EDT
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so im a lazy fuck who doesnt want to search for all the parts needed. Can you IM me all the links or just post them here
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Posted: 12/6/2014 10:40:04 AM EDT
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I have YHM QD FLASH SUPPRESSOR mounts on all my rifles, AR15 in 556/300blk and an AR 10, even a .308 16.5 inch bolt gun...I had planned on getting one YHM Ti suppressor to run on all of them...recently I bought a Simplistic Shooting Solutions Brake Sheild for an AR pistol (7.5") in aneffort to tame this beast...
Any opinions of using some of the same ttechniques and materials here to incorporate the SSS Brake Sheild into a form 1'able Ti suppressor? Seems to me the suppressor tube (if SS) could be tig welded to the brake sheild and it (the brake sheild) would function as blast chamber and a shoulder for the first baffle...or that the Ti tube could be threaded inside and the brake sheild threaded outside so the Ti tube could be threaded onto the brake sheild...this would also allow the flash suppressor to act as a piston of sorts if I understand this at all...AND allow QD mounting...SSS makes their brake sheild to fit SUREFIRE AND AAC QD mounts..they are about $65...this design would also allow for the use of only one end cap offseting costs...would be really nice if SSS would make the unit 8-9-10 inches long but I think they were trying not to makeit so easy to make illegal suppressors so...easy... |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:01:10 AM EDT
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so im a lazy fuck who doesnt want to search for all the parts needed. Can you IM me all the links or just post them here Jesus, do you want someone to build it for you too? There's a link on the first page to the thread with every bit of info you could need. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:01:38 AM EDT
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Time to go get my trust notarized and get on this.
A little intimidating, as I've never done anything like this, no machining experience, never submitted a form one, etc... However I'm not an idiot when it comes to using tools and following directions, so just maybe I won't blow myself up. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:02:18 AM EDT
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Jesus, do you want someone to build it for you too? There's a link on the first page to the thread with every bit of info you could need. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so im a lazy fuck who doesnt want to search for all the parts needed. Can you IM me all the links or just post them here Jesus, do you want someone to build it for you too? There's a link on the first page to the thread with every bit of info you could need. sure why not? Know of an SOT that will?  
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:02:32 AM EDT
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It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:09:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI no, for serious, what is it?Eta: figured it out, thanks google
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:13:46 AM EDT
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Tagging this one for sure
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:17:39 AM EDT
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Jesus, do you want someone to build it for you too? There's a link on the first page to the thread with every bit of info you could need. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so im a lazy fuck who doesnt want to search for all the parts needed. Can you IM me all the links or just post them here Jesus, do you want someone to build it for you too? There's a link on the first page to the thread with every bit of info you could need. Actually, yes. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:23:27 AM EDT
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It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI Serious question and not trying to skirt the law in any way. Just trying to gather as much information as possible. At what point is it going to be considered you having a "suppressor"? If you bought all of the parts needed to make one but have not drilled the first hole in one of the freeze plugs or formed the first baffle, would it be illegal even though you purchased the parts legally? |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:27:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Serious question and not trying to skirt the law in any way. Just trying to gather as much information as possible. At what point is it going to be considered you having a "suppressor"? If you bought all of the parts needed to make one but have not drilled the first hole in one of the freeze plugs or formed the first baffle, would it be illegal even though you purchased the parts legally? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI Serious question and not trying to skirt the law in any way. Just trying to gather as much information as possible. At what point is it going to be considered you having a "suppressor"? If you bought all of the parts needed to make one but have not drilled the first hole in one of the freeze plugs or formed the first baffle, would it be illegal even though you purchased the parts legally? |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:30:01 AM EDT
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Unfortunately it doesn't matter. If you buy the threaded tube with the intent to use it to assemble a suppressor it's illegal, whether you have a completed form 1 stamp or not. Have you noticed there aren't any "assemble a suppressor" kits out there for easy form 1 builds? It isn't because there's no market... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI Serious question and not trying to skirt the law in any way. Just trying to gather as much information as possible. At what point is it going to be considered you having a "suppressor"? If you bought all of the parts needed to make one but have not drilled the first hole in one of the freeze plugs or formed the first baffle, would it be illegal even though you purchased the parts legally? That's a very good point. I just like knowing before I dive into something like this because I am not big enough to play chase in a prison shower
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:30:11 AM EDT
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That you build with minimal tools required, and only a 35 day wait via E Forms.... And yes it sounds just as good as the SDN-6's I've shot on the same gun... Specs: (Made with SD Tactical Components...) Weight: 17oz Length: 8.6" (Tube is 7.6", large endcaps add .5" each, there are slimmer versions coming) How To LINK (Most of this video is under a roof, which makes it appear louder, the cell phone video (on the right) is more accurrate sounding.)  http://youtu.be/FGAjlHmh0tY
Renaissance men. See how easy it is to make suppressors... hint hint!
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Posted: 12/6/2014 11:54:35 AM EDT
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anyone find the TI tube? I can't find it on their site
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:02:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, yes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: so im a lazy fuck who doesnt want to search for all the parts needed. Can you IM me all the links or just post them here |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:07:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have YHM QD FLASH SUPPRESSOR mounts on all my rifles, AR15 in 556/300blk and an AR 10, even a .308 16.5 inch bolt gun...I had planned on getting one YHM Ti suppressor to run on all of them...recently I bought a Simplistic Shooting Solutions Brake Sheild for an AR pistol (7.5") in aneffort to tame this beast... Any opinions of using some of the same ttechniques and materials here to incorporate the SSS Brake Sheild into a form 1'able Ti suppressor? Seems to me the suppressor tube (if SS) could be tig welded to the brake sheild and it (the brake sheild) would function as blast chamber and a shoulder for the first baffle...or that the Ti tube could be threaded inside and the brake sheild threaded outside so the Ti tube could be threaded onto the brake sheild...this would also allow the flash suppressor to act as a piston of sorts if I understand this at all...AND allow QD mounting...SSS makes their brake sheild to fit SUREFIRE AND AAC QD mounts..they are about $65...this design would also allow for the use of only one end cap offseting costs...would be really nice if SSS would make the unit 8-9-10 inches long but I think they were trying not to makeit so easy to make illegal suppressors so...easy... The YHM can contacts at two points - the ACME threads and the end of the flash hider. That shield only touches the ACME threads. You'd need to fabricate and weld something onto the end of the shield to stabilize against the end of the flash hider. Then weld your endcap and tube onto the shield. It's certainly a lot easier than fabricating your own mount from scratch. Here's how you guys can improve performance. Cut out a section of the aperture as shown in these Specwar baffle pics. This is also the same baffle used in the Saker. Do NOT do this to the blast baffle. If you are not using a brake like in the OP, you should make the blast baffle flatter and keep it symmetric.  |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:10:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:13:07 PM EDT
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Tag for later
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:19:33 PM EDT
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Unfortunately it doesn't matter. If you buy the threaded tube with the intent to use it to assemble a suppressor it's illegal, whether you have a completed form 1 stamp or not. Have you noticed there aren't any "assemble a suppressor" kits out there for easy form 1 builds? It isn't because there's no market... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI Serious question and not trying to skirt the law in any way. Just trying to gather as much information as possible. At what point is it going to be considered you having a "suppressor"? If you bought all of the parts needed to make one but have not drilled the first hole in one of the freeze plugs or formed the first baffle, would it be illegal even though you purchased the parts legally? Hmm, if I bought a fake suppressor that goes over the barrel to give it the SBR look also, would that be illegal? To complete it justneeds baffles and an end cap. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:23:21 PM EDT
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Unfortunately it doesn't matter. If you buy the threaded tube with the intent to use it to assemble a suppressor it's illegal, whether you have a completed form 1 stamp or not. Have you noticed there aren't any "assemble a suppressor" kits out there for easy form 1 builds? It isn't because there's no market... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI Serious question and not trying to skirt the law in any way. Just trying to gather as much information as possible. At what point is it going to be considered you having a "suppressor"? If you bought all of the parts needed to make one but have not drilled the first hole in one of the freeze plugs or formed the first baffle, would it be illegal even though you purchased the parts legally? What? Even if you have the compled F1 stamp? I dont get it |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:24:13 PM EDT
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Oh so tagged... |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:29:04 PM EDT
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Ok...I follow you on the 2 pts of contact...but if one were to first get their form 1 (for the ATF guys monitoring) then thread the outer tube portion of the brake sheild, then thread the Ti tube and screw it on like a sleeve over the brake sheild would not the internal lip (now) shoulder of the brake sheild now function as a concentric contact point for the first baffle?
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The YHM can contacts at two points - the ACME threads and the end of the flash hider. That shield only touches the ACME threads. You'd need to fabricate and weld something onto the end of the shield to stabilize against the end of the flash hider. Then weld your endcap and tube onto the shield. It's certainly a lot easier than fabricating your own mount from scratch. Here's how you guys can improve performance. Cut out a section of the aperture as shown in these Specwar baffle pics. This is also the same baffle used in the Saker. Do NOT do this to the blast baffle. If you are not using a brake like in the OP, you should make the blast baffle flatter and keep it symmetric. http://i.imgur.com/lDsrSdW.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have YHM QD FLASH SUPPRESSOR mounts on all my rifles, AR15 in 556/300blk and an AR 10, even a .308 16.5 inch bolt gun...I had planned on getting one YHM Ti suppressor to run on all of them...recently I bought a Simplistic Shooting Solutions Brake Sheild for an AR pistol (7.5") in aneffort to tame this beast... Any opinions of using some of the same ttechniques and materials here to incorporate the SSS Brake Sheild into a form 1'able Ti suppressor? Seems to me the suppressor tube (if SS) could be tig welded to the brake sheild and it (the brake sheild) would function as blast chamber and a shoulder for the first baffle...or that the Ti tube could be threaded inside and the brake sheild threaded outside so the Ti tube could be threaded onto the brake sheild...this would also allow the flash suppressor to act as a piston of sorts if I understand this at all...AND allow QD mounting...SSS makes their brake sheild to fit SUREFIRE AND AAC QD mounts..they are about $65...this design would also allow for the use of only one end cap offseting costs...would be really nice if SSS would make the unit 8-9-10 inches long but I think they were trying not to makeit so easy to make illegal suppressors so...easy... The YHM can contacts at two points - the ACME threads and the end of the flash hider. That shield only touches the ACME threads. You'd need to fabricate and weld something onto the end of the shield to stabilize against the end of the flash hider. Then weld your endcap and tube onto the shield. It's certainly a lot easier than fabricating your own mount from scratch. Here's how you guys can improve performance. Cut out a section of the aperture as shown in these Specwar baffle pics. This is also the same baffle used in the Saker. Do NOT do this to the blast baffle. If you are not using a brake like in the OP, you should make the blast baffle flatter and keep it symmetric. http://i.imgur.com/lDsrSdW.jpg |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:32:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What? Even if you have the compled F1 stamp? I dont get it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI Serious question and not trying to skirt the law in any way. Just trying to gather as much information as possible. At what point is it going to be considered you having a "suppressor"? If you bought all of the parts needed to make one but have not drilled the first hole in one of the freeze plugs or formed the first baffle, would it be illegal even though you purchased the parts legally? What? Even if you have the compled F1 stamp? I dont get it It's up to you to decide just how grey you want to get...
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:32:23 PM EDT
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ARGHHHH ANOTHER HOBBY!!!! Thanks arfcom
 
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:34:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, unfortunately regardless of stamp status or possession purchasing a "suppressor part" is illegal. The worst part of all is a "suppressor part" will be arbitrarily defined by the BATF should they decide to push the issue. Does it make sense? no. That doesn't change the fact that filing a form 1 than purchasing one of the threaded SDTACTICAL tubes to make a suppressor is illegal. The way people are getting around this is by making a "solvent trap" with the tube and end caps first, next filing a form 1 and upon receipt drilling the endcaps and purchasing baffles. It's up to you to decide just how grey you want to get... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI Serious question and not trying to skirt the law in any way. Just trying to gather as much information as possible. At what point is it going to be considered you having a "suppressor"? If you bought all of the parts needed to make one but have not drilled the first hole in one of the freeze plugs or formed the first baffle, would it be illegal even though you purchased the parts legally? What? Even if you have the compled F1 stamp? I dont get it It's up to you to decide just how grey you want to get... |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:35:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok...I follow you on the 2 pts of contact...but if one were to first get their form 1 (for the ATF guys monitoring) then thread the outer tube portion of the brake sheild, then thread the Ti tube and screw it on like a sleeve over the brake sheild would not the internal lip (now) shoulder of the brake sheild now function as a concentric contact point for the first baffle? I'm not following on this part. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:52:17 PM EDT
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Ok...I follow you on the 2 pts of contact...but if one were to first get their form 1 (for the ATF guys monitoring) then thread the outer tube portion of the brake sheild, then thread the Ti tube and screw it on like a sleeve over the brake sheild would not the internal lip (now) shoulder of the brake sheild now function as a concentric contact point for the first baffle? I'm not following on this part. Basically the brake sheilds end will function as a blast baffle allowing the next baffles to rest on top of it much like a spacer... |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:56:30 PM EDT
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Yes, that would work, but I wouldn't do it with freeze plugs. This contact point gives the stiffness needed to keep the whole can straight on the mount. I'd lathe turn a piece of 4000 series steel and weld it to the tube. Then put freeze plugs after that.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:11:07 PM EDT
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Wanna know what I hate most about Minnesota?... Al Franken?????
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:22:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That you build with minimal tools required, and only a 35 day wait via E Forms.... And yes it sounds just as good as the SDN-6's I've shot on the same gun... Specs: (Made with SD Tactical Components...) Weight: 17oz Length: 8.6" (Tube is 7.6", large endcaps add .5" each, there are slimmer versions coming) How To LINK (Most of this video is under a roof, which makes it appear louder, the cell phone video (on the right) is more accurrate sounding.) http://youtu.be/FGAjlHmh0tYNice illegal weapon Enjoy your time in fed butt fuck prison  Wow, maybe in newyorkastan, but in many places this is just a two stamp weapon. SBR's, and silencers are legal if you follow proper procedure you douche.http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/200/420/BRTky.jpg?1321408042 |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:26:31 PM EDT
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OK, you've got my attention.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:51:09 PM EDT
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Omg I don't have money for this... I am going to need a third job.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:59:06 PM EDT
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Nice, I'm gonna have to do this. I love projects like this.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 2:04:19 PM EDT
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OK, you've got my attention.
I can't find the TI tube on SD's website. There is no Ti tube on SD's website. The Ti tube that everyone is using with the SDTA end caps is from Apogee. http://apogeeproducts.com/products |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 2:25:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2014 2:35:54 PM EDT
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There is no Ti tube on SD's website. The Ti tube that everyone is using with the SDTA end caps is from Apogee. http://apogeeproducts.com/products Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OK, you've got my attention.
I can't find the TI tube on SD's website. There is no Ti tube on SD's website. The Ti tube that everyone is using with the SDTA end caps is from Apogee. http://apogeeproducts.com/products No... SD Tactical will have the Titanium tube available next Wed. You can call and get on a waiting list. I got one early. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 2:36:40 PM EDT
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sdtactical has the titanium tubes, but they aren't listed yet. you have to call...
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Posted: 12/6/2014 2:43:33 PM EDT
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Omg I don't have money for this... I am going to need a third job. I've had access to tools and a shop for 5 years and I've still not built one. I probably should... |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 2:56:16 PM EDT
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I've had access to tools and a shop for 5 years and I've still not built one. I probably should... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Omg I don't have money for this... I am going to need a third job. I've had access to tools and a shop for 5 years and I've still not built one. I probably should... Yeah, especially after a write up like this. It looks like Ill have to figure out this form 1 nonsense |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 2:58:08 PM EDT
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Yeah, especially after a write up like this. It looks like Ill have to figure out this form 1 nonsense Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Omg I don't have money for this... I am going to need a third job. I've had access to tools and a shop for 5 years and I've still not built one. I probably should... Yeah, especially after a write up like this. It looks like Ill have to figure out this form 1 nonsense That's easy too! http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/415446_Visual_guide__How_to_fill_out_a_Form_1_using_EFORMS.html |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:01:46 PM EDT
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Omg I don't have money for this... I am going to need a third job. I've had access to tools and a shop for 5 years and I've still not built one. I probably should... Yeah, especially after a write up like this. It looks like Ill have to figure out this form 1 nonsense That's easy too! http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/415446_Visual_guide__How_to_fill_out_a_Form_1_using_EFORMS.html You're not helping. 
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:05:11 PM EDT
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sdtactical has the titanium tubes, but they aren't listed yet. you have to call... Any idea what the weight is on the Ti tube? |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:09:02 PM EDT
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Yeah, unfortunately regardless of stamp status or possession purchasing a "suppressor part" is illegal. The worst part of all is a "suppressor part" will be arbitrarily defined by the BATF should they decide to push the issue. Does it make sense? no. That doesn't change the fact that filing a form 1 than purchasing one of the threaded SDTACTICAL tubes to make a suppressor is illegal. The way people are getting around this is by making a "solvent trap" with the tube and end caps first, next filing a form 1 and upon receipt drilling the endcaps and purchasing baffles. It's up to you to decide just how grey you want to get... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It should be mentioned that purchasing "suppressor parts" is illegal. If you buy the sdtac tube, end caps and brake with the intent to assemble a suppressor you are breaking the law. Most people posting these pictorial instruction posts are buying the tube and caps as a solvent trap prior to filing a form 1. Once they receive a stamp they buy freeze plugs and drill the caps. Just FYI Serious question and not trying to skirt the law in any way. Just trying to gather as much information as possible. At what point is it going to be considered you having a "suppressor"? If you bought all of the parts needed to make one but have not drilled the first hole in one of the freeze plugs or formed the first baffle, would it be illegal even though you purchased the parts legally? What? Even if you have the compled F1 stamp? I dont get it So if I buy bar stock aluminum with the intent of eventually carving a suppressor, I'm in possession of illegal parts? Even if I have a tax stamp approved to assemble a suppressor? How is that defined? |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:09:10 PM EDT
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1) What keeps the completed can from loosening up (from the barrel threads) while shooting? Assuming I were to use the SD Tactical threaded adapter, and not a flash-hider/brake 2) How big does the blast chamber need to be? 3) How thick are the spacers? I'm a total newb to this stuff... I've got some really thick O-Rings (listed in Esstac's thread too) and I tightened mine with a strap wrench. I've had no issues with it getting loose. The baffle stack got tighter as I shot it. My blast chamber is only 1.7" (the spacer) but the griffin brake and adapter dont put the brake as far into the can as the could, so other endcaps with a 1.7" spacer may actually be a smaller blast chamber. Esstac has tried up to 2-2.3" and got more first round pop, and no noticable difference in suppression. I used seamlesss 304 Stainless pipe from onlinemetals.com. With an OD of 1.375, sanded down to 1.360".. the walls were initialls .049" and now they are .034". You can use whatever spacer material you want. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:13:31 PM EDT
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So, IG, I suppose if one wanted to make a dedicated 5.56 can using this method it'd just be a matter of putting smaller holes in the end cap and freeze plugs? Or does the coning process open the freeze plugs up to .30 cal size anyway? Using the 60 degree cone, and stretching the cone to be decently high like the picture below, stretches the hole out to .360-.370. Now that is wher you have to think.... Is a higher, more cone like baffle with a larger hole going to make up for the larger hole? Or will a smaller little cone with an appropriately sized hole work better? If you look at the new Saker 7.62, it performs better then the 5.56 while using a 5.56 endcap. Now you have to take into account that the 7.62 is a larger can and has more volume, but obviously the 7.62 sized baffles are still working very well. 
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:13:50 PM EDT
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That's easy too! http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/415446_Visual_guide__How_to_fill_out_a_Form_1_using_EFORMS.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Omg I don't have money for this... I am going to need a third job. I've had access to tools and a shop for 5 years and I've still not built one. I probably should... Yeah, especially after a write up like this. It looks like Ill have to figure out this form 1 nonsense That's easy too! http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/415446_Visual_guide__How_to_fill_out_a_Form_1_using_EFORMS.html IIRC the e file system hasn't worked in WA, |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:14:58 PM EDT
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What color Alumahyde is that on the left? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there a method available to paint the titanium black? You can get any kind of spray paint, or someone else mentioned getting 2oz samples of high heat air dry cerakote, and a preval sprayer. I just did alumahyde... https://content-na.drive.amazonaws.com/cdproxy/templink/PYKZjRC6h24-hpCK4VY0CYtcJ_Y-302yT29swRbnYrALAYspN?viewBox=1920 What color Alumahyde is that on the left? Coyote, The Magpul FDE color has been out of stock for months. Esstac tried the earth brown, and I think it would be a better match then the coyote is. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:18:01 PM EDT
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That you build with minimal tools required, and only a 35 day wait via E Forms.... And yes it sounds just as good as the SDN-6's I've shot on the same gun... Specs: (Made with SD Tactical Components...) Weight: 17oz Length: 8.6" (Tube is 7.6", large endcaps add .5" each, there are slimmer versions coming) How To LINK (Most of this video is under a roof, which makes it appear louder, the cell phone video (on the right) is more accurrate sounding.) http://youtu.be/FGAjlHmh0tY
Renaissance men. I can start January 10th 
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:19:36 PM EDT
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Diagram of how mine is setup, except the blast chamber is 1.70" and other things were shortened to make up for that...
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Posted: 12/6/2014 3:40:16 PM EDT
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Any thoughts on starting the baffle stack with a 60 deg cone with a .370 hole, and progressively reducing the hole to .340 at the end, with a 45 degree cone? Or, starting a few at 45, and increasing the cone to 60 toward the end of the can? Just thinking on how to increase the disturbance of the gasses with different angles with the given materials.
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