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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:11:02 PM EDT
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10 pages about wives and strippers and no pics...
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:13:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy him a beer for being honest? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bigger question, what do you do with the guy that ratted you out? He has broken the circle of trust.  Buy him a beer for being honest?  |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:14:02 PM EDT
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So we have the holier than Thou types and then the loose cannons here on GD. Some of you really take the story and run with it...where an ass slap or tit in the face turns into a full orgy of banging strippers three at a time...just like my former friend. Personally, half of you can hang with me and the other half are a bunch of Debbie downers that certainly aren't getting invited to my next soiree. Not because I'm going to do anything wrong, but just because you're going to bring down the house with bull shit and ruin everyone's good time. Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:16:19 PM EDT
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10 pages about wives and strippers and no pics... thread fucking sucks. Here is a picture of an adorable baby goat, just for you. 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:18:17 PM EDT
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Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So we have the holier than Thou types and then the loose cannons here on GD. Some of you really take the story and run with it...where an ass slap or tit in the face turns into a full orgy of banging strippers three at a time...just like my former friend. Personally, half of you can hang with me and the other half are a bunch of Debbie downers that certainly aren't getting invited to my next soiree. Not because I'm going to do anything wrong, but just because you're going to bring down the house with bull shit and ruin everyone's good time. Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers. 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:18:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After a while here you'll be educated that all men are paragons of virtue and all women are lying whores. It's kind of amazing to see the mental gymnastics they go to in order to always blame the woman. Someone should study it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's very possible the reason she is being jealous...is because she has a guilty conscious. I would not be surprised if she has fucked someone else, and thinks that since she did....you would. And there we are.  After a while here you'll be educated that all men are paragons of virtue and all women are lying whores. It's kind of amazing to see the mental gymnastics they go to in order to always blame the woman. Someone should study it. You're telling me that in a social group that is 99+% male you have some men that will take the man's side all the time? NO FUCKING WAY!? Seriously? I am shocked... Should try reading some of the chats on female based forums. You might be surprised how many of them take the woman's side no matter what.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:18:30 PM EDT
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I dunno. I must be old-fashioned. If I'm about to swear eternal fealty before God to a woman, the very last place I should be is hanging around with strippers. That's just...incredibly sensible. 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:20:16 PM EDT
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Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers.
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So we have the holier than Thou types and then the loose cannons here on GD. Some of you really take the story and run with it...where an ass slap or tit in the face turns into a full orgy of banging strippers three at a time...just like my former friend. Personally, half of you can hang with me and the other half are a bunch of Debbie downers that certainly aren't getting invited to my next soiree. Not because I'm going to do anything wrong, but just because you're going to bring down the house with bull shit and ruin everyone's good time. Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers.
You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Really? He made it clear? If he told her all about it, then why was she upset when she got details from a third party? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is a picture of an adorable baby goat, just for you. http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkxuhzGDeX1qzmdnbo1_500.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 10 pages about wives and strippers and no pics... thread fucking sucks. Here is a picture of an adorable baby goat, just for you. http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkxuhzGDeX1qzmdnbo1_500.jpg Awwwww Nick |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:21:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really? He made it clear? If he told her all about it, then why was she upset when she got details from a third party? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we have the holier than Thou types and then the loose cannons here on GD. Some of you really take the story and run with it...where an ass slap or tit in the face turns into a full orgy of banging strippers three at a time...just like my former friend. Personally, half of you can hang with me and the other half are a bunch of Debbie downers that certainly aren't getting invited to my next soiree. Not because I'm going to do anything wrong, but just because you're going to bring down the house with bull shit and ruin everyone's good time. Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers. You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Really? He made it clear? If he told her all about it, then why was she upset when she got details from a third party? Same reason no one cared about Ray Rice and the NFL when they knew he hit his wife, but as soon as they saw him hit his wife it became a nation wide sensation. Sometimes the facts don't change, but people's vision/perception will change everything.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:22:30 PM EDT
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Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers.
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So we have the holier than Thou types and then the loose cannons here on GD. Some of you really take the story and run with it...where an ass slap or tit in the face turns into a full orgy of banging strippers three at a time...just like my former friend. Personally, half of you can hang with me and the other half are a bunch of Debbie downers that certainly aren't getting invited to my next soiree. Not because I'm going to do anything wrong, but just because you're going to bring down the house with bull shit and ruin everyone's good time. Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers.
You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Yeah, he failed to mention that he touched one's tits though. Hey, maybe I'm old fashioned as well but IMO touching another woman like that is over the line...then lying about it just makes it worse. IMO the fiance should seriously consider ejecting. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:25:53 PM EDT
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To some here their woman licking whipped cream off a stripper's cock doesn't count as cheating, so I doubt getting a lap dance would count.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:26:38 PM EDT
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Really? He made it clear? If he told her all about it, then why was she upset when she got details from a third party? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So we have the holier than Thou types and then the loose cannons here on GD. Some of you really take the story and run with it...where an ass slap or tit in the face turns into a full orgy of banging strippers three at a time...just like my former friend. Personally, half of you can hang with me and the other half are a bunch of Debbie downers that certainly aren't getting invited to my next soiree. Not because I'm going to do anything wrong, but just because you're going to bring down the house with bull shit and ruin everyone's good time. Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers.
You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Really? He made it clear? If he told her all about it, then why was she upset when she got details from a third party? He told her about the dancers. Anyone with half a brain would assume topless or full naked girls known in the profession as strippers. Let me tell you a story... story time... I know of a guy who's fiance was racist, she said no black strippers. His buddies ordered strippers unbeknownst to them about the rule... black stripper was part of the girl package. He never told his wife what color the strippers were because he knew she would have a shit fit, let her imagination run wild, and perhaps even feel like maybe he's into black women... who knows. I suppose by GD standards here he was a cheating SOB simply because the race of the stripper wasn't revealed? Or is this all of a sudden OK? Imagine she got the details from a third party.... You don't know what the details are from the third friend nor know of his agenda, nor do I... the only details the OP presented that was that she knew dancers were present as he told her so and he stated that he did not cheat....so please stop assuming. Edit: Apparently he touched a tit. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:27:51 PM EDT
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It's Not too far off from my wedding and some dirt has come out about the bachelor party courtesy one of the boys not understanding what he learned in Bachelor Party 101. Mind you, the future Mrs was told by me what we did but I chose to keep the details to a minimum. Personally, I've always felt strippers are strictly a fantasy and not a whole lot different from watching a XXX movie or thumbing through Playboy. Regardless, upon every detail being spilled her imagination is now going wild and I'm receiving cold shoulder. She's been hinting she doesn't know what to do, and the only thing I can think that means is she's now questioning who she's marrying. We've been together 6years, and while I've lusted after a few girls that have come and gone my faithfulness is intact. So, are strippers really something I should be feeling bad about or worried about the fate of the big day? Frankly, she could have had them and I wouldn't have cared but I suppose that is because I trust her. If your fiancee was my friend and asked me my opinion, I'd tell her to not marry the guy who's lying to her about his sexual activities with other women because "strippers don't count." http://shadowsin14.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/funny-friendzone-purses.jpg?w=300&h=300 http://cdn.meme.am/instances/25225348.jpg I've been married to the same woman for almost 12 years now. I have female friends who sometimes ask me for advice. OP is lying about sexually touching other women, and entering marriage with a "Meh, it'd be cool to be married I guess but I'm not giving up my strippers to do it!" attitude. Eject is the correct advice, to his fiancee. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:28:21 PM EDT
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Yeah, he failed to mention that he touched one's tits though. Hey, maybe I'm old fashioned as well but IMO touching another woman like that is over the line...then lying about it just makes it worse. IMO the fiance should seriously consider ejecting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So we have the holier than Thou types and then the loose cannons here on GD. Some of you really take the story and run with it...where an ass slap or tit in the face turns into a full orgy of banging strippers three at a time...just like my former friend. Personally, half of you can hang with me and the other half are a bunch of Debbie downers that certainly aren't getting invited to my next soiree. Not because I'm going to do anything wrong, but just because you're going to bring down the house with bull shit and ruin everyone's good time. Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers.
You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Yeah, he failed to mention that he touched one's tits though. Hey, maybe I'm old fashioned as well but IMO touching another woman like that is over the line...then lying about it just makes it worse. IMO the fiance should seriously consider ejecting. HOLY FUCK?! A tit? SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN!
My wife would have been like "Pics or it didn't happen"
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:30:38 PM EDT
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The part where his friend lied is kind of important to the story. 
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New wife? Nah. New friend? You betcha. Were the friends instructed to lie, keep it all secret, so she wouldn't find out or was that just assumed? Maybe he thought they actually had a honest relationship if they were going to get married. I mean, if you're going to marry someone why the fuck are you trying to keep secrets and lie to them? Lets blame the honest guy. The part where his friend lied is kind of important to the story.
I wouldn't waste your time on him. IIRC, in another thread he said if he found out one of his friends cheated he would make sure to rat him out to the girlfriend even if he didn't know her. Or maybe it was another low post count non-team member 13er with a similar name. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:33:09 PM EDT
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You don't know what the details are from the third friend nor know of his agenda, nor do I... the only details the OP presented that was that she knew dancers were present as he told her so and he stated that he did not cheat....so please stop assuming. Stop assuming? He deliberately goes lean on the details and avoids telling his fiancée that there was some hands-on action with the stripper at the party. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that a lot of women aren't going to be OK with that and most of them won't care which color of skin is involved. No wonder so many folks on Arfcom are unprepared for marriage.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:41:50 PM EDT
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HOLY FUCK?! A tit? SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN!
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So we have the holier than Thou types and then the loose cannons here on GD. Some of you really take the story and run with it...where an ass slap or tit in the face turns into a full orgy of banging strippers three at a time...just like my former friend. Personally, half of you can hang with me and the other half are a bunch of Debbie downers that certainly aren't getting invited to my next soiree. Not because I'm going to do anything wrong, but just because you're going to bring down the house with bull shit and ruin everyone's good time. Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers.
You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Yeah, he failed to mention that he touched one's tits though. Hey, maybe I'm old fashioned as well but IMO touching another woman like that is over the line...then lying about it just makes it worse. IMO the fiance should seriously consider ejecting. HOLY FUCK?! A tit? SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN!
My wife would have been like "Pics or it didn't happen" My wife expects me to respect her and not touch other women in a sexual way. The rules you and your wife have are up to you- I don't care and I don't judge. That said, I don't think "don't touch other people sexually" is an unreasonable rule. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:44:14 PM EDT
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Stop assuming? He deliberately goes lean on the details and avoids telling his fiancée that there was some hands-on action with the stripper at the party. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that a lot of women aren't going to be OK with that and most of them won't care which color of skin is involved. No wonder so many folks on Arfcom are unprepared for marriage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You don't know what the details are from the third friend nor know of his agenda, nor do I... the only details the OP presented that was that she knew dancers were present as he told her so and he stated that he did not cheat....so please stop assuming. Stop assuming? He deliberately goes lean on the details and avoids telling his fiancée that there was some hands-on action with the stripper at the party. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that a lot of women aren't going to be OK with that and most of them won't care which color of skin is involved. No wonder so many folks on Arfcom are unprepared for marriage. I guess I shouldn't be so shocked that I'm in a minority that thinks touching another woman's tits is wrong...let alone lying about it. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:45:41 PM EDT
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My wife expects me to respect her and not touch other women in a sexual way. The rules you and your wife have are up to you- I don't care and I don't judge. That said, I don't think "don't touch other people sexually" is an unreasonable rule. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers.
You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Yeah, he failed to mention that he touched one's tits though. Hey, maybe I'm old fashioned as well but IMO touching another woman like that is over the line...then lying about it just makes it worse. IMO the fiance should seriously consider ejecting. HOLY FUCK?! A tit? SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN!
My wife would have been like "Pics or it didn't happen" My wife expects me to respect her and not touch other women in a sexual way. The rules you and your wife have are up to you- I don't care and I don't judge. That said, I don't think "don't touch other people sexually" is an unreasonable rule. So would getting a lap dance with no tit touching count as "touching other women in a sexual way"? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:49:25 PM EDT
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So would getting a lap dance with no tit touching count as "touching other women in a sexual way"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers.
You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Yeah, he failed to mention that he touched one's tits though. Hey, maybe I'm old fashioned as well but IMO touching another woman like that is over the line...then lying about it just makes it worse. IMO the fiance should seriously consider ejecting. HOLY FUCK?! A tit? SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN!
My wife would have been like "Pics or it didn't happen" My wife expects me to respect her and not touch other women in a sexual way. The rules you and your wife have are up to you- I don't care and I don't judge. That said, I don't think "don't touch other people sexually" is an unreasonable rule. So would getting a lap dance with no tit touching count as "touching other women in a sexual way"? Is there actual touching? Yes, in my relationship, in my marriage, that would be inappropriate and I would be uncomfortable with it and my wife would be upset if I did it, and I wouldn't blame her. Story time: I tell this not to sound like I think I'm awesome, but just to demonstrate how my marriage works. I was in Alaska in Feb with 4 other Marines on a det. One of the other guys was driving and they wanted to go to a strip club. I'm not a fan as I think it's inappropriate, but I got outvoted. So there we were at the club having a couple drinks. One of my buddies buys me a lap dance and the girl came over. I told her to go dance for my other friend. Yeah, I'm sure you guys think "I'm no fun" or whatever (trust me, that's not the case) but I just have certain boundaries that I will NOT cross. It's worked well for me so far. It's a slippery slope, and I'm proud to say that my wife knows that I hold her and our marriage with the utmost respect. YMMV of course. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:50:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HOLY FUCK?! A tit? SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN! My wife would have been like "Pics or it didn't happen" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we have the holier than Thou types and then the loose cannons here on GD. Some of you really take the story and run with it...where an ass slap or tit in the face turns into a full orgy of banging strippers three at a time...just like my former friend. Personally, half of you can hang with me and the other half are a bunch of Debbie downers that certainly aren't getting invited to my next soiree. Not because I'm going to do anything wrong, but just because you're going to bring down the house with bull shit and ruin everyone's good time. Your fiancée is upset that you've engaged in activities with naked women behind her back, and now it's somehow our fault as well. Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers. You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Yeah, he failed to mention that he touched one's tits though. Hey, maybe I'm old fashioned as well but IMO touching another woman like that is over the line...then lying about it just makes it worse. IMO the fiance should seriously consider ejecting. HOLY FUCK?! A tit? SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN! My wife would have been like "Pics or it didn't happen" And obviously, his fiance feels different. And the fact that he lied to her says that he went in KNOWING it would not be okay with her. Not only did he knowingly cross a boundary that he obviously knew about, he also lied to her after the fact. Nick |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:52:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So would getting a lap dance with no tit touching count as "touching other women in a sexual way"? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Behind her back? OP made it clear fiance knew about the dancers. You just need a couple of busy bodies who wants to bang the fiance apparently to bring down a house. Yeah, he failed to mention that he touched one's tits though. Hey, maybe I'm old fashioned as well but IMO touching another woman like that is over the line...then lying about it just makes it worse. IMO the fiance should seriously consider ejecting. HOLY FUCK?! A tit? SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN! My wife would have been like "Pics or it didn't happen" My wife expects me to respect her and not touch other women in a sexual way. The rules you and your wife have are up to you- I don't care and I don't judge. That said, I don't think "don't touch other people sexually" is an unreasonable rule. So would getting a lap dance with no tit touching count as "touching other women in a sexual way"? Is that even a question? Unless you can get a lap dance w/o a hard on, you know damn good and well it's "sexual touching". Sheesh, the mental gymnastics some of you guys are going through to defend the undefensable. Nick |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:57:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:57:57 PM EDT
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Is there actual touching? Yes, in my relationship, in my marriage, that would be inappropriate and I would be uncomfortable with it and my wife would be upset if I did it, and I wouldn't blame her. Story time: I tell this not to sound like I think I'm awesome, but just to demonstrate how my marriage works. I was in Alaska in Feb with 4 other Marines on a det. One of the other guys was driving and they wanted to go to a strip club. I'm not a fan as I think it's inappropriate, but I got outvoted. So there we were at the club having a couple drinks. One of my buddies buys me a lap dance and the girl came over. I told her to go dance for my other friend. Yeah, I'm sure you guys think "I'm no fun" or whatever (trust me, that's not the case) but I just have certain boundaries that I will NOT cross. It's worked well for me so far. It's a slippery slope, and I'm proud to say that my wife knows that I hold her and our marriage with the utmost respect. YMMV of course. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So would getting a lap dance with no tit touching count as "touching other women in a sexual way"? Is there actual touching? Yes, in my relationship, in my marriage, that would be inappropriate and I would be uncomfortable with it and my wife would be upset if I did it, and I wouldn't blame her. Story time: I tell this not to sound like I think I'm awesome, but just to demonstrate how my marriage works. I was in Alaska in Feb with 4 other Marines on a det. One of the other guys was driving and they wanted to go to a strip club. I'm not a fan as I think it's inappropriate, but I got outvoted. So there we were at the club having a couple drinks. One of my buddies buys me a lap dance and the girl came over. I told her to go dance for my other friend. Yeah, I'm sure you guys think "I'm no fun" or whatever (trust me, that's not the case) but I just have certain boundaries that I will NOT cross. It's worked well for me so far. It's a slippery slope, and I'm proud to say that my wife knows that I hold her and our marriage with the utmost respect. YMMV of course. So I'm guessing you're probably not one of the guys here who thinks that their wife licking whipped cream off a stripper's cock doesn't count as cheating. What about if your wife got a lap dance from a female stripper. Would you consider that cheating? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:00:05 PM EDT
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Is that even a question? Unless you can get a lap dance w/o a hard on, you know damn good and well it's "sexual touching". Sheesh, the mental gymnastics some of you guys are going through to defend the undefensable. Nick Getting a lap dance is "undefensable." 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:02:04 PM EDT
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So I'm guessing you're probably not one of the guys here who thinks that their wife licking whipped cream off a stripper's cock doesn't count as cheating. What about if your wife got a lap dance from a female stripper. Would you consider that cheating? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So would getting a lap dance with no tit touching count as "touching other women in a sexual way"? Is there actual touching? Yes, in my relationship, in my marriage, that would be inappropriate and I would be uncomfortable with it and my wife would be upset if I did it, and I wouldn't blame her. Story time: I tell this not to sound like I think I'm awesome, but just to demonstrate how my marriage works. I was in Alaska in Feb with 4 other Marines on a det. One of the other guys was driving and they wanted to go to a strip club. I'm not a fan as I think it's inappropriate, but I got outvoted. So there we were at the club having a couple drinks. One of my buddies buys me a lap dance and the girl came over. I told her to go dance for my other friend. Yeah, I'm sure you guys think "I'm no fun" or whatever (trust me, that's not the case) but I just have certain boundaries that I will NOT cross. It's worked well for me so far. It's a slippery slope, and I'm proud to say that my wife knows that I hold her and our marriage with the utmost respect. YMMV of course. So I'm guessing you're probably not one of the guys here who thinks that their wife licking whipped cream off a stripper's cock doesn't count as cheating. What about if your wife got a lap dance from a female stripper. Would you consider that cheating? Correct, I'd also be upset if she went to a male strip club, and yes, I'd consider it cheating if she licked whip cream off someone's cock. A female stripper? Ah...I don't know. I haven't thought of it. She's not a lesbian, so it wouldn't "do" anything for her...though I guess that's not really the definition of cheating either is it? Honestly I don't know. I feel like you're trying to "trap" me in some sort of inconsistency, so I'll just be honest and tell you I haven't really considered that scenario very deeply and don't really plan on it since it's a non-issue. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:06:56 PM EDT
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Correct, I'd also be upset if she went to a male strip club, and yes, I'd consider it cheating if she licked whip cream off someone's cock. A female stripper? Ah...I don't know. I haven't thought of it. She's not a lesbian, so it wouldn't "do" anything for her...though I guess that's not really the definition of cheating either is it? Honestly I don't know. I feel like you're trying to "trap" me in some sort of inconsistency, so I'll just be honest and tell you I haven't really considered that scenario very deeply and don't really plan on it since it's a non-issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So would getting a lap dance with no tit touching count as "touching other women in a sexual way"? Is there actual touching? Yes, in my relationship, in my marriage, that would be inappropriate and I would be uncomfortable with it and my wife would be upset if I did it, and I wouldn't blame her. Story time: I tell this not to sound like I think I'm awesome, but just to demonstrate how my marriage works. I was in Alaska in Feb with 4 other Marines on a det. One of the other guys was driving and they wanted to go to a strip club. I'm not a fan as I think it's inappropriate, but I got outvoted. So there we were at the club having a couple drinks. One of my buddies buys me a lap dance and the girl came over. I told her to go dance for my other friend. Yeah, I'm sure you guys think "I'm no fun" or whatever (trust me, that's not the case) but I just have certain boundaries that I will NOT cross. It's worked well for me so far. It's a slippery slope, and I'm proud to say that my wife knows that I hold her and our marriage with the utmost respect. YMMV of course. So I'm guessing you're probably not one of the guys here who thinks that their wife licking whipped cream off a stripper's cock doesn't count as cheating. What about if your wife got a lap dance from a female stripper. Would you consider that cheating? Correct, I'd also be upset if she went to a male strip club, and yes, I'd consider it cheating if she licked whip cream off someone's cock. A female stripper? Ah...I don't know. I haven't thought of it. She's not a lesbian, so it wouldn't "do" anything for her...though I guess that's not really the definition of cheating either is it? Honestly I don't know. I feel like you're trying to "trap" me in some sort of inconsistency, so I'll just be honest and tell you I haven't really considered that scenario very deeply and don't really plan on it since it's a non-issue. Not trying to trap you. Just curious (yea, I'm bored  ).
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:07:37 PM EDT
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Not trying to trap you. Just curious (yea, I'm bored ).
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So would getting a lap dance with no tit touching count as "touching other women in a sexual way"? Is there actual touching? Yes, in my relationship, in my marriage, that would be inappropriate and I would be uncomfortable with it and my wife would be upset if I did it, and I wouldn't blame her. Story time: I tell this not to sound like I think I'm awesome, but just to demonstrate how my marriage works. I was in Alaska in Feb with 4 other Marines on a det. One of the other guys was driving and they wanted to go to a strip club. I'm not a fan as I think it's inappropriate, but I got outvoted. So there we were at the club having a couple drinks. One of my buddies buys me a lap dance and the girl came over. I told her to go dance for my other friend. Yeah, I'm sure you guys think "I'm no fun" or whatever (trust me, that's not the case) but I just have certain boundaries that I will NOT cross. It's worked well for me so far. It's a slippery slope, and I'm proud to say that my wife knows that I hold her and our marriage with the utmost respect. YMMV of course. So I'm guessing you're probably not one of the guys here who thinks that their wife licking whipped cream off a stripper's cock doesn't count as cheating. What about if your wife got a lap dance from a female stripper. Would you consider that cheating? Correct, I'd also be upset if she went to a male strip club, and yes, I'd consider it cheating if she licked whip cream off someone's cock. A female stripper? Ah...I don't know. I haven't thought of it. She's not a lesbian, so it wouldn't "do" anything for her...though I guess that's not really the definition of cheating either is it? Honestly I don't know. I feel like you're trying to "trap" me in some sort of inconsistency, so I'll just be honest and tell you I haven't really considered that scenario very deeply and don't really plan on it since it's a non-issue. Not trying to trap you. Just curious (yea, I'm bored ).
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:08:18 PM EDT
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Bingo. I guess the boundaries are different for each couple (I draw the line at look but don't touch, please). So if Mrs. Delemorte (or whichever other Arfcom missus needs referencing) is cool with a different boundary line, that's between the couple in question. OP didn't have that clarity and probably knew things weren't going to fly with his fiancée. Thus, the lying. Lying about stuff like that will seriously damage the relationship. Probably already has in OP's case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bottom line, as you and your wife have, my wife and I have clearly established boundaries. It's obvious the OP and his fiance never established those, and he made assumptions on what she was okay with that were horrendously wrong. I have a feeling he KNEW it wasn't going to go over well, because he tried to hide it. Which makes it a case of wilfully crossing a boundary that he knew existed. Bingo. I guess the boundaries are different for each couple (I draw the line at look but don't touch, please). So if Mrs. Delemorte (or whichever other Arfcom missus needs referencing) is cool with a different boundary line, that's between the couple in question. OP didn't have that clarity and probably knew things weren't going to fly with his fiancée. Thus, the lying. Lying about stuff like that will seriously damage the relationship. Probably already has in OP's case. This. And when you lie about little things, such as in the OP's case, then someone else comes along lying and says, "He also did XYZ...", it's harder for his fiance to know what the truth actually is... All because of the initial lies... |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:13:30 PM EDT
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You don't know what the details are from the third friend nor know of his agenda, nor do I... the only details the OP presented that was that she knew dancers were present as he told her so and he stated that he did not cheat....so please stop assuming. Stop assuming? He deliberately goes lean on the details and avoids telling his fiancée that there was some hands-on action with the stripper at the party. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that a lot of women aren't going to be OK with that and most of them won't care which color of skin is involved. No wonder so many folks on Arfcom are unprepared for marriage. I guess I shouldn't be so shocked that I'm in a minority that thinks touching another woman's tits is wrong...let alone lying about it. Like I've said before in this thread, suddenly the large number of divorce/crazy woman/no sex threads begins to make sense. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:23:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I've said before in this thread, suddenly the large number of divorce/crazy woman/no sex threads begins to make sense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You don't know what the details are from the third friend nor know of his agenda, nor do I... the only details the OP presented that was that she knew dancers were present as he told her so and he stated that he did not cheat....so please stop assuming. Stop assuming? He deliberately goes lean on the details and avoids telling his fiancée that there was some hands-on action with the stripper at the party. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that a lot of women aren't going to be OK with that and most of them won't care which color of skin is involved. No wonder so many folks on Arfcom are unprepared for marriage. I guess I shouldn't be so shocked that I'm in a minority that thinks touching another woman's tits is wrong...let alone lying about it. Like I've said before in this thread, suddenly the large number of divorce/crazy woman/no sex threads begins to make sense. Well, it's obviously the woman's fault-get with the program! Nick |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:27:09 PM EDT
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This is why I never take the initial "My wife is such a crazy bitch!" post at face value. Here's how those threads usually go.
OP: "My wife is such a psycho jealous bitch!" GD: "Eject eject eject! Hope you got a pre-nup. Call a lawyer and divorce her first!" OP: "Yeah man, all I did was lie to her about copping a feel on a stripper and now she's totally not giving me a blowjob when I ask! Fucking cunt!" |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:31:49 PM EDT
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Really? He made it clear? If he told her all about it, then why was she upset when she got details from a third party? As has been said AD NAUSEAM... the fiance was told that the bachelor left with a stripper and was gone for 45 minutes. We don't know if it is true or not but according to the OP it was not true or was an outright lie. The 3rd party account differs from her fiances account which creates doubt. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:33:06 PM EDT
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This is why I never take the initial "My wife is such a crazy bitch!" post at face value. Here's how those threads usually go. OP: "My wife is such a psycho jealous bitch!" GD: "Eject eject eject! Hope you got a pre-nup. Call a lawyer and divorce her first!" OP: "Yeah man, all I did was lie to her about copping a feel on a stripper and now she's totally not giving me a blowjob when I ask! Fucking cunt!" 
A thread the next day... OP: "My wife/fiancée was at a party with a male stripper and I found out that she played with his cock!" GD: "She's definitely cheating on you. Eject!" OP: "When I confronted her she said that she never did anything more than that." GD: "They're all just gold digging whores. She's only marrying you for your money while she bangs other guys. Don't be a 'beta'." |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:34:24 PM EDT
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As has been said AD NAUSEAM... the fiance was told that the bachelor left with a stripper and was gone for 45 minutes. We don't know if it is true or not but according to the OP it was not true or was an outright lie. The 3rd party account differs from her fiances account which creates doubt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really? He made it clear? If he told her all about it, then why was she upset when she got details from a third party? As has been said AD NAUSEAM... the fiance was told that the bachelor left with a stripper and was gone for 45 minutes. We don't know if it is true or not but according to the OP it was not true or was an outright lie. The 3rd party account differs from her fiances account which creates doubt. Seems amazingly simple to avoid such a problem. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:44:11 PM EDT
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Remove head from ass. Choose better friends.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:54:54 PM EDT
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Really? He made it clear? If he told her all about it, then why was she upset when she got details from a third party? As has been said AD NAUSEAM... the fiance was told that the bachelor left with a stripper and was gone for 45 minutes. We don't know if it is true or not but according to the OP it was not true or was an outright lie. The 3rd party account differs from her fiances account which creates doubt. Seems amazingly simple to avoid such a problem. You seem to be missing the point... Let me give you an example. You go hunting with a buddy. You shoot a deer that you didn't realize was on somebody else's property (right on the property line). The property owner is a nice looking woman and has a not so friendly discussion with you about shooting deer on her property. She threatens to call the game warden. Now you go home and your wife says how was your day. You say ... "We went hunting and I shot a deer." Your wife asks your buddy what happens and he says... "Yeah we were poaching and got caught by some woman, she was hot wanted me bad but I turned her down, oh and your husband disappeared with her for 30 minutes with her. CRAZY !!" How exactly are you supposed to avoid a problem with somebody says you did something that you didn't do? |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:58:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/29/2014 3:59:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:00:27 PM EDT
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You seem to be missing the point... Let me give you an example. You go hunting with a buddy. You shoot a deer that you didn't realize was on somebody else's property (right on the property line). The property owner is a nice looking woman and has a not so friendly discussion with you about shooting deer on her property. She threatens to call the game warden. Now you go home and your wife says how was your day. You say ... "We went hunting and I shot a deer." Your wife asks your buddy what happens and he says... "Yeah we were poaching and got caught by some woman, she was hot wanted me bad but I turned her down, oh and your husband disappeared with her for 30 minutes with her. CRAZY !!" How exactly are you supposed to avoid a problem with somebody says you did something that you didn't do? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems amazingly simple to avoid such a problem. You seem to be missing the point... Let me give you an example. You go hunting with a buddy. You shoot a deer that you didn't realize was on somebody else's property (right on the property line). The property owner is a nice looking woman and has a not so friendly discussion with you about shooting deer on her property. She threatens to call the game warden. Now you go home and your wife says how was your day. You say ... "We went hunting and I shot a deer." Your wife asks your buddy what happens and he says... "Yeah we were poaching and got caught by some woman, she was hot wanted me bad but I turned her down, oh and your husband disappeared with her for 30 minutes with her. CRAZY !!" How exactly are you supposed to avoid a problem with somebody says you did something that you didn't do? Easy. Don't participate in parties with strippers when you're engaged or married. 
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:00:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why I never take the initial "My wife is such a crazy bitch!" post at face value. Here's how those threads usually go. OP: "My wife is such a psycho jealous bitch!" GD: "Eject eject eject! Hope you got a pre-nup. Call a lawyer and divorce her first!" OP: "Yeah man, all I did was lie to her about copping a feel on a stripper and now she's totally not giving me a blowjob when I ask! Fucking cunt!" |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:02:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I missed a page, didn't I? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: To some here their woman licking whipped cream off a stripper's cock doesn't count as cheating, so I doubt getting a lap dance would count. I missed a page, didn't I? Missed a lot of pages and two other threads.  |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:05:34 PM EDT
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This is why I never take the initial "My wife is such a crazy bitch!" post at face value. Here's how those threads usually go. OP: "My wife is such a psycho jealous bitch!" GD: "Eject eject eject! Hope you got a pre-nup. Call a lawyer and divorce her first!" OP: "Yeah man, all I did was lie to her about copping a feel on a stripper and now she's totally not giving me a blowjob when I ask! Fucking cunt!"
A thread the next day... OP: "My wife/fiancée was at a party with a male stripper and I found out that she played with his cock!" GD: "She's definitely cheating on you. Eject!" OP: "When I confronted her she said that she never did anything more than that." GD: "They're all just gold digging whores. She's only marrying you for your money while she bangs other guys. Don't be a 'beta'." My personal favorite is the guy who said how awful and paranoid his wife was, and then like 10 pages later it came out that he was forcing her off her anti-anxiety meds unless he thought she should be allowed to take them. I was mercilessly bashed as a white knighting friend zone beta (even though I'm a married former infantry Marine and have kids, and have no idea who this dude or his wife are) before he revealed that, because I had the temerity to question the initial account. Every thread about women in GD is a great example of confirmation bias. "News story: a woman reported being raped." "GD: obviously the whore is lying and framing that poor man." "News story: a man was arrested for child molestation after his children reported he raped them." "GD: obviously the kids are lying after the poor guy's whore wife told them to so she could get a divorce." And on and on. It's honestly depressing at times. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:06:22 PM EDT
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This is why I never take the initial "My wife is such a crazy bitch!" post at face value. Here's how those threads usually go. OP: "My wife is such a psycho jealous bitch!" GD: "Eject eject eject! Hope you got a pre-nup. Call a lawyer and divorce her first!" OP: "Yeah man, all I did was lie to her about copping a feel on a stripper and now she's totally not giving me a blowjob when I ask! Fucking cunt!"
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:09:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:15:34 PM EDT
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My personal favorite is the guy who said how awful and paranoid his wife was, and then like 10 pages later it came out that he was forcing her off her anti-anxiety meds unless he thought she should be allowed to take them. I was mercilessly bashed as a white knighting friend zone beta (even though I'm a married former infantry Marine and have kids, and have no idea who this dude or his wife are) before he revealed that, because I had the temerity to question the initial account. Every thread about women in GD is a great example of confirmation bias. "News story: a woman reported being raped." "GD: obviously the whore is lying and framing that poor man." "News story: a man was arrested for child molestation after his children reported he raped them." "GD: obviously the kids are lying after the poor guy's whore wife told them to so she could get a divorce." And on and on. It's honestly depressing at times. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is why I never take the initial "My wife is such a crazy bitch!" post at face value. Here's how those threads usually go. OP: "My wife is such a psycho jealous bitch!" GD: "Eject eject eject! Hope you got a pre-nup. Call a lawyer and divorce her first!" OP: "Yeah man, all I did was lie to her about copping a feel on a stripper and now she's totally not giving me a blowjob when I ask! Fucking cunt!"
A thread the next day... OP: "My wife/fiancée was at a party with a male stripper and I found out that she played with his cock!" GD: "She's definitely cheating on you. Eject!" OP: "When I confronted her she said that she never did anything more than that." GD: "They're all just gold digging whores. She's only marrying you for your money while she bangs other guys. Don't be a 'beta'." My personal favorite is the guy who said how awful and paranoid his wife was, and then like 10 pages later it came out that he was forcing her off her anti-anxiety meds unless he thought she should be allowed to take them. I was mercilessly bashed as a white knighting friend zone beta (even though I'm a married former infantry Marine and have kids, and have no idea who this dude or his wife are) before he revealed that, because I had the temerity to question the initial account. Every thread about women in GD is a great example of confirmation bias. "News story: a woman reported being raped." "GD: obviously the whore is lying and framing that poor man." "News story: a man was arrested for child molestation after his children reported he raped them." "GD: obviously the kids are lying after the poor guy's whore wife told them to so she could get a divorce." And on and on. It's honestly depressing at times. You and I argued about something a while back, I don't remember what. Despite the fact that you were wrong about whatever it was, you're an alright guy I suppose.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:16:43 PM EDT
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You seem to be missing the point... Let me give you an example. You go hunting with a buddy. You shoot a deer that you didn't realize was on somebody else's property (right on the property line). The property owner is a nice looking woman and has a not so friendly discussion with you about shooting deer on her property. She threatens to call the game warden. Now you go home and your wife says how was your day. You say ... "We went hunting and I shot a deer." Your wife asks your buddy what happens and he says... "Yeah we were poaching and got caught by some woman, she was hot wanted me bad but I turned her down, oh and your husband disappeared with her for 30 minutes with her. CRAZY !!" How exactly are you supposed to avoid a problem with somebody says you did something that you didn't do? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really? He made it clear? If he told her all about it, then why was she upset when she got details from a third party? As has been said AD NAUSEAM... the fiance was told that the bachelor left with a stripper and was gone for 45 minutes. We don't know if it is true or not but according to the OP it was not true or was an outright lie. The 3rd party account differs from her fiances account which creates doubt. Seems amazingly simple to avoid such a problem. You seem to be missing the point... Let me give you an example. You go hunting with a buddy. You shoot a deer that you didn't realize was on somebody else's property (right on the property line). The property owner is a nice looking woman and has a not so friendly discussion with you about shooting deer on her property. She threatens to call the game warden. Now you go home and your wife says how was your day. You say ... "We went hunting and I shot a deer." Your wife asks your buddy what happens and he says... "Yeah we were poaching and got caught by some woman, she was hot wanted me bad but I turned her down, oh and your husband disappeared with her for 30 minutes with her. CRAZY !!" How exactly are you supposed to avoid a problem with somebody says you did something that you didn't do? Except some of what the friend said was true. Also leaving out details of a hunting trip is a far cry from leaving out details of an encounter with a stripper when you fondle her tits. FFS, that was one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:18:33 PM EDT
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Soooooo OP, single or married? That's all I want to know.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:18:39 PM EDT
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You and I argued about something a while back, I don't remember what. Despite the fact that you were wrong about whatever it was, you're an alright guy I suppose. I honestly can't remember what that fight was about either, but I came to the same conclusion about you in the thread with the fat neckbeard who wouldn't travel anywhere he couldn't open carry a rifle while bladed at 45*. |
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