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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:27:21 AM EDT
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Never been to DU, you? Pathetic attempt to discredit is pathetic. Don't forget to follow the protocol for this kind of thing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, someone might suggest to the author that the next time she is being berged, robbed XYZ, call a crack head instead of a cop. BE THE SOLUTION! *chuckle* An the cops are going to stop the crime? Lmao at your ignorance/hyperbole or both. You'd be lucky to get those lazy bastards to even come out and take a report. Sorry boot lickers, she is mostly correct. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Lots of cop hate, there, Sparky. Ulcers? DU troll Never been to DU, you? Pathetic attempt to discredit is pathetic. Don't forget to follow the protocol for this kind of thing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So, tell us, what were you arrested for? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:29:42 AM EDT
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You're right, I guess the same could be said for a Veteran..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From an email I received last night.... "Today, I will not answer the radio call that your boyfriend has come home drunk and is beating you Today I will not answer the radio call that your 16 year old daughter, who is very responsible, is four hours late coming home from school. Today I will not answer the radio call that your store has been robbed or your house has been burglarized. Today I will not stop a drunk driver from killing someone. I will not catch a rapist or a murderer or a car thief. Today I will not answer the radio call that a man has a gun or tried to abduct a child or that someone has been stabbed or has been in a terrible accident. Today I will not save your child that you locked in a car or the child you were too busy to watch who went outside and fell into the swimming pool, but that I revived. No, today I will not do that. Why? Today, I was suspended from duty for doing my job, because the media, liberals, a community organizer, a lawyer who formally represented terrorists and is the US attorney general and a mayor who ran on an anti-police agenda, who are all advised by a drug dealer, liar and income tax cheat. AND, all who know nothing about Policing, have vilified my profession. Because - Today I was killed by a drunk driver while I was helping push a disabled car off the highway. Today I was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop to simply tell someone that they had a taillight out. Today I was killed in a traffic accident rushing to help a citizen. Today I was shot and killed serving a warrant on a known drug dealer. Today I was killed by a man when I came by to do a welfare check because his family was too busy. Today I was killed trying to stop a bank robbery or a grocery store robbery. Today I was killed doing my job. A chaplain and an officer will go to a house and tell a mom and dad or a wife or husband or a child that their son or daughter or husband or wife or father or mother won’t be coming home today. The flags at many police stations were flown at half-mast today but most people won’t know why. There will be a funeral and my fellow officers will come, a twenty-one-gun salute will be given, and taps will be played as I am laid to rest. My name will be put on a plaque, on a wall, in a building, in a city somewhere. A folded flag will be placed on a mantel or a bookcase in a home somewhere and a family will mourn. There will be no cries for justice. There will be no riots in the streets. There will be no officers marching, screaming "no justice, no peace." No citizens will scream that something must be done. No windows will be smashed, no cars burned, no stones thrown, no names called. Only someone crying themselves to sleep tonight will be the only sign that I was cared about. I was a police officer" All hail the cause of the self sacrificing, uber citizen. If you need to believe that tripe to get through the day, more power to you. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You're right, I guess the same could be said for a Veteran..... Sentimental crap, that is all it is. I never saw my service as anything more than what it was. Trying to make it more noble than what it was is just stupid and weak. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:32:31 AM EDT
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Sentimental crap, that is all it is. I never saw my service as anything more than what it was. Trying to make it more noble than what it was is just stupid and weak. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From an email I received last night.... "Today, I will not answer the radio call that your boyfriend has come home drunk and is beating you Today I will not answer the radio call that your 16 year old daughter, who is very responsible, is four hours late coming home from school. Today I will not answer the radio call that your store has been robbed or your house has been burglarized. Today I will not stop a drunk driver from killing someone. I will not catch a rapist or a murderer or a car thief. Today I will not answer the radio call that a man has a gun or tried to abduct a child or that someone has been stabbed or has been in a terrible accident. Today I will not save your child that you locked in a car or the child you were too busy to watch who went outside and fell into the swimming pool, but that I revived. No, today I will not do that. Why? Today, I was suspended from duty for doing my job, because the media, liberals, a community organizer, a lawyer who formally represented terrorists and is the US attorney general and a mayor who ran on an anti-police agenda, who are all advised by a drug dealer, liar and income tax cheat. AND, all who know nothing about Policing, have vilified my profession. Because - Today I was killed by a drunk driver while I was helping push a disabled car off the highway. Today I was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop to simply tell someone that they had a taillight out. Today I was killed in a traffic accident rushing to help a citizen. Today I was shot and killed serving a warrant on a known drug dealer. Today I was killed by a man when I came by to do a welfare check because his family was too busy. Today I was killed trying to stop a bank robbery or a grocery store robbery. Today I was killed doing my job. A chaplain and an officer will go to a house and tell a mom and dad or a wife or husband or a child that their son or daughter or husband or wife or father or mother won’t be coming home today. The flags at many police stations were flown at half-mast today but most people won’t know why. There will be a funeral and my fellow officers will come, a twenty-one-gun salute will be given, and taps will be played as I am laid to rest. My name will be put on a plaque, on a wall, in a building, in a city somewhere. A folded flag will be placed on a mantel or a bookcase in a home somewhere and a family will mourn. There will be no cries for justice. There will be no riots in the streets. There will be no officers marching, screaming "no justice, no peace." No citizens will scream that something must be done. No windows will be smashed, no cars burned, no stones thrown, no names called. Only someone crying themselves to sleep tonight will be the only sign that I was cared about. I was a police officer" All hail the cause of the self sacrificing, uber citizen. If you need to believe that tripe to get through the day, more power to you. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You're right, I guess the same could be said for a Veteran..... Sentimental crap, that is all it is. I never saw my service as anything more than what it was. Trying to make it more noble than what it was is just stupid and weak. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Are you always this surly in the morning? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:33:45 AM EDT
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I imagine a world without police would suck for the small minority of people who use the majority of public services.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:34:34 AM EDT
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I would call this woman a dumb cunt, but she has neither the warmth or the depth for that particular noun to apply. I bet she's college trained in the social sciences. Her knowledge is so boundless that see could tell a black man in his 70's, who has lived in Mississippi almost all of his life, what it was like to be a oppressed black man in 60's Mississippi. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:35:06 AM EDT
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I imagine a world without police would suck for the small minority of people who use the majority of public services. I'm a member of the small minority that also uses trash pick-up, Fire and EMS, hell, I even have a public library card. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:36:09 AM EDT
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So, tell us, what were you arrested for? Is that the only way you can put things together in your head? You must live quite the one dimensional life. Or is that what they taught you to do when you can't be forthright and direct? Enlighten me, chief. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:36:15 AM EDT
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Sentimental crap, that is all it is. I never saw my service as anything more than what it was. Trying to make it more noble than what it was is just stupid and weak. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Is that why you have a tank under your avatar? No big deal right? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:37:53 AM EDT
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Is that the only way you can put things together in your head? You must live quite the one dimensional life. Or is that what they taught you to do when you can't be forthright and direct? Enlighten me, chief. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, tell us, what were you arrested for? Is that the only way you can put things together in your head? You must live quite the one dimensional life. Or is that what they taught you to do when you can't be forthright and direct? Enlighten me, chief. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Wow, you're sure honked off, I don't remember arresting you, but you're sure upset with me! Are you sure you don't need a hug? |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:38:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you always this surly in the morning? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: From an email I received last night.... "Today, I will not answer the radio call that your boyfriend has come home drunk and is beating you Today I will not answer the radio call that your 16 year old daughter, who is very responsible, is four hours late coming home from school. Today I will not answer the radio call that your store has been robbed or your house has been burglarized. Today I will not stop a drunk driver from killing someone. I will not catch a rapist or a murderer or a car thief. Today I will not answer the radio call that a man has a gun or tried to abduct a child or that someone has been stabbed or has been in a terrible accident. Today I will not save your child that you locked in a car or the child you were too busy to watch who went outside and fell into the swimming pool, but that I revived. No, today I will not do that. Why? Today, I was suspended from duty for doing my job, because the media, liberals, a community organizer, a lawyer who formally represented terrorists and is the US attorney general and a mayor who ran on an anti-police agenda, who are all advised by a drug dealer, liar and income tax cheat. AND, all who know nothing about Policing, have vilified my profession. Because - Today I was killed by a drunk driver while I was helping push a disabled car off the highway. Today I was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop to simply tell someone that they had a taillight out. Today I was killed in a traffic accident rushing to help a citizen. Today I was shot and killed serving a warrant on a known drug dealer. Today I was killed by a man when I came by to do a welfare check because his family was too busy. Today I was killed trying to stop a bank robbery or a grocery store robbery. Today I was killed doing my job. A chaplain and an officer will go to a house and tell a mom and dad or a wife or husband or a child that their son or daughter or husband or wife or father or mother won’t be coming home today. The flags at many police stations were flown at half-mast today but most people won’t know why. There will be a funeral and my fellow officers will come, a twenty-one-gun salute will be given, and taps will be played as I am laid to rest. My name will be put on a plaque, on a wall, in a building, in a city somewhere. A folded flag will be placed on a mantel or a bookcase in a home somewhere and a family will mourn. There will be no cries for justice. There will be no riots in the streets. There will be no officers marching, screaming "no justice, no peace." No citizens will scream that something must be done. No windows will be smashed, no cars burned, no stones thrown, no names called. Only someone crying themselves to sleep tonight will be the only sign that I was cared about. I was a police officer" All hail the cause of the self sacrificing, uber citizen. If you need to believe that tripe to get through the day, more power to you. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You're right, I guess the same could be said for a Veteran..... Sentimental crap, that is all it is. I never saw my service as anything more than what it was. Trying to make it more noble than what it was is just stupid and weak. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Are you always this surly in the morning? Nothing surly about his post. Nothing. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:39:22 AM EDT
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I'm a member of the small minority that also uses trash pick-up, Fire and EMS, hell, I even have a public library card. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I imagine a world without police would suck for the small minority of people who use the majority of public services. I'm a member of the small minority that also uses trash pick-up, Fire and EMS, hell, I even have a public library card. Really you use the majority of EMS and Fire services? What medical condition do you have that requires them to come out so often? Trash can be done by a private company easy enough. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:41:12 AM EDT
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Someone would just fill the power vacuum. The problem isn't the police, it's humanity. Give a person a position of authority with limited oversight and a public image that must be maintained and it doesn't surprise me at all how many of the police act. It's simply human nature. Same with the poor and the rich. This. There would be chaos for a time and then people will get together to create some order and then they will decide that it's a full time job and will elect one or more of their own to do that job. There will always be police in some form, even if that is a volunteer militia or night watch comprised of citizens. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:41:20 AM EDT
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Really you use the majority of EMS and Fire services? What medical condition do you have that requires them to come out so often? Trash can be done by a private company easy enough. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I imagine a world without police would suck for the small minority of people who use the majority of public services. I'm a member of the small minority that also uses trash pick-up, Fire and EMS, hell, I even have a public library card. Really you use the majority of EMS and Fire services? What medical condition do you have that requires them to come out so often? Trash can be done by a private company easy enough. Clearly you've never seen me ice skate. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:42:19 AM EDT
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It isn't necessary to imagine a world without police.
Organized police forces are a recent development in human history, a fact which people would know if they read some. Complex civilizations which included very large cities have existed without police. Other methods of social control worked for those societies. Whether it would be possible for the current society to exist without police will never be known. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:44:44 AM EDT
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Wow, you're sure honked off, I don't remember arresting you, but you're sure upset with me! Are you sure you don't need a hug? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, tell us, what were you arrested for? Is that the only way you can put things together in your head? You must live quite the one dimensional life. Or is that what they taught you to do when you can't be forthright and direct? Enlighten me, chief. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Wow, you're sure honked off, I don't remember arresting you, but you're sure upset with me! Are you sure you don't need a hug? Hugs are nice, but I'm ok, thanks. You have never arrested me. But you are still sucking hind tit at arguing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:46:46 AM EDT
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Hugs are nice, but I'm ok, thanks. You have never arrested me. But you are still sucking hind tit at arguing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, tell us, what were you arrested for? Is that the only way you can put things together in your head? You must live quite the one dimensional life. Or is that what they taught you to do when you can't be forthright and direct? Enlighten me, chief. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Wow, you're sure honked off, I don't remember arresting you, but you're sure upset with me! Are you sure you don't need a hug? Hugs are nice, but I'm ok, thanks. You have never arrested me. But you are still sucking hind tit at arguing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm pretty sure I haven't. And no, you're the only one arguing. I am being entertained by the hothead replying to me (A part well played by you). |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:50:33 AM EDT
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Is that why you have a tank under your avatar? No big deal right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sentimental crap, that is all it is. I never saw my service as anything more than what it was. Trying to make it more noble than what it was is just stupid and weak. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Is that why you have a tank under your avatar? No big deal right? It's not really, being in the military doesn't make you an awesome person by default. Neither does being a LEO, or a firefighter, or any other job. Some people who do those jobs are pretty awesome, some are massive shit heads. Either way pretty much none of them are self sacrificing paragons of altruism, even though some hold themselves out to be, and would love to be perceived that way. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:54:28 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure I haven't. And no, you're the only one arguing. I am being entertained by the hothead replying to me (A part well played by you). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, tell us, what were you arrested for? Is that the only way you can put things together in your head? You must live quite the one dimensional life. Or is that what they taught you to do when you can't be forthright and direct? Enlighten me, chief. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Wow, you're sure honked off, I don't remember arresting you, but you're sure upset with me! Are you sure you don't need a hug? Hugs are nice, but I'm ok, thanks. You have never arrested me. But you are still sucking hind tit at arguing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm pretty sure I haven't. And no, you're the only one arguing. I am being entertained by the hothead replying to me (A part well played by you). Can't or won't? This is your big chance to show your jbt moral superiority. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:55:04 AM EDT
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I can only assume that a lot of people in this thread don't realise how recent the idea of police is. The first government police didn't happen until mid 1700s in England. Prior to that, if someone assaulted you, robbed you, etc. then you (and your friends) tracked him down and took him to court. You both presented your cases and the judge made a decision. Cities made this harder since there was a good chance you wouldn't know the criminal. People pooled funds to employ watchmen who would try to catch them in the act. Bounty hunters (often ex criminals) could locate your criminal for a fee. Some large cities started using public funds to pay for watchmen in the 1700s. Regulation of watchmen and bounty hunters would eventually become police. Laws, courts and prisons existed for centuries without police. TL;DR police is a city thing, everyone else was would be fine without them. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:55:40 AM EDT
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Shit, missed.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:56:34 AM EDT
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I'd lik to see law enforcement pull out of the cities, wall them off, and let the animals have at it. The resulting carnage would be the enema our cities so desperately need.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 8:56:54 AM EDT
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Can't or won't? This is your big chance to show your jbt moral superiority. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You're having a stroke, aren't you, Sparky? 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:00:55 AM EDT
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I imagine a world without police would suck for the small minority of people who use the majority of public services. I'm a member of the small minority that also uses trash pick-up, Fire and EMS, hell, I even have a public library card. Really you use the majority of EMS and Fire services? What medical condition do you have that requires them to come out so often? Trash can be done by a private company easy enough. Clearly you've never seen me ice skate. Since the majority of the population does not ice skate and of the subset of people who do ice skate, only an even smaller population within that subset requires the assistance of EMS. We can conclude that would put you in the ...minority |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:01:46 AM EDT
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Can't or won't? This is your big chance to show your jbt moral superiority. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You're having a stroke, aren't you, Sparky? Just projecting my hate for the TSA on to the world. Angry white man is pretty useless unless he is angry. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:03:45 AM EDT
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Just projecting my hate for the TSA on to the world. Angry white man is pretty useless unless he is angry. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't or won't? This is your big chance to show your jbt moral superiority. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You're having a stroke, aren't you, Sparky? Just projecting my hate for the TSA on to the world. Angry white man is pretty useless unless he is angry. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well, hell! Why didn't you say so in the first place? TSA blows goats! |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:03:58 AM EDT
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We would die of predation from the then unchecked dog population. I had to read this three times. I thought dog was a euphemism but then I got the joke 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:04:28 AM EDT
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Is that the only way you can put things together in your head? You must live quite the one dimensional life. Or is that what they taught you to do when you can't be forthright and direct? Enlighten me, chief. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, tell us, what were you arrested for? Is that the only way you can put things together in your head? You must live quite the one dimensional life. Or is that what they taught you to do when you can't be forthright and direct? Enlighten me, chief. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So edgy and cool. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:06:14 AM EDT
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We would die of predation from the then unchecked dog population. I had to read this three times. I thought dog was a euphemism but then I got the joke You just now caught that?  That was a good one too!
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:07:00 AM EDT
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There are 2 extremes here.
1) Unlimited state power (police power) 2) No police While we don't want either case, we do need some way to combat problems that arise. To do that, we need to have people who can deal with those misbehaving individuals. Problem being that IMHO, police powers at the moment are way too expansive. Too many laws. To many possession charges vs. charges of harm done. Too much legislation and enforcement of morals rather than prohibition on actions which factually harm others (rather than just offend their sensibilities). |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:09:30 AM EDT
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Ancient Rome had no police. Citizens were expected to police themselves, and they did. Crime was quite rare, although there was frequent violence by our standards for other reasons. The Vigiles Urbani frown on your knowledge of Roman history. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:10:33 AM EDT
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there...she can move right there...
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:10:36 AM EDT
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I think 48 hours should be sufficient (hell, in some departments (LAPD, NYPD), 48 MINUTES might suffice)... During the '77 blackout, the looting in NYC started within an hour of the lights going out. 48 hours without cops and you'd need the military to restore order. Another thing I think the author of that piece hasn't taken into account is just how much of society fucking hates her and the shitbirds whose cause she champions, and how fuckung sick a lot of people are of their shit. Without the police to stop it, a lot of folks might just get the idea that the time has come to clean house. It would make "The Purge" look like a Disney film. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:13:06 AM EDT
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Just as I was going to dinner last night a DV call went out, arrested a just got out prison guy who wanted to bow up with me in the booking room.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:13:07 AM EDT
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There are 2 extremes here. 1) Unlimited state power (police power) 2) No police While we don't want either case, we do need some way to combat problems that arise. To do that, we need to have people who can deal with those misbehaving individuals. Problem being that IMHO, police powers at the moment are way too expansive. Too many laws. To many possession charges vs. charges of harm done. Too much legislation and enforcement of morals rather than prohibition on actions which factually harm others (rather than just offend their sensibilities). True, we do need people who can deal with said persons, but yes, I absolutely believe our society is over legislated, there are many laws that have no business being laws, there is oft (Not always) a failure of police oversight, with modern communications, a story travels fast, we're a well informed society. I largely believe that there are far more GOOD cops that we don't hear about, and we don't hear about them because they are not acting in a manner contradictory to the public trust, in which we vest them. The bad ones, stick out, they might as well be strobes and sirens all by themselves. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:13:31 AM EDT
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I would say that the author of that editorial needs to take John Lennon - Imagine off of loop and put down the boxed wine, but she appears to be a true believer.
“Within the capitalist system, property is often valued over black life. So there was a lot in the media about looting and rioting and white businesses being broken into and it was all detraction from the death of Michael Brown.” - Claire Van Fossen That being said, she looks a lot like Megan Fox if you do a google image search. Would probably smash if she brought over a 6 pack of a good brown ale and STFU. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:14:12 AM EDT
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I think 48 hours should be sufficient (hell, in some departments (LAPD, NYPD), 48 MINUTES might suffice)... During the '77 blackout, the looting in NYC started within an hour of the lights going out. 48 hours without cops and you'd need the military to restore order. Oh wow, and even then... |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:14:59 AM EDT
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It isn't necessary to imagine a world without police. Organized police forces are a recent development in human history, a fact which people would know if they read some. Complex civilizations which included very large cities have existed without police. Other methods of social control worked for those societies. Whether it would be possible for the current society to exist without police will never be known. Yes, the Chinese only had organized law enforcement as recently as 770 B.C., and the Greeks in 430 B.C. Pretty dang new. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:17:24 AM EDT
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So, tell us, what were you arrested for? Is that the only way you can put things together in your head? You must live quite the one dimensional life. Or is that what they taught you to do when you can't be forthright and direct? Enlighten me, chief. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So edgy and cool. That's the best you have? You almost hurt the feelings of one of my fingernail clippings. Lol, go back to bed junior. Just for you. Go put some more polish on your boots. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:19:13 AM EDT
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True, we do need people who can deal with said persons, but yes, I absolutely believe our society is over legislated, there are many laws that have no business being laws, there is oft (Not always) a failure of police oversight, with modern communications, a story travels fast, we're a well informed society. I largely believe that there are far more GOOD cops that we don't hear about, and we don't hear about them because they are not acting in a manner contradictory to the public trust, in which we vest them. The bad ones, stick out, they might as well be strobes and sirens all by themselves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are 2 extremes here. 1) Unlimited state power (police power) 2) No police While we don't want either case, we do need some way to combat problems that arise. To do that, we need to have people who can deal with those misbehaving individuals. Problem being that IMHO, police powers at the moment are way too expansive. Too many laws. To many possession charges vs. charges of harm done. Too much legislation and enforcement of morals rather than prohibition on actions which factually harm others (rather than just offend their sensibilities). True, we do need people who can deal with said persons, but yes, I absolutely believe our society is over legislated, there are many laws that have no business being laws, there is oft (Not always) a failure of police oversight, with modern communications, a story travels fast, we're a well informed society. I largely believe that there are far more GOOD cops that we don't hear about, and we don't hear about them because they are not acting in a manner contradictory to the public trust, in which we vest them. The bad ones, stick out, they might as well be strobes and sirens all by themselves. I will agree that there are more good cops than there are bad. I'm not necessarily talking about good vs bad cops......because either it's legal for them to act or it's not....and the good ones color inside of the lines. What I'm trying to say is that we, as a society, need to stop thinking cops/laws/government/prohibition on possession vs prohibition on an act that created an actual victim (that isn't just the government/moral) are the solution to every single ill out there. Prevent people from harming others. But when it comes to buying alcohol on Sunday, owning a gun, choosing my own healthcare path, buying drugs from Canada for less $, etc...that's not a proper use of government power. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:20:50 AM EDT
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I think 48 hours should be sufficient (hell, in some departments (LAPD, NYPD), 48 MINUTES might suffice)... During the '77 blackout, the looting in NYC started within an hour of the lights going out. 48 hours without cops and you'd need the military to restore order. Oh wow, and even then... The area where I worked in Brooklyn would turn into the Bakara Market before the week was out. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:20:50 AM EDT
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She has a point, this would work in a civilized society.
Unfortunately there is a good portion of our society that is not civilized. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:22:26 AM EDT
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And in that order it makes no sense. After the murder it's no longer rape, Just necrophilia... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Imagine a world of rape, murder, arson, and rape. In other words, Detroit. By the way, you said rape twice. And in that order it makes no sense. After the murder it's no longer rape, Just necrophilia... W/ the arson, at least it's a warm body. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:23:41 AM EDT
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She has a point, this would work in a civilized society. Unfortunately there is a good portion of our society that is not civilized. A good portion, define a good portion? It is the minority of the population that takes up the majority of LE's assets. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:24:12 AM EDT
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By blaming “crime” and “criminals” instead of systemic oppression for society’s ills, the police exacerbate societal problems, harm citizens, and bar the people from liberation by maintaining the capitalist social order.
By not accepting personal responsibility for your own actions you're free to do whatever evil to whomever you want. I have now learned that "barring the people from liberation by maintaining the capitalist social order" decodes into allowing local entrepreneurs to sell drugs on the streets. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:25:45 AM EDT
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“Most of our communities already exist without policing. Most of our human interactions are already outside of the purview of police officers…Most social relationships between people do not require police intervention.” Most communities decodes to those of the middle and upper class - not the barrio or ghettos of the FSA. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:28:42 AM EDT
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And girls ... if you continue swinging purses you'll get all the attention you're looking for ...
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:29:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First thing I do is pile up sand bags on the roof and establish a 1000 yard "no soliciting/no loitering" zone around my house Think of all the free reactive targets. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:32:04 AM EDT
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Hi, my name is Quick. I'm male, white and privileged.
I'm going to open up with this at the next opportunity when introductions are required. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:36:14 AM EDT
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Well, I'll be damned. "irreprehensible" is actually in the dictionary.
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:36:57 AM EDT
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Another thing I think the author of that piece hasn't taken into account is just how much of society fucking hates her and the shitbirds whose cause she champions, and how fuckung sick a lot of people are of their shit. People like this author have ensconced themselves in such a complete echo-chamber that they can't really tell their college liberal fantasy-land from reality any longer. Even after reality gives them a thorough and unsolicited dicking, there's an even chance that they'll still be able to hold their bizarro world-view together. Remember that dumb liberal broad that went to Haiti after the quake and got raped six ways from sunday? She was so empathetic for her poor oppressed rapists that she was blaming her own white privilege for all the black dick she had rammed in her. When faced with the real world consequences of their own post-modern idiocy, often these 'tards would rather double-down on stupidity rather than admit what a fucking dumbass they've been. |
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