We are generally in agreement. We do need to get past the notion that, because .gov is doing things that are outside the scope of what Joe Citizen cares about, .gov is not acting in the general best interests of the populace. I don't buy that there is an interest in using data on Americans outside of where it intersects with their mission as defined. Where it does intersect, there are standards and procedures that dictate how it is handled.

As a side note, compartmentalization goes to shit when policy is violated and credentials are shared. Not enough information available to determine whether that was the sole factor. The physical security lapse is another angle which has not been reported on.

I think he probably stole a lot of classified stuff, including military planning info.

You're speaking spy novel gibberish.

Just a week ago, Russians intercepted phone calls between our Ukrainian AMB and senior state department officials.  Rather than continuing to quietly collect from this source of info, they put the call out on YouTube.  They do what they do based on circumstances and how they can benefit.  

On the one hand, the Snowden lovers insist that he couldn't have been working for Russia, because there's no hard evidence.
They also claim that there's no evidence of Russian tradecraft.  That's just dumb.

Link and proof that it was a Russian intercept.

Try to stay more current.  

So it didn't happen.

It happened.  I'm driving right now and can't do a simple search for you.

Do a search for "fuck the EU"

This shit is so damn important to you that you post whilst driving...



Found it, and even though it's an interesting sidebar it doesn't prove anything WRT Snowden.

Obviously not, or I would have replied before heading out on the road... it proves that your assumptions regarding Russian tradecraft are flawed.  The Russians are pragmatic, if nothing else.


Wikileaks and Russian Intelligence have been cooperating throughout this whole episode. He'll, they even gave Assange his own TV show.

Wikileaks is an organization largely devoted to convincing useful idiot Americans to steal classified data, and give it to them so they can make it public.

Russia would be foolish to not make every effort to leverage such an enterprise.  Which apparently, they have.

Wikileaks has NEVER leaked a Russian document or email.  Not a one.

It's amazing how people are willing to blind themselves to something so obvious.

Snowden didn't use wikileaks.

Snowden was 100% facilitated by Wikileaks, and by Wikileaks comrades (Greenwald).  

He now resides in Russia with a KGB lawyer and Wikileaks advisor always at his side, FSB. "Minders" always present.

Why is it that Wikileaks is now always there?  In Russia.



No one is so naive as to not see what is really going on here.  A Wikileaks advisor?  There at the safe house, with the FSB?

Wake up.