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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:30:43 PM EDT
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DUI Should be a capital offense I know right!!! Fuck the guy that decided to have a third glass of wine, but his pasta sucked so he didn't finish it and ended up over the legal limit with a "dim license plate light". You know what else should be a Capitol offense? Fucking stupidity and piss ignorant asshats that prefer to regulate the living pubic hair off of everything that SOMETIMES is a totally victimless crime and an honest mistake. Fucking fuck. Eta: Fuck iPhones too I don't know about all of that, but I was 12 years old when I watched my 10 year old cousin get ran over and killed by a drunk driver. We were playing in his front yard and his mom was on the front porch and saw the whole thing go down. You can stop with the "victimless crime" and "honest mistake" bullshit. The fact is all DUI fatalities are preventable if "piss ignorant asshats" would stay off the fucking road after drinking.. There's a big difference between someone too drunk to stand up and someone who blows a .085. You paint with a broad brush. Regardless, I'm sorry for your loss. Do you have any sense of the level of impairment generally associated with a 0.085? Do I know what it's like to be impaired 1/1000th more than the .gov says is ok to operate a motor vehicle? Oh lawdy lawdy no. Please sir, enlighten me. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:30:51 PM EDT
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I wonder if any of the "DUI should be a capital offense" people have ever driven while tired?
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:31:19 PM EDT
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DUI will get your 2A rights revoked in MA.  So a constitutional guaranteed right is taken away because someone drives ( a privilege) drunk, yet they can still drive after they get their license back. That's fucked up |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:32:07 PM EDT
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Was the crime he was convicted of punishable by more than one year of imprisonment? If yes, then he is federally prohibited. Your state may also have further or more strict/specific regulations as well. That's the issue in MA. 1st DUI is a misdemeanor but the statutory maximum sentence is >1yr. Almost nobody gets that, or anything remotely close to that, but the state law triggers the federal prohibition. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:32:28 PM EDT
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Deep breathes folks. No one needs to get a timeout or warning arguing about a DUI.
I believe we should use the death penalty as a nation way more often than we do now, But just like with killing someone, there are different circumstances behind each and every DUI which is why not every case is going to be handled the same way. Someone who barely blows above the legal limit who is clearly not impaired is not the same as the 60 year old who has committed his 15th DUI in his life of which he has been in multiple accidents also over the years under the influence. The first person doesn't deserve to be sentenced to death especially when the evidence shows he was not impaired. Yes the law states he should be punished. The second person should have been put down long before getting charged his 15th DUI though that is for damn sure. Just remember those anti-gun folks out there want to use the worst cases involving a firearm to justify taking them away from everyone. This is no different than arguing about any subject that has folks on both sides who believe strongly in their beliefs. I lost twin cousins to a drunk driver when I was 9. The women who was drunk had a history of DUIs and should have been put to death after the first 5 or so DUIs in which she clearly had learned nothing from and had no intention of changing her ways. Yet this doesn't mean everyone who gets charged with one should be put to death without knowing the entire story behind the charge. OP if you feel the person is a responsible adult who can handle the firearm in question and is not legally excluded from purchasing a firearm then yes sell the gun. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:33:10 PM EDT
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DUI Should be a capital offense The last person who would have in fact killed me quite fucking dead if I hadn't seen what she was about to do was some blonde-permed soccer bitch who's phone call was far more important than checking to see that she wasn't pulling out in front of 5mph highway traffic. Pure selfishness & negligence, far more so than someone who has 3 beers and drives a mile and half home at 35mph. Want to impress me, Billy Badass? Call for summary execution of dumb bitches who blatantly violate the rules of the road and rely on other people to avoid their stupidity. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:33:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know about all of that, but I was 12 years old when I watched my 10 year old cousin get ran over and killed by a drunk driver. We were playing in his front yard and his mom was on the front porch and saw the whole thing go down. You can stop with the "victimless crime" and "honest mistake" bullshit. The fact is all DUI fatalities are preventable if "piss ignorant asshats" would stay off the fucking road after drinking.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: DUI Should be a capital offense I know right!!! Fuck the guy that decided to have a third glass of wine, but his pasta sucked so he didn't finish it and ended up over the legal limit with a "dim license plate light". You know what else should be a Capitol offense? Fucking stupidity and piss ignorant asshats that prefer to regulate the living pubic hair off of everything that SOMETIMES is a totally victimless crime and an honest mistake. Fucking fuck. Eta: Fuck iPhones too I don't know about all of that, but I was 12 years old when I watched my 10 year old cousin get ran over and killed by a drunk driver. We were playing in his front yard and his mom was on the front porch and saw the whole thing go down. You can stop with the "victimless crime" and "honest mistake" bullshit. The fact is all DUI fatalities are preventable if "piss ignorant asshats" would stay off the fucking road after drinking.. I'm not being a DUI apologist but not all DUI's result in accidents/fatalities. Most such arrests are bullshit. Flame on if you must. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:35:41 PM EDT
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The last person who would have in fact killed me quite fucking dead if I hadn't seen what she was about to do was some blonde-permed soccer bitch who's phone call was far more important than checking to see that she wasn't pulling out in front of 5mph highway traffic. Pure selfishness & negligence, far more so than someone who has 3 beers and drives a mile and half home at 35mph. Want to impress me, Billy Badass? Call for summary execution of dumb bitches who blatantly violate the rules of the road and rely on other people to avoid their stupidity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DUI Should be a capital offense The last person who would have in fact killed me quite fucking dead if I hadn't seen what she was about to do was some blonde-permed soccer bitch who's phone call was far more important than checking to see that she wasn't pulling out in front of 5mph highway traffic. Pure selfishness & negligence, far more so than someone who has 3 beers and drives a mile and half home at 35mph. Want to impress me, Billy Badass? Call for summary execution of dumb bitches who blatantly violate the rules of the road and rely on other people to avoid their stupidity. I can fap to this post. Nothing I hate more than blonde permed soccer bitches on the phone.. Well besides drunk drivers. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:37:19 PM EDT
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The last person who would have in fact killed me quite fucking dead if I hadn't seen what she was about to do was some blonde-permed soccer bitch who's phone call was far more important than checking to see that she wasn't pulling out in front of 5mph highway traffic. Pure selfishness & negligence, far more so than someone who has 3 beers and drives a mile and half home at 35mph. Want to impress me, Billy Badass? Call for summary execution of dumb bitches who blatantly violate the rules of the road and rely on other people to avoid their stupidity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DUI Should be a capital offense The last person who would have in fact killed me quite fucking dead if I hadn't seen what she was about to do was some blonde-permed soccer bitch who's phone call was far more important than checking to see that she wasn't pulling out in front of 5mph highway traffic. Pure selfishness & negligence, far more so than someone who has 3 beers and drives a mile and half home at 35mph. Want to impress me, Billy Badass? Call for summary execution of dumb bitches who blatantly violate the rules of the road and rely on other people to avoid their stupidity. 
This guy fucking gets it. DWI shouldn't even be illegal. It's already illegal to run red lights, run stop signs, run someone over, etc. Whether someone runs a child over while completely sober or completely drunk should be irrelevant. What they actually do is what should be relevant, not the amount of alcohol in their blood while doing it. I've had close friends and family members killed by drunk drivers. I'll reiterate: DWI should be perfectly legal. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:42:34 PM EDT
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I'm not being a DUI apologist but not all DUI's result in accidents/fatalities. Most such arrests are bullshit. Flame on if you must. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DUI Should be a capital offense I know right!!! Fuck the guy that decided to have a third glass of wine, but his pasta sucked so he didn't finish it and ended up over the legal limit with a "dim license plate light". You know what else should be a Capitol offense? Fucking stupidity and piss ignorant asshats that prefer to regulate the living pubic hair off of everything that SOMETIMES is a totally victimless crime and an honest mistake. Fucking fuck. Eta: Fuck iPhones too I don't know about all of that, but I was 12 years old when I watched my 10 year old cousin get ran over and killed by a drunk driver. We were playing in his front yard and his mom was on the front porch and saw the whole thing go down. You can stop with the "victimless crime" and "honest mistake" bullshit. The fact is all DUI fatalities are preventable if "piss ignorant asshats" would stay off the fucking road after drinking.. I'm not being a DUI apologist but not all DUI's result in accidents/fatalities. Most such arrests are bullshit. Flame on if you must. I agree with you. The capitol offence bit is absurd as well, but so is this "victimless crime and "honest mistake" bullshit. I'm not flaming anyone, just pointing out that not all DUIs arrest are bullshit. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:43:17 PM EDT
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A case could be made that someone convicted of a DUI was (and is) a prohibited person, and so unable to legally buy a firearm. I'd look into how the BATFE considers such people, and in any event route the transaction through an FFL. No you can't make the case unless it was a felony DUI. A misdemeanor is a misdemeanor. The only misdemeanor that makes you a prohibited person is domestic violence. While DUI is stupid, unless its a felony DUI generally due to multiple offenses or injury you are not a prohibited person. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:45:40 PM EDT
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That's the issue in MA. 1st DUI is a misdemeanor but the statutory maximum sentence is >1yr. Almost nobody gets that, or anything remotely close to that, but the state law triggers the federal prohibition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was the crime he was convicted of punishable by more than one year of imprisonment? If yes, then he is federally prohibited. Your state may also have further or more strict/specific regulations as well. That's the issue in MA. 1st DUI is a misdemeanor but the statutory maximum sentence is >1yr. Almost nobody gets that, or anything remotely close to that, but the state law triggers the federal prohibition. No that isn't it. If you read the instructions on the dealer side of the 4473, or the actual law you will see where it specifically exempts misdemeanor that are punishable up to 2 years. Unless a misdemeanor is punishable by over two years in Massachusetts, it doesn't trigger the federal prohibition. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:48:33 PM EDT
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Was the crime he was convicted of punishable by more than one year of imprisonment? If yes, then he is federally prohibited. Your state may also have further or more strict/specific regulations as well. 48 hours community service is what he got Sentence received is not relevant, only what the sentencing guidelines dictate |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:49:57 PM EDT
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Was it a Felony DUI? I was under the impressions every DUI is a felony Nope. Well he drank over a holiday weekend and a cop woke him up in his car in a ditch Unless he hit and seriously injured/killed someone on his way into the ditch, or caused some ridiculous amount of property damage, it's probably not going to be a felony (unless you have some weird, fucked up state laws). ETA: For possible weird, fucked up state laws. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:54:25 PM EDT
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I agree with you. The capitol offence bit is absurd as well, but so is this "victimless crime and "honest mistake" bullshit. I'm not flaming anyone, just pointing out that not all DUIs arrest are bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DUI Should be a capital offense I know right!!! Fuck the guy that decided to have a third glass of wine, but his pasta sucked so he didn't finish it and ended up over the legal limit with a "dim license plate light". You know what else should be a Capitol offense? Fucking stupidity and piss ignorant asshats that prefer to regulate the living pubic hair off of everything that SOMETIMES is a totally victimless crime and an honest mistake. Fucking fuck. Eta: Fuck iPhones too I don't know about all of that, but I was 12 years old when I watched my 10 year old cousin get ran over and killed by a drunk driver. We were playing in his front yard and his mom was on the front porch and saw the whole thing go down. You can stop with the "victimless crime" and "honest mistake" bullshit. The fact is all DUI fatalities are preventable if "piss ignorant asshats" would stay off the fucking road after drinking.. I'm not being a DUI apologist but not all DUI's result in accidents/fatalities. Most such arrests are bullshit. Flame on if you must. I agree with you. The capitol offence bit is absurd as well, but so is this "victimless crime and "honest mistake" bullshit. I'm not flaming anyone, just pointing out that not all DUIs arrest are bullshit. I said sometimes it is victimless. I also stand by saying that sometimes it is an honest mistake. take a veteran recently home from deployment. He stops by a bar and has 4 beers and then heads home. Should it really be a Capitol offense if he gets pulled over? I'm sorry but that's insane. Furthermore, I'd venture to say that the majority of DUI's are for far less than .09. Some should be excused. Many are not. Disclaimer: I've never had a dui, DWI, or any alcohol related offense, other than PI (which is a whole other soap box). |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:54:31 PM EDT
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No that isn't it. If you read the instructions on the dealer side of the 4473, or the actual law you will see where it specifically exempts misdemeanor that are punishable up to 2 years. Unless a misdemeanor is punishable by over two years in Massachusetts, it doesn't trigger the federal prohibition. http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa408/Y8ber/100_9638_zpsrbkmizze.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was the crime he was convicted of punishable by more than one year of imprisonment? If yes, then he is federally prohibited. Your state may also have further or more strict/specific regulations as well. That's the issue in MA. 1st DUI is a misdemeanor but the statutory maximum sentence is >1yr. Almost nobody gets that, or anything remotely close to that, but the state law triggers the federal prohibition. No that isn't it. If you read the instructions on the dealer side of the 4473, or the actual law you will see where it specifically exempts misdemeanor that are punishable up to 2 years. Unless a misdemeanor is punishable by over two years in Massachusetts, it doesn't trigger the federal prohibition. http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa408/Y8ber/100_9638_zpsrbkmizze.jpg You're right. MA's max sentence for "run of the mill" DUI 1st is 2.5 years. Thus triggering the federal prohibition. The situation is unique to MA, AFAIK. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:58:44 PM EDT
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I know right!!! Fuck the guy that decided to have a third glass of wine, but his pasta sucked so he didn't finish it and ended up over the legal limit with a "dim license plate light". You know what else should be a Capitol offense? Fucking stupidity and piss ignorant asshats that prefer to regulate the living pubic hair off of everything that SOMETIMES is a totally victimless crime and an honest mistake. Fucking fuck. Eta: Fuck iPhones too Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DUI Should be a capital offense I know right!!! Fuck the guy that decided to have a third glass of wine, but his pasta sucked so he didn't finish it and ended up over the legal limit with a "dim license plate light". You know what else should be a Capitol offense? Fucking stupidity and piss ignorant asshats that prefer to regulate the living pubic hair off of everything that SOMETIMES is a totally victimless crime and an honest mistake. Fucking fuck. Eta: Fuck iPhones too Uhhhhh, no. I won't go as far as saying drunk drivers should be executed on the spot, but there is no such thing as an "honest mistake" when it comes to drunk driving. Unless you are mentally retarded, you are fully capable of understanding (roughly) how many alcoholic beverages an average human of a given size can drink in a given amount of time while staying under the legal limit. If that simple, somewhat not so perfect math is too much for you, there is always the option of not drinking any alcoholic beverages if you know you're going to be driving. Whether you think so or not, there are some things that should NOT be allowed in our society, whether you deem them to be completely "victimless" or not. I could walk outside into my driveway and wildly empty a full magazine out of my AR-15 and going by your criteria, so long as nobody is hit and nobody's property is damaged, I should be good to go. It's simply not logical. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:59:54 PM EDT
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No that isn't it. If you read the instructions on the dealer side of the 4473, or the actual law you will see where it specifically exempts misdemeanor that are punishable up to 2 years. Unless a misdemeanor is punishable by over two years in Massachusetts, it doesn't trigger the federal prohibition. http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa408/Y8ber/100_9638_zpsrbkmizze.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was the crime he was convicted of punishable by more than one year of imprisonment? If yes, then he is federally prohibited. Your state may also have further or more strict/specific regulations as well. That's the issue in MA. 1st DUI is a misdemeanor but the statutory maximum sentence is >1yr. Almost nobody gets that, or anything remotely close to that, but the state law triggers the federal prohibition. No that isn't it. If you read the instructions on the dealer side of the 4473, or the actual law you will see where it specifically exempts misdemeanor that are punishable up to 2 years. Unless a misdemeanor is punishable by over two years in Massachusetts, it doesn't trigger the federal prohibition. http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa408/Y8ber/100_9638_zpsrbkmizze.jpg That is interesting. Reading 922(d) I don't see any exemption for the state level 2 year thing. A skim/search of the rest of 922 shows nothing either. Where in the USC is this exemption? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922 Eta:found it in 921. Definition of "crime punishable by more than one year"' . Only the government could decide that the definition of that does not include state level misdemeanors punishable by up to two years. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:00:52 AM EDT
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Do you see how easy it would be to substitute your anti alcohol rhetoric with anti gun shit? Sincerely, I am very sorry for your loss. I just don't see how you condemn something like that and make it a Capitol offense. You would permantly condemn a man who had a shitty day at work, a fight with his wife, and then found out he was paying more in taxes than he thought, simply because he had 4 beers instead of 3 and his BAC was over an arbitrary number chosen by elected officials? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DUI Should be a capital offense I know right!!! Fuck the guy that decided to have a third glass of wine, but his pasta sucked so he didn't finish it and ended up over the legal limit with a "dim license plate light". You know what else should be a Capitol offense? Fucking stupidity and piss ignorant asshats that prefer to regulate the living pubic hair off of everything that SOMETIMES is a totally victimless crime and an honest mistake. Fucking fuck. Eta: Fuck iPhones too I lost my brother to a drunk driver many years ago. Last year I myself was hospitalized by a drunk driver and if my daughter were still in the back seat who I just dropped off at day care would have been dead no doubt. Drunk drivers can get fucked. I drink its not hard to call a fucking cab or setup a Uber. Do you see how easy it would be to substitute your anti alcohol rhetoric with anti gun shit? Sincerely, I am very sorry for your loss. I just don't see how you condemn something like that and make it a Capitol offense. You would permantly condemn a man who had a shitty day at work, a fight with his wife, and then found out he was paying more in taxes than he thought, simply because he had 4 beers instead of 3 and his BAC was over an arbitrary number chosen by elected officials? Considering the RKBA is enshrined in the BOR yet operating a motor vehicle while under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol is not, your argument is fucking retarded. You should feel bad. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:01:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:06:52 AM EDT
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I said sometimes it is victimless. I also stand by saying that sometimes it is an honest mistake. take a veteran recently home from deployment. He stops by a bar and has 4 beers and then heads home. Should it really be a Capitol offense if he gets pulled over? I'm sorry but that's insane. Furthermore, I'd venture to say that the majority of DUI's are for far less than .09. Some should be excused. Many are not. Disclaimer: I've never had a dui, DWI, or any alcohol related offense, other than PI (which is a whole other soap box). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know right!!! Fuck the guy that decided to have a third glass of wine, but his pasta sucked so he didn't finish it and ended up over the legal limit with a "dim license plate light". You know what else should be a Capitol offense? Fucking stupidity and piss ignorant asshats that prefer to regulate the living pubic hair off of everything that SOMETIMES is a totally victimless crime and an honest mistake. Fucking fuck. Eta: Fuck iPhones too I don't know about all of that, but I was 12 years old when I watched my 10 year old cousin get ran over and killed by a drunk driver. We were playing in his front yard and his mom was on the front porch and saw the whole thing go down. You can stop with the "victimless crime" and "honest mistake" bullshit. The fact is all DUI fatalities are preventable if "piss ignorant asshats" would stay off the fucking road after drinking.. I'm not being a DUI apologist but not all DUI's result in accidents/fatalities. Most such arrests are bullshit. Flame on if you must. I agree with you. The capitol offence bit is absurd as well, but so is this "victimless crime and "honest mistake" bullshit. I'm not flaming anyone, just pointing out that not all DUIs arrest are bullshit. I said sometimes it is victimless. I also stand by saying that sometimes it is an honest mistake. take a veteran recently home from deployment. He stops by a bar and has 4 beers and then heads home. Should it really be a Capitol offense if he gets pulled over? I'm sorry but that's insane. Furthermore, I'd venture to say that the majority of DUI's are for far less than .09. Some should be excused. Many are not. Disclaimer: I've never had a dui, DWI, or any alcohol related offense, other than PI (which is a whole other soap box). My personal experience contradicts that statement. Anecdotal, I know, but the vast majority of DUI's I've worked were over .10. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:07:12 AM EDT
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This guy fucking gets it. DWI shouldn't even be illegal. It's already illegal to run red lights, run stop signs, run someone over, etc. Whether someone runs a child over while completely sober or completely drunk should be irrelevant. What they actually do is what should be relevant, not the amount of alcohol in their blood while doing it. I've had close friends and family members killed by drunk drivers. I'll reiterate: DWI should be perfectly legal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DUI Should be a capital offense The last person who would have in fact killed me quite fucking dead if I hadn't seen what she was about to do was some blonde-permed soccer bitch who's phone call was far more important than checking to see that she wasn't pulling out in front of 5mph highway traffic. Pure selfishness & negligence, far more so than someone who has 3 beers and drives a mile and half home at 35mph. Want to impress me, Billy Badass? Call for summary execution of dumb bitches who blatantly violate the rules of the road and rely on other people to avoid their stupidity.
This guy fucking gets it. DWI shouldn't even be illegal. It's already illegal to run red lights, run stop signs, run someone over, etc. Whether someone runs a child over while completely sober or completely drunk should be irrelevant. What they actually do is what should be relevant, not the amount of alcohol in their blood while doing it. I've had close friends and family members killed by drunk drivers. I'll reiterate: DWI should be perfectly legal. You get it too.
Now that we've said this, in before the "Oh so people can fire a gun in a crowded street and it's okay as long as no one gets hurt?" argument. 
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:07:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:18:37 AM EDT
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I said sometimes it is victimless. I also stand by saying that sometimes it is an honest mistake. take a veteran recently home from deployment. He stops by a bar and has 4 beers and then heads home. Should it really be a Capitol offense if he gets pulled over? I'm sorry but that's insane. Furthermore, I'd venture to say that the majority of DUI's are for far less than .09. Some should be excused. Many are not. Disclaimer: I've never had a dui, DWI, or any alcohol related offense, other than PI (which is a whole other soap box). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did you even read the post you quoted??? I clearly stated I thought the capitol offence bit was absurd. As for your scenario, I couldn't give a fuck less what happened to that dude if he got pulled over. Play stupid games and all of that. Sorry about the fucked up post, quote blocks and all that. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:19:00 AM EDT
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DUI Should be a capital offense The last person who would have in fact killed me quite fucking dead if I hadn't seen what she was about to do was some blonde-permed soccer bitch who's phone call was far more important than checking to see that she wasn't pulling out in front of 5mph highway traffic. Pure selfishness & negligence, far more so than someone who has 3 beers and drives a mile and half home at 35mph. Want to impress me, Billy Badass? Call for summary execution of dumb bitches who blatantly violate the rules of the road and rely on other people to avoid their stupidity.
This guy fucking gets it. DWI shouldn't even be illegal. It's already illegal to run red lights, run stop signs, run someone over, etc. Whether someone runs a child over while completely sober or completely drunk should be irrelevant. What they actually do is what should be relevant, not the amount of alcohol in their blood while doing it. I've had close friends and family members killed by drunk drivers. I'll reiterate: DWI should be perfectly legal. You get it too.
Now that we've said this, in before the "Oh so people can fire a gun in a crowded street and it's okay as long as no one gets hurt?" argument. That "argument" is formed using the same exact logic that the "DUI should be legal" crowd uses when making their arguments. Shooting people is already illegal, right? Destroying/damaging someone else's property is already illegal, right? If that's the case, why should there need to be a law telling me where and in what manner I should be able to discharge a firearm? |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:19:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:28:07 AM EDT
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Was the crime he was convicted of punishable by more than one year of imprisonment? If yes, then he is federally prohibited. Your state may also have further or more strict/specific regulations as well. That's the issue in MA. 1st DUI is a misdemeanor but the statutory maximum sentence is >1yr. Almost nobody gets that, or anything remotely close to that, but the state law triggers the federal prohibition. No that isn't it. If you read the instructions on the dealer side of the 4473, or the actual law you will see where it specifically exempts misdemeanor that are punishable up to 2 years. Unless a misdemeanor is punishable by over two years in Massachusetts, it doesn't trigger the federal prohibition. http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa408/Y8ber/100_9638_zpsrbkmizze.jpg You're right. MA's max sentence for "run of the mill" DUI 1st is 2.5 years. Thus triggering the federal prohibition. The situation is unique to MA, AFAIK. That is an unusual penalty, 2.5 years for first offense DUI but yeah I guess that would be why you'd trigger the prohibition. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:53:57 AM EDT
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Wow my Thead is derailed big time
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:54:59 AM EDT
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Do you feel like trusting a deadly weapon to somebody who can't even show enough judgement not to get behind the wheel when they're fucking plastered? Because if something goes wrong, that could come back to you in court in a civil suit. 
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Posted: 2/13/2016 1:00:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2016 1:03:38 AM EDT
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Wow my Thead is derailed big time Yeah, sorry. Anyways, I think the general consensus is (so long as your state doesn't have any fucked up gun laws and this is his first offense) that you should be good to go.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 1:14:24 AM EDT
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Wow my Thead is derailed big time Yeah, sorry. Anyways, I think the general consensus is (so long as your state doesn't have any fucked up gun laws and this is his first offense) that you should be good to go.We are in utah |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 1:30:39 AM EDT
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I lost my brother to a drunk driver many years ago. Last year I myself was hospitalized by a drunk driver and if my daughter were still in the back seat who I just dropped off at day care would have been dead no doubt. Drunk drivers can get fucked. I drink its not hard to call a fucking cab or setup a Uber. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DUI Should be a capital offense I know right!!! Fuck the guy that decided to have a third glass of wine, but his pasta sucked so he didn't finish it and ended up over the legal limit with a "dim license plate light". You know what else should be a Capitol offense? Fucking stupidity and piss ignorant asshats that prefer to regulate the living pubic hair off of everything that SOMETIMES is a totally victimless crime and an honest mistake. Fucking fuck. Eta: Fuck iPhones too I lost my brother to a drunk driver many years ago. Last year I myself was hospitalized by a drunk driver and if my daughter were still in the back seat who I just dropped off at day care would have been dead no doubt. Drunk drivers can get fucked. I drink its not hard to call a fucking cab or setup a Uber. I don't mean to encourage drinking and driving, but where I'm from there is no Uber or Cabs. Not for 75+ miles. Just a lot of small towns and gravel roads. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:53:41 AM EDT
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A misdemeanor is a misdemeanor. The only misdemeanor that makes you a prohibited person is domestic violence. Not exactly..... |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 5:06:46 AM EDT
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Do you feel like trusting a deadly weapon to somebody who can't even show enough judgement not to get behind the wheel when they're fucking plastered? Because if something goes wrong, that could come back to you in court in a civil suit. So the DUI I had in 1983 disqualifies me. at least you have your knives.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 5:07:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2016 5:50:16 AM EDT
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Was it a Felony DUI? I was under the impressions every DUI is a felony And you would be WRONG ! ! ! 
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Posted: 2/13/2016 8:10:41 AM EDT
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DUI Should be a capital offense The last person who would have in fact killed me quite fucking dead if I hadn't seen what she was about to do was some blonde-permed soccer bitch who's phone call was far more important than checking to see that she wasn't pulling out in front of 5mph highway traffic. Pure selfishness & negligence, far more so than someone who has 3 beers and drives a mile and half home at 35mph. Want to impress me, Billy Badass? Call for summary execution of dumb bitches who blatantly violate the rules of the road and rely on other people to avoid their stupidity. I can fap to this post. Nothing I hate more than blonde permed soccer bitches on the phone.. Well besides drunk drivers. where do you stand with regards to carnies and their big hands? |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:32:32 PM EDT
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Was it a Felony DUI? I was under the impressions every DUI is a felony Check your local laws. IN michigan third offense is a felony. J- |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:38:22 PM EDT
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I got charged with a dui once. Bought my first can not even a year later. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:41:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:53:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well he drank over a holiday weekend and a cop woke him up in his car in a ditch Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Was it a Felony DUI? I was under the impressions every DUI is a felony Nope. Well he drank over a holiday weekend and a cop woke him up in his car in a ditch So, he not only drove drunk but drove so drunk he passed out while driving and went off the road and didn't even know it. Thats a lot different than having a couple of beers and getting stopped at a DUI checkpoint and getting busted. Everyone is entitled to make a mistake but his behaviour seems a little over the top. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:56:38 PM EDT
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I'm going with distracted driving should be the death penalty.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:59:36 PM EDT
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I'm going with distracted driving should be the death penalty. You know cell phones or fatigue/ Physics doesn't care about the laws of men. I say this as someone who forgot to put the rear landing leg down on a single axle trailer this afternoon.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 11:03:23 PM EDT
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When in doubt.......you could always do the transfer through an FFL w/ the background check and the other paperwork stuff.
As others have pointed out. If you have multiple convictions for DUI, you could be a felon. Then....... In some states......upon a DUI conviction, you have to go through an evaluation by a professional. You know, to see how dependent you are on the stuff. Which could lead to a disqualification, due to your "mental state." Aloha, Mark |
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