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Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:06:10 AM EDT
[#1]
H&Ks head is probably about to explode all over a patent attorney
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:10:55 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Quoted:
its a dupe

1/11/13
http://youtu.be/Ml28BphAkSQ


OK, fuck that.  That is a weapon solely designed for the government to use against The People.


they do have an Pistol version  may be for civilian use ??
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:16:10 AM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:17:35 AM EDT
[#4]
Bleh. That thing is foooogly.

I'm sure it works just fine but damn if it didn't fall out of the Kathy Griffin tree and hit every branch on the way down.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:20:14 AM EDT
[#5]
Hell.
No.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:24:11 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
its a dupe

1/11/13
http://youtu.be/Ml28BphAkSQ


OK, fuck that.  That is a weapon solely designed for the government to use against The People.


they do have an Pistol version  may be for civilian use ??


or the abortion looking one with the muzzle brake longer than the barrel.

cut it, crown it, sbr it, and suppress it.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:24:33 AM EDT
[#7]
Do not want.

If I were going for a sub gun,  I'd just use an MP5.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:25:13 AM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

its a dupe



1/11/13

http://youtu.be/Ml28BphAkSQ




OK, fuck that.  That is a weapon solely designed for the government to use against The People.




And you would be correct on that. Their website says Govt./LE sales only.


The full auto version I'm sure, but why would they make a 16" version and pistol version of not to market them to civilian sales?

 
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:27:30 AM EDT
[#9]
too easy

take a look at the front forearm

2 pieces

make it a sbr very easily. i would definitely buy this and make it a sbr.

make it a semi auto and we have a win
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:29:28 AM EDT
[#10]
I like it.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:29:38 AM EDT
[#11]
I can't believe SIG has the guts to release that C model.  That's really a thumb in the eye of the ATF.  Serious balls!  Way to go, SIG!
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:48:31 AM EDT
[#12]
Delayed blowback/rotating bolt?! Oh hell yes I'll be all over that! No port noise with a suppressor.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:54:41 AM EDT
[#13]
Very clever of you, Sig.






So all I will need is to fab up some clamshells, a tube, and a stamp, correct?  Am I missing anything?

 
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 7:58:08 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Delayed blowback/rotating bolt?! Oh hell yes I'll be all over that! No port noise with a suppressor.


It's gas operated.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:01:37 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
its a dupe

1/11/13
http://youtu.be/Ml28BphAkSQ


OK, fuck that.  That is a weapon solely designed for the government to use against The People.


they do have an Pistol version  may be for civilian use ??


or the abortion looking one with the muzzle brake longer than the barrel.

cut it, crown it, sbr it, and suppress it.


very true
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:09:14 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
The brake looks like a suppressor core.


SHHHH!
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:10:32 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
What the fuck is the point of a brake like that on such a low recoiling gun?

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LoL, you guys could reach into a barrel full of pussy and pull out an asshole.

Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:13:56 AM EDT
[#18]
I'm very, very interested.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:19:40 AM EDT
[#19]
Nice copy of a MP5.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:20:11 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Nice copy of a MP5.


Not even close.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:21:53 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:


LoL, you guys could reach into a barrel full of pussy and pull out an asshole.



awesome
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:26:45 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
its a dupe

1/11/13
http://youtu.be/Ml28BphAkSQ


Okay. . . at the 2:40 mark--WTF is NATO mud?
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:28:04 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
They need a semi-auto 6.5" pistol version. Hopefully they will add that to the line up.


My understanding is that one will be released with the rest.  If the stock/end plate are an easy swap that would be the ticket for SBRing.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:37:31 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What the fuck is the point of a brake like that on such a low recoiling gun?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


LoL, you guys could reach into a barrel full of pussy and pull out an asshole.



Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:39:43 AM EDT
[#25]
Pricing?
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 8:54:05 AM EDT
[#26]
whoah



proprietary mags probably?
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 9:03:38 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
whoah

proprietary mags probably?


Looks to be. Sig likes to designs their own mags as evident by the 55X series not originally being designed for STANAG. A version designed for Sten mags would be nice though. Still at the cost of MP5, 9mm Colt or UZI mags the price should be comparable.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 9:06:58 AM EDT
[#28]
I don't even want to know how much that is going to go for on Gun Broker
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 9:24:47 AM EDT
[#29]
I guess I've reserve judgement until I see one in person and they've been tested a bit in the real world. Looks moderately intruiging.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 9:25:16 AM EDT
[#30]
I'd be in for one or two.  I've wanted a 9mm pdw  for years without the magblock and special parts crap, and all the mp5 clones seem to be hit/miss and done by small companies likely to disappear when the owner takes a long weekend in Vegas. I had
an SW5 14 years ago and sold it unfired because it didn't come with a mag, and I was offered almost double what I paid for it. I wish I still had it. This, IMO, fills a nice niche in the home defense/vehicle defense market. I'd personally feel better running one of these or another standard cap 9mm mid lenght vs an SBR'd 556.

And NATO mud?

Nasty Ass Turd Omelet?

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Link Posted: 1/15/2013 9:45:28 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Delayed blowback/rotating bolt?! Oh hell yes I'll be all over that! No port noise with a suppressor.

It's gas operated.

Even better!

Link Posted: 1/15/2013 10:33:52 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
The brake looks like a suppressor core.


Wonder why?












Link Posted: 1/15/2013 11:37:59 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What the fuck is the point of a brake like that on such a low recoiling gun?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


LoL, you guys could reach into a barrel full of pussy and pull out an asshole.



Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:05:24 PM EDT
[#34]
if that C model hits the street, I'll get one and F1 a sleeve for the "brake"
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:08:10 PM EDT
[#35]
Damn, I kind of like it.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:09:08 PM EDT
[#36]
Why does LE get to have full auto?
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:11:06 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Pricing?


I'll take one as long as it isn't priced like the current MP5 market.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:14:02 PM EDT
[#38]
i like it, especially the last one
 
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:15:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Why does LE get to have full auto?


Dept. "Owns" the guns.  An exemption that needs to be removed.  Cops should be subject to what ever laws we tax livestock are subject to.

Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:18:24 PM EDT
[#40]
Just in time for the revolution.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:25:08 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I'm going to have to get one


Yep. I want a S/A suppressed model. With 5.56 ammo being scarce, and prices not likely to drop anytime soon, this is the answer to a PDW.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:27:49 PM EDT
[#42]
how much?
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:40:54 PM EDT
[#43]
Just held one at SHOT.

Think of it like a mini gas piston ar in 9/40/357 sig

Completely ambidextrous controls.

Quick change barrel. Barrels for thread on or integral suppressed cans made by sig.

Pistol version available and has a short picatinny rail where a stock could be attached when sbr'd.

Very nice rail options available too.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:53:21 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Just held one at SHOT.

Think of it like a mini gas piston ar in 9/40/357 sig

Completely ambidextrous controls.

Quick change barrel. Barrels for thread on or integral suppressed cans made by sig.

Pistol version available and has a short picatinny rail where a stock could be attached when sbr'd.

Very nice rail options available too.


Do you know if they are making a semi-auto with a permanently attached suppressor making the barrel 16"?

Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:54:48 PM EDT
[#45]
Carbine Integral Silencer Kit (NFA restricted) listed under the accessory system.


How much and where do I order?
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 12:55:46 PM EDT
[#46]
I think they were inspired by this guy.
 
 
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 1:01:07 PM EDT
[#47]
do want!
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 1:03:17 PM EDT
[#48]




Quoted:

Do not want.



If I were going for a sub gun, I'd just use an MP5.




OK.  Buy a brand new MP5.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 1:05:09 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Why does LE get to have full auto?


The 1986 FOPA.
Link Posted: 1/15/2013 1:07:21 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Carbine Integral Silencer Kit (NFA restricted) listed under the accessory system.


Where do see that listed?
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