Or, "Ushering Hildabitch into the White House."

This is more of an election through than running McCain against Obama. Good luck with reforming that shit from within.
I can't tell the R's form the D's any more and I won't vote for either.

Unless they run Scott Walker. He's earned my vote despite the party.

Only because they are leaving out Captain Walker

worked for Nixon

 

Walker would make an excellent candidate... He is a great conservative, and a great leader...

But the list should also include Brewer and Haley...

Romney isn't running. His wife is dying. She has said he isn't running and *he* has repeatedly said he isn't running. His money and influence are important. And I like the game he is playing with the liberal media...

Because you haven't been paying attention or just repeating the same old worn-out crap.

Romney isn't running again.

Nixon's wife wasn't dying... Nixon's life didn't revolve around his family...

No way they'd let Mittens run again.  Wash outs are washed out.

Jindal / Rice 2016

Mia Love beating a Democrat over a seat that has traditionally been a Democrat seat was a huge gain for Republicans... And she tells-it-how-it is...

Walker, Brewer, Haley... Among a large crop of *excellent* conservatives...

You are correct... Anyone who can *honestly* say that they cannot tell a R from a D lately...

Anyone who says... With Love, Chaffetz, Brewer, Haley, Walker, etc... On *our* side-of-the-line... Has not been paying attention lately... Things are looking good for conservatives...

I'm quoting this only because it's the shortest response I've seen you make in this thread.  Which would also be longer than anything I've ever posted here.

I don't know if I would call his wild success in the marketplace a (your words) "washout." I don't know if that is a term I would use for someone so wildly professionally successful in the open free market...

It is good to see Romney constantly attacking Democrats and constantly attacking Obama in the media.

That is good to see.

Far from anything and anyone I would refer to as a "washout."

He could afford to retire to his own private island somewhere... Instead he is helping fund conservative tickets, and issues, and constantly and consistently attacking Democrats and Obama in the media.

He has a media persona, an influence and appeal to many potential voters, and he is using it to promote conservative issues and candidates.

He stumped hard for Mia Love in Utah. He pulled all the stops to help get her elected... He put his own money where his mouth is to get conservatives elected...

I do not think I could call someone who played a vital role in helping push and promote conservative candidates and issues a (your words) "washout."

He could be relaxing on his own beach somewhere relaxing. Instead he is financing and supporting issues and candidates *you* claim to support.

I can give $20 bucks to a candidate. *He* can turn the tides of an entire race...

I guess I can get a little long-winded...

Did the remaining 54% go to Ted Cruz?

"learn from your mistakes"

Hell, I hope so.

Holy shit, I didn't know Karl Rove was a member here.

Here's a little pro-tip for the "But but but electable!" crowd. If Candidate A is loathed and reviled by the majority of the base of your political party, and you need to expend huge amounts of effort to explain why they shouldn't hate him then he's probably not electable.

Romney signed state mandated healthcare, Romney signed a gun ban, Romney flip flopped on abortion and a number of other important points. You can post dictionaries worth of moral equivocation and character references from his family and friends to try to explain all that away, and hell you'd probably even be right in some cases. But elections are decided by two things: the base getting fired up about a person and turning out strongly, and low information voters who break for the more likeable candidate. Mittens had a record that, regardless of the spin machine, made large sections of the base hate him; and all of the charisma and likeability of a potted plant that a homeless guy took a shit on.

I would bet large amounts of money that Mittens won't be running in 2016. But the lessons that 2012 taught us are invaluable, and all of the former Romney campaign volunteers desperately trying to ret-con why he got smoked so bad are ignoring those lessons.

What are you driving at? Are you thinking Romney is running again...?-?

Who would of rather had? Retard Santorum? Philanderer Gingrich?

Gingrich wrote several *nationwide* gun bans himself... Gingrich *wrote* the original mandate law as a lobbyist for the insurance companies...

Romney isn't running again. He just helps far-right conservatives like Mia Love get elected now... Keep the Democrats pissed... Good for him...

The truth... Romney, with all his faults, was better than the alternatives... And he argued against socialism, and argued for conservative ideals effectively during the campaign...

Perfect? Nope. Lost against a media-popular, unopposed incumbant... Reagan beat Carter, but Carter had been opposed by Kennedy... Beating an unopposed incumbant is impossible, given the statistics...

Romney, faults and all, did good to keep the retard and the philanderer off the ticket. He debated well, presented conservative ideals well, and argued against socialism against a media-popular incumbant... All *good* things...

And... At the end of the day, he was better than the alternatives... Faults and all...

All Romney is doing now is fighting to get far-right conservatives elected... Ask Love, Chafftez, or any other die-hard conservative *currently* --in the fight-- where they go if they need help getting money or volunteers... Turns out it's the same guy you don't seem to have anything good to say about..

Dude. Take Romney's cock out of your mouth, read my whole post, and stop your bullshit editing of the quote.

I explicitly stated that I don't believe that Mittens will run again, said that some of the tired arguments you trotted out again are valid, and in the last paragraph explained exactly why I brought it up.

We get it, you love Romney like a schoolgirl loves Justin Bieber and YouTube retards love Buck Yeager. Cool, good for you. But don't fucking deceptively edit my quoted post as an excuse to crap out your tired hagiography.

Easy now... Keep your shots above-the-belt...




I did read your whole post... Do you want a whole quote tree... I didn't edit your quote... Those are *your* words from *your* post...




OK... So we agree on some stuff, disagree on other points... He was the best we had at the time... The alternatives sucked worse than he did...




Nope... Honestly trying to have an honest discussion...

Why the insults... Are you really that insecure in your position that you need to call-names?-?

Good grief...

The alternatives to Romney were a decades-in-Washington retard and a decades-in-Washington philanderer. Both of whom had supported multiple ***nationwide*** gun-bans.... And the philanderer had been a key-player in promoting *two* nationwide gun bans...

Why the insults...

I am just trying to put-forth facts...



I didn't "deceptively edit" your post. That is a dumb comment. Seriously. Everyone can read what you wrote, and I didn't want to do what I did in this post... Create a post-tree... I didn't add any words or punctuation to your posts... Here is your statement from your post: "Mittens had a record that, regardless of the spin machine, made large sections of the base hate him."

That is what *you* wrote... It pretty much summed-up your post, I thought...

I didn't add any words or punctuation to your posts... Romney may have very well had a record that included raising his ar-15 owning boys rightly, teaching them to shoot, fighting Unions, leading a far-right religion etc. And that may certainly make some folks hate him...

My point is that with all of Romney's faults, folks on the right need to remember: he kept the retard and the philanderer off the ticket. And when he was on the ticket, he worked hard to represent us all with grace and professionalism befitting the Office of President...

Perfect? Not in a million years... Better than the alternatives? Absolutely...

And... I had to look up what "hagiography" meant...

juni4ling: I'm insulting you because you are annoying. That's a position I am %100 secure in.

You snipped one tiny bit of my post, and then asked a bunch of feigned outrage questions (which I had already answered in the part you removed) as an excuse to write more gushing love sonnets to Romney.

We'll see how he responds to the poll which shows that Darth Vader is more popular that Romney, or any other Name-Drop RINO.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/27/darth-vader-is-polling-higher-than-all-potential-2016-presidential-candidates-2/

Romney is a Mormon and thus is clearly the best man for the job.

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Great.

Now we'll get a 1000 word post on why Romney is Better than Darth Vader................

You are giving me far, far too much credit...

I honestly thought this was an honest discussion...

Your inability to participate in an honest discussion without name-calling reflects more on you than it does me...

"Look at me, I call names more, I call names more. That means I take my position more-serious than the other guy..."

Not trying to annoy anyone... Just trying to have an honest back-and-forth. Just because I do not swear, point fingers, call names, etc... Does not mean I don't take my position seriously...



I put in the part of your post that I thought summed-up your intent of your thought...

Then I responded to that...

I can do this to everything you post, if that is your goal...



I don't know... I thought my position was well-stated...

It was interesting to read your position on Romney... While leaving-out that --with all of Romneys faults-- he *did* keep some really, really, really bad Republicans off the ticket against Obama...

You can gush in your disdain for Romney...

It is interesting to see that he *did* represent conservative ideals with grace, poise, and power... When the alternatives would never have done that... That was my point...



Just trying to have an honest fact-based discussion... Seriously.

There is plenty of disdain for Romney's efforts to keep Obama from the Oval Office... Or the honest life he lived leading up to that...

Meh.

He won the Primary against some awful, awful guys was my point... All the awful stuff Romney did to try to keep Obama from winning makes a lot of folks mad...

Romney's current effort to fight to get far-right conservatives makes a lot of people mad... That is going-on right now... There is reason for liberal Democrats to hate Romney right now...

I am comfortable in my position... Honestly.

Just trying to have an honest back-and-forth... Honestly.

Not a very good example...Just saying.

The Republican Primary pretty-much came down to three... Romney..

And Retard Santorum, and philanderer Gingrich.

I will pick the former (lay) leader in the LDS Church, over the career-politicians. I would do it all over again if it were tomorrow... Given the choice of those three...



"Perfect" sometimes isn't a choice... But given Romney's NRA endorsement, pro-business, anti-union, anti-immigration, pro-free-market background... Romney was the *best* choice...

"Perfect" simply does not exist in reality. It exists in a fairy land with unicorns, singing rainbows, and an electable Barry Goldwater...

Nobody asked him to be perfect. We did ask him to run a modern campaign, complete with some modern media savvy and a ground game. IMO, he didn't even show evidence that he even recognized what a modern campaign entails. The result, as we all found out: "Romney! In a LANDSLIDE!"