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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:05:16 AM EDT
[#1]
You'd think they'd at least allow them to go back two deep.
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:05:19 AM EDT
[#2]
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It is acceptable. The key is the default load for the system, not a limiting factor. So you can create a nested quote tree or sub quotes to your heart's content. I tried to clean up some of the code fragments too which cause DIVs to be stuck and screw things up. Quoting should be clean, quick, and easy now. YAY! Those divs were annoying. A default of 2 or 3 quotes should be acceptable, as that should be plenty to give context. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:05:45 AM EDT
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Thanks a bunch for this. As an aside that's how I'm described on Angie's List. 
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:05:59 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you need a massive quote tree to know the context of the quote, you are not reading the thread Most people here don't (or can't, I'm not sure sometimes) actually read threads. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:05:59 AM EDT
[#5]
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I'm open to ideas. What I did for now is add that little button next to the quote, which jumps to the quoted thread and so on down the road. This way you can follow it until you grow tired, or have seen the entire quote tree exchange. If this isn't enough, I thought of potentially recreating the "sub thread" as a popup div that creates a linear post history revolving around that quote tree. The only issue there is you can follow one branch at a time. Still, this may be a cool way to jump into a thread that has 4-5 conversations going on and follow each one on their own. I think 3 maximum quotes will be better than 1. This way you can keep track of things easier. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:06:30 AM EDT
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well? |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:07:17 AM EDT
[#7]
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I'm open to ideas. What I did for now is add that little button next to the quote, which jumps to the quoted thread and so on down the road. This way you can follow it until you grow tired, or have seen the entire quote tree exchange. If this isn't enough, I thought of potentially recreating the "sub thread" as a popup div that creates a linear post history revolving around that quote tree. The only issue there is you can follow one branch at a time. Still, this may be a cool way to jump into a thread that has 4-5 conversations going on and follow each one on their own. The only desirement I'd have on the matter is for older quotes to just be hidden like the spoiler tag. While it wouldn't save bandwidth it would keep the thread more readable and still give the option to see the context. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:07:36 AM EDT
[#8]
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I'm open to ideas. What I did for now is add that little button next to the quote, which jumps to the quoted thread and so on down the road. This way you can follow it until you grow tired, or have seen the entire quote tree exchange. If this isn't enough, I thought of potentially recreating the "sub thread" as a popup div that creates a linear post history revolving around that quote tree. The only issue there is you can follow one branch at a time. Still, this may be a cool way to jump into a thread that has 4-5 conversations going on and follow each one on their own. Can I just say, this will really suck if you get sent back to a page with a lot of pictures. You'll load in to the right spot, then the pictures start to load, then you're god knows where. I would much prefer the quotes after the two or three newest ones to be collapsed like a spoiler. Then the context is there, you don't lose your place in the thread (like you do now which is a major pain in the ass), and a lot of time those "sub conversations" are somewhat related so it's nice to see them in the context of the thread as a whole. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:07:37 AM EDT
[#9]
I don't like it.
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:07:42 AM EDT
[#10]
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hmmm Dang. I thought I cracked the code. 
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:08:22 AM EDT
[#11]
Look fellas, if it saves just one tree, we have the obligation to at least try.
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:08:25 AM EDT
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I think we need four levels before requiring the jump, otherwise you lose the relevant context. OTOH, I guess they're not hard to build manually, if that's going to be deemed acceptable use. Yes it is err difficult.
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:09:37 AM EDT
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The context of a thread is the entire thread, not some massive quote tree. If you need a massive quote tree to know the context of the quote, you are not reading the thread, and are still missing out on most of the context. If you need more context, just click the black box with white arrow next to the quote name, it will take you to the quoted post. except in the last quote tree thread. Where mods and staff lost the context of something that was said less than two posts ago and took off on a tangent. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:09:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: probably go insane clicking obscenely small little arrows trying to follow a chain of thought back through a thread to find out who insulted who's mother. That is what "Link to this post" is for.  |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:11:56 AM EDT
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That is what "Link to this post" is for.
how does that do anything but give you your current place in the thread? |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:11:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:13:48 AM EDT
[#17]
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hmmm test |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:14:20 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm open to ideas. What I did for now is add that little button next to the quote, which jumps to the quoted thread and so on down the road. This way you can follow it until you grow tired, or have seen the entire quote tree exchange. If this isn't enough, I thought of potentially recreating the "sub thread" as a popup div that creates a linear post history revolving around that quote tree. The only issue there is you can follow one branch at a time. Still, this may be a cool way to jump into a thread that has 4-5 conversations going on and follow each one on their own. Ideas? OK A while ago when I would reply to a thread, the page would load fine, and I would see my post. I would scroll down to see other posts. Then I would refresh, and I would see the new posts. Now, when I refresh after scrolling down, it would take me back up the page to my post. This is quite irritating. Also, if I had quoted someone, or hit reply without being at the bottom of the page, when I would refresh after posting, it would take my back to where I hit the "post" or "quote" button at. The only way to remedy this is to re-enter the thread from another page. After doing this, the page will refresh and go to where I had scrolled to. Another idea: instead of limiting a tree to 1 quote, let it go back to 2 or 3 max. Or even better, perhaps set an option on our profile page where we can set how many quotes deep to see. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:14:51 AM EDT
[#19]
Tree or beanstalk? Jack dropped a bean.  (I'll edit this out in about 5min)
EDITED BY DYEZAK - to remove quote tree. Sorry Staff! |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:16:51 AM EDT
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yup its working worked. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:17:37 AM EDT
[#21]
If it could be set to allow two quotes rather than one by default, I think that would be better.
Two is often required for context, but more than that only rarely.
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:18:03 AM EDT
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Looks like ur right. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:18:49 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm open to ideas. What I did for now is add that little button next to the quote, which jumps to the quoted thread and so on down the road. This way you can follow it until you grow tired, or have seen the entire quote tree exchange. If this isn't enough, I thought of potentially recreating the "sub thread" as a popup div that creates a linear post history revolving around that quote tree. The only issue there is you can follow one branch at a time. Still, this may be a cool way to jump into a thread that has 4-5 conversations going on and follow each one on their own. I'd rather just be allowed three quotes. It sounds easier. The "sub thread" sounds more like what DU has, and that's the worst forum to navigate that I've ever tried to read. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:18:54 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tree or beanstalk? Jack dropped a bean. (I'll edit this out in about 5min)Haha. There's always at least one! |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:19:02 AM EDT
[#25]
This is confusing
Should be maxed to 2 or 3 quotes |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:19:28 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: how does that do anything but give you your current place in the thread? People can link to a specific post if there is an issue. I normally backtrack through a thread even if I find an issue mid way. This way I have the context (even if the quote trees still existed) of why something began, and how it came to be. Lack of quote trees won't change how I deal with that kind of thing. If Aimless goes crazy, that's just expected. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:19:51 AM EDT
[#27]
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Ideas? OK A while ago when I would reply to a thread, the page would load fine, and I would see my post. I would scroll down to see other posts. Then I would refresh, and I would see the new posts. Now, when I refresh after scrolling down, it would take me back up the page to my post. This is quite irritating. Also, if I had quoted someone, or hit reply without being at the bottom of the page, when I would refresh after posting, it would take my back to where I hit the "post" or "quote" button at. The only way to remedy this is to re-enter the thread from another page. After doing this, the page will refresh and go to where I had scrolled to. Another idea: instead of limiting a tree to 1 quote, let it go back to 2 or 3 max. Or even better, perhaps set an option on our profile page where we can set how many quotes deep to see. I like this idea, a lot of times I want to see the last 2 or 3 but not the last 20. ETA: Also, I can't see John87 quoted GoatBoy so if I jumped a page or 2, I would have to scroll back to find out what John87 was referring to (assuming I was not the one to quote him  )
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:19:52 AM EDT
[#28]
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If it could be set to allow two quotes rather than one by default, I think that would be better. Two is often required for context, but more than that only rarely. Ok but for short jumps the, 2-3 deep, all you have to do is click the little icon and jump up and see the quote, jump again if 3 does it for you. That's the reason I put that there. I figured a single quote is nice, but not always going to get the job done. 2-3 is typical so a quick way to jump is nice. My concern is the longer ones, which is why I proposed a subthread option to let you read through an entire quote path from start to finish in it's own space, while you are reading the thread. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:20:47 AM EDT
[#29]
Change on Arfcom = Bad!
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:21:15 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now, when I refresh after scrolling down, it would take me back up the page to my post. This is quite irritating. Also, if I had quoted someone, or hit reply without being at the bottom of the page, when I would refresh after posting, it would take my back to where I hit the "post" or "quote" button at. This is due to some bugginess in the anchor tags. It doesn't always happen. When it does, just bang on the "clear bookmark" button which will take you back to the top of the page but then once you scroll down future refreshes will occur from your current screen position. Or delete the # and everything to the right of it in your address bar and press enter. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:23:56 AM EDT
[#31]
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People can link to a specific post if there is an issue. I normally backtrack through a thread even if I find an issue mid way. This way I have the context (even if the quote trees still existed) of why something began, and how it came to be. Lack of quote trees won't change how I deal with that kind of thing. If Aimless goes crazy, that's just expected.
they could at least make the button bigger. It's like they don't want anybody to know what's going on. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:24:08 AM EDT
[#32]
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This is due to some bugginess in the anchor tags. It doesn't always happen. When it does, just bang on the "clear bookmark" button which will take you back to the top of the page but then once you scroll down future refreshes will occur from your current screen position. Or delete the # and everything to the right of it in your address bar and press enter. When it started for me a few months ago it hasn't stopped since. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:25:22 AM EDT
[#33]
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Change on Arfcom = Bad! You say that like it's new 
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:25:47 AM EDT
[#34]
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You say that like it's new Why yes, my shoes are new. Thank you for noticing. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:25:56 AM EDT
[#35]
Never mind
Monk |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:26:26 AM EDT
[#36]
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When it started for me a few months ago it hasn't stopped since. You can also go to the address for the page and remove all the stuff after "page=#", then go to that new address. That's what I've been doing. Takes you to the top of the page though.
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:27:22 AM EDT
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Think there should be 2 or 3 quote limit One isnt enough [/quote
Agreed |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:27:40 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok but for short jumps the, 2-3 deep, all you have to do is click the little icon and jump up and see the quote, jump again if 3 does it for you. That's the reason I put that there. I figured a single quote is nice, but not always going to get the job done. 2-3 is typical so a quick way to jump is nice. My concern is the longer ones, which is why I proposed a subthread option to let you read through an entire quote path from start to finish in it's own space, while you are reading the thread. After you jump back with the little black button you're stuck there. If the quote was from 3 pages earlier, then one has to ascertain what page they are now on and try to find their way back to where they were when they wanted to post. A return button would work, however, it would only allow the current poster to read the previous context they are investigating...and not anyone else...unless they too track back the context. I think 4 prior quotes would allow context to be 'carried over' without keeping everyone reading the thread from having to jump around by using the little black buttons. YMMV |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:27:41 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: they could at least make the button bigger. It's like they don't want anybody to know what's going on. Quote HistoryQuoted: People can link to a specific post if there is an issue. I normally backtrack through a thread even if I find an issue mid way. This way I have the context (even if the quote trees still existed) of why something began, and how it came to be. Lack of quote trees won't change how I deal with that kind of thing. If Aimless goes crazy, that's just expected. they could at least make the button bigger. It's like they don't want anybody to know what's going on. It's like you want everything to be easy or something. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:27:48 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote trees and cleavage. Serious fuckin business.
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:29:00 AM EDT
[#41]
Nope, don't like it at all.
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:29:03 AM EDT
[#42]
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When it started for me a few months ago it hasn't stopped since. Have you gone to a doctor to get this checked out 
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:29:06 AM EDT
[#43]
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Quote trees and cleavage. Serious fuckin business.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Both have caused the site to be more difficult to use than it should be for too many people. Also, bandwidth. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:29:20 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like he did |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:29:21 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
After you jump back with the little black button you're stuck there. If the quote was from 3 pages earlier, then one has to ascertain what page they are now on and try to find their way back to where they were when they wanted to post. A return button would work, however, it would only allow the current poster to read the previous context they are investigating...and not anyone else...unless they too track back the context. I think 4 prior quotes would allow context to be 'carried over' without keeping everyone reading the thread from having to jump around by using the little black buttons. YMMV agreed |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:30:47 AM EDT
[#46]
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Did what? |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:30:56 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
After you jump back with the little black button you're stuck there. If the quote was from 3 pages earlier, then one has to ascertain what page they are now on and try to find their way back to where they were when they wanted to post. A return button would work, however, it would only allow the current poster to read the previous context they are investigating...and not anyone else...unless they too track back the context. I think 4 prior quotes would allow context to be 'carried over' without keeping everyone reading the thread from having to jump around by using the little black buttons. YMMV If you use your browser's back button, you jump right back, step by step, to where you were. I can code that into the thread, but that's why the browser has a back button. |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:31:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both have caused the site to be more difficult to use than it should be for too many people. Also, bandwidth. Both what? |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:32:36 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
 Boo what man? What? Context? Huh? |
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Posted: 7/17/2013 11:33:32 AM EDT
[#50]
Kill the trees, but at least leave us some shrubs.
3 quote max. |
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