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Ah yes, bloggers... those guys who editorialize and write hit pieces, without worrying about pesky things like accountability or facts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So anyone with a cell phone streaming live video is now considered part of the media? I agree. The government should license and only allow first amendment rights to officially recognized journalists. I didn't. Bloggers and other internet contributors are the new media. I think you just described CNN, MSNBC, and pretty much every major news outlet. |
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So anyone with a cell phone streaming live video is now considered part of the media? I agree. The government should license and only allow first amendment rights to officially recognized journalists. I didn't. Bloggers and other internet contributors are the new media. The pesky constitution doesn't seem to define press as having to be factual or accountable. |
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Don't care. The media are fucking worthless. They get killed, hope they get it on camera. Put it over on the YNC for them to critique about dying skills.
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Pointing his rifle at one guy with a camera after wildly pointing around at a bunch of folks "I'll fucking kill you. Get back." Not a conditional threat, just a threat to kill someone. I'm sure it will be defended. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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For those of us without speakers at work or whatever reason. I assume the gist is "Get out of here or I'll kill you? Pointing his rifle at one guy with a camera after wildly pointing around at a bunch of folks "I'll fucking kill you. Get back." Not a conditional threat, just a threat to kill someone. I'm sure it will be defended. Face it, it is hard to be nice or even friendly to people you are training to kill. |
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OP labeled some random guy as "media" in an obvious attempt to puff up his cred. I have no problem with the content of the video, but I won't let someone piss in the air and tell me it's raining. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Who gives a fuck whether it's a journalist or not? When people try to distract from the real topic with trivialities, it smells of an agenda. The "protesters" are fucking stupid. However, Officer Douchey Killemall should be removed from the force immediately. Am I in before someone defends his actions? [ETA] I can't wait to see how the transition is made from "not a journalist" to "officer acted appropriately", because I'm sure that's in the works. I have no problem with the content of the video, but I won't let someone piss in the air and tell me it's raining. O rly? |
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OP labeled some random guy as "media" in an obvious attempt to puff up his cred. I have no problem with the content of the video, but I won't let someone piss in the air and tell me it's raining. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Who gives a fuck whether it's a journalist or not? When people try to distract from the real topic with trivialities, it smells of an agenda. The "protesters" are fucking stupid. However, Officer Douchey Killemall should be removed from the force immediately. Am I in before someone defends his actions? [ETA] I can't wait to see how the transition is made from "not a journalist" to "officer acted appropriately", because I'm sure that's in the works. I have no problem with the content of the video, but I won't let someone piss in the air and tell me it's raining. The guy holding the camera appears to have reported what happened to us. What does that make him? |
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Pointing his rifle at one guy with a camera after wildly pointing around at a bunch of folks "I'll fucking kill you. Get back." Not a conditional threat, just a threat to kill someone. I'm sure it will be defended. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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For those of us without speakers at work or whatever reason. I assume the gist is "Get out of here or I'll kill you? Pointing his rifle at one guy with a camera after wildly pointing around at a bunch of folks "I'll fucking kill you. Get back." Not a conditional threat, just a threat to kill someone. I'm sure it will be defended. In Texas, that's considered a Terroristic Threat if you're little people. Since he actually is waving a rifle, it might also be Assault. Blue line probably makes it OK though. |
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In Texas, that's considered a Terroristic Threat if you're little people. Since he actually is waving a rifle, it might also be Assault. Blue line probably makes it OK though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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For those of us without speakers at work or whatever reason. I assume the gist is "Get out of here or I'll kill you? Pointing his rifle at one guy with a camera after wildly pointing around at a bunch of folks "I'll fucking kill you. Get back." Not a conditional threat, just a threat to kill someone. I'm sure it will be defended. In Texas, that's considered a Terroristic Threat if you're little people. Since he actually is waving a rifle, it might also be Assault. Blue line probably makes it OK though. His job is to go home safe at night. Your job is to pick up that can. |
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So anyone with a cell phone streaming live video is now considered part of the media? I agree. The government should license and only allow first amendment rights to officially recognized journalists. I didn't. Bloggers and other internet contributors are the new media. I think you're confusing bloggers with the New York Times. |
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Well, Officer Gofuckyourself better go work on his résumé.
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Face it, it is hard to be nice or even friendly to people you are training to kill. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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For those of us without speakers at work or whatever reason. I assume the gist is "Get out of here or I'll kill you? Pointing his rifle at one guy with a camera after wildly pointing around at a bunch of folks "I'll fucking kill you. Get back." Not a conditional threat, just a threat to kill someone. I'm sure it will be defended. Face it, it is hard to be nice or even friendly to people you are training to kill. I never once told some random non-threatening Iraqi that I was going to fucking kill them, and I guarandamntee you the Marines were training me to kill them. They also were training me on how to be a professional. Apparently Heavy 6 missed that part. |
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Don't stop at unprofessional. Pretty illegal. Ever since I saw that cop sitting on the top of his armored vehicle, glassing the crowd through the scope of his AR, I do not even understand how this is even legal or why it has not been stopped. If someone from the crowd was glassing the police through a scope they would be shot or arrested. I do not understand how the police get a pass on this. Is this type of action even legal for the cops to use? |
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Well, Officer Gofuckyourself better go work on his résumé. He'll be lucky if he isn't charged with assault. View Quote A cop getting fired (let alone charged) just for pointing his rifle at unarmed non-threatening people while screaming death threats? What crazy utopia do you live in where that's going to happen, I want to move there. |
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Are Breibart's staff journalists? Is a freelance news photographer? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So anyone with a cell phone streaming live video is now considered part of the media? I agree. The government should license and only allow first amendment rights to officially recognized journalists. Alternatively, people who hang out in riots and take pictures with their cell phones should not call themselves journalists. It's a blatant lie and if the person will lie about something that obvious, anything else he says must be considered bullshit until proven otherwise. Besides, I took pictures in D.C. I'm a fucking Washington Correspondent! Are Breibart's staff journalists? Is a freelance news photographer? Is an idiot running through the middle of a riot a journalist or a news photographer? Am I? I did actually work as one many years ago. But, if Fort Worth has a race riot and I decide to go play in the middle of it while recording video, that does not make me a journalist. It makes me a person playing in the middle of a race riot while recording video. |
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The guy holding the camera appears to have reported what happened to us. What does that make him? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Who gives a fuck whether it's a journalist or not? When people try to distract from the real topic with trivialities, it smells of an agenda. The "protesters" are fucking stupid. However, Officer Douchey Killemall should be removed from the force immediately. Am I in before someone defends his actions? [ETA] I can't wait to see how the transition is made from "not a journalist" to "officer acted appropriately", because I'm sure that's in the works. I have no problem with the content of the video, but I won't let someone piss in the air and tell me it's raining. The guy holding the camera appears to have reported what happened to us. What does that make him? I have it on the collective authority of Arfcom authoritarians it makes him an asshole. Anyone that films a cop, causes that cop to fucking lose his shit and become and asshole. Ineveitable post: assholes colliding. |
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Is an idiot running through the middle of a riot a journalist or a news photographer? Am I? I did actually work as one many years ago. But, if Fort Worth has a race riot and I decide to go play in the middle of it while recording video, that does not make me a journalist. It makes me a person playing in the middle of a race riot while recording video. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So anyone with a cell phone streaming live video is now considered part of the media? I agree. The government should license and only allow first amendment rights to officially recognized journalists. Alternatively, people who hang out in riots and take pictures with their cell phones should not call themselves journalists. It's a blatant lie and if the person will lie about something that obvious, anything else he says must be considered bullshit until proven otherwise. Besides, I took pictures in D.C. I'm a fucking Washington Correspondent! Are Breibart's staff journalists? Is a freelance news photographer? Is an idiot running through the middle of a riot a journalist or a news photographer? Am I? I did actually work as one many years ago. But, if Fort Worth has a race riot and I decide to go play in the middle of it while recording video, that does not make me a journalist. It makes me a person playing in the middle of a race riot while recording video. Who decides which people are and aren't "journalists"? |
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Generally, there is no criminal penalty for being factually incorrect. If they are libelous or slanderous, you can sue them. Do you think they should be arrested or something? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The pesky constitution doesn't seem to define press as having to be factual or accountable. Generally, there is no criminal penalty for being factually incorrect. If they are libelous or slanderous, you can sue them. Do you think they should be arrested or something? No. Of course not. The only point I'm trying to make is that todays "press" is anyone with a cam, and they are afforded the same constitutional rights of free press as the guy in 1790 who literally had a press, pressing news papers by hand. |
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Hmmm. Man with a rifle pointed at me and threatening to kill me would make me fear for my life.
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Rather than the inevitable "Does having a cameraphone make X a reporter?" which always seems to be asked in these threads, a better question might be, Does the free speech protection provided by the 1st Amenedment apply only to reporters, or to everyone? |
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I did actually work as one many years ago. But, if Fort Worth has a race riot and I decide to go play in the middle of it while recording video, that does not make me a journalist. It makes me a person playing in the middle of a race riot while recording video. View Quote Bear with me here, because this is going to get complicated. If you were recording video to play in your living room later, that doesn't make you a journalist. If you're recording video and using it to report to other people, then you're a journalist. That goofy fucker from Vice News had over 20,000 people watching his live stream the other night. I'll stand by for whatever statist contortions anyone wants to go through to try to prove that isn't journalism. |
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Why was the fat cop in Blurryville pointing a carbine at people?
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Is an idiot running through the middle of a riot a journalist or a news photographer? Am I? I did actually work as one many years ago. But, if Fort Worth has a race riot and I decide to go play in the middle of it while recording video, that does not make me a journalist. It makes me a person playing in the middle of a race riot while recording video. View Quote I don't even understand what your position actually is. Is a journalist suddenly not a journalist and instead a rioter because they are reporting from a riot? |
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Sure. But I don't think you'd make it to your defense trial when 100 of his friends respond to your response. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hmmm. Man with a rifle pointed at me and threatening to kill me would make me fear for my life. There's an appropriate response in that scenario. Sure. But I don't think you'd make it to your defense trial when 100 of his friends respond to your response. Gotta pick your battles. Actually, you have to pick your environment, too. Don't hang out with losers. Don't attend riots. Don't stick around at the bar after exchanging words with a drunk. Don't bed married women. Don't free climb. etc. It's not rocket surgery. |
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We've crossed into a weird reality here. Basic fundamentals of firearm discipline dictate that you never point the business end of a firearm at anything your not intending to destroy. Never have I seen a loaded rifle used as a crowd control technique. This is incomprehensible that waving a loaded rifle in an attempt to assert dominance. I can't tell you that my first reaction when someone points a rifle at me is to defend myself with reckless abandon.
This officer should be immediately stripped of his badge and prosecuted unmercifully. Some of you research gurus need to track down his name and post this despicable excuse for a cop to every social media outlet known to man. We need to put these power hungry morons on full display. I've seen allot of crap during these protests, but this is without a doubt the must clear case of a cop crossing the line I've seen. Moreover is he actually going to engage an unarmed person with an AR? Does he know that bullet will continue to travel and potentially kill someone in addition to his primary target? |
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Good job officer gofuckyourself... Way to be calm in that situation.
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We've crossed into a weird reality here. Basic fundamentals of firearm discipline dictate that you never point the business end of a firearm at anything your not intending to destroy. Never have I seen a loaded rifle used as a crowd control technique. This is incomprehensible that waving a loaded rifle in an attempt to assert dominance. I can't tell you that my first reaction when someone points a rifle at me is to defend myself with reckless abandon. This officer should be immediately stripped of his badge and prosecuted unmercifully. Some of you research gurus need to track down his name and post this despicable excuse for a cop to every social media outlet known to man. We need to put these power hungry morons on full display. I've seen allot of crap during these protests, but this is without a doubt the must clear case of a cop crossing the line I've seen. Moreover is he actually going to engage an unarmed person with an AR? Does he know that bullet will continue to travel and potentially kill someone in addition to his primary target? View Quote Ferguson doesn't list any Go Fuckyourself as an officer. Any suggestion on how to proceed? |
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I don't even understand what your position actually is. Is a journalist suddenly not a journalist and instead a rioter because they are reporting from a riot? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is an idiot running through the middle of a riot a journalist or a news photographer? Am I? I did actually work as one many years ago. But, if Fort Worth has a race riot and I decide to go play in the middle of it while recording video, that does not make me a journalist. It makes me a person playing in the middle of a race riot while recording video. I don't even understand what your position actually is. Is a journalist suddenly not a journalist and instead a rioter because they are reporting from a riot? yall motherfuckers are splitting tiny little ball hairs. It doesn't matter WHO he was pointing it at. The point is he is a police officer which should be held to a higher standard patrolling an already fragile event pointing a loaded gun at unarmed people who are not being threatening in any way what so ever saying he will fucking kill them. You even hear the other cop yell at him point your fucking rifle down what the fuck is wrong with you. The guy needs fired immediately. If you can't handle a little stress in a job that is 99% stressful 100% of the time without threatening to kill people for no reason with a loaded gun you don't need to be doing that job period. |
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Start posting the video, asking if people recognize him to post his name. Eventually someone will come forward.
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Is an idiot running through the middle of a riot a journalist or a news photographer? Am I? I did actually work as one many years ago. But, if Fort Worth has a race riot and I decide to go play in the middle of it while recording video, that does not make me a journalist. It makes me a person playing in the middle of a race riot while recording video. I don't even understand what your position actually is. Is a journalist suddenly not a journalist and instead a rioter because they are reporting from a riot? Is everything on the internet suddenly true? Would you like to buy a used car? It was owned by a little old lady who only drove it to church on Sundays. Possibly you'd like to buy the Batmobile. I can get you a really good deal on it. Send me $1,500,000 in cash and I'll ship it to you. You should believe me because you believe anything that anyone tells you. |
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Does he know that bullet will continue to travel and potentially kill someone in addition to his primary target? View Quote that's the risk the people accepted by standing downrange of the officer. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1657258_Innocent_woman_killed_by_officer_s_stray_bullet_in_downtown_Orlando.html ar-jedi |
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Again, I apologize for such shitty linkage and general lack of posting skills. No, not a troll at all. This nastiness in Missouri has been really bothering me. I have family not too far from there, and it sucks. Its like this latest incident took every hot button issue and combined them into one huge ball of shit. Im one of those federal employees you guys all hate so much, sorta. I am a machinist (wg10) at the Rock Island Arsenal, and we actually work and get dirty and everything. Seriously though, I'm 57 and I barely recognize this country anymore.
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