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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:34:40 PM EDT
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noveske
sabre colt Knights BCM |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:35:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: No love for Mega? Mine has been excellent. I didn't realize they made complete rifles. Sorry, I forget that some people don't like to build from parts. |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:36:33 PM EDT
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LMT seems to be the one that appears in everyone's list most consistently.
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:40:20 PM EDT
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These threads are fascinating to me. Everytime one comes up the Noveske fanboys trip over themselves. Usually take control of the thread. But this always confused me. Nobody I know owns a Noveske. I've never ever seen a Noveske. So I look up the numbers.
Last three years production for Noveske is 43, 190, and 770. 2006 to 2008, per the ATF stats. Does everyone that buys one have to swear they will post on the internet at least weekly how great they are? I'm honestly curious. Bushmaster builds more in a week than Noveske has in three years. FWIW, I'm in the "they're all pretty much the same" boat. In my shooting group we have Colt, Bushmaster, DPMS, Superior, RRA, Oly, two or three frankenguns. All of them seem to work. |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:41:02 PM EDT
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IBTUC
In before the useless chart. I'm sorry, but I know few serious AR shooters who buy a complete off-the-shelf rifle. They buy the best of the best of each component and go from there. Custom....... |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:41:14 PM EDT
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Bravo Company
Larue Smith & Wesson Sabre Defense Colt Defense But, FWIW, I think they're all about the same. These get listed slightly higher because of the stricter quality control. You might be ever so slightly more likely to get a lemon from another manufacturer, but if it's a good one, it's just as good as any of the above. My Stag is as good as anyone's 6920 or M&P15. |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:44:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No love for Mega? Mine has been excellent. I didn't realize they made complete rifles. Sorry, I forget that some people don't like to build from parts. No need to get defensive –– I have more personal builds than bought-complete rifles, myself, but the subject of the thread/OP (at least as I understood it) was the relative quality of rifle manufacturers, not lower manufacturers. How well your (or my) Mega build runs says little to nothing about the company's quality (except maybe that their lowers are in-spec). If the OP wasn't asking about complete factory rifle quality, my apologies.  |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:47:11 PM EDT
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I have been shooting AR's since 1979. They are all the same. +1 I have been driving vehicles since 1998. They are all the same........... I have been fucking women since 1994. They are all the same........... |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:50:04 PM EDT
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Hesse
Blackthorne Vulcan Olympic DPMS |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:52:07 PM EDT
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I have been shooting AR's since 1979. They are all the same. +1 I have been driving vehicles since 1998. They are all the same........... I have been fucking women since 1994. They are all the same........... Not all Rice Krispy Squares are the same... |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:53:06 PM EDT
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Colt
...Tromex ......AGP ........PWA ............LMT |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 1:57:11 PM EDT
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Colt
Bushmaster Stag Arms All = CMT http://www.continentalmachinetool.com/firearms.html Add who ever you want below this they are all just copies BTW: Take a good look at the barrels that come from. LMT RRA BCM SDI DSA Pins holding the FSB to the barrel are not correct They are not up to military specifications .All come from the Chicago area. Obamaland! Edit to add: Ya if you bought an over priced piece of knockoff ar-15 type good, I guess you would think it was the best thing on the market. |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 2:00:05 PM EDT
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Me
Me Me Me Me Every AR I've built has been 100% with any ammo, including Wolf and Bear. Hard to beat 100% And since the other makers are just assemblers (how many actually fab their own receivers, barrels and small parts?), I see no reason to favor them over me. And I can hand select every part to suit my needs, budget and desires. |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 2:17:44 PM EDT
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Me Me Me Me Me Every AR I've built has been 100% with any ammo, including Wolf and Bear. Hard to beat 100% And since the other makers are just assemblers (how many actually fab their own receivers, barrels and small parts?), I see no reason to favor them over me. And I can hand select every part to suit my needs, budget and desires. Beat me to it. 
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Posted: 1/15/2010 2:25:56 PM EDT
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1. Colt
2. Colt 3. Colt 4. Colt 5. Colt The rest are just copies of the original/Best 
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Posted: 1/15/2010 2:51:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: Colt Bushmaster Add who ever you want below this they are all just copies BTW: Take a good look at the barrels that come from. LMT RRA BCM SDI DSA Pins holding the FSB to the barrel are not correct They are not up to military specifications .All come from the Chicago area. Obamaland! Edit to add: Ya if I bought an over priced piece of knockoff ar-15 type good, I guess I would think it was the best thing on the market .AND Then I stuck it in my closet of my apartment for say 1 maybe 2 years, never fired it. I too would think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I guess I would try to sell it on the internet once I realized I don't need it and my current girl friend doesn’t want me to have it Dont know about the rest, but youre wrong IMO mil spec is a limitation. My (and all) LMT barrel comes from Rock Creek Barrels, by Mike Rock, in Wisconsin. |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 2:53:16 PM EDT
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The ones that I build...
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Posted: 1/15/2010 3:00:40 PM EDT
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what, no DPMS???? hmm, I own a DPMS and I havent had any problems with it. donno? |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 3:17:01 PM EDT
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Bump firer that thing and watch the pins holding the FSB to the barrel come loose
Do want pictures? BTW: your from Ca don't you have some sort of AWB? Watch you post I would want the BATFE to come visit to you. Quoted:
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Colt Bushmaster Add who ever you want below this they are all just copies BTW: Take a good look at the barrels that come from. LMT RRA BCM SDI DSA Pins holding the FSB to the barrel are not correct They are not up to military specifications .All come from the Chicago area. Obamaland! Edit to add: Ya if I bought an over priced piece of knockoff ar-15 type good, I guess I would think it was the best thing on the market .AND Then I stuck it in my closet of my apartment for say 1 maybe 2 years, never fired it. I too would think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I guess I would try to sell it on the internet once I realized I don't need it and my current girl friend doesn’t want me to have it Dont know about the rest, but youre wrong IMO mil spec is a limitation. My (and all) LMT barrel comes from Rock Creek Barrels, by Mike Rock, in Wisconsin. |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 3:22:40 PM EDT
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Noveske
Noveske Charles Daly Armalite AR10
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Posted: 1/15/2010 3:33:47 PM EDT
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I bought a Bushmaster 10 years ago when Colt was the end-all-be-all. A couple years later the Hive Mind Collective deemed Bushmaster worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as Colt, but that was about it. I bought my second Bushmaster. Then I bought a RRA lower and matched it with a Bushmaster upper a couple years later. At that time RRA was considered par with Bushmaster, but just shy of Colt.
I have never needed to improve or mess with or replace my rifles. Many years, several thousands of rounds...some of them of questionable quality....and I have never thought I needed to replace them with the new uber-cool, ultra tactical boutique rifles. I may have swapped a rail or a trigger here and there, but that was just for fun, not necessity. There's really not that much difference unless you plan on holding a donut shop hostage at shift change. roy d....did I mention that they shoot way more accurate than I can see? |
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Posted: 1/15/2010 3:43:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: Bump firer that thing and watch the pins holding the FSB to the barrel come loose Do want pictures? BTW: your from Ca don't you have some sort of AWB? Watch you post I would want the BATFE to come visit to you. Quoted: Quoted: Colt Bushmaster Add who ever you want below this they are all just copies BTW: Take a good look at the barrels that come from. LMT RRA BCM SDI DSA Pins holding the FSB to the barrel are not correct They are not up to military specifications .All come from the Chicago area. Obamaland! Edit to add: Ya if I bought an over priced piece of knockoff ar-15 type good, I guess I would think it was the best thing on the market .AND Then I stuck it in my closet of my apartment for say 1 maybe 2 years, never fired it. I too would think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I guess I would try to sell it on the internet once I realized I don't need it and my current girl friend doesn’t want me to have it Dont know about the rest, but youre wrong IMO mil spec is a limitation. My (and all) LMT barrel comes from Rock Creek Barrels, by Mike Rock, in Wisconsin. ROFL  And yeah, I want to see those pics.
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Posted: 1/15/2010 3:50:04 PM EDT
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Colt Bushmaster Stag Arms All = CMT http://www.continentalmachinetool.com/firearms.html Add who ever you want below this they are all just copies BTW: Take a good look at the barrels that come from. LMT RRA BCM SDI DSA Pins holding the FSB to the barrel are not correct They are not up to military specifications .All come from the Chicago area. Obamaland! Edit to add: Ya if you bought an over priced piece of knockoff ar-15 type good, I guess you would think it was the best thing on the market. WTF are you talking about???????? |
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