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Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:20:44 AM EDT
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So now we're going to get race based subsidies so people can buy houses they couldn't otherwise afford just so they can be in a "better" neighborhood?


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They already fucked up the ones they live in. Have to spread the diversity after all.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:26:12 AM EDT
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This is why I put "other" under the race card on the census.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:27:03 AM EDT
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They only reason they would have to relocate at gunpoint is if they were moving people to a crappier neighborhood.  What they are doing is just the opposite.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:38:58 AM EDT
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White Americans are under constant attack by their own government.  Can any white person really fail to understand this?
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You mean the same government that is trying to disarm us?
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:39:31 AM EDT
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Great. What every gated community needs.... more Trayvon Martins roaming their streets.
       
 
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:40:18 AM EDT
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Don't toss the next census in the trash.

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The African American population of the United States will reach 50% next census.  lol
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:43:10 AM EDT
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They were going to build "low income" apartments in a town I used to live in due to HUD pressure...till I notified the parent company and residents of the $300k condos across the street, who lawyered up and fought if off. They're inexorable, like the tide.
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Do you even MYOB, bro?



Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:43:22 AM EDT
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They dont need to relocate at gunpoint. All they have to do is say, "you want assistance, here are your choices"   This is already happening to a small degree where I live. We have had an infux here last year. Talked to some LEO and PO friends. Seems aid agencies are already directing people to live elsewhere, if they want aid.  We are talking interstate migration at that. From So. Cal. etc.
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You think?
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:46:43 AM EDT
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This is why you don't live in a "neighborhood". My "neighborhood" includes several cows, a donkey, couple of horses...Oh and there's a house or two but since everyone has 5-10 acres we don't pass the shampoo back and forth in the shower in the morning.....
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You mean the same government that is trying to disarm us?


You think?



You have plenty of folks on this site that will DENY it. Vehemently.
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Reminds me of Florida's "forced busing" during the 70's when white kids were bused to schools in the ghettos which were outside of their normal school district.  The local black youth used to enter school grounds and beat up the white kids while they were outside playing for recess.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:49:31 AM EDT
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As an American Indian Cherokee I applaud HUD for making this happen! Since we are only 1% of the population I’m willing to own several houses to spread the American Indian culture around.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:51:35 AM EDT
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See my post above.  America has already seen a day where your kids would be bused to the ghetto as a method of forced integration.
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See my post above.  America has already seen a day where your kids would be bused to the ghetto as a method of forced integration.
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This is why you don't live in a "neighborhood". My "neighborhood" includes several cows, a donkey, couple of horses...Oh and there's a house or two but since everyone has 5-10 acres we don't pass the shampoo back and forth in the shower in the morning.....


See my post above.  America has already seen a day where your kids would be bused to the ghetto as a method of forced integration.



Sent my kids to private schools. Next.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:53:56 AM EDT
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Their marxist/socialist goal is to have a neighborhood with one white family, one black family and one hispanic family living in three identical houses all beside each other.   All in the name of equality and "fairness" and forced integration.   Once they soon gain control of the entire government, who is going to stop them?

Those 15 children that Maria and Laquisha have been having over the last two decades are all going to be organized to vote and guess how they are going to vote?   They are going to vote for "progressive" democrats.  They will destroy the society that you and I have known and worked for.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 9:56:48 AM EDT
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To accomplish this, I wonder if they're going to be using all those houses in nice neighborhoods that emptied out after the housing crash.  

I mean the banks own all these empty houses so I guess they can do whatever they want with them.  

That would be a smoother transition into this "Brave New Neighborhood" than forcibly moving people.



Also, fuck commies.  
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This is why you don't live in a "neighborhood". My "neighborhood" includes several cows, a donkey, couple of horses...Oh and there's a house or two but since everyone has 5-10 acres we don't pass the shampoo back and forth in the shower in the morning.....


See my post above.  America has already seen a day where your kids would be bused to the ghetto as a method of forced integration.



Sent my kids to private schools. Next.



School Vouchers!  
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See my post above.  America has already seen a day where your kids would be bused to the ghetto as a method of forced integration.



Sent my kids to private schools. Next.



School Vouchers!  



Unless they make their acceptance mandatory, the schools I sent my kids to....will stay the same as they are now....Besides, school vouchers would result in the downsizing of public schools and considerable loss of support for Marxist politicians and proper indoctrination of youth.
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Unless they make their acceptance mandatory, the schools I sent my kids to....will stay the same as they are now....Besides, school vouchers would result in the downsizing of public schools and considerable loss of support for Marxist politicians and proper indoctrination of youth.
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You need to check out what some of the Catholic school teach my man. Largest percentage of private schools in america my friend.

two word summary: SOCIAL JUSTICE
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 10:10:31 AM EDT
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Im just going to start surrounding my house with 14' T- Walls and Hesco Barriers.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 10:11:17 AM EDT
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Great. What every gated community needs.... more Trayvon Martins roaming their streets.
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Target rich environment?

Lawyer's playground?
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 10:11:19 AM EDT
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Why do they want to live in our neighborhoods when they all sit together on lunch break and company dinners?
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They only reason they would have to relocate at gunpoint is if they were moving people to a crappier neighborhood.  What they are doing is just the opposite.
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Unless the .gov is going to relocate people at gunpoint there is no way in hell this will work. And if they try that its fucking FO time anyway.


They only reason they would have to relocate at gunpoint is if they were moving people to a crappier neighborhood.  What they are doing is just the opposite.


But what about the people that will move once the feds move in the crappy people, They will either have to make them stay at gunpoint or their little plan is destined to fail.
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I would do that anyways, but that's just how I roll.

 
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You need to check out what some of the Catholic school teach my man. Largest percentage of private schools in america my friend.

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Unless they make their acceptance mandatory, the schools I sent my kids to....will stay the same as they are now....Besides, school vouchers would result in the downsizing of public schools and considerable loss of support for Marxist politicians and proper indoctrination of youth.




You need to check out what some of the Catholic school teach my man. Largest percentage of private schools in america my friend.

two word summary: SOCIAL JUSTICE



That's certainly true, you have to do your research- but then, what's more important, your kids or the next car you buy? Who buys a car without doing research?

Fortunately for me, our church has had a school for over 50 years (When did school desegregation begin again?) and I was able to sit on the board of the school for several years. I have known all of the teachers for at least a decade or more- they are fellow church members etc...We belong to a fairly conservative, protestant, denomination and "social justice"- at least the kind you are talking about, takes a FAR BACK seat to reading, writing and 'rithmatic in our school....
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 10:18:26 AM EDT
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A good place to start this would be in the Senator's and congressman's neighborhoods. Let's see if it works there first
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Unless the .gov is going to relocate people at gunpoint there is no way in hell this will work. And if they try that its fucking FO time anyway.


They only reason they would have to relocate at gunpoint is if they were moving people to a crappier neighborhood.  What they are doing is just the opposite.


But what about the people that will move once the feds move in the crappy people, They will either have to make them stay at gunpoint or their little plan is destined to fail.


Do you have enough money to just up and leave and cut your losses? Because no one is going to want to buy your house when that happens..... And you'll have no where to go. This is the plan.....
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 10:19:24 AM EDT
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You have plenty of folks on this site that will DENY it. Vehemently.
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You think?



You have plenty of folks on this site that will DENY it. Vehemently.


I understand that, but you can't deny the obvious forever.  Why do they want to take away our right to self-defense anyway?  To make us powerless to resist, that's why.   Marxism has officially won.  They lost the battle of ideas, but they've won through the border and the maternity ward.   America as we know it is gone, dead, toast.  We are in for dark, dark times.
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Do you have enough money to just up and leave and cut your losses? Because no one is going to want to buy your house when that happens..... And you'll have no where to go. This is the plan.....
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Unless the .gov is going to relocate people at gunpoint there is no way in hell this will work. And if they try that its fucking FO time anyway.


They only reason they would have to relocate at gunpoint is if they were moving people to a crappier neighborhood.  What they are doing is just the opposite.


But what about the people that will move once the feds move in the crappy people, They will either have to make them stay at gunpoint or their little plan is destined to fail.


Do you have enough money to just up and leave and cut your losses? Because no one is going to want to buy your house when that happens..... And you'll have no where to go. This is the plan.....



Point taken, however there are plenty that will have the resorces to just up and move. And depending on how bad my neighborhood got I would do what I had to do.
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Ya, I got that...but what exactly do they do when they identify one of these neighborhoods?
AFAIK, home sellers have to enroll in the HUD program, and owners of rentals have to enroll in Section 8.

Are they planning on backing more subprime loans again to "diversify" neighborhoods or something

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They'll "target" neighborhoods that lack sufficient diversity and buy houses for sale for those on section 8 or HUD assistance or offer incentives (bribes funded by taxpayers) to rental property owners to turn those properties over to section 8/HUD.

At some point it will be illegal and racist for a landlord to deny section 8/HUD rentals just as doctors won't be allowed to not accept medicaid/care.
Link Posted: 7/22/2013 10:21:53 AM EDT
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They can rent where ever they want in CT already.
It truly does suck!
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That's certainly true, you have to do your research- but then, what's more important, your kids or the next car you buy? Who buys a car without doing research?

Fortunately for me, our church has had a school for over 50 years (When did school desegregation begin again?) and I was able to sit on the board of the school for several years. I have known all of the teachers for at least a decade or more- they are fellow church members etc...We belong to a fairly conservative, protestant, denomination and "social justice"- at least the kind you are talking about, takes a FAR BACK seat to reading, writing and 'rithmatic in our school....
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Agreed. I want to send my kids to private school, but not religious at all myself. But it would have to be the right kind of place for them. Catholic School turned me off to the religion for their stubborn, inconsistent and at times foolish dogma + their desire to implement "social justice" everywhere. And the education, specifically math, was sub par. But at least it kept me out of the ghetto schools. I never had to worry about my safety there.
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You know, there is a new neighborhood being built that I looked at the other day. The lots are not huge but it's VERY interesting.

The whole place is surrounded by a concrete wall (very unusual for this part of the world) it has a VERY long driveway into the place- at least 300 yards long and the drive has walls on either side of it, you have to turn 90 degrees at the end of the drive to actually enter the place. Each house- there are about 10 or 12 only, is made of brick or stucco with either metal or clay tile roofs. Only the front windows facing the street are "normal" windows- all the others are up high on the walls and fairly small.... Each home has a concrete block wall that fully encloses the back yards from one another. The places are 1600-2300 square feet, not huge but decent sized, materials appear to be high quality.....To a trained eye....place looks like a fortress.....
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Point taken, however there are plenty that will have the resorces to just up and move. And depending on how bad my neighborhood got I would do what I had to do.
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Do you have enough money to just up and leave and cut your losses? Because no one is going to want to buy your house when that happens..... And you'll have no where to go. This is the plan.....



Point taken, however there are plenty that will have the resorces to just up and move. And depending on how bad my neighborhood got I would do what I had to do.



What do you think happened in Detroit? Those folks, well over a half a million of them, got the fuck out.
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Please tell me that the racial slur that was removed is the name for a crispy piece of dried bread that has been deemed as not racist by Blacks.
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I understand that, but you can't deny the obvious forever.  Why do they want to take away our right to self-defense anyway?  To make us powerless to resist, that's why.   Marxism has officially won.  They lost the battle of ideas, but they've won through the border and the maternity ward.   America as we know it is gone, dead, toast.  We are in for dark, dark times.
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100%, spot on correct.
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You know, there is a new neighborhood being built that I looked at the other day. The lots are not huge but it's VERY interesting.

The whole place is surrounded by a concrete wall (very unusual for this part of the world) it has a VERY long driveway into the place- at least 300 yards long and the drive has walls on either side of it, you have to turn 90 degrees at the end of the drive to actually enter the place. Each house- there are about 10 or 12 only, is made of brick or stucco with either metal or clay tile roofs. Only the front windows facing the street are "normal" windows- all the others are up high on the walls and fairly small.... Each home has a concrete block wall that fully encloses the back yards from one another. The places are 1600-2300 square feet, not huge but decent sized, materials appear to be high quality.....To a trained eye....place looks like a fortress.....
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You know, there is a new neighborhood being built that I looked at the other day. The lots are not huge but it's VERY interesting.

The whole place is surrounded by a concrete wall (very unusual for this part of the world) it has a VERY long driveway into the place- at least 300 yards long and the drive has walls on either side of it, you have to turn 90 degrees at the end of the drive to actually enter the place. Each house- there are about 10 or 12 only, is made of brick or stucco with either metal or clay tile roofs. Only the front windows facing the street are "normal" windows- all the others are up high on the walls and fairly small.... Each home has a concrete block wall that fully encloses the back yards from one another. The places are 1600-2300 square feet, not huge but decent sized, materials appear to be high quality.....To a trained eye....place looks like a fortress.....


Interesting.    And I was just thinking that small compounds could become a new fad.   There would need to be a way to have the residents vote on anyone wanting to buy in.   There was a news piece a long time ago about a n. e.  city high rise condo had that system and voted out a celebrity.    One black pill and you're gone.  
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Interesting.    And I was just thinking that small compounds could become a new fad.   There would need to be a way to have the residents vote on anyone wanting to buy in.   There was a news piece a long time ago about a n. e.  city high rise condo had that system and voted out a celebrity.    One black pill and you're gone.  
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Im just going to start surrounding my house with 14' T- Walls and Hesco Barriers.



You know, there is a new neighborhood being built that I looked at the other day. The lots are not huge but it's VERY interesting.

The whole place is surrounded by a concrete wall (very unusual for this part of the world) it has a VERY long driveway into the place- at least 300 yards long and the drive has walls on either side of it, you have to turn 90 degrees at the end of the drive to actually enter the place. Each house- there are about 10 or 12 only, is made of brick or stucco with either metal or clay tile roofs. Only the front windows facing the street are "normal" windows- all the others are up high on the walls and fairly small.... Each home has a concrete block wall that fully encloses the back yards from one another. The places are 1600-2300 square feet, not huge but decent sized, materials appear to be high quality.....To a trained eye....place looks like a fortress.....


Interesting.    And I was just thinking that small compounds could become a new fad.   There would need to be a way to have the residents vote on anyone wanting to buy in.   There was a news piece a long time ago about a n. e.  city high rise condo had that system and voted out a celebrity.    One black pill and you're gone.  


The Fed will easily correct THAT injustice..... that type of behavior is exactly why they want to usurp control.
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What do you think happened in Detroit? Those folks, well over a half a million of them, got the fuck out.
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Do you have enough money to just up and leave and cut your losses? Because no one is going to want to buy your house when that happens..... And you'll have no where to go. This is the plan.....



Point taken, however there are plenty that will have the resorces to just up and move. And depending on how bad my neighborhood got I would do what I had to do.



What do you think happened in Detroit? Those folks, well over a half a million of them, got the fuck out.


Agreed, and it looks like the feds want to set up detroits around the country.
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About sums up my feelings!

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I had no clue..NO CLUE ..we had Sec 8 housing in my neck of the woods until recently. It is about 1/2 mile from the Intracoast. Waterway no less. A single little blk top rd just shoots around a curve and you just see trees. I was riding my bike one day and took the road and it opened up into a bunch of flat brown one story duplexes..not real horrible but out of place in a village of multi million dollar homes. I asked my 16 y/o daughter about it..she shrugged and goes yeah dad that is where everyone goes for weed duh!!

shit ya learn from yo kidz
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I say it all the time, but it's always an applicable answer to "Why would the liberals possibly want to _________" - the answer is Cloward Piven. Specifically, Cloward Piven through years of Helegian Dialectic.

Collapse the framework of society so you can rebuild it "justly".
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Reminds me of Florida's "forced busing" during the 70's when white kids were bused to schools in the ghettos which were outside of their normal school district.  The local black youth used to enter school grounds and beat up the white kids while they were outside playing for recess.
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Reminds me of Florida's "forced busing" during the 70's when white kids were bused to schools in the ghettos which were outside of their normal school district.  The local black youth used to enter school grounds and beat up the white kids while they were outside playing for recess.



That would be me. I got into a fight everyday in 5/6th grade. My mom came down one day and promptly yanked me out and drove me to the high end private school..yeah mom.
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gerrymandering on steroids?
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meh

Sux to live in a neighborhood.
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Ghetto Seeds





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Well, here's a quote from Shaun Donovan, HUD secretary. The program will apparently "expand access to high opportunity neighborhoods and draw attention to investment possibilities in under-served communities"

"Expanding access to high opportunity neighborhoods", given HUD's meddling of recent years, sounds rather bad for those who live in said neighborhoods. The traditional way to access those neighborhoods is to be able to afford it. They don't like that, of course. And they forced a lot of states, including this one, to "build affordable housing" in every town, which for some meant projects, for others (high end bedroom communities) meant townhouses below market rate that became the town ghetto and focus of almost all crime.

So, probably all of the above. Forced section 8 in more areas, subprime loans, forced "affordable housing" in areas they identify. They were going to build "low income" apartments in a town I used to live in due to HUD pressure...till I notified the parent company and residents of the $300k condos across the street, who lawyered up and fought if off. They're inexorable, like the tide.
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That's pretty fucking vague and I'm not sure if they are talking about guaranteeing mortgages again, subsidized housing, or what


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There's more on HUD's site. They're gushing about a new geospatial tool they have that can identify target neighborhoods that aren't diverse enough.

Ya, I got that...but what exactly do they do when they identify one of these neighborhoods?
AFAIK, home sellers have to enroll in the HUD program, and owners of rentals have to enroll in Section 8.

Are they planning on backing more subprime loans again to "diversify" neighborhoods or something


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Well, here's a quote from Shaun Donovan, HUD secretary. The program will apparently "expand access to high opportunity neighborhoods and draw attention to investment possibilities in under-served communities"

"Expanding access to high opportunity neighborhoods", given HUD's meddling of recent years, sounds rather bad for those who live in said neighborhoods. The traditional way to access those neighborhoods is to be able to afford it. They don't like that, of course. And they forced a lot of states, including this one, to "build affordable housing" in every town, which for some meant projects, for others (high end bedroom communities) meant townhouses below market rate that became the town ghetto and focus of almost all crime.

So, probably all of the above. Forced section 8 in more areas, subprime loans, forced "affordable housing" in areas they identify. They were going to build "low income" apartments in a town I used to live in due to HUD pressure...till I notified the parent company and residents of the $300k condos across the street, who lawyered up and fought if off. They're inexorable, like the tide.



Just think.  It wasn't that long ago that the worst problem demographic in Manchester was French Canadians.    

And these people call themselves Progressives.    What exactly is this progress towards?
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That would be me. I got into a fight everyday in 5/6th grade. My mom came down one day and promptly yanked me out and drove me to the high end private school..yeah mom.
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Everything old is new again.



Reminds me of Florida's "forced busing" during the 70's when white kids were bused to schools in the ghettos which were outside of their normal school district.  The local black youth used to enter school grounds and beat up the white kids while they were outside playing for recess.



That would be me. I got into a fight everyday in 5/6th grade. My mom came down one day and promptly yanked me out and drove me to the high end private school..yeah mom.


I went to school there in the 80's, and thankfully my parents saw that the public schools had already become that, and put me in private school instead. South Florida public schools were already gang warfare territory at that time.


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Just think.  It wasn't that long ago that the worst problem demographic in Manchester was French Canadians.    

And these people call themselves Progressives.    What exactly is this progress towards?



Something unprintable. French Hill in Nashua, named that due to the French Canadian demographic, is now so "economically diverse" that you can't go there safely. Town I was speaking of is Bedford, which was really nice, but the slime is oozing over the Manchester border in the form of burglaries and the occasional shooting or supermarket parking lot robbery. It's like mold.
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