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Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:20:24 AM EDT
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Dude, seriously, go away. You are no one here's father.

Your sanctimonious shit is getting old quick.
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Simple, people if you think this post is stupid or ridiculous ignore it and guess what, it will disappear to the end of the line.

But by posting you keep it on top.

No need to make comments, just ignore it and it does go away.


Dude, seriously, go away. You are no one here's father.

Your sanctimonious shit is getting old quick.



I still think it's the same kid.

IBNC

In before NorCal ?

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page two and I didnt call it
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:20:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:22:00 AM EDT
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I think the last 12 years of fighting over in Afghanistan & Iraq that the current generations is doing just fine when
it comes to realization of firearms and their safety with them.
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:25:04 AM EDT
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personally, I feel the tactical wheelbarrow is a far greater threat than the average mall ninja.
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:32:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:34:04 AM EDT
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Jean jackets stop 338 lapua rounds.

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hello friends,



Last year I made the decision to trust my life on the street to Second Chance body armor. I got the level IIa because it stops the most rounds. plus I got the Trauma Plate for the front.



What scares me is that, although I can fit an extra trauma plate in the front, I cannot fit a second one in back. As of late I have taken to duct-taping a second trauma plate to the area of my back where the heart and vital organs are located. Then I put my vest on.



Here is the questions. The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove. I would like to go to the single-plate solution in back. What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition. I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back.



Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua or something like that? Is there a better way to do the second plate?



BTW, I am, of course, usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my head. My SO (we work as a team when necessary) has a similar accessory containing a breakdown NEF single-shot 300 WinMag with an 18" bbl. The plan is that I shield us with my body and "catch the rounds” while she assembles the NEF. I lay down covering fire with my 23 (Bar-Sto .357 Sig barrel) and she makes the long shots. I will then throw smoke grenades to obscure the area while continuing to lay covering fire. The problem, of course, is when I have to turn my back to run, and then the problem crops up.



Thanks!





Jean jackets stop 338 lapua rounds.

I normally just put extra starch on my shirt

 
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:37:07 AM EDT
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  Actually, with modern medicine, there pretty much is.

Tons of people I know have been injured in ways that in the past would have killed them, but are back on the battlefield saying "Fucking campers."
 
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There's no re-spawn in this big game called life.


  Actually, with modern medicine, there pretty much is.

Tons of people I know have been injured in ways that in the past would have killed them, but are back on the battlefield saying "Fucking campers."
 


Yep. My old Plt Sgt was shot in the face/head with a Dragunov in Ramadi in 2007. Two years later he went back.
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:44:28 AM EDT
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I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We “RTFers”, by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We’re cops, we just don’t get the glory. I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the “Deadly Duo” of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:

   3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
   2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
   3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
   1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
   1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
   3) Glock 27 backup guns
   3) Kahr P-9 holdouts

I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. What do you guys think?
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:54:45 AM EDT
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hello friends,

Last year I made the decision to trust my life on the street to Second Chance body armor. I got the level IIa because it stops the most rounds. plus I got the Trauma Plate for the front.

What scares me is that, although I can fit an extra trauma plate in the front, I cannot fit a second one in back. As of late I have taken to duct-taping a second trauma plate to the area of my back where the heart and vital organs are located. Then I put my vest on.

Here is the questions. The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove. I would like to go to the single-plate solution in back. What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition. I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back.

Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua or something like that? Is there a better way to do the second plate?

BTW, I am, of course, usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my head. My SO (we work as a team when necessary) has a similar accessory containing a breakdown NEF single-shot 300 WinMag with an 18" bbl. The plan is that I shield us with my body and "catch the rounds” while she assembles the NEF. I lay down covering fire with my 23 (Bar-Sto .357 Sig barrel) and she makes the long shots. I will then throw smoke grenades to obscure the area while continuing to lay covering fire. The problem, of course, is when I have to turn my back to run, and then the problem crops up.

Thanks!


Jean jackets stop 338 lapua rounds.
I normally just put extra starch on my shirt  

That's what I hated about wash and wearing my ACUs, you loss all your 338 Lapua protection.
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 8:57:48 AM EDT
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hello friends,

Last year I made the decision to trust my life on the street to Second Chance body armor. I got the level IIa because it stops the most rounds. plus I got the Trauma Plate for the front.

What scares me is that, although I can fit an extra trauma plate in the front, I cannot fit a second one in back. As of late I have taken to duct-taping a second trauma plate to the area of my back where the heart and vital organs are located. Then I put my vest on.

Here is the questions. The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove. I would like to go to the single-plate solution in back. What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition. I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back.

Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua or something like that? Is there a better way to do the second plate?

BTW, I am, of course, usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my head. My SO (we work as a team when necessary) has a similar accessory containing a breakdown NEF single-shot 300 WinMag with an 18" bbl. The plan is that I shield us with my body and “catch the rounds” while she assembles the NEF. I lay down covering fire with my 23 (Bar-Sto .357 Sig barrel) and she makes the long shots. I will then throw smoke grenades to obscure the area while continuing to lay covering fire. The problem, of course, is when I have to turn my back to run, and then the problem crops up.

Thanks!

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This!

Thanks, I was looking for that....
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 9:03:04 AM EDT
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I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We “RTFers”, by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We’re cops, we just don’t get the glory. I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the “Deadly Duo” of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:

   3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
   2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
   3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
   1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
   1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
   3) Glock 27 backup guns
   3) Kahr P-9 holdouts

I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. What do you guys think?
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I think you are set unless you can't contain the perimeter and the action spills over to the Verizon store and the Smoothie King across the street.
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 9:10:52 AM EDT
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I think you are set unless you can't contain the perimeter and the action spills over to the Verizon store and the Smoothie King across the street.
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I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We “RTFers”, by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We’re cops, we just don’t get the glory. I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the “Deadly Duo” of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:

   3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
   2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
   3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
   1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
   1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
   3) Glock 27 backup guns
   3) Kahr P-9 holdouts

I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. What do you guys think?


I think you are set unless you can't contain the perimeter and the action spills over to the Verizon store and the Smoothie King across the street.


SWEET MOTHER OF GOD.

We have a plan for that. At a moment's notice, we have specially modified electric vehicles that we can use- we can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes. Boy, that was a hard-learned lesson. We only barely managed to save that poor boy, but some quick thinking and one of those scooters they reserve for the elderly and the handicapped enabled us to assault through.
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 9:32:47 AM EDT
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I love this place.
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 9:50:40 AM EDT
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I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We “RTFers”, by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We’re cops, we just don’t get the glory. I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the “Deadly Duo” of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:

   3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
   2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
   3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
   1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
   1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
   3) Glock 27 backup guns
   3) Kahr P-9 holdouts

I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. What do you guys think?
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Is that cached somewhere?  Been a long time since I've seen the whole thing.
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 9:53:33 AM EDT
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Is that cached somewhere?  Been a long time since I've seen the whole thing.
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I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We “RTFers”, by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We’re cops, we just don’t get the glory. I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the “Deadly Duo” of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:

   3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
   2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
   3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
   1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
   1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
   3) Glock 27 backup guns
   3) Kahr P-9 holdouts

I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. What do you guys think?


Is that cached somewhere?  Been a long time since I've seen the whole thing.


A collection of Gecko45's writings.  Gecko45 was the original mall ninja.
http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 9:59:56 AM EDT
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Is it sad that I remember when Gecko45 first posted that?

I almost died laughing. "Best medicine" my ass!
Link Posted: 7/26/2013 10:01:42 AM EDT
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I think you are set unless you can't contain the perimeter and the action spills over to the Verizon store and the Smoothie King across the street.
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I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas. Although there are typically between fifteen and twenty normal security officers working the beat there, we decided a while ago that it would be best to have a specilized force for violent individuals. We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We “RTFers”, by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons. If we have a full tactical alert and permission from the local LEOs we also have a Mossberg 500 with less-lethal rounds and two K-frame Smith .38s loaded with 158gr. LRN.Basically, the situation is that we get the call, we lock up the situation, put everything five by five, and cordon the area until the local authorities arrive. We’re cops, we just don’t get the glory. I am not permitted to carry Glocks on duty; however, when my wife picks me up from work I strap on the “Deadly Duo” of a 27 and 23, each with Bar-Sto .357 bbl.I am writing a proposal to replace our current Mossberg-Smith armament with the following:

   3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
   2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
   3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
   1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
   1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we lose power in the building.
   3) Glock 27 backup guns
   3) Kahr P-9 holdouts

I think this would make us capable of facing nearly any situation. What do you guys think?


I think you are set unless you can't contain the perimeter and the action spills over to the Verizon store and the Smoothie King across the street.


My REAL problem is that, like any LEO, I have enemies because of my job. They may have access to high-powered rifles. My job starts and ends at the same time every day. Although I use four rotating routes to drive to and from work, I am still vulnerable during the walk to and from my car. This is the time that I load up on the trauma plates because I DO NOT WANT TO BE SHOT DEAD!Also, someone said that my Tac Team doesn’t get training. Not true. We meet at the range every night and shoot 400 rounds each through weapons that closely resemble our duty setup. We also practice unarmed combat. I am a Master of three martial arts including ninjitsu, which means I can wear the special boots to climb walls. I don’t think any of you are working as hard as I am to be prepared. I asked a serious question about tactical armor and I wanted a serious response. If you want to laugh at somebody, try laughing at the sheep out there who go to the mall unarmed trusting in me to stand guiard over their lives like a God.
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