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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:46:05 AM EDT
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I think he is one of the Obama fanatics. Not what the rest of you think he is. It doesn't matter. He's a free, law-abiding citizen. He can carry a gun if he wants. Very true. Some here should remember the Constitution applies to everyone, not just those we agree with. That isn't directed at anyone in particular and honestly seems to be more of a Liberal trait than a conservative one. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:46:51 AM EDT
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It appears he is a supporter of Obamacare. ETA Clues: Douchebag wearing the flag Obama campaign poster being held by guy in front of flag wearer Sign saying something about ".vs Corporate Profits" Two guys he is talking to look like soft liberal types Last two pictures are a mob of supporters by their signs I can read I see this guy as an Obomunnist who is sending a message to us conservative "Tea Party" types. The message is "We have guns too" Explains the Carbon 15 and the EOTech on the handguards..... |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:47:21 AM EDT
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Well if he is on the other side then we need to get their PR guy working for us. A well dressed and groomed man carrying decent weapons in good leather seems to be the polar opposite of what our side usually fields as shining examples of OC. The standard "right wing" OCer has a shitty Lorcin in a cordura holster,dirty jeans and a confederate flag t shirt.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:49:11 AM EDT
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Well if he is on the other side then we need to get their PR guy working for us. A well dressed and groomed man carrying decent weapons in good leather seems to be the polar opposite of what our side usually fields as shining examples of OC. The standard "right wing" OCer has a shitty Lorcin in a cordura holster,dirty jeans and a confederate flag t shirt. maybe in VA 
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:49:51 AM EDT
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Pro or anti socialist health, OC of a rifle and sidearm is awesome. And the cops are right-it's perfectly legal here in AZ.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:49:52 AM EDT
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Right. Because a black man, carrying a gun legally, at a protest against a liberal policy, is such a bad thing. Reading is fundamental...... He is Pro Health care reform. (I think) Correct me if I am wrong...... You are correct. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:50:00 AM EDT
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It appears he is a supporter of Obamacare. ETA Clues: Douchebag wearing the flag Obama campaign poster being held by guy in front of flag wearer Sign saying something about ".vs Corporate Profits" Two guys he is talking to look like soft liberal types Last two pictures are a mob of supporters by their signs I can read I see this guy as an Obomunnist who is sending a message to us conservative "Tea Party" types. The message is "We have guns too" Explains the Carbon 15 and the EOTech on the handguards..... Just because he is mingled in with the pro-obamacare crowd, doesn't mean he is in favor of it. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:50:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: He does not want a membership here. He is Pro-Healthcare reform. He is most certainly Pro Obama and likely Liberal. Liberals own firearms too you know...... Sadly, I think this is correct.  |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:51:44 AM EDT
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He does not want a membership here. He is Pro-Healthcare reform. He is most certainly Pro Obama and likely Liberal. Liberals own firearms too you know...... Sadly, I think this is correct.
The good news is that when Irene comes to visit, they won't be able to hit their own asses with their optics mounted like that. 
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:51:48 AM EDT
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He has got to be a member here, that looks like the lower with the pictures of bullets instead of fire and safe(spikes??), and he has a FF rail and an Eotech
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:52:55 AM EDT
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That guy has some brass balls. Kudos to him!
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:53:29 AM EDT
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Good for him! I hope to see more of this. The pussy footing around our 2nd Amendment rights needs to stop.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:53:35 AM EDT
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He does not want a membership here. He is Pro-Healthcare reform. He is most certainly Pro Obama and likely Liberal. Liberals own firearms too you know...... Sadly, I think this is correct.
Keywords highlighted in red. You guys are speculating and guessing. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:54:11 AM EDT
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So he was there in SUPPORT of Obamacare??? I didnt see where it said he was protesting, just that he was at a Pro-Healthcare rally.... I don't think so. Guy next to him had a bullhorn that said "Ron Paul" on it, and another guy looked like he had a don't tread on me hat. In the full article it says both pro and anti were at the rally. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:55:18 AM EDT
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He has got to be a member here, that looks like the lower with the pictures of bullets instead of fire and safe(spikes??), and he has a FF rail and an Eotech No, standard Bushmaster factory Carbon Fiber carbine. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:56:00 AM EDT
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A well dressed black man standing up for liberty while dual OCing a glock and an AR15?
There is so much win here I think my brain is going to melt. I'd buy this man THREE beers. 
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:57:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: GLOCK  he's a suicide bomber LOL. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:57:30 AM EDT
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So maybe the AZ guys can help me out. I thought O.Cing a AR is brandishing.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:58:03 AM EDT
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why is he the only one....
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:58:10 AM EDT
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Ballsy but I am glad some are being proactive now instead of to late.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:58:16 AM EDT
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Someone with a troll account needs to post this on DU and and post the URL here.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:58:31 AM EDT
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It appears he is a supporter of Obamacare. ETA Clues: Douchebag wearing the flag Obama campaign poster being held by guy in front of flag wearer Sign saying something about ".vs Corporate Profits" Two guys he is talking to look like soft liberal types Last two pictures are a mob of supporters by their signs I can read I see this guy as an Obomunnist who is sending a message to us conservative "Tea Party" types. The message is "We have guns too" Some of them certainly do, which means they have already taken the first step towards enlightenment. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:00:52 AM EDT
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I am assuming the mag is loaded (but probably not chambered?)....
I would feel very wierd about having a rifle slung over my BACK in a CROWD. I would rather sling it in the front/side and keep a hand (on the handguard in this case); or perhaps yank the magazine out altogether. Anyone else cringe over that? anyway, carry on: Big brass ones, applause for a brotha (in spirit and in arms) exercising his god-given rights to self defense! Rock on.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:00:55 AM EDT
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So he was there in SUPPORT of Obamacare??? I didnt see where it said he was protesting, just that he was at a Pro-Healthcare rally.... I don't think so. Guy next to him had a bullhorn that said "Ron Paul" on it, and another guy looked like he had a don't tread on me hat. In the full article it says both pro and anti were at the rally. IOW, we don't really know for sure. Here's what I do know. A free man who abides by the just laws should be free to carry his damned rifle if he wants. Period. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:02:20 AM EDT
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Right. Because a black man, carrying a gun legally, at a protest against a liberal policy, is such a bad thing. Reading is fundamental...... He is Pro Health care reform. (I think) Correct me if I am wrong...... You are correct. Reading IS fundamental. That's why you should have read all the way to the bottom of the article where it talked about a few of the anti-health care reform people shouting things like 'race baiter' at the demonstrators. Both sides of the fence were represented there, as can be expected at every political rally. Nothing in the article nor the pictures says anything about this guy's stand on the topic. Though I would be very surprised if he was pro-obamacare. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:02:53 AM EDT
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It's cool that he's black. That should make the libtards head hurt.
But's it's still stupid. We need to pick our battles. More to gain than lose with this one. If it was white guy with a mullet and a stained wifebeater then I would agree that it hurts. Imagewise, I think this is a net plus if you want to about "marketing" a movement. It's inevitable that this news event is going to require certain liberals to address the constitutional issue involved here. That can be a good thing sometimes. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:03:04 AM EDT
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Way cool. Someone should interview him.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:03:07 AM EDT
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It appears he is a supporter of Obamacare. ETA Clues: Douchebag wearing the flag Obama campaign poster being held by guy in front of flag wearer Sign saying something about ".vs Corporate Profits" Two guys he is talking to look like soft liberal types Last two pictures are a mob of supporters by their signs I can read I see this guy as an Obomunnist who is sending a message to us conservative "Tea Party" types. The message is "We have guns too" Some of them certainly do, which means they have already taken the first step towards enlightenment. You better believe it. I know of 2 Liberals here, who own ARs, one is in the military, the other has a spouse in the .mil. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:03:12 AM EDT
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I am surprised that there is not a law in Arizona about brandishing a weapon or something. The way guns scare the sheeple I am surprised they have not found some excuse to screw with him. I am not saying he should not be allowed to open carry I just think this is not going to be ending well.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:03:28 AM EDT
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I see the spare mag for the AR, where's the spare mag for the Glock?
You don't make it past the first mag with a Glock. I'm willing to give him a pass on the Carbon-15 
ETA: mounting the EoTech on the HG is the only way to get cowitness with the carbon-15 upper. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:04:38 AM EDT
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So he was there in SUPPORT of Obamacare??? I didnt see where it said he was protesting, just that he was at a Pro-Healthcare rally.... I don't think so. Guy next to him had a bullhorn that said "Ron Paul" on it, and another guy looked like he had a don't tread on me hat. In the full article it says both pro and anti were at the rally. IOW, we don't really know for sure. Here's what I do know. A free man who abides by the just laws should be free to carry his damned rifle if he wants. Period. THIS... |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:05:00 AM EDT
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Let's wait a bit to find out some more details. He's standing next to a guy with a Ron Paul sticker on his bullhorn. He needs to be educated on proper flag ettiquette but more than likely the RP supporter is against this death care bill. RP is and so are the VERY VAST MAJORITY of his supporters because it's more nightmarish intrusion by the govt.
The article also states there were protestors both for and against the bill. I've been to quite a few anti-war rallies where we went out to conter-protest the Lefties. Often I'd wander over to their side to engage them in conversation...mostly with little success. It's conceivable this gentleman and his RP bullhorn friend showed up to counter, went over to talk and just happened to get caught by the media over on the Lefties side. Let's find out who's side he's on first before we jump to conclusions. I'm sure the interviews will be coming soon. Either way my hat's off to him for freely excercising his 2A Right but if I had to guess, he's not a Lefty. His attire, physical frame and how he's carrying his sidearm and AR tell me "Middle class, educated, prior military/LEO experience". He would look out of place in any of the Lefty rallies I've personally witnessed. And good on LEO! They recognized he was making no threats to anyone. His AR is carried at "Sling Arms" with the muzzle down. This is a common carry technique for patrols in a peacekeeping mission-type scenario. In 1994 while deployed to Macedonia with the UN's Macedonia/Serbia peacekeeping mission (Operation Able Sentry) I carried like this all the time. It conveys the message that you are visibly armed but you are not an offensive threat, unlike carrying your rifle in front of your body in a ready position. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:05:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: So maybe the AZ guys can help me out. I thought O.Cing a AR is brandishing. How do you figure that? It absolutely is NOT "brandishing". |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:05:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: So he was there in SUPPORT of Obamacare??? I didnt see where it said he was protesting, just that he was at a Pro-Healthcare rally.... I don't think so. Guy next to him had a bullhorn that said "Ron Paul" on it, and another guy looked like he had a don't tread on me hat. In the full article it says both pro and anti were at the rally. was walking around the pro-health care reform rally at 3rd and Washington streets There are some wacky Ron Paul supporters (troofers) |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:05:19 AM EDT
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So maybe the AZ guys can help me out. I thought O.Cing a AR is brandishing. As long as it is on a sling, you are good to go in AZ. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:06:00 AM EDT
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What's the point when he doesn't want to be identified? He can exercise his rights any day of the week...
If he is trying to spread the word about gun rights, why not make yourself available? Did he do it for the exposure or the lulz? I just find it kind of odd. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:06:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It appears he is a supporter of Obamacare. ETA Clues: Douchebag wearing the flag Obama campaign poster being held by guy in front of flag wearer Sign saying something about ".vs Corporate Profits" Two guys he is talking to look like soft liberal types Last two pictures are a mob of supporters by their signs I can read I see this guy as an Obomunnist who is sending a message to us conservative "Tea Party" types. The message is "We have guns too" Some of them certainly do, which means they have already taken the first step towards enlightenment. You better believe it. I know of 2 Liberals here, who own ARs, one is in the military, the other has a spouse in the .mil. How do you guys figure this is "brandishing"?! If he were waving it around; sure, but it's SLUNG ON HIS BACK! |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:07:01 AM EDT
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"Because I can do it," he said when asked why he was armed. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms."
He's also standing next to a guy with a Ron Paul sticker on his megaphone. I'm sorry folks, but that doesn't sound like an Obamunist. I'm sure there were people there from BOTH sides of the debate. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:07:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:07:53 AM EDT
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buy him a beer and membership! He does not want a membership here. He is Pro-Healthcare reform. He is most certainly Pro Obama and likely Liberal. Liberals own firearms too you know...... On what, precisely, are you basing your judgements? |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:08:25 AM EDT
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"Because I can do it," he said when asked why he was armed. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms."
I'm sorry folks, but that doesn't sound like an Obamunist. I'm sure there were people there from BOTH sides of the debate. Doesn't sound like a lib to me. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:08:45 AM EDT
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I dont think it is clear what side he is on about the healthcare debate. Although it is clear he is pro-gun which is always good.
As for people that think OC is hurting.... why? The antis will always be antis. The people in the middle maybe a little caught off guard, but at the end of the day nobody gets shot isn't it a positive situation. They were around a baby killing machine gun assault rifle with 30 rounds of heat seeking 5.556 and a reload without all spontaneously dying. Maybe that helps the perception that somebody can at least appear to be an upstanding citizen and OC without anyone getting hurt. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:09:22 AM EDT
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What's the point when he doesn't want to be identified? He can exercise his rights any day of the week... If he is trying to spread the word about gun rights, why not make yourself available? Did he do it for the exposure or the lulz? I just find it kind of odd. Probably because he doesn't want to be crucified by the media and have his name tarnished all over the country like the man in New Hampshire. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:09:51 AM EDT
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The mystery guy is quoted in the article as saying:
"Because I can do it," he said when asked why he was armed. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms." While not definitive proof... that does not sound like a liberal sound bite or talking point... Either way, what we have is a picture of a free man. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:10:06 AM EDT
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"Because I can do it," he said when asked why he was armed. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms."
I'm sorry folks, but that doesn't sound like an Obamunist. I'm sure there were people there from BOTH sides of the debate. Doesn't sound like a lib to me. Frankly, it sounds more like an ARFcommer than even just a run of the mill conservative. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:10:35 AM EDT
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he has a right to do it & I'm glad the police recognize that right
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:11:05 AM EDT
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sweet
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:12:23 AM EDT
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Here is a concept that may melt some brains.
He may be pro gun and pro health care reform. They aren't mutually exclusive even though most people are one or the other, not both. |
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:14:08 AM EDT
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I like that he slung the gun on the back. Thus, for the media to get a pic of the scary gun, that can not also get a pic of his face.
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:14:44 AM EDT
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"Because I can do it," he said when asked why he was armed. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms."
I'm sorry folks, but that doesn't sound like an Obamunist. I'm sure there were people there from BOTH sides of the debate. Doesn't sound like a lib to me. +1. After seeing that im changing my mind. One of ours. Now i feel bad making fun of his carbon 15.
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