Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
User Panel

Site Notices
Page / 9
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 2:54:16 AM EDT
[#1]
I would think that the venders that have paid their fee's would be able to sue to get those back, After all Reed changed the terms.. I also think that Reed need's to be boycotted from this point on no matter what event's they promote
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 3:01:41 AM EDT
[#2]
That's how it's supposed to be done.  Excellent!

And, hopefully it will be a wake-up call to some fudd's who haven't been paying attention, when they show up and there is nobody to sell to them...
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 3:03:45 AM EDT
[#3]
I was going to go, Now I need to find something else to do....
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 4:27:24 AM EDT
[#4]
Hit em where it hurts....no vendors..no customers.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 4:57:35 AM EDT
[#5]
I will be letting everyone of the featured exhibitors listed know how I feel! These are the last "big" exhibitors left.

HAMMER TIME!

Here is the featured exhibitors list: http://ess13.mapyourshow.com/5_0/exhibitor_results.cfm?type=list&list=featured


Exmark Mowers, ECHO and Shindaiwa Hand-Held Outdoor Power Equipment: http://www.exmark.com/ContactUs/Default.aspx?Service=General
(402) 223-6375

MN Outdoors: [email protected]
(713) 907-1992

The Sportsman's Shop: [email protected]
(717) 354-4311

Sunflower Camo Inc.: http://www.sunflowercamo.net/Contact.html
940-328-2297

Wild Evolution: [email protected]
(No phone number listed)

Yamaha Motor Corp, U.S.A.: Couldn't find a good email address
714-761-7300
(800) 962-7926
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 5:01:43 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:

Because the original post really explained it so well huh? They are hypocrites because of the advertising that google puts on the site? You guys do realize that Google ads are based on what you search for and what your interests are right?


Where's all the porn ads??
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 5:03:10 AM EDT
[#7]
This company is advertising a "37 State CCW class" at the show boycott them too:

http://www.mylegalheat.com/contact-us.html
877-252-1055
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 5:43:42 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I was going to go, Now I need to find something else to do....


Simple, go buy stuff at a local gun store or one that decided to boycott.  I will not attend, but will be shopping at Cabelas instead.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 5:43:51 AM EDT
[#9]
Good, I hope more get added to the list.  A hit in the wallet has the same effect as a 2x4 across the forehead, it will most definitely get their attention.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 5:44:24 AM EDT
[#10]
Turnbull just announced they are not attending.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 5:59:13 AM EDT
[#11]




Quoted:

Hell yes!



I'm not far from the expo center and wasn't going to go. Glad to see that these companies are taking a stand.




You should go and take pics of the vendors that do attend. Then post the pics here, so we can know.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 6:13:48 AM EDT
[#12]
Me just wrote letter:



Good morning,



I am just curious as to whether or not your company still plans on attending the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show given their overt hostility for the Second Amendment and complete disregard for the millions of gun owners who support it?



If you still plan on attending the show, despite the fact they choose to exclude such a large portion of the gun owning base, do you expect to see future revenues increase or decrease as a result?



I sincerely hope that you plan on joining the following companies in their boycott of this show for their highly politicized and misguided attempts at appeasing a portion of our citizenry who have no plans to ever buy a firearm:





   2 Million Bullets

   Alaska’s Ravencroft Lodge

   Arrowhead Outdoors

   Athens Archery

   Atlantic Tactical

   Blaine Anthony, The Bear Whisperer

   Bob Mercier

   Boondock Outdoors

   Cabela’s

   CanCooker

   Cross Canyon Arms

   Cutting Edge Bullets

   Dead Ringer

   Direct Action Tactical Firearms

   Domari Nolo Defense Consulting

   Dominator 365

   Droptine Outfitters

   DuckWater Boats

   Firearms Industry Consulting Group

   Forbes Turkey Calls

   Fred Eichler – Fulldraw Outfitters

   Full Circle Outdoors

   HookHunt

   Hunters and Guides Connection

   Kinsey’s Outdoors

   Keystone Country Store

   Lancaster Archery Supply

   Major League Bowhunter

   Midwest Whitetail Adventures

   Mountain Dog Chews

   Nature Blinds, LLC

   Northern Hideaway Outfitters

   Northern Outdoor Lodge

   Northern Wilderness Outfitters

   Open Season TV

   Outdoor Edge

   OutdoorsNative.com

   Trop Gun Shop

   Ralph & Vicki Cianciarulo – Archers Choice

   Revolution Hunting

   Rougeaux’s Taxidermy

   Stokerized Stabilizers

   The Warmbag

   Whitetail Bosses

   Wired Outdoors

   Woodcock Limited of Pennsylvania

   Wyvern Creations

   X-Stand Treestands

   Zook Cabins



We will remember which companies value our business and which companies do not.



Thanks,



-poink
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 6:20:01 AM EDT
[#13]
Good to see a lot of the fudd suppliers stand up for the 2nd.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 7:12:08 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
The AR community sure gets places blacklisted fast. Hopefully Bass Pro pulls out aswell and shuts it down.


BassPro commented on my post on their wall that they made the decision back in the summer not to participate in the show:


Bass Pro Shops-We made the business decision in the summer of 2012 to not participate in the Harrisburg, PA Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 7:12:25 AM EDT
[#15]
Bump.....For the Boycott.  
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 7:17:33 AM EDT
[#16]
Let's make sure we support the folks who support us!
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 7:23:38 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I am sure Tenn would be glad to have that show here.  Someone needs to step up and sponser it in a new place.


It isn't the site that is the problem, it's the show organizer that is fucking retarded.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 7:24:34 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Anyone have a list of sponsors remaining that we can put a little pressure on?


While we're at it, letters of support for those who aren't.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 7:33:45 AM EDT
[#19]
Philadelphia Eagles Defensive End Trent Cole boycotts Eastern Ports & Outdoor show: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20130121_Trent_Cole_jilts_Pa__sports_expo_over_tactical_rifle_ban_.html


Eagles defensive end Trent Cole, a major hunting enthusiast, is snubbing a Pennsylvania sports expo because it has banned sales of certain rifles variously described as "modern sporting rifles," "tactical rifles" or "assault weapons."
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 7:53:23 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
I am sure Tenn would be glad to have that show here.  Someone needs to step up and sponser it in a new place.


It has nothing to do with the host state.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 7:59:48 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Let's make sure we support the folks who support us!


Cabela's has seen 2 orders from me in 2 weeks......waiting on stuff to come in stock
So I can place another one



Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:30:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Playing DA here

How many of you would back out if you had already invested, say, $4500 (number pulled out of my ass) into the show.  Money you won't(probably) get back.


If you say you still would pull out, I would presume you're all donating to the NRA; cause if you say you'd wash out $4500 but won't send $25 to the NRA, I know you're full of shit.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:33:40 AM EDT
[#23]
Hopefully everyone of them will pull out!

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:35:50 AM EDT
[#24]
Well I guess Bass Pro was way ahead of everyone. I guess they knew before us all that this show was fucked.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:35:58 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Playing DA here

How many of you would back out if you had already invested, say, $4500 (number pulled out of my ass) into the show.  Money you won't(probably) get back.


If you say you still would pull out, I would presume you're all donating to the NRA; cause if you say you'd wash out $4500 but won't send $25 to the NRA, I know you're full of shit.


The positive advertisement from pulling out would probably be worth quite a bit. Especially if you make sure to publicize your decision.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:36:41 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Playing DA here

How many of you would back out if you had already invested, say, $4500 (number pulled out of my ass) into the show.  Money you won't(probably) get back.


If you say you still would pull out, I would presume you're all donating to the NRA; cause if you say you'd wash out $4500 but won't send $25 to the NRA, I know you're full of shit.


Not sure if there would be legal grounds for the exhibitors to recoup their losses - at least as far as their exhibitor fee as there seems to be a violation of terms


Reed has seemingly violated their agreements with vendors on not only what would be allowed, but how parts of the show would be marketed. Domari Nolo Defense Consulting reports:

   In particular, the removal of the promised Tactical section and renaming of that part of the event in a way that belittles the efforts of companies involved is unacceptable.

   We would not have agreed to be included in a ‘Wild West’ area had that been the original agreement. Our sponsors also do not want such an association, and have pulled their support of our show presence.

Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:38:14 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Playing DA here

How many of you would back out if you had already invested, say, $4500 (number pulled out of my ass) into the show.  Money you won't(probably) get back.


If you say you still would pull out, I would presume you're all donating to the NRA; cause if you say you'd wash out $4500 but won't send $25 to the NRA, I know you're full of shit.


Having principals isn't always cheap or easy. In fact thats sort of the point. They can make their decision and customers can make theirs. If I was a vendor I would be going after Reed.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:39:38 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Well I guess Bass Pro was way ahead of everyone. I guess they knew before us all that this show was fucked.


Or they just didn't see the need for the investment.  They're a few miles away, and they get MOBBED during the show anyways.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:42:06 AM EDT
[#29]
A lot of people make the show a weekend trip hitting the Cabelas in Hamburg as well.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:44:27 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I am sure Tenn would be glad to have that show here.  Someone needs to step up and sponser it in a new place.


It has nothing to do with the host state.


Well now we know Jim is from the Keystone state.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:44:41 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Well I guess Bass Pro was way ahead of everyone. I guess they knew before us all that this show was fucked.


Or they just didn't see the need for the investment.  They're a few miles away, and they get MOBBED during the show anyways.


I like to believe they just knew this show was put on by liberal fucks and decided not to attend. Makes me feel better.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:46:33 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
show web page

under "visitor's/search exhibitors" you can find all the companies that will attend...


used advanced search for u.s. only come up 36 companies, don't know if that's right

company & booth:
 Argentina's Best Hunts 7722  
 Atkins Guiding & Flying 6626  
 Border Bucks Outfitters 5124  
 Bowhunter's Den 1623  
 Buckeye Hunting Lodge / Buckeye Plantation LLC 7327  
 Budge's Flattops Wilderness Lodge 6736  
 Cooper Camp/Safari Nordik 7831  
 Dakota Hunting Trips 8137  
 Eagles Nest 5204  
 Elite Products 2406  
 Firenock LLC 1525  
 Florida's Best inc 5112  
 Grizzly Creek Outfitters 7324  
 Hendershot's Sporting Goods & Limcroma Safari's 6331  
 Larry's Wood Crafts 1264  
 Liam Urry Safaris 6716  
 Lowrance-Navico 601  
 Maine Dept of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife 7832  
 Majestic World Lodge & Retreat 6423  
 McCormick's Sunset Guest Ranch, Montana 7107  
 Muddy Marsh Outfitters 1416  
 Northeastern Outfitters, NC 6612  
 Olympic Mountain Outfitters 6610  
 PA Outdoor Writers Assn 7404  
 Parker Compound Bows 1433  
 Pine Creek Structures 101  
 Rawhide Guide Service, Mount 7017  
 RD 's Whitetails 6217  
 Robert W Hart & Son 7303  
 Ruffed Grouse Society Inc 2022  
 Santa Maria Ranch, KS 7016  
 Senneterre-Outfitters 332  
 True-Life Taxidermy, Safari Specialist 2628  
 Turkey Knives.Com 2920  
 Wabash Outdoors Inc 8033  
 Zooke LLC 3000
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 8:47:56 AM EDT
[#33]
Stick a fork in them, because they're done.

Why get political? Business is business leave the politics out of a trade show.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:04:04 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
show web page

under "visitor's/search exhibitors" you can find all the companies that will attend...


used advanced search for u.s. only come up 36 companies, don't know if that's right



There are more. For Example OTIS (the cleaning kit folks) is listed as attending.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:06:46 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
show web page

under "visitor's/search exhibitors" you can find all the companies that will attend...


used advanced search for u.s. only come up 36 companies, don't know if that's right



There are more. For Example OTIS (the cleaning kit folks) is listed as attending.


There are something like 1,110 attending so there is a long ways to go to really hurt them. Yes Cabela's is a huge start and some of the other people are pretty big as well. It is going to take more than what is on the list right now.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:07:48 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I am sure Tenn would be glad to have that show here.  Someone needs to step up and sponser it in a new place.


It has nothing to do with the host state.


Well now we know Jim is from the Keystone state.


I've been exposed!!!!


I'm a NY refugee.

Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:08:17 AM EDT
[#37]
Boycott over gun sale ban grows against Eastern Sports & Outdoor Show
Lee and Tiffany Lakosky, hosts of “The Crush” hunting and outdoor show, said they won’t attend next month’s event at the state Farm Show Complex because its organizers have banned the sale and display of assault rifles and high-capacity ammunition magazines.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:12:40 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
show web page

under "visitor's/search exhibitors" you can find all the companies that will attend...


used advanced search for u.s. only come up 36 companies, don't know if that's right



There are more. For Example OTIS (the cleaning kit folks) is listed as attending.


There are something like 1,110 attending so there is a long ways to go to really hurt them. Yes Cabela's is a huge start and some of the other people are pretty big as well. It is going to take more than what is on the list right now.


Well good thing we have  12 more days to get the word out!
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:17:58 AM EDT
[#39]
On principal - will anyone boycott next year's SHOT show - same promoter.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:25:05 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Gonna be able to swing a pissed off alley cat and not hit anyone in the aisles!


But will there still be Beanie Babies for sale?  Think about the Beanie Babies!!!!
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:25:57 AM EDT
[#41]
So what would happen if an exhibitor actually had a "modern sporting rifle" displayed?  What's the worst they could say?  Take it down.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:25:59 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
On principal - will anyone boycott next year's SHOT show - same promoter.


Sent this to them just now.  I'll send them another one about SHOT unless they come to their senses.  They've got a corporate middle manager in there that's either a fudd or a fuckwit, and he needs to get canned.

Hi,

I was planning to make the trip up from Virginia to attend the show again this year, until I found out it was going to prohibit marketing and display of my favorite rifles.  I'm writing to let you know how disappointed I am at that decision.  Semi-auto rifles (yes,even evil black AR platforms with full capacity magazines) are a valuable asset to the sportsman, target shooter, and even in the right caliber, to the hunter.  Banning them from the show seems like appeasement at a time when the shooting community truly needs to stand together and resist further infringement on its rights.  

I hope that you can see fit to reverse what I can only see as a cowardly decision.  Please do so.  I have enjoyed your show before and would like to again.  I cannot however, attend in good conscience with this policy in place.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:26:10 AM EDT
[#43]
A buddy of mine gave me a heads up on this.  He works with distributers as a manufacturer's rep, his comment was that show is going down hard!  Play silly games win silly prizes.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:26:48 AM EDT
[#44]
Here is a complete list of Reed Exhibitions events in the US
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:32:59 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
On principal - will anyone boycott next year's SHOT show - same promoter.


Sent this to them just now.  I'll send them another one about SHOT unless they come to their senses.  They've got a corporate middle manager in there that's either a fudd or a fuckwit, and he needs to get canned.

Hi,

I was planning to make the trip up from Virginia to attend the show again this year, until I found out it was going to prohibit marketing and display of my favorite rifles.  I'm writing to let you know how disappointed I am at that decision.  Semi-auto rifles (yes,even evil black AR platforms with full capacity magazines) are a valuable asset to the sportsman, target shooter, and even in the right caliber, to the hunter.  Banning them from the show seems like appeasement at a time when the shooting community truly needs to stand together and resist further infringement on its rights.  

I hope that you can see fit to reverse what I can only see as a cowardly decision.  Please do so.  I have enjoyed your show before and would like to again.  I cannot however, attend in good conscience with this policy in place.


NSSF is also complicit in this, as they are saying please show up and hand over your money, regardless of what the promoter is doing.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 9:45:12 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Playing DA here

How many of you would back out if you had already invested, say, $4500 (number pulled out of my ass) into the show.  Money you won't(probably) get back.


If you say you still would pull out, I would presume you're all donating to the NRA; cause if you say you'd wash out $4500 but won't send $25 to the NRA, I know you're full of shit.


Sadly, I think the choices for the vendors are:
-lose money on the expo
-lose money after the expo, by irritated people going elsewhere

As I have said, we (the gun owners) didn't pick this fight. The fight has come to us. It's simply a matter of choosing sides. Do you want to be on the side of people who want to erode our rights, or on the side of your customers?

There's a cost either way, but one of them is more rewarding in the long run.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 10:04:45 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Playing DA here

How many of you would back out if you had already invested, say, $4500 (number pulled out of my ass) into the show.  Money you won't(probably) get back.


If you say you still would pull out, I would presume you're all donating to the NRA; cause if you say you'd wash out $4500 but won't send $25 to the NRA, I know you're full of shit.


Sadly, I think the choices for the vendors are:
-lose money on the expo
-lose money after the expo, by irritated people going elsewhere

As I have said, we (the gun owners) didn't pick this fight. The fight has come to us. It's simply a matter of choosing sides. Do you want to be on the side of people who want to erode our rights, or on the side of your customers?

There's a cost either way, but one of them is more rewarding in the long run.


The vendors that pul out shouldn't have to lose any money since Reed should be refunding anything they have spent. You can't just change your mind on what you will allow a month before the show and expect everyone to go along with it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 10:19:42 AM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Playing DA here



How many of you would back out if you had already invested, say, $4500 (number pulled out of my ass) into the show.  Money you won't(probably) get back.





If you say you still would pull out, I would presume you're all donating to the NRA; cause if you say you'd wash out $4500 but won't send $25 to the NRA, I know you're full of shit.




Sadly, I think the choices for the vendors are:

-lose money on the expo

-lose money after the expo, by irritated people going elsewhere



As I have said, we (the gun owners) didn't pick this fight. The fight has come to us. It's simply a matter of choosing sides. Do you want to be on the side of people who want to erode our rights, or on the side of your customers?



There's a cost either way, but one of them is more rewarding in the long run.



Not bad for a newbie...  Welcome!
And, you're exactly right.





 
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 10:21:06 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

The vendors that pul out shouldn't have to lose any money since Reed should be refunding anything they have spent. You can't just change your mind on what you will allow a month before the show and expect everyone to go along with it.


Along those lines, it appears that some of companies that have pulled out are evil black rifle-centric, so isn't it a fair assessment that it's Reed Exhibitions that pushed the vendors out? At the very least, I  think those companies would get a refund.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 10:27:24 AM EDT
[#50]
Thank God for this, now is the time where companies show their true colors.
Page / 9
Top Top