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Bama is just trying to use a mistake in the article (used an informant rather than lied about using an informant) to detract from the story and the fact that the police murdered a man in his own home. Modus operandi. Attack the article when it makes TBL look bad. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid Link All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death. http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/153/63/1063153.gif Bama is just trying to use a mistake in the article (used an informant rather than lied about using an informant) to detract from the story and the fact that the police murdered a man in his own home. Modus operandi. Attack the article when it makes TBL look bad. No the truth is worse than what the author wrote. If you are going to publish something at least be truthful. This case should not even be mentioned in a "bad raid" article because that is not what it was. |
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I'm sure he spanked his dog too hard or jaywalked or any other reason that should lead to him being carried out in a body bag. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Let me guess...no drugs found means the guy is white as snow and a model citizen? I'm sure he spanked his dog too hard or jaywalked or any other reason that should lead to him being carried out in a body bag. Perhaps he was one of those evil wrong-wood -stacking sunofabitches. |
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Quoted: No the truth is worse than what the author wrote. If you are going to publish something at least be truthful. This case should not even be mentioned in a "bad raid" article because that is not what it was. View Quote So you're saying a raid based on false information (from the officers, not a CI) doesn't fit under the umbrella of "bad raid" You do understand how that sounds, don't you? |
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We had a swat raid against a farm for not stacking firewood properly. I gotta read that story. I can't find the original article from the newspaper but here ya go Enjoy Don't mess with Texas. |
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I feel much safer.
Meanwhile, the real drug dealers who probably live just two doors down, where everyone knows they are, will continue to operate same same as always. |
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. View Quote Did you check to see who the author is? You'll only need one guess. |
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Yep. The cops made the whole thing up. There was no informant. There was no investigation. They wanted a look in the house so they fabricated the whole case. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid Link All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death. Yep. The cops made the whole thing up. There was no informant. There was no investigation. They wanted a look in the house so they fabricated the whole case. Wow. Taking up for cops who admitted to planting evidence? I'm somewhat speechless. |
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Wow. Taking up for cops who admitted to planting evidence? I'm somewhat speechless. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid Link All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death. Yep. The cops made the whole thing up. There was no informant. There was no investigation. They wanted a look in the house so they fabricated the whole case. Wow. Taking up for cops who admitted to planting evidence? I'm somewhat speechless. IIRC Bama said those dipshits should be executed. "Taking up for them" is not what he's doing. |
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Quoted: IIRC Bama said those dipshits should be executed. "Taking up for them" is not what he's doing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid Link All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death. Yep. The cops made the whole thing up. There was no informant. There was no investigation. They wanted a look in the house so they fabricated the whole case. Wow. Taking up for cops who admitted to planting evidence? I'm somewhat speechless. IIRC Bama said those dipshits should be executed. "Taking up for them" is not what he's doing. This Bama was not taking up for the dirty cops, he was saying that the author of the article twisted the facts and made it look less severe than it actually was.
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Quoted: This View Quote Bama was not taking up for the dirty cops, he was saying that the author of the article twisted the facts and made it look less severe than it actually was. That wasn't clear. The implication I got was the story was untrue and it was a valid raid. That would be the normal interpretation of his remarks. His later clarification that it wasn't a bad raid is bullshit. Whether a CI lied or an officer lied, either way its a bad raid. I agree with Bama that the officers should have been given the death penalty. |
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Bama was not taking up for the dirty cops, he was saying that the author of the article twisted the facts and made it look less severe than it actually was. That wasn't clear. The implication I got was the story was untrue and it was a valid raid. That would be the normal interpretation of his remarks. His later clarification that it wasn't a bad raid is bullshit. Whether a CI lied or an officer lied, either way its a bad raid. I agree with Bama that the officers should have been given the death penalty. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This That wasn't clear. The implication I got was the story was untrue and it was a valid raid. That would be the normal interpretation of his remarks. His later clarification that it wasn't a bad raid is bullshit. Whether a CI lied or an officer lied, either way its a bad raid. I agree with Bama that the officers should have been given the death penalty. I'll bet Mrs Johnston thought it was a bad raid......... |
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Quoted: Bama was not taking up for the dirty cops, he was saying that the author of the article twisted the facts and made it look less severe than it actually was. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This Bama was not taking up for the dirty cops, he was saying that the author of the article twisted the facts and made it look less severe than it actually was. That wasn't clear. The implication I got was the story was untrue and it was a valid raid. That would be the normal interpretation of his remarks. His later clarification that it wasn't a bad raid is bullshit. Whether a CI lied or an officer lied, either way its a bad raid. I agree with Bama that the officers should have been given the death penalty. Entering a place based on information that proves to be bad intel, is a bad raid. Entering a place based on information that was made up by the cops that did the raid is far beyond a "bad raid" the cops involved should have gotten premeditated murder charges. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This Bama was not taking up for the dirty cops, he was saying that the author of the article twisted the facts and made it look less severe than it actually was. That wasn't clear. The implication I got was the story was untrue and it was a valid raid. That would be the normal interpretation of his remarks. His later clarification that it wasn't a bad raid is bullshit. Whether a CI lied or an officer lied, either way its a bad raid. I agree with Bama that the officers should have been given the death penalty. Entering a place based on information that proves to be bad intel, is a bad raid. Entering a place based on information that was made up by the cops themselves is far beyond a "bad raid" agreed, which is why I'm hoping Bama will clarify what he meant. Saying it wasn't a bad raid because the officers made the evidence up seems to be a clintonesque evasion. |
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These stories always confuse the shit out of me, because I can never figure out if they are protecting, or serving.
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Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid Link All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid Link All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death. I find it kind of odd they just happened to carry bags of drugs that day. |
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We had a swat raid against a farm for not stacking firewood properly. I gotta read that story. I can't find the original article from the newspaper but here ya go Enjoy Don't mess with Texas. It is a free state. |
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Can't you all see? The war on drugs is very successful. Successful at killing innocent people.
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Yep. The cops made the whole thing up. There was no informant. There was no investigation. They wanted a look in the house so they fabricated the whole case. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid Link All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death. Yep. The cops made the whole thing up. There was no informant. There was no investigation. They wanted a look in the house so they fabricated the whole case. What did the author lie about? |
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Just a few more bodies, guys, and we'll have won this war against those evil drugs.
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. View Quote What part of the statement is false? |
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Anyone who hasn't become increasingly uncomfortable with no-knocks, the "war" on drugs, etc is completely out to lunch and apparently wants their ass-wiped by the almighty state from cradle to grave... View Quote I don't mind no-knocks, but they seem to be handing them out far too frequently. If there is good evidence that a serial killer was holed up somewhere or some people were planning on setting off some bombs/other act of terrorism, sure. |
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No-knock warrants are for evidence preservation, not police safety, as was pointed out in the OP. Since they didn't find any evidence, why the no-knock? I'm guessing the taxpayers are going to be soaked good on this one. I know if I was one, I'd be calling for the chief's nuts, along with the judge who signed this bullshit warrant. View Quote No-Knock entry is constitutionally permissible when the occupant already knows of the officers' presence and purpose, when knocking and announcing would increase the danger to police or the occupants, and when knocking and announcing could lead to destruction of evidence. |
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Bama was not taking up for the dirty cops, he was saying that the author of the article twisted the facts and made it look less severe than it actually was. View Quote The author linked to this article (quote below) that plainly stated the facts. The author quote IMO is out of context and is referring to what the cops claimed (the fact the police made up the informant story). "We now know that these were all lies. In fact, everything about the Kathryn Johnston murder was corrupt. The initial arrest of the ex-con came via trumped-up charges. The police then invented an informant for the search warrant, and lied about overseeing a drug buy from Johnston's home." |
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No-Knock entry is constitutionally permissible when the occupant already knows of the officers' presence and purpose, when knocking and announcing would increase the danger to police or the occupants, and when knocking and announcing could lead to destruction of evidence. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No-knock warrants are for evidence preservation, not police safety, as was pointed out in the OP. Since they didn't find any evidence, why the no-knock? I'm guessing the taxpayers are going to be soaked good on this one. I know if I was one, I'd be calling for the chief's nuts, along with the judge who signed this bullshit warrant. No-Knock entry is constitutionally permissible when the occupant already knows of the officers' presence and purpose, when knocking and announcing would increase the danger to police or the occupants, and when knocking and announcing could lead to destruction of evidence. Years from now drone strikes will be Constitutional for the same reasoning. |
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One of my favorite lines from Bladerunner:
"You know the score pal, if you ain't cop, your little people!" And no, VA does not have a Castle Law, it clearly states that you cannot use deadly force to protect property. Though, if you feel your life is in danger you can. |
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That would be a head shot or is this like the Bama case where the 5 cops beat an unconsious man into coma then got fired and convicted only to have it overturned and them get their jobs back... They should all be still in prison even if the guy was guilty the video was bad...
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Again, why can't this shit happen to family members of:
SEAL TEAM X USMC Force Recon ARMY SF DELTA FORCE USMC STA Platoon ... Just askin'. Anyone that knows me knows that I'm not against the County Mounty. I'm am dead set against the WOD and unlawfulness {even if it is the Law} by Johnny Law. |
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Quoted: The author linked to this article (quote below) that plainly stated the facts. The author quote IMO is out of context and is referring to what the cops claimed (the fact the police made up the informant story). "We now know that these were all lies. In fact, everything about the Kathryn Johnston murder was corrupt. The initial arrest of the ex-con came via trumped-up charges. The police then invented an informant for the search warrant, and lied about overseeing a drug buy from Johnston's home." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Bama was not taking up for the dirty cops, he was saying that the author of the article twisted the facts and made it look less severe than it actually was. The author linked to this article (quote below) that plainly stated the facts. The author quote IMO is out of context and is referring to what the cops claimed (the fact the police made up the informant story). "We now know that these were all lies. In fact, everything about the Kathryn Johnston murder was corrupt. The initial arrest of the ex-con came via trumped-up charges. The police then invented an informant for the search warrant, and lied about overseeing a drug buy from Johnston's home." The article in the OP that was from the WAPO is the one that had a misrepresentation of facts, that omitted that fact that the informant was made up. The CNN article you linked to that had the part of the story you put in bold, Bama was agreeing with you. |
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Fire and Rope seem to be the answers to home invasions. Just sayin.
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Let me guess...no drugs found means the guy is white as snow and a model citizen? View Quote It's a pretty good indication that the burglar the police were working with is a liar. I mean the first clue is that he's a meth addicted burglar who explained the drugs found with him by saying "it's not my car!" |
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So you're saying a raid based on false information (from the officers, not a CI) doesn't fit under the umbrella of "bad raid" You do understand how that sounds, don't you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No the truth is worse than what the author wrote. If you are going to publish something at least be truthful. This case should not even be mentioned in a "bad raid" article because that is not what it was. So you're saying a raid based on false information (from the officers, not a CI) doesn't fit under the umbrella of "bad raid" You do understand how that sounds, don't you? It was something straight out of Training Day. |
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The article in the OP that was from the WAPO is the one that had a misrepresentation of facts, that omitted that fact that the informant was made up. The CNN article you linked to that had the part of the story you put in bold, Bama was agreeing with you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Bama was not taking up for the dirty cops, he was saying that the author of the article twisted the facts and made it look less severe than it actually was. The author linked to this article (quote below) that plainly stated the facts. The author quote IMO is out of context and is referring to what the cops claimed (the fact the police made up the informant story). "We now know that these were all lies. In fact, everything about the Kathryn Johnston murder was corrupt. The initial arrest of the ex-con came via trumped-up charges. The police then invented an informant for the search warrant, and lied about overseeing a drug buy from Johnston's home." The article in the OP that was from the WAPO is the one that had a misrepresentation of facts, that omitted that fact that the informant was made up. The CNN article you linked to that had the part of the story you put in bold, Bama was agreeing with you. The problem is Bama provided a quote from the OP and then stated it was lies. Any reasonable person would assume this to mean everything he quoted was a lie. How the fook are we supposed to know what part of the quote he's referring to? Now it just sounds like Bama is back-peddling to cover up his mistake, which is typical for most cops posting here when they are proven wrong. Quoted:
"a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation". Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. |
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The problem is Bama provided a quote from the OP and then stated it was lies. Any reasonable person would assume this to mean everything he quoted was a lie. How the fook are we supposed to know what part of the quote he's referring to? Now it just sounds like Bama is back-peddling to cover up his mistake, which is typical for most cops posting here when they are proven wrong. View Quote In all fairness, it is ridiculous how carefully cops have to parse their words here. But it's the reality of the situation. However, it was rather ambiguous. |
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How about the old fashion search warrant executed by patrol officers?
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In all fairness, it is ridiculous how carefully cops have to parse their words here. But it's the reality of the situation. However, it was rather ambiguous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The problem is Bama provided a quote from the OP and then stated it was lies. Any reasonable person would assume this to mean everything he quoted was a lie. How the fook are we supposed to know what part of the quote he's referring to? Now it just sounds like Bama is back-peddling to cover up his mistake, which is typical for most cops posting here when they are proven wrong. In all fairness, it is ridiculous how carefully cops have to parse their words here. But it's the reality of the situation. However, it was rather ambiguous. Life is like that. |
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. Ex-Atlanta officers get prison time for cover-up in deadly raid Link All three men pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death. Smith and Junnier also pleaded guilty to state charges of voluntary manslaughter and making false statements, and Smith admitted to planting bags of marijuana in Johnston's home after her death. http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/153/63/1063153.gif Modus operandi. Attack the article when it makes TBL look bad. I don't recall ever a time where Bama has been a TBL kind of guy. |
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. View Quote Perhaps they learned it from the police? |
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Did you check to see who the author is? You'll only need one guess. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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a narcotics team from Atlanta killed 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston during a drug raid on her home, then attempted to plant drugs in her basement to cover its mistake. The team had been relying on a tip from an informant and did no corroborating investigation. Why do authors lie about things like this? It just taints everything else they write. Did you check to see who the author is? You'll only need one guess. Now it makes sense. Should have known. |
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