http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0064403/

Wahlberg lashes out at Heston...

Yes.

Folks seem to forget that up until 9/11; SOP was to land and negotiate.

Hypocrisy you mean

Who the Hell does he think he is.....













John Travolta????

Can we plug in an xbox controller into the cockpit?  If so any child can step right up and handle it.

being an ACTOR seems to be a mental disorder for the majority..famous has nothing to do with it.  Lots of smart famous people, even a few smart actors,,Senisi, Grammer, Selleck, Cann,  etc,,

Pretty solid summary.



Game's changed. And if you listen to folks in the security business...the very fact that it's changed like it has is THE biggest defense against it happening again. Terrorists have to change their approach now that they know when/if they hijack a plane the plane WILL rise up against them.
 

This right here. Up until those on Flight 93 KNEW what the hijackers intended to do with the plane, they had incorrectly (but reasonably) assumed that they were hostages, not collateral damage waiting to happen, i.e. inevitable future victims. The other three planes' passengers probably assumed the same things the same way, but learned too late their actual status aboard those aircraft.



Now saying that you would have done something, now knowing that the hijackers were going to kamikaze those planes, when you would not have known that before, is just a retarded statement. Douchebag statement by a douchebag is douchebaggy.



 

Of course Marky Mark would do that, I mean look at this guy.  He's such a bad bass.

He's played in one too many action movies and has obviously lost touch with reality.

Just because he grew up in the ghetto doesn't mean he's tough.  He could have been a pork chop.  From what I've read about his childhood, he was a douche back then too.  He was more like one of those sideways wearing ball cap kids going around in a big pack jumping people for fun and hatred.

He looks constipated.

in todays reallity,,,  I can see mother theresa trying to claw the eyes out of a hijacker..

on 9/11/2001   and before ?
not so much ,,

Yeah, fuck that, no you wouldn't have. 99.9%+ of the population would likely do exactly what I would have done, and that is to sit in your fucking seat and fucking die.

If anything contradictory.    Hypocrisy is much too over used, and in the wrong contexts.  In this case, what I see on ARFCOM all the time, is that people will say one thing in one post, and a completely opposite in another, but it's not really hypocritical because in each post, they firmly believe it IMHO without pretense.





 

he became a scientologist, didn't he?

Hard to say what someone is going to do until they actually are in that situation, but it sounds like he has already made up his mind about what he would do.

I don't understand the point you're attempting to make with this comment.

I would have fought as well. A lot of bad things in this country happen because people cower instead of standing up. Landing the plane... That would be the tricky part.

I think people are yet again trying to find a reason to be offended.  The terrorists we knew in the past had guns and bombs these guys took over a plane with a fucking box cutters.  There is no reason they couldn't be overpowerd.

That about sums it up.

I think he might have been practicing for a role in his new blockbuster movie. " Tier 1 Douche Bag "

Didn't he murder someone back in the early 90's? Dude's always been an assfaced punk

Celebrities are legends in their minds.

Yes, and the cockpit door is large enough to get pilot's ego through.

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I don't either.  It wasn't conditioning, it was the right thing to do.  Before 9/11 almost every hijack case was a ransom situation.  The right thing to do was to play along until the plane was safely on the ground and you could make a move.  First and foremost the plan was to get the plane on the ground safely and then go from there.

Could and would are completely different things.  I have serious doubts that anyone on this board would have fought if they were on any flight other than United 93, simply because at the time, hijackings were non fatal.  Trying to fight the hijackers in the air is dangerous and could result in you directly causing the deaths of hundreds of people.  Waiting for them to land, as every other hijacked flight as done, is much safer and allows for reinforcements.  Claiming that you would fight is blowhard nonsense.

Changing the topic a bit, but I never understood how folks on U93 received phone calls.  They want you to turn off your phone while in flight.  Did someone switch it on after the hijacking took place and happen to get a call or what?

That's a bit disingenuous. Just because fiction stories and tin-foil "documentaries" said it was a possibility, doesn't mean anyone, on any of those flights had the slightest inkling (because it was unthinkable) that they would be sacrificed/murdered in a terrorist action that would lead to the death of thousands.

I make that statement as someone who spent 8 years in a Muslim country, as an outsider, and who was VERY aware of the fact that hijackings were a "cost of doing business" if you were going to travel by plane around the Middle East in the seventies and eighties. Between the PLO and the Libyans amongst others, terrorism was very much a daily fact of life over there. I never heard ANYONE suggest that fighting back was a sane and rational course of action. Mostly because it was WIDELY viewed as unnecessary based on the history of events.

duh! He would have just refused to go on-camera until the script writer re-wrote the scene to have him save the day. All he would have needed were a couple stunt doubles, a fight-coach to rehearse the moves and an aviation technical advisor to give him some buzz words to say while he landed the plnae safely on the National Mall. Celeberties, is there anything they can't do

Say hi to your mother for me.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/mark-wahlberg-talks-to-animals/727504/

At the risk of sounding like an internet blowhard; if my plane is hijacked, the FAA rules against electronic devices while in transit in an airplane can suck a fart out of my ass hole. Just sayin'

Hmmm, not seeing what he said wrong.

Asshole is right, here's all I need to know about this guy.

As a teenager, Wahlberg participated in several acts of violence for which he was charged, later claiming to have been in trouble 20-25 times with the Boston Police Department as a youth.[4] At 15 he harassed a group of African American school children on a field trip by throwing rocks (causing injuries) and shouting racist epithets.[5] When he was 16, while under the influence of cocaine and alcohol (again using racist language) he knocked a middle aged Vietnamese man unconscious with a wooden stick and left another Vietnamese man permanently blind in one eye. In an interview for Inside the Actor's Studio, he admitted that he has no recollections of the incident, because he passed out just before the police caught him. For these crimes Wahlberg was charged for attempted murder, pled guilty to assault, and spent 45 days in jail at Boston's Deer Island House of Correction.[6][7] In yet another incident when he was 21 Wahlberg fractured the jaw of a neighbor in an unprovoked attack.

"Actor Mark Wahlberg Assaulted Vietnamese Americans in Hate Crime,"

Criminal Complaint, In the Suffolk County Superior Court, Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 1988

At approximately 9:00 p.m. on April 8, 1988 Thanh Lam, a Vietnamese adult male who resides in Dorchester, traveled by car to 998 Dorchester Avenue, Dorchester, Massachusetts. At 998 Dorchester Avenue, Thanh Lam left his car carrying two cases of beer. As he crossed the sidewalk, Mark Wahlberg attacked Thanh Lam. Wahlberg was carrying a large wooden stick, approximately five feet long and two to three inches in diameter. Wahlberg approached Thanh Lam calling him a "Vietnam fu-king $hit," then hit him over the head with the stick. Thanh Lam was knocked to the ground unconscious. Th[e] stick broke in two and was later recovered from the scene. Thanh Lam was treated overnight at Boston City Hospital.

After police arrested Wahlberg later on the night of April 8, 1988, Wahlberg was informed of his rights and returned to the scene of 998 Dorchester Avenue. In the presence of two police officers, he stated: "You don't have to let him identify me, I'll tell you now that's the mother-fu-ker who's head I split open," or words to that effect.

As a police officer arrived at the scene of 998 Dorchester Avenue, Wahlberg and two other youths who were with him fled up Dorchester Avenue toward Pearl Street .

Shortly after 9:00 p.m. on April 8, 1988, Hoa Trinh, an adult Vietnamese male who resides in Dorchester, was standing several blocks away from 998 Dorchester Avenue, near the corner of Dorchester Avenue and Pearl Street. Hoa Trinh was not aware of the altercation outside of 998 Dorchester Avenue.

Wahlberg ran up to Hoa Trinh, put his arm around Hoa Trinh's shoulder, and said: "Police coming, police coming, let me hide." After a police cruiser passed, Wahlberg punched Trinh in the eye, causing him to fall to the ground.

Police arrived and Hoa Trinh identified Wahlberg as the person who punched him. Wahlberg was placed under arrest and read his rights. Thereafter he made numerous unsolicited racial statements about "g@@ks" and "slant-eyed g@@ks." After being returned to 998 Dorchester Avenue, Wahlberg identified Thanh Lam as the person he hit over the head with a stick.

Trinh lost one of his "slanted" eyes due to the attack. Wahlberg plead guilty to two counts of criminal contempt, was sentenced to two years imprisonment, and was released after 45 days.

Although Wahlberg describes his incarceration as a "turning point" in his life, to this day he continues to deny that race played a role in either attack.

Yeah he's a real class act and I'm not surprised he's all for banning firearms.

Not blowhardish at all.  Obviously someone had to have switched on their phone.  

 

He prolly would have curled up on the deck and cried like a little pussy.

Easy to be a tough guy when you play one on TV.

This is not something to get mad about.

Bruce Dickinson would have landed the plane.

This is GD, righteous indignation is a way of life.

ROIDS

Pilots are short as a general rule.

I wonder how long that will last.  In 30 years, will passengers feel the same way, especially if hijackers immediately make their intention (whether real or not) or landing in Mexico/Cuba/whereever?

+1

Exactly! The last hijacking fatality on a US passenger plane prior to 9/11 was 1987. Passengers would not fight back because they thought if they cooperated everything would be OK and they simply would be inconvenienced by the event.

My best friend in the world called me an hour after the planes hit and said why did they not fight?

This guy and I have taken on some really bad situations when we were young, stuff i'm surprised we survived.

I have no idea what would have happened but the second they slit a stewardesses throat it would have been game on to the fucking death.