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Link Posted: 6/20/2014 1:27:17 AM EDT
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Crazy thing for me is the guy basically has the greatest job in the world (Full time team on entry) and he pissed it away. I kinda wonder what his wife looked like, making 2k a weekend 'escorting'.





As for people condemning the other team members saying they have to have known about the ammo/brass issue it depends. A SWAT team is given a lot of ammo to practice. Especially a full time team. A guy could easily walk off with a few hundred rounds here a few thousand rounds there and it would go unaccounted for. As for the brass I'm assuming they were lax in how that was handled. Some departments sell it. Some throw it away. If they didn't have set procedure of collecting/selling brass and he did it on its own.....



All in all pretty freaking shady. Best job ever and he pisses it away.





Should police be able to profile people on the streets based on race, stereotypes, etc.? Probably not. Its highly effective but is frowned upon.

Same goes for steroids.


I know at least half a dozen police officer who everyone swears are on roids. Funny thing is they get 'random drug tests' much more frequently then any other officers.

I know 2 of them well and its not uncommon for them to have 2-3 workouts per day. I know a guy who'll literally stop by his gym for a 'quick' workout any time he's driving past and isn't in a rush.

Everyone claims roids but the guy has literally put 2-3 hours a day in the gym for 10+ years and has an impeccable diet.
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Crazy thing for me is the guy basically has the greatest job in the world (Full time team on entry) and he pissed it away. I kinda wonder what his wife looked like, making 2k a weekend 'escorting'.





As for people condemning the other team members saying they have to have known about the ammo/brass issue it depends. A SWAT team is given a lot of ammo to practice. Especially a full time team. A guy could easily walk off with a few hundred rounds here a few thousand rounds there and it would go unaccounted for. As for the brass I'm assuming they were lax in how that was handled. Some departments sell it. Some throw it away. If they didn't have set procedure of collecting/selling brass and he did it on its own.....



All in all pretty freaking shady. Best job ever and he pisses it away.




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Did anyone on the PD look at this guy and think maybe he was on steroids? If the police don't notice their fellow officers are involved in crimes, how can they be trusted to solve any crimes?

Should police be able to profile people on the streets based on race, stereotypes, etc.? Probably not. Its highly effective but is frowned upon.

Same goes for steroids.


I know at least half a dozen police officer who everyone swears are on roids. Funny thing is they get 'random drug tests' much more frequently then any other officers.

I know 2 of them well and its not uncommon for them to have 2-3 workouts per day. I know a guy who'll literally stop by his gym for a 'quick' workout any time he's driving past and isn't in a rush.

Everyone claims roids but the guy has literally put 2-3 hours a day in the gym for 10+ years and has an impeccable diet.


I seem to remember similar things being said about Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 2:15:26 AM EDT
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Have a feeling a lot of that SWAT team and PD knew there was some hinky stuff going on and said nothing.

Also sounds like someone needs to clean house and break it off in the asses of the cops that alerted him that they [head brass] were on to him.

There is going to be some very worried people if he makes bail.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 2:26:09 AM EDT
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Shot with this guy at an indoor match. He's rrrrrrrreally good. Seemed like a nice guy, too. If found guilty, fuckem though.
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Sounds like his Wife is ever better.  
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 4:55:48 AM EDT
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...wrong guy
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 5:18:01 AM EDT
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That looks to be Pete Wright of Praetor Defense.  Plus the avatar at the bottom is a white guy not black.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 7:40:17 AM EDT
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Very had to believe that other range guys weren't aware of the ammo going missing, or how the brass was being handled. If the majority of the slush funds were going towards gear for the whole team, not just into his pockets, they would have been incentivized to look the other way.




When investigators come to interview you, "I had no idea that was happening, and that is not allowed," is the answer of self-preservation, plausible or not.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 7:40:17 AM EDT
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I'm willing to bet there was some team building skills going on.

"Hey, who wants to come over and fuck my wife after training today?"

Link Posted: 6/20/2014 8:34:01 AM EDT
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Wow... I met Darrion a few times.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 8:35:44 AM EDT
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Pimping out his wife?  Yikes!
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 8:37:44 AM EDT
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I have trained with King County guys and they all seemed squared away. This really is a shocking story.

Allegedly many in the dept. knew about this.

How the fuck do guys think they aren't going to get caught for bullshit like this?
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Now this is an isolated incident if I've ever seen one.


I have trained with King County guys and they all seemed squared away. This really is a shocking story.

Allegedly many in the dept. knew about this.

How the fuck do guys think they aren't going to get caught for bullshit like this?


You answered your own question.

Allegedly, many in the dept. knew about this.

Yet no one turned him in.

THAT is how guys think they aren't going to get caught for bullshit like this.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 8:44:37 AM EDT
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So I watched the video. He got tipped off about the search warrant on his house and "boating accident-ed" all his guns and ammo before it was served.



Definitely need to know his screen name.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 8:47:28 AM EDT
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Charging papers



http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2014/06/19/Sheriffs_investigation_charge.pdf
Other officers are under investigation



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A King County sheriff's deputy was arrested Thursday for investigation of promoting prostitution, theft and drugs.


But the problems extend far beyond the lone deputy, Sheriff John Urquhart said at a Thursday afternoon news briefing.


Members
of the SWAT team were aware that the deputy, Darrion Keith Holiwell,
was taking brass shells from a gun range where SWAT practices and sold
them. Money went to a slush fund that was said to be affiliated with the
Sheriff’s Office – but Urquhart said Holiwell kept that fund secret
from commanders.


There is also evidence that Holiwell sold
steroids to members of the SWAT team. But the Sheriff’s Office can’t say
exactly how many deputies may be steroid users – it’s against the law
for them to test







....




He also said there may be other charges for additional deputies who
are being investigated. A major crimes detective is under investigation
for rendering criminal assistance and obstruction because she’s believed
to have tipped Holiwell when she learned of the investigation.


That detective is one of two Sheriff Office staff on paid administrative leave during the investigation.








Link Posted: 6/20/2014 8:47:33 AM EDT
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Pic of wife please. We need a guilty or not guilty on her.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 8:51:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2014 8:58:33 AM EDT
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i like his cute little tactical outfits. i wonder if he wears them around the house, or just at the range.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:01:07 AM EDT
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i like his cute little tactical outfits. i wonder if he wears them around the house, or just at the range.
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Range, and probably when he's bringing his wife drugs so she can zone out to have sex with strangers for money.  Maybe when he's shooting testosterone also.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:06:54 AM EDT
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He was a fixture in USPSA matches here in the NW for a while.  I've seen him at some of the larger matches, talked to him and some of the guys he ran with, never squadded with him though.



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I squadded with him several times.  The guy was SMOOTH and FAST.  Great shooter.  Seemed like he had his shit together with lots of local industry folks as well.  What a dumbass though.

 
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:26:34 AM EDT
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If they knew and did nothing about it they should share a cell with him.
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Now this is an isolated incident if I've ever seen one.


I have trained with King County guys and they all seemed squared away. This really is a shocking story.

Allegedly many in the dept. knew about this.

How the fuck do guys think they aren't going to get caught for bullshit like this?

Can't be that shocking if many in the dept knew about it.



If they knew and did nothing about it they should share a cell with him.

EXACTLY
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:29:38 AM EDT
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The steroids thing is obvious. Men his age do not have that much muscle mass at that low of a bodyfat percentage. That's a clue.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:30:21 AM EDT
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Shot with this guy at an indoor match. He's rrrrrrrreally good. Seemed like a nice guy, too. If found guilty, fuckem though.
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Unlimited free ammo and range time has that effect.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:31:55 AM EDT
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That might explain his wife's sex addiction.
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"When seconds count, we work in tenths.” From his website.
 


That might explain his wife's sex addiction.


Or the roids created some performance issues for him that lead to the wife needing a stunt cock.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:35:08 AM EDT
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Found a Praetor patch I had in a desk drawer...

Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:36:13 AM EDT
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Crazy thing for me is the guy basically has the greatest job in the world (Full time team on entry) and he pissed it away. I kinda wonder what his wife looked like, making 2k a weekend 'escorting'.





As for people condemning the other team members saying they have to have known about the ammo/brass issue it depends. A SWAT team is given a lot of ammo to practice. Especially a full time team. A guy could easily walk off with a few hundred rounds here a few thousand rounds there and it would go unaccounted for. As for the brass I'm assuming they were lax in how that was handled. Some departments sell it. Some throw it away. If they didn't have set procedure of collecting/selling brass and he did it on its own.....



All in all pretty freaking shady. Best job ever and he pisses it away.





Should police be able to profile people on the streets based on race, stereotypes, etc.? Probably not. Its highly effective but is frowned upon.

Same goes for steroids.


I know at least half a dozen police officer who everyone swears are on roids. Funny thing is they get 'random drug tests' much more frequently then any other officers.

I know 2 of them well and its not uncommon for them to have 2-3 workouts per day. I know a guy who'll literally stop by his gym for a 'quick' workout any time he's driving past and isn't in a rush.

Everyone claims roids but the guy has literally put 2-3 hours a day in the gym for 10+ years and has an impeccable diet.
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Crazy thing for me is the guy basically has the greatest job in the world (Full time team on entry) and he pissed it away. I kinda wonder what his wife looked like, making 2k a weekend 'escorting'.





As for people condemning the other team members saying they have to have known about the ammo/brass issue it depends. A SWAT team is given a lot of ammo to practice. Especially a full time team. A guy could easily walk off with a few hundred rounds here a few thousand rounds there and it would go unaccounted for. As for the brass I'm assuming they were lax in how that was handled. Some departments sell it. Some throw it away. If they didn't have set procedure of collecting/selling brass and he did it on its own.....



All in all pretty freaking shady. Best job ever and he pisses it away.




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Did anyone on the PD look at this guy and think maybe he was on steroids? If the police don't notice their fellow officers are involved in crimes, how can they be trusted to solve any crimes?

Should police be able to profile people on the streets based on race, stereotypes, etc.? Probably not. Its highly effective but is frowned upon.

Same goes for steroids.


I know at least half a dozen police officer who everyone swears are on roids. Funny thing is they get 'random drug tests' much more frequently then any other officers.

I know 2 of them well and its not uncommon for them to have 2-3 workouts per day. I know a guy who'll literally stop by his gym for a 'quick' workout any time he's driving past and isn't in a rush.

Everyone claims roids but the guy has literally put 2-3 hours a day in the gym for 10+ years and has an impeccable diet.


Grown men need PEDS to recover fast enough for "2 - 3 workouts per day."

some light reading. This guys a hater, but his usually right. http://nattyornot.com/differences-between-natural-and-roided-bodybuilders/
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:37:32 AM EDT
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Anyone ever meet his wife?

There HAS to be pics on CL or "lifestyle" sites
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:39:07 AM EDT
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Lots of cops of the roids
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:45:18 AM EDT
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A man that's willing to pimp out his wife is a man to which almost no depravity is alien.

This guy, no matter how nice he seemed, has a fuck ton of skeletons in his closet, far more than he's been called on to date.

Guaranteed.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:46:12 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:48:11 AM EDT
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I'm willing to bet there was some team building skills going on.

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I'm willing to bet there was indeed some team building skills going on, but that none of it involved them banging his wife, and all of it revolved around Vitamin Test-E
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:49:49 AM EDT
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Damn those text messages are pretty damming for him knowing she is hooking on the side.  Dayum.
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It's a good thing that Internal affairs caught up to him before God did, or we
Could have another Gabe Suarez on out hands.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:50:02 AM EDT
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I should have clarified, many in the SWAT team allegedly knew about it. Not all the regular deputies.
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Now this is an isolated incident if I've ever seen one.


I have trained with King County guys and they all seemed squared away. This really is a shocking story.

Allegedly many in the dept. knew about this.

How the fuck do guys think they aren't going to get caught for bullshit like this?

Can't be that shocking if many in the dept knew about it.



I should have clarified, many in the SWAT team allegedly knew about it. Not all the regular deputies.


So ....Just the best of the best of the best looks the other way....got it
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:50:24 AM EDT
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Found a Praetor patch I had in a desk drawer...

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It's like a challenge coin for his wife's snootch
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:52:00 AM EDT
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did you read the article? his wife contacted his ex-wife about beinf abused and the ex wife contacted the SD on her behalf. Sounds like he was forcing the wife to turn tricks.
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Now this is an isolated incident if I've ever seen one.


I have trained with King County guys and they all seemed squared away. This really is a shocking story.

Allegedly many in the dept. knew about this.

How the fuck do guys think they aren't going to get caught for bullshit like this?


I can't tell if you were joking, or were serious when you asked that question....



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Remember, it wasn't his fellow crooked cops that snitched him out, it was his whore wife.


did you read the article? his wife contacted his ex-wife about beinf abused and the ex wife contacted the SD on her behalf. Sounds like he was forcing the wife to turn tricks.


I got all of this.

But I did not get that.  I read the part in red as her prostitution being a mutual agreement between the two since she was already sleeping behind his back.  But once he started banging another chick on the side, she got pissy about it, resulting in physical fights and leading to her calling his ex to inquire about a history of physical abuse.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:56:59 AM EDT
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according to the documents Rainier Arms got some of the stolen brass. I doubt they knew it was stolen property.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 9:58:18 AM EDT
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That guy is fucked, probably a lot of his associates are going to be in the same boat.

If he was pimping out his wife to his co-workers it could possibly bring down a whole department.
The steroid thing, the article states that is illegal to test for use in the dept.
I bet that policy will be challenged after this mess.

What a douchebag.

Link Posted: 6/20/2014 10:00:46 AM EDT
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Enterprising little piggy , aint he .

He should have all sorts of buddies already in GenPop
 
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That'll go over well.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 10:14:07 AM EDT
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I got all of this.

But I did not get that.  I read the part in red as her prostitution being a mutual agreement between the two since she was already sleeping behind his back.  But once he started banging another chick on the side, she got pissy about it, resulting in physical fights and leading to her calling his ex to inquire about a history of physical abuse.
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Now this is an isolated incident if I've ever seen one.


I have trained with King County guys and they all seemed squared away. This really is a shocking story.

Allegedly many in the dept. knew about this.

How the fuck do guys think they aren't going to get caught for bullshit like this?


I can't tell if you were joking, or were serious when you asked that question....



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Remember, it wasn't his fellow crooked cops that snitched him out, it was his whore wife.


did you read the article? his wife contacted his ex-wife about beinf abused and the ex wife contacted the SD on her behalf. Sounds like he was forcing the wife to turn tricks.


I got all of this.

But I did not get that.  I read the part in red as her prostitution being a mutual agreement between the two since she was already sleeping behind his back.  But once he started banging another chick on the side, she got pissy about it, resulting in physical fights and leading to her calling his ex to inquire about a history of physical abuse.


Yep. She was cheating. He suggested she get paid for it if she was gonna cheat. She agreed. He slept with her friend. She got mad and went all stabby stab on his couch and cried to someone who reported him. i do not see any credible allegations of domestic violence commited by him in the documents posted so far.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 10:14:49 AM EDT
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Oh, well gee, that's better.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 10:22:28 AM EDT
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Oh, well gee, that's better.
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I should have clarified, many in the SWAT team allegedly knew about it. Not all the regular deputies.


Oh, well gee, that's better.


Yeah, that's much more reassuring.  "Don't worry, it's only the guys with the battering rams and no-knocks that are crooked as hell."
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 10:24:35 AM EDT
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Yeah, that's much more reassuring.  "Don't worry, it's only the guys with the battering rams and no-knocks that are crooked as hell."
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I should have clarified, many in the SWAT team allegedly knew about it. Not all the regular deputies.


Oh, well gee, that's better.


Yeah, that's much more reassuring.  "Don't worry, it's only the guys with the battering rams and no-knocks that are crooked as hell."


My point was, its not a department wide conspiracy.
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 10:29:00 AM EDT
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With $150,000 bail I would be worried about this guy bonding out and going full Dorner.

Link Posted: 6/20/2014 10:30:54 AM EDT
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I dunno..

The woman divorcing him is claiming he 'prostituted her out'.

May be true or may be a bunch of stuff made up by a vindictive wife...

AFARR
Link Posted: 6/20/2014 10:30:55 AM EDT
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A Seattle Police Department Officer was just placed on Paid reassignment for being implicated in the drug transactions.


It grows.
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I dunno..

The woman divorcing him is claiming he 'prostituted her out'.

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The Sheriff explained on the radio yesterday that they corroborated it several different ways... in explicit detail (he said something to that effect).
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I dunno..

The woman divorcing him is claiming he 'prostituted her out'.

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The text msgs are in the report[;)

Link Posted: 6/20/2014 10:40:29 AM EDT
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Yeah and apparently this one can shoot and knows all of the swat tactics
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Yeah, that's much more reassuring.  "Don't worry, it's only the guys with the battering rams and no-knocks that are crooked as hell."
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Oh, well gee, that's better.


Yeah, that's much more reassuring.  "Don't worry, it's only the guys with the battering rams and no-knocks that are crooked as hell."



Are you saying he is going to pimp my dog?
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Yep. She was cheating. He suggested she get paid for it if she was gonna cheat. She agreed. He slept with her friend. She got mad and went all stabby stab on his couch and cried to someone who reported him. i do not see any credible allegations of domestic violence commited by him in the documents posted so far.
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Now this is an isolated incident if I've ever seen one.

I have trained with King County guys and they all seemed squared away. This really is a shocking story.

Allegedly many in the dept. knew about this.

How the fuck do guys think they aren't going to get caught for bullshit like this?


I can't tell if you were joking, or were serious when you asked that question....



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Remember, it wasn't his fellow crooked cops that snitched him out, it was his whore wife.


[span style='font-weight: bold;'][span style='color: blue;']did you read the article? his wife contacted his ex-wife about beinf abused and the ex wife contacted the SD on her behalf.[/span][/span] [span style='font-weight: bold;'][span style='color: red;']Sounds like he was forcing the wife to turn tricks.[/span][/span]


[span style='color: blue;'][span style='font-weight: bold;']I got all of this.[/span][/span]

[span style='font-weight: bold;'][span style='color: red;']But I did not get that.  I read the part in red as her prostitution being a mutual agreement between the two since she was already sleeping behind his back.  But once he started banging another chick on the side, she got pissy about it, resulting in physical fights and leading to her calling his ex to inquire about a history of physical abuse.[/span][/span]


Yep. She was cheating. He suggested she get paid for it if she was gonna cheat. She agreed. He slept with her friend. She got mad and went all stabby stab on his couch and cried to someone who reported him. i do not see any credible allegations of domestic violence commited by him in the documents posted so far.



And he managed this pimping, dealing, etc on duty
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Yeah and apparently this one can shoot and knows all of the swat tactics
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With $150,000 bail I would be worried about this guy bonding out and going full Dorner.




Yeah and apparently this one can shoot and knows all of the swat tactics

If I recall correctly he is was the one training the SWAT team the tactics...
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cops on steriods!  unpossible.
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