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Quoted: In my 50 years of voting I've never seen a group disparage the presumptive nominee of their party like here on Arfcom. To what end? Is it sour grapes? I don't get it. View Quote You're kidding right? Is your memory so short that you have forgotten the rancor levied at Bush Romney or McCain?? |
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Quoted: In my 50 years of voting I've never seen a group disparage the presumptive nominee of their party like here on Arfcom. To what end? Is it sour grapes? I don't get it. View Quote Truth be told. A "Shitty Person" is a "Shitty Person". As a Person, Trump is one of THE Shittiest people on the planet. Cheated on his wifes (all three) & destroyed marriages made in vows before God. Decades of Shady business practices including multiple bankruptcies' leaving others to pay the cost for his mistakes. Paid a porn starlet for sex, and then paid her again to keep quiet about it. Trump is just an absolute Shit person - no matter what the "Q" crewe think of him in their worship of him as "America's Savior". Trump is a If a Republican President is in office, a Democrat can't name new justices to the SCOTUS. I will still vote straight ticket "Republican" for the PARTY and the NATION in 2024, but I'm certainly not voting FOR "Donald Trump" - Total Bag of Shit that he is. Make no mistake, Joe Biden. & The Democrats are total & Complete Crap. They flat out suck! But if actual Conservative Republicans will embrace a flip flopping "Populist" with no moral values like Trump instead of real actual.committed Conservatives then we are completely screwed both on the next election and for us down the line in future elections. The Folks that Still Worship Donald Trump as being the Savior of the Nation and God's own Appointed come to Save Us All is laughable with such a terrible candidate whom the folks in the Middle (who decide elections) - just love to loath. Trump blew what should have been a easy win in 2020, and I believe Trump can be such a colossal ass he can do it all over again in 2024. Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: You're kidding right? Is your memory so short that you have forgotten the rancor levied at Bush Romney or McCain?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In my 50 years of voting I've never seen a group disparage the presumptive nominee of their party like here on Arfcom. To what end? Is it sour grapes? I don't get it. You're kidding right? Is your memory so short that you have forgotten the rancor levied at Bush Romney or McCain?? Yep. Fuck those pieces of shit as well. |
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Quoted: Those are legitimate questions, many of which have been addressed - not PROOF. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Georgia was called by 11,779 votes. The second machine count was over 17,000 votes "short." Fulton County was instructed to "reconcile" the results by the Secretary of State, and recertified its results without divulging the extent of the vote deficiency to members of the Fulton County Board of Registrations and Elections. "Thousands of bogus votes" were ultimately added into the Election results via the second machine count. This includes 20,977 unsubstantiated votes of unknown origin. The results were missing 17,852 ballot images, and included 3,125 duplicate ballot images that were counted twice. At least 2,871 ballots were counted two or three times in the second machine count, totaling 6,118 questionable votes. Eighty-eight percent of Fulton County's precincts reported a different total number of votes between the first and second machine count. Wisconsin was called by 20,682 votes. There were just 56,978 indefinitely confined votes in 2016, and roughly 70,000 43 in 2019. In 2020, however, there were 220,404 votes cast using indefinite confinement status. Over 77 percent of these individuals had never been listed as indefinitely confined before. The Wisconsin Legislative Audit Bureau identified 48,554 people who voted as indefinitely confined in November 2020 who had never provided photo identification or did not have photo identifications on file with clerks, which is more than twice the vote margin of 20,682. Pennsylvania was called by 80,555 votes. Republican lawmakers, led by State Representative Frank Ryan, were tracking the vote discrepancy in real time in the Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors (SURE) system. Ryan, a certified public accountant, initially reported that there were 170,830 more votes than voters in the Presidential race, more than twice the margin in Pennsylvania. "These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed, and in error," the lawmakers said. ARIZONA Arizona was called by a margin of 10,457 votes. Maricopa County accepted 20,500 mail-in ballots after Election Day 2020, including 18,000 more than the entire election margin on Nov. 4 picked up from the U.S. Postal Service. By law, ballots must be received no later than 7 p.m. on Election Day, which was Nov. 3. Since the findings were presented to the Arizona State Legislature, the number of egregious mismatches found has increased to 76,354, over seven times the election margin. This is an error rate of 9.30 percent of ballot envelopes reviewed. Michigan was called by 154,188 votes. As of December 2023, Michigan has 271,566 more votes than the number of voters listed in its Qualified Voter File for Nov. 3, 2020, more than one and a half times the Election margin. And this is not even the tip of the iceberg. It's one tiny corner of a half an atom's worth of the meaningful indicators that "YOU NEED TO INVESTIGATE THIS" that we saw. People will read this and invent crap excuses to ignore it. Those are legitimate questions, many of which have been addressed - not PROOF. See? Exactly like I said it would be. "But it's not what I arbitrarily call proof, so my mental house of cards is safe!" And if you go down the rabbit hole, the next bit will be you saying how the courts didn't let any of the cases happen. Than I'll tell you to go look and see why. and you'll refuse. And anything that doesn't fit (with what you say you want) that was not allowed to happen will never qualify in that script processor between your ears as "proof." Anything, anything at all besides digging in and seeing what happened. I can post you the links to the testimony. You'll bitch and whine that you don't have the time. edits in red. |
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Quoted: "Someone else took from me, it was wrong for them to take it. Therefore: I have the right to get the government to wrongfully take it from you and give it to me" why? Because it was wrong when they took it from me! Hatred and envy and entitlement. Want to seen an example? Here you go: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Bipartisan-agreement-that-the-rich-s-401ks-must-be-destroyed-for-social-security-to-thrive/5-2705458/?r=-1&page=10&anc=107879213#i107886960 Every single time I have seen an SSI thread come up, this happens. View Quote That's a completely different issue. Social Security is a hot-button topic, and the guy that posted "Pay me" is simply expressing his frustration that he paid money for decades and now is being maligned for wanting to cash in on the same gig. I, too, agree that SS is a total pyramid scheme that can't be sustained, but telling people that they will get screwed out of what they're expecting is necessarily going to raise hackles. That's not the same thing as being a communist by any stretch. |
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Quoted: I'll quote myself here: I'll grant you, they are not doctrinaire marxists, but they are following the same underlying thought processes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is SSI and the support of SSI communism or socialism? I'll quote myself here: I'll grant you, they are not doctrinaire marxists, but they are following the same underlying thought processes. The question stands. You implied that SSI proponents are communists. I question that assertation. |
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Quoted: See? Exactly like I said it would be. "But it's not what I arbitrarily call proof, so my mental house of cards is safe!" And if you go down the rabbit hole, the next bit will be you saying how the courts didn't let any of the cases happen. Than I'll tell you to go look and see why. and you'll refuse. And anything that doesn't fit (with what you say you want) that was not allowed to happen will never qualify in that script processor between your ears as "proof." Anything, anything at all besides digging in and seeing what happened. I can post you the links to the testimony. You'll bitch and whine that you don't have the time. edits in red. View Quote That's some circular logic right, as has already been pointed out:
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Quoted: Here's my problem with your claim: There is a tendency to blame everything on the government, where "the government" is seen as some evil nameless, faceless - and most importantly - monolithic entity. The government consists of thousands and thousands of INDIVIDUALS, each with their own opinions, morals, beliefs, etc. While the majority of them are probably Demoracts, there are a fair number of Republicans in the mix too. In order for "the government" to be capable of what it is accused of, you would have to have every single individual that makes up the government participate in said evil behavior, none of them speaking out against injustices. You don't think that there's a single person who is willing to speak out if a government program participated in domestic false flag or terrorist attacks, for example? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yeah... no reason to believe our government engages in false flag terror attacks/provoking and encouraging terrorist attacks. Yeah I'm sure the court findings from the Curtis Culwell Center terrorist attacks, was all just "Muh Russian Propaganda". People like you will believe any allegation against Russia, if it makes Russia look bad. But if there was a literal mountain of evidence of wrongdoing by our own government, you just handwave it and go "LOL OK conspiratard". Here's my problem with your claim: There is a tendency to blame everything on the government, where "the government" is seen as some evil nameless, faceless - and most importantly - monolithic entity. The government consists of thousands and thousands of INDIVIDUALS, each with their own opinions, morals, beliefs, etc. While the majority of them are probably Demoracts, there are a fair number of Republicans in the mix too. In order for "the government" to be capable of what it is accused of, you would have to have every single individual that makes up the government participate in said evil behavior, none of them speaking out against injustices. You don't think that there's a single person who is willing to speak out if a government program participated in domestic false flag or terrorist attacks, for example? Sometimes it blew wide open into a full fledged scandal that is now a matter of public record. Sometimes, the Government does a good job of sweeping it under the rug and pretending nothing happened...discrediting the accusers. Look, think about this logically. Only a small percentage of crimes ever get reported. Only a small percentage of those reported crimes, results in an actual arrest. Only a percentage of those, ends up with an actual conviction. What is our conclusion? That only crimes that have a corresponding conviction, ever happened? OR do we logically conclude, what has *ALWAYS* been widely known and not disputed... that the vast vast majority of crimes go unpunished. Most of these street crimes are committed by seriously low IQ people... yet they still manage to mostly get away with it the majority of the time. Why is it so hard to believe this isn't the case with the government? Why is it so hard to believe that all the scandals that have been openly admitted because there was too much evidence to deny... are just "the tip of the iceberg"? The stuff we *KNOW* the government has done in the past, is bad enough. Why don't people speak out against injusticies? Many possible reasons. Not the least of which is the banality of evil. In order to have someone become a whistleblower... they need to have several qualities and circumstances surrounding them for them to be capable of exposing anything with any level of success. They need to have concrete evidence of the wrong doing. This can often be avoided by simple compartmentalization of duties. They need to have upstanding moral character, and a desire for justice. They need to have moral courage, to be willing to put their own life, and the lives of their FAMILY on the line. They need to be ideologically opposed to the regime, and its actions... as such that they don't somehow "rationalize" away the injustice or come to the conclusion "Yea, it might be illegal/unconstitutional... but THEY DESERVE IT!" or "ITS FOR THE GREATER GOOD!" They need to believe that their coming out, will have any affect. Remember, if you don't think you'll make an impact... would you be willing to put your life on the line, and those of your family for potentially no chance of success? They need to be credible, and there not be any reason to doubt their testimony. Then there is the aforementioned "Banality of evil". That there is a sort of "normalcy bias" and that some people start working somewhere, start to see some screwed up stuff going on... but just grow accustomed to it and think its fine. By your argument, there never should be ANY scandals the US Government can get away with for decades at a time. But history shows us thats not true. Lets look at mostly undisputed scandals and conspiracies that have been proven true. Northwoods Documents Radiation experiments on poor people. Tuskegee Experiments That pro-western libyan family that was kidnapped by the intelligence community, and then handed off to Qadaffi as part of some screwed up backroom "deal" only for them to be tortured by Qadaffi. MK Ultra Experiments (IIRC, Charles Manson had some connection to it) Patriot ACT abuses/FISA court rubberstamping. The Fives Eyes literally being nothing more than a loophole to allow western governments to claim they "dont spy on their own people"... because yknow,... they have their allies do it for them and just share the intel. That missionary family that was shotdown by the CIA in south America, and for 10 years was lied about by our own government until finally admitting culpability. Jeffrey Epstein/ Ghislaine Maxwell's connections to the intelligence community. Epstein had met with the current head of the CIA for "career advice" several years back. Ghislaine's father had Mossad connections. The head of the Border Patrol union openly admitted that CBP is openly and knowingly facilitating child sex trafficking Operation Mockingbird. DHS engaging in mafia style "suggestions" to Social media giants to censor dissident thought. The Curtis Culwell Center attack. These are just subjects that have been spoken about publicly. Some of the things I mentioned, can often be found in literal school history books. Some of these scandals happened over the period of *DECADES* before finally being exposed. In fact, in the case of the Tuskeegee experiments and radiological experiments... there even were internal memos where some staff openly questioned the ethics of what they were doing! But yet, we still never heard about it until decades later... this really pokes holes in your theory that these things can't happen because "Someone would talk". Then there is the possibility that our government has probably gotten progressively better at figuring out what kind of people they can trust to do their dirty work, people they can destroy or easily discredit, or people who have shown a tendency of "Banality towards evil" .. if they go whistleblower. Or perhaps people who they themselves... were complicit and thus exposing the government's crimes would condemn themselves as well. Didn't Anne Frank, at one point in her diary, mention an uncle who warned their family about death camps, and he was dismissed as being "crazy" by all of her family? Remember not just the issue of the banality of evil, but also normalcy bias and how people.... even when faced with harsh oppression.... simply can't accept whats actually going on. It makes it far far easier for awful things to happen right under our noses, and be ignored. Our leaders claim that we are so much better than Russia, that we don't spy on American citizens, that we dont censor dissident thought... but we do. If our leaders and our government cherished our constitutional rights... why do they work so damn hard to look for every possible loophole to get around them? Why does Joe Biden talk so much about how we need more hate speech laws? FFS, even Republicans are demanding more hate speech laws... and wanting to basically criminalize any criticism of Israel. It is *OBVIOUS* that our leaders are every bit as power hungry, every bit as evil, as the Putins of the world. Their lust for power is only limited by real world consequences... and a relative difference in starting points of tyranny. Putin can do anything he wants with impunity... whereas our leaders are more likely to face some backlash and some serious consequences if they push too hard. The Russian government benefits from the fact that pretty much their entire history has been ruled by despots... with people not used to being free and basically having been battered into submission. They benefit from already having long standing institutions that strengthen their hold on power. But believe me, if they had the same power as Putin... they'd abuse their power in much the same way. Their actions show that they're willing to abuse what little power they already. |
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Quoted: yes and the maricopa county gope were in on it because she threatened to expose their complicity in the 2020 election fraud View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Aside from her claims on the recorder do you believe that Lake was the victim of election fraud? yes and the maricopa county gope were in on it because she threatened to expose their complicity in the 2020 election fraud Attached File |
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Quoted: If you have the evidence, you need to send it to her ASAP. I don't think that an affidavit claiming "I believe there was fraud" will suffice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Aside from her claims on the recorder do you believe that Lake was the victim of election fraud? If you have the evidence, you need to send it to her ASAP. I don't think that an affidavit claiming "I believe there was fraud" will suffice. 2,000 Mules |
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There have been many signed affidavits from people who worked at polling stations all over the country that they personally
witnessed voting fraud during 2020. Not to mention 2000 mules and people like Crowder and crew actually going to addresses of voters where the address didn't exist or the person --who voted--moved away long ago. AR15.com is filled with trolls who spout DU talking points against Trump to try and discourage people from voting for him. Every pro-Trump news is met with thread slides and purse swinging. "Show me the proof"--are you kidding me? "My eyes aren't blind but i can't see"--snowblind by Ozzie. "Say a little truth with many lies"--Dio. Mods need to come out that this is a pro 2A site and the only alternative for 2024 is DJT. The one just above who said he( or whatever you are) are pro 2A prove it.You are doing everything in your power for DJT to be defeated.Going to vote R down the line-- sure buddy. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Aside from her claims on the recorder do you believe that Lake was the victim of election fraud? If you have the evidence, you need to send it to her ASAP. I don't think that an affidavit claiming "I believe there was fraud" will suffice. 2,000 Mules Dinesh D'Souza is a liar and a grifter so I'm 0% surprised to see you reference him. You guys will literally believe anything, so long as it's what you want to hear. Holy shit, have some self respect, or a cogent thought at least. God damn. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: First you convince yourself that something happened Then you say that the thing happened because of a conspiracy to make it happen. Then, when you can't find any evidence of the thing, you say that proves the existence of the conspiracy. Because if there wasn't a conspiracy, you could find the evidence They've been primed to believe in grand conspiracies for decades now. That, and the fact that in the post 9/11 world the government has greatly expanded it's monitoring processes, which gives credence to many conspiracy thoeries. Yeah... no reason to believe our government engages in false flag terror attacks/provoking and encouraging terrorist attacks. Yeah I'm sure the court findings from the Curtis Culwell Center terrorist attacks, was all just "Muh Russian Propaganda". People like you will believe any allegation against Russia, if it makes Russia look bad. But if there was a literal mountain of evidence of wrongdoing by our own government, you just handwave it and go "LOL OK conspiratard". Thank you for illustrating my point. Apparently that court must have been a fake court, run by Alex Jones or some bullshit. |
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Quoted: Yep... totally dismiss whats been admitted in the court case. Apparently that court must have been a fake court, run by Alex Jones or some bullshit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: First you convince yourself that something happened Then you say that the thing happened because of a conspiracy to make it happen. Then, when you can't find any evidence of the thing, you say that proves the existence of the conspiracy. Because if there wasn't a conspiracy, you could find the evidence They've been primed to believe in grand conspiracies for decades now. That, and the fact that in the post 9/11 world the government has greatly expanded it's monitoring processes, which gives credence to many conspiracy thoeries. Yeah... no reason to believe our government engages in false flag terror attacks/provoking and encouraging terrorist attacks. Yeah I'm sure the court findings from the Curtis Culwell Center terrorist attacks, was all just "Muh Russian Propaganda". People like you will believe any allegation against Russia, if it makes Russia look bad. But if there was a literal mountain of evidence of wrongdoing by our own government, you just handwave it and go "LOL OK conspiratard". Thank you for illustrating my point. Apparently that court must have been a fake court, run by Alex Jones or some bullshit. |
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Quoted: Dinesh D'Souza is a liar and a grifter so I'm 0% surprised to see you reference him. You guys will literally believe anything, so long as it's what you want to hear. Holy shit, have some self respect, or a cogent thought at least. God damn. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Aside from her claims on the recorder do you believe that Lake was the victim of election fraud? If you have the evidence, you need to send it to her ASAP. I don't think that an affidavit claiming "I believe there was fraud" will suffice. 2,000 Mules Dinesh D'Souza is a liar and a grifter so I'm 0% surprised to see you reference him. You guys will literally believe anything, so long as it's what you want to hear. Holy shit, have some self respect, or a cogent thought at least. God damn. why don't you bring up the fact that he's a convicted felon as well? |
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Quoted: Trump blew what should have been a easy win in 2020, and I believe Trump can be such a colossal ass he can do it all over again in 2024. Bigger_Hammer View Quote Don't forget he's going to lose in 2028 as well. (Except he looked real rough in his bible commercial, squinty eyes and black pupils like Biden...so maybe he won't run in 2028). |
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Quoted: Getting into court to get discovery is what you need to start getting at that. The courts refused to allow it to happen. "But there's no proof" is so very handy when your fellow thinkers have made sure you aren't allowed to legally see if there is any. ETA: Hey, officer, I saw this guy running out of the store with a backpack full of thousand dollar gucci bags and sneakers falling out of it, I think he was shoplifting, can you get the ball rolling so we can get access to the video footage from the store? No, no you can't, you aren't allowed to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If it's so easy to find, why hasn't there been any verifiable proof? Easy as in searching for " Heartland Institute". A fraud threshold of 6% of the 47 million vote by mail ballots cast by the dems would change results . Why did Mark Elias get 58% of dems to vote by mail ? I agree 100% that Mark Elias did what he did to enable a system to would be easy to cheat. Unfortunately, that's not proof. Getting into court to get discovery is what you need to start getting at that. The courts refused to allow it to happen. "But there's no proof" is so very handy when your fellow thinkers have made sure you aren't allowed to legally see if there is any. ETA: Hey, officer, I saw this guy running out of the store with a backpack full of thousand dollar gucci bags and sneakers falling out of it, I think he was shoplifting, can you get the ball rolling so we can get access to the video footage from the store? No, no you can't, you aren't allowed to. Bad analogy. Better analogy: A Leftist legislature that wants there to be redistribution of wealth, passes a law making it illegal to lock your doors at night. The law passes and people sue. But no one had been robbed, so no standing. Then everyone in town is robbed one night. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Aside from her claims on the recorder do you believe that Lake was the victim of election fraud? If you have the evidence, you need to send it to her ASAP. I don't think that an affidavit claiming "I believe there was fraud" will suffice. 2,000 Mules |
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Quoted: Is your contention that Rudy Gulianni did not sign and submit an affidavit admitting that he lied about voter fraud in Georgia, that Sidney Powell's attorney did not argue in court that no reasonable person would have ever believed her claims, that Fox news did not settle for hundreds of millions of dollars over their bullshit about the domininion machines...? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In what court? Is your contention that Rudy Gulianni did not sign and submit an affidavit admitting that he lied about voter fraud in Georgia, that Sidney Powell's attorney did not argue in court that no reasonable person would have ever believed her claims, that Fox news did not settle for hundreds of millions of dollars over their bullshit about the domininion machines...? You also believe them when they say they were wrong, but not when they made other claims? |
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Quoted: I will boot avowed communists on sight. Can you point me to the posts that identify them as such? View Quote I fucking hate commies, my family lost everything they had owned since the 1300s due to commies. But we all know that anyone who does not fall in line behind Trump is who they are speaking of. And for the record, I do not think most trump voters are like that, just a few misguided zealots. |
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Quoted: Expect to hear ... Crickets ... Like "Stolen Election Claims" - Loud noises made, but when it is time to back up wild claims with any "Facts" or "Evidence" then, "The Whole System is Rigged Against Us because we have to have "Facts" & "Evidence".... Is Poster claiming that Donald Trump knowingly hired porn starlet Stormy Daniels to gurgle his balls - illegally using campaign money to try to hush it, and that she is in fact a "communist"? https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/how-stormy-daniels-can-bring-down-president-trump-2018-read-9fdbe84f-3fec-4e58-88a7-2b838ae14f34.jpg?w=1024 That would seem a very unwise security breach, indicating the Person is irresponsible & unfit for important office - sort of like storing boxes of highly sensitive & classified intelligence documents in the bathroom of a public club ... Bigger_Hammer View Quote The saddest part of all that is she's not even a hot porn star, she's one of those women you would see at a strip club on the nasty side of town. Where all the old used-up strippers go when they are past their prime. The last POTUS to have any taste in good-looking women was JFK, at least he was screwing around with Marlyn Monroe. |
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Quoted: I will boot avowed communists on sight. Can you point me to the posts that identify them as such? Quoted: I fucking hate commies, my family lost everything they had owned since the 1300s due to commies. But we all know that anyone who does not fall in line behind Trump is who they are speaking of. And for the record, I do not think most trump voters are like that, just a few misguided zealots. View Quote The Trump Worshipers debase the English language. When "everybody who doesn't love & worship a shitty person / politician like Donald Trump is a 'Commie' ", That is when "Commie" as a word loses all useful meaning. Just as when others say all "Conservatives are Nazis" Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, she's essentially admitting she lied and had no evidence to back her accusations of ballot stuffing... Sounds like Rudy. |
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Quoted: Truth be told. A "Shitty Person" is a "Shitty Person". As a Person, Trump is one of THE Shittiest people on the planet. Cheated on his wifes (all three) & destroyed marriages made in vows before God. Decades of Shady business practices including multiple bankruptcies' leaving others to pay the cost for his mistakes. Paid a porn starlet for sex, and then paid her again to keep quiet about it. Trump is just an absolute Shit person - no matter what the "Q" crewe think of him in their worship of him as "America's Savior". Trump is a If a Republican President is in office, a Democrat can't name new justices to the SCOTUS. I will still vote straight ticket "Republican" for the PARTY and the NATION in 2024, but I'm certainly not voting FOR "Donald Trump" - Total Bag of Shit that he is. Make no mistake, Joe Biden. & The Democrats are total & Complete Crap. They flat out suck! But if actual Conservative Republicans will embrace a flip flopping "Populist" with no moral values like Trump instead of real actual.committed Conservatives then we are completely screwed both on the next election and for us down the line in future elections. The Folks that Still Worship Donald Trump as being the Savior of the Nation and God's own Appointed come to Save Us All is laughable with such a terrible candidate whom the folks in the Middle (who decide elections) - just love to loath. Trump blew what should have been a easy win in 2020, and I believe Trump can be such a colossal ass he can do it all over again in 2024. Bigger_Hammer View Quote Insert clapping The Rock gif! |
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Quoted: The saddest part of all that is she's not even a hot porn star, she's one of those women you would see at a strip club on the nasty side of town. Where all the old used-up strippers go when they are past their prime. The last POTUS to have any taste in good-looking women was JFK, at least he was screwing around with Marlyn Monroe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Expect to hear ... Crickets ... Like "Stolen Election Claims" - Loud noises made, but when it is time to back up wild claims with any "Facts" or "Evidence" then, "The Whole System is Rigged Against Us because we have to have "Facts" & "Evidence".... Is Poster claiming that Donald Trump knowingly hired porn starlet Stormy Daniels to gurgle his balls - illegally using campaign money to try to hush it, and that she is in fact a "communist"? https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/how-stormy-daniels-can-bring-down-president-trump-2018-read-9fdbe84f-3fec-4e58-88a7-2b838ae14f34.jpg?w=1024 That would seem a very unwise security breach, indicating the Person is irresponsible & unfit for important office - sort of like storing boxes of highly sensitive & classified intelligence documents in the bathroom of a public club ... Bigger_Hammer The saddest part of all that is she's not even a hot porn star, she's one of those women you would see at a strip club on the nasty side of town. Where all the old used-up strippers go when they are past their prime. The last POTUS to have any taste in good-looking women was JFK, at least he was screwing around with Marlyn Monroe. LOL! With Trump Money & his "influence" in various beauty pageants you'd have expected him to have salted away a few super hot side pieces instead of a nasty used up "porn starlett" who's had more "pricks" than 20 acres of cactus??. Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: I fucking hate commies, my family lost everything they had owned since the 1300s due to commies. But we all know that anyone who does not fall in line behind Trump is who they are speaking of. And for the record, I do not think most trump voters are like that, just a few misguided zealots. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I will boot avowed communists on sight. Can you point me to the posts that identify them as such? I fucking hate commies, my family lost everything they had owned since the 1300s due to commies. But we all know that anyone who does not fall in line behind Trump is who they are speaking of. And for the record, I do not think most trump voters are like that, just a few misguided zealots. My wife's father grew up near the border of China in what is now North Korea. One day the commies lined up his family and executed them while he hid with his sister. His sister starved to death, but my father-in-law fled south and was taken in by an American GI who found him housing and paid for all of his school. All the retards claiming commies are everywhere on this site are a special type of stupid, and belittle the suffering actual commies inflicted upon people. |
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Quoted: My wife's father grew up near the border of China in what is now North Korea. One day the commies lined up his family and executed them while he hid with his sister. His sister starved to death, but my father-in-law fled south and was taken in by an American GI who found him housing and paid for all of his school. All the retards claiming commies are everywhere on this site are a special type of stupid, and belittle the suffering actual commies inflicted upon people. View Quote They truly are no better than the ones on the other side who think if you chop off your dick that makes you a woman. Or like another poster stated above when the left says all conservatives are Nazis. It's the same illogical thinking. |
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Quoted: With a corrupt DOJ and FBI we will never see the evidence. It's out there, just look at how the election went down and how the counts went. Blocked windows and kicked out the poll watchers. Yea totally legit.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They could have just asked Donald for the evidence/proof https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/463094/IMG_5395_jpeg-3171022.JPG With a corrupt DOJ and FBI we will never see the evidence. It's out there, just look at how the election went down and how the counts went. Blocked windows and kicked out the poll watchers. Yea totally legit.. why did they stop? Were they just tired? Who told them to? |
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Quoted: They truly are no better than the ones on the other side who think if you chop off your dick that makes you a woman. Or like another poster stated above when the left says all conservatives are Nazis. It's the same illogical thinking. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My wife's father grew up near the border of China in what is now North Korea. One day the commies lined up his family and executed them while he hid with his sister. His sister starved to death, but my father-in-law fled south and was taken in by an American GI who found him housing and paid for all of his school. All the retards claiming commies are everywhere on this site are a special type of stupid, and belittle the suffering actual commies inflicted upon people. They truly are no better than the ones on the other side who think if you chop off your dick that makes you a woman. Or like another poster stated above when the left says all conservatives are Nazis. It's the same illogical thinking. Ayup |
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Quoted: The question stands. You implied that SSI proponents are communists. I question that assertation. View Quote Did this suddenly become the old hens sitting on the porch gossping about everyone and backstabbing where it doesn't matter what a person said or did? I generally tend to try and avoid implying anything. I usually either say it or I say nothing, I've had mods tell me to change thread titles because I've said stuff too bluntly. In other words, that's just not my habit. The "screw you, pay me, it's right when the government steals from you to give to me, and it's right because it was wrong for the government to do it to me, I want mine" are operating on envy and hate of others and a serious entitlement complex. Communists operate on the same basic motivations and with the same mental structures. I pretty clearly said that's what I was talking about - the fact that you're having to go down the route of "well you implied..." It's something else to see threads that complain about how workplaces full of females play word games and backstab, and than we turn around do exactly that. Maybe don't do that? |
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Quoted: In my 50 years of voting I've never seen a group disparage the presumptive nominee of their party like here on Arfcom. To what end? Is it sour grapes? I don't get it. View Quote In your 50 years of voting, have you seen a republican run for re-election after increasing the debt 8.4 trillion USD in a single 4 year term? In your 50 years of voting, have you ever seen anyone flip flop harder than those who called out Obama's wreckless spending during his term, whom then vehemently defend and support Trump running for re-election after he spent at a rate TWICE that of Obama? And then these same people call anyone who doesn't support Trump a communist. |
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Quoted: Did the counting stop, or did the reporting slow down? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: That's some circular logic right, as has already been pointed out:
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: See? Exactly like I said it would be. "But it's not what I arbitrarily call proof, so my mental house of cards is safe!" And if you go down the rabbit hole, the next bit will be you saying how the courts didn't let any of the cases happen. Than I'll tell you to go look and see why. and you'll refuse. And anything that doesn't fit (with what you say you want) that was not allowed to happen will never qualify in that script processor between your ears as "proof." Anything, anything at all besides digging in and seeing what happened. I can post you the links to the testimony. You'll bitch and whine that you don't have the time. edits in red. That's some circular logic right, as has already been pointed out:
Circular? Ok, where was I using the thing I was trying to prove as proof that it is true? Use the quote button, use my own words, exactly what they mean, and hit me in the face with them. ------------------------------------- "Called out that proof doesn't exist" Nice of you to repetitively ignore where I said the courts (wrongfully ) refused to allow people to (legally) get discovery. In simple explicit terms so you can't avoid it: we can't get the proof of that type because bad actors refused to allow it to be gotten. What we DO have is more than enough markers that scream "THIS NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED" and I even listed a tiny few of them in the thread. I believe you know the courts didn't allow the cases to happen, meaning you probably know that nobody could cite evidence that normally only shows up in court cases. You're asking for something you KNOW cannot be reasonably given and you know it's safe for you to do it. You *might* be unaware of the abusive bullcrap the courts pulled to refuse the cases, but than, I've been telling everyone that's reading my posts in this thread over and over again that it happened that way. AFAIK nobody has even told me I'm wrong about that, yall just aren't touching it. When I do post all the markers that indicate fraud and the like may have happened and we'd better bloody well look at it, people crap their diapers and whine and say it's too hard of an ask, too much to read, too much to watch, too much to listen to. Than we go off to other threads and whinge about how the election system is busted. |
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Quoted: Dinesh D'Souza is a liar and a grifter so I'm 0% surprised to see you reference him. You guys will literally believe anything, so long as it's what you want to hear. Holy shit, have some self respect, or a cogent thought at least. God damn. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Aside from her claims on the recorder do you believe that Lake was the victim of election fraud? If you have the evidence, you need to send it to her ASAP. I don't think that an affidavit claiming "I believe there was fraud" will suffice. 2,000 Mules Dinesh D'Souza is a liar and a grifter so I'm 0% surprised to see you reference him. You guys will literally believe anything, so long as it's what you want to hear. Holy shit, have some self respect, or a cogent thought at least. God damn. Notice what you didn't do: You didn't even begin to say how anything in that content is false. Instead, you pulled the leftoid npc trick: UNAPPROVED SOURCE, MUST BASH. |
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Quoted: Dinesh D'Souza is a liar and a grifter so I'm 0% surprised to see you reference him. You guys will literally believe anything, so long as it's what you want to hear. Holy shit, have some self respect, or a cogent thought at least. God damn. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Aside from her claims on the recorder do you believe that Lake was the victim of election fraud? If you have the evidence, you need to send it to her ASAP. I don't think that an affidavit claiming "I believe there was fraud" will suffice. 2,000 Mules Dinesh D'Souza is a liar and a grifter so I'm 0% surprised to see you reference him. You guys will literally believe anything, so long as it's what you want to hear. Holy shit, have some self respect, or a cogent thought at least. God damn. I don't actually know, but I have a copy of 2000 mules and have meant to watch it. Before I got to doing so, basically this is what I've heard, that it's pretty much Ancient Alien's level quality and completely debunked. So I kind of lost interest and haven't bothered. I guess you would agree then, that it's not credible? As time as gone on, and essentially every single Election Fraud accuser has admitted that they made it up and lied, and here's a check - I've pretty much completely lost interest. I still have it, but it's going to take a compelling case to bother watching it for me now. This thread isn't helping. |
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Quoted: Well it's a darned good thing that you only have to read about 3-4 paragraphs or so of the text to get an idea about it. The easiest way to manipulate suckers in america: Say exactly what you mean... but use more than 2 paragraphs and use multisyllabic words. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Because she made claims and has been unable to get access to evidence. She might also be running out of money to fight. She's probably burned millions trying to fight this and suspect she's running our of money So she filed for discovery and they refused to provide it, defying the courts order or did it just not exist? In order to prove what she alleges, you would have to trace every ballot back to a valid voter. With the way the mail in process works, it's impossible to do that. The "voter" "certifies" their ballot by signing the envelope. The very first thing that they do when they receive the ballots for counting, is to open up the envelope, and separate the envelope from the ballot. This sanitizes the ballot and makes it impossible to confirm it's validity! Once they have been separated, the ballot is assumed to be valid and there is no way to even determine who cast that ballot. It's a perfect setup for cheating at a grand scale if you do not have robust accountability at the counting places. Which explains the ones where Republicans were thrown out. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/463094/IMG_5395_jpeg-3170865.JPG https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1742670648433090764.html Warning. WALL of text. Click To View Spoiler KanekoaTheGreat Profile picture KanekoaTheGreat @KanekoaTheGreat Jan 3 • 6 tweets • 31 min read • Read on X Scrolly ??JUST IN - President Trump Releases Summary of Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election in the Swing States Introduction: It has often been repeated there is “no evidence” of fraud in the 2020 Election. In actuality, there is no evidence Joe Biden won. Ongoing investigations in the Swing States reveal hundreds of thousands of votes were altered and/or not lawfully cast in the Presidential Election. Joe Biden needed them. On Election Night Nov. 3, 2020, President Donald J. Trump was sailing to reelection with landslide leads in numerous battlegrounds. In Georgia, President Trump was up by 12 points, and over 335,000 votes, with 56 percent of the vote in at 10:17 p.m. In Wisconsin, President Trump was leading by 121,380 votes and 5 points at 12:12 a.m., which Fox News anchor Bret Baier noted was “not a small margin.” In Pennsylvania, President Trump was leading by 659,145 votes at 12:38 a.m., a full 15 points. In Michigan, President Trump was leading by 293,052 votes and 10 points. The election was over. However, precincts in Atlanta, Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee kept counting until the results reached the desired outcome, which was the opposite of the will of the voters. Georgia went from having a total of 4.7 million votes, already a record for the state, according to Brad Raffensperger’s count on Nov. 4, to certifying almost 5 million. This was 300,000 more votes than what the top elections official claimed were cast in the Election. Getting to this result in Georgia, and other states, created an irredeemably compromised Election, filled with violations of the Constitution, unlawful ballots, widespread broken chain of custody, electronic manipulation, and missing and corrupted election files that made it uncertifiable — and impossible to recreate the results. President Trump was right to voice his objections to what had unfolded before the country’s eyes. Republican poll watchers were denied access to the counting in multiple jurisdictions and ballots were counted in secret in the middle of the night without media or observers present. Countless irregularities emerged, including reports of ineligible voters, voting machine anomalies, “water main breaks,” improbable percentages of ballots for Biden, and more. Since, investigations across the country have uncovered an avalanche of irregularities, unlawful activity, manipulation of election records, destruction of evidence, and fraud. The findings, which are outcome determinative, are detailed in the summaries of the Swing States. GEORGIA?? • Georgia was called by 11,779 votes. • Fulton County, Georgia, the most populous county in the state, has no digital record of all in person votes cast in its original results. • Not a single ballot purportedly cast during early in-person voting was witnessed to and signed off by poll managers, as required by Georgia election rules. Seals were broken and memory cards removed from tabulators for the results of these 315,000 votes, which were printed out on different machines than the ones that tabulated them. This prevented the reconciliation of how many votes were cast on each machine. • The ballot images of these votes, along with the rest of in-person ballots cast on Election Day, were destroyed. • The vote in Georgia was counted three times: the original machine count, a statewide hand recount, and a second machine count. Each time the state, and Fulton County, reported three different results. • Fulton County did not count the same ballots during the original count and the machine recount. There are 19,541 distinct ballots that appear in one machine count but not the other. • Thousands of fraudulent “presidential only” ballots were injected into the second machine count, with huge margins favoring Joe Biden. Ballots that are blank except for the presidential contest were counted in batches together, with the pattern appearing in at least eight counties, including Fulton. This means Georgia did not have the votes to justify its original Election “results.” • The second machine count was over 17,000 votes “short.” Fulton County was instructed to “reconcile” the results by the Secretary of State, and recertified its results without divulging the extent of the vote deficiency to members of the Fulton County Board of Registrations and Elections. • “Thousands of bogus votes” were ultimately added into the Election results via the second machine count. This includes 20,977 unsubstantiated votes of unknown origin. The results were missing 17,852 ballot images, and included 3,125 duplicate ballot images that were counted twice. • At least 2,871 ballots were counted two or three times in the second machine count, totaling 6,118 questionable votes. • Eighty-eight percent of Fulton County’s precincts reported a different total number of votes between the first and second machine count. • The only electronic votes that survived from the first count were the mail-in ballots, since they were tabulated on the high speed scanner their ballot images were automatically uploaded to the election server. • Ninety percent of these approximately 148,000 absentee ballots cast in Fulton County cannot be authenticated. Ballot images for 132,284 mail-in votes have no .SHA file, which is created automatically when a ballot is scanned and used to authenticate the digital image of the vote, lacking evidence they were scanned and tabulated properly, or even cast by a real voter. • 104,994 ballot image files of these mail-in ballots from the original count contained identical modified time stamps, suggesting electronic manipulation. • Fulton County does not know “how many voters cast votes” and its “lack of basic accounting controls make it impossible to determine who really won” in 2020, according to Philip Stark, a University of California, Berkeley professor who invented risk-limiting audits. Stark noted, “The electronic records of the election are not intact.” • 376,863 ballot images are missing from the first machine count, which includes all in-person votes in Fulton County. • None of the 315,000 votes cast during early voting in Fulton County were witnessed to and signed by the poll manager and two poll workers, as required by state election rules. The closing tapes for these votes are all unsigned, showed more tabulated votes than the tabulators had recorded as scanning in their protective counters, and recorded improbably low percentages for President Trump. For example, President Trump received only 0.9 percent, 2.4 percent, 3.7 percent from some of the tabulators, as if he was a third party candidate, or in a third world country. The anomalies indicate ballots were not scanned on the tabulators that printed the closing tapes, making the closing tapes fraudulent. • Tabulators used in Fulton County during early voting had their seals broken, and memory cards were reprogrammed and inserted into different scanners to count absentee ballots, in violation of election rules. This made it impossible to reconcile the true number of votes tabulated on the machines from the start of the Election to the end of counting. • 235,000 absentee ballots were requested and accepted too early, prior to the lawful date 180 days before the 2020 Election, which was May 6, 2020. These votes should have never been counted in the 2020 Election. • 4,081 false votes for Joe Biden were included in the hand count audit results for Fulton County. The false votes were the result of 36 accounting errors, which were confirmed by Governor Brian Kemp’s office and investigators working for Secretary Brad Raffensperger, yet they have never been removed from the official hand count results. These errors alone would reduce the margin to 7,698 votes. • The hand count audit included 3,935 unaccounted for votes due to 11 missing batch sheets in Fulton County. Differences from the original count to the hand audit total at least 15,690 votes, which is more than the entire election margin alone. This includes the 4,081 false Biden votes, plus “missing” votes discovered in Gwinett (1,642), Fayette (2,755), Floyd (2,700), Douglas (293), and Walton (284) counties that were likely due to machine counting errors. • Thousands of “pristine,” unfolded absentee ballots were counted during the hand count audit in Fulton County, according to at least six witnesses, which is the subject of ongoing litigation. These absentee ballots had no folds, and went 98 percent to Joe Biden, had “been added in a fraudulent manner,” witnesses said. • Fulton County certified 59,143 in-person votes on Election Day, despite the fact that only 14,152 people had voted as of 5 p.m. on Nov. 3, 2020. Evidence suggests the in-person vote total on Election Day was inflated by approximately 37,000 votes, as records show no rush to the polls during the final two hours of voting, and a screenshot of the in-person Election Day results shared by a government contractor showed only 21,843 people voted at the polls in Fulton County on Nov. 3. • Fulton County ordered over 1 million absentee ballots days before the 2020 Election, without any envelopes and the time necessary to mail. There were only 808,680 active voters in Fulton County as of Nov. 1, 2020, meaning the county had more blank mail-in ballots than the number of registered voters, and ordered them after the vast majority of mail-in ballot requests had already been sent to voters by Runbeck Election Services. • An estimated 30,000 to 92,670 illicit votes were trafficked in Georgia, as part of a massive ballot trafficking operation discovered by True the Vote. The group identified 242 traffickers in Georgia who engaged in 5,662 ballot drops into drop boxes, making an average of runs per trafficker. Over 40 percent of the illicit drops that were captured on camera were recorded between the non-voting hours of midnight and 5 a.m. • There were over 364,000 ineligible voter registrations on the rolls during the 2020 Election and likely 67,284 votes were cast from voters with invalid residency. • Massive manipulation of the Georgia voter rolls surrounding the 2020 Election has been uncovered. This includes 1,500 Voter IDs that received credit for voting in 2020, but were not on any voter rolls from 2020, some appearing for the first time on the voter rolls on Nov. 4, 2021, a year after the Election. Other findings include manipulation of inactive voters to cast ballots, “gifting” Nov. 3 votes up to 2 years after the Election, and casting votes on ballots previously rejected, cancelled, or not even turned in. • In 2020, there were absentee ballots issued to “Bangkok Thailand, Ga.,” “Denver, Ga.,” “Detroit, Ga.,” “Los Angeles, Ga.,” and other fraudulent addresses that do not exist. Ballots were fraudulently cast in 2020 from addresses listed as “Bronx, Ga.,” “Hilton Head, Ga.,” “Louisville, Ga.,” “San Diego, Ga.,” “New Orleans, Ga.,” “French Creek, Ga.,” “Virginia Beach, Ga.,” “Vicksburg, Ga.,” “Baltimore, Ga.,” “New York, Ga.,” and “Sarasota, Ga.,” all with zip codes out of state. • 43,907 drop box ballots violated chain of custody requirements in DeKalb County. • 59,000 of the 79,460 drop box ballots in Fulton County were not immediately transported to the election registrar, in violation of State Election Board rules. • An estimated 355,000 ballot transfer forms for drop box ballots are missing statewide. • Over 100,000 tally sheets for Fulton County were missing from the hand count audit, and remained missing for months after the Election. • In early January 2021, Ruby Freeman asked for an attorney because she wanted to “go live on every platform” to divulge information about how “the USB ports” were used in the 2020 Election. The expert cyber report by Professor J. Alex Halderman explained how external USB ports with election-changing malware can be inserted into Dominion machines by anyone with access, including election workers. • The presence of a “QR code mismatch” error within the Dominion tabulators that systematically undercounts votes was found in 65 out of 67 Georgia counties where records were available. The error was present in system log files for tabulators used in elections in 2020, 2021, and 2022. • The election results in Georgia in 2020 are not only unreliable, but were electronically altered, and are unsupported by the state’s own election records. The appearance of tens of thousands of unconfirmed ballots in subsequent hand and machine counts suggest reconciliation happened after the Election, meaning after it was clear what margins were needed to win. • Fulton County election officials admitted in early 2021 they do not engage in any reconciliation until weeks after Election Day. This means the number of voters showing up at the polls during each day of voting is not checked with the number of ballots tabulated each day, a basic process to ensure the number of ballots and voters match, and cannot be manipulated later. • “We can’t start reconciling that until usually a couple days before certification,” said then-Fulton County Elections Director Richard Barron, during a January 2021 Board meeting. “Because we have to get that report from KnowInk. I think KnowInk sends those to the state or KnowInk sends those directly to us. But those aren’t compiled then, on Election night. So we don’t have any way to balance those then. That’s like the post-election process that we do.”Image Image Image Image JUST IN - President Trump Releases Summary of Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election in the Swing States WISCONSIN?? • Wisconsin was called by 20,682 votes. • The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled drop boxes are illegal under Wisconsin law, in a 4-3 decision issued in July 2022. • Wisconsin Election Commissioner Meagan Wolfe unilaterally declared ballot drop boxes could be used to vote in 2020 elections, even though “WEC’s commissioners never voted to adopt this memo.” • Ahead of the November 2020 Election, Wolfe encouraged clerks to use “creative solutions” to deploy drop boxes, that she said could be “unstaffed.” There were 528 drop boxes used in the General Election, and a total of 1,969,274 absentee votes cast, including 1,346,731 votes cast by mail, and 653,236 in-person. • In a concurring opinion to the ruling finding drop boxes to be unlawful, Justice Rebecca Bradley writes, “If the right to vote is to have any meaning at all, elections must be conducted according to law. Throughout history, tyrants have claimed electoral victory via elections conducted in violation of governing law… in Wisconsin elected officials “deriv[e] their just powers from the consent of the governed.” • “The right to vote presupposes the rule of law governs elections. If elections are conducted outside of the law, the people have not conferred their consent on the government. Such elections are unlawful and their results are illegitimate.” • Justice Bradley concluded “thousands of votes have been cast via this unlawful method,” using drop boxes, “thereby directly harming the Wisconsin voters.” • “The illegality of these drop boxes weakens the people’s faith that the election produced an outcome reflective of their will,” Justice Bradley writes. “The Wisconsin voters, and all lawful voters, are injured when the institution charged with administering Wisconsin elections does not follow the law, leaving the results in question…Electoral outcomes obtained by unlawful procedures corrupt the institution of voting, degrading the very foundation of free government. Unlawful votes do not dilute lawful votes so much as they pollute them, which in turn pollutes the integrity of the results.” • In the city of Milwaukee, nearly half of all its votes were cast by mail, totaling 217,424 ballots. The city deployed 15 drop boxes, with election officials claiming the drop boxes would be “under 24-hour surveillance.” However, after the election, not a single municipality in the county produced video surveillance of drop boxes in response to open records requests. Various responses included, “No records exist for your request,” “No video from requested time frame,” “No such records exist,” and “No security camera.” • The election integrity group True the Vote identified 107 ballot traffickers in Milwaukee County between Oct. 20 and Nov. 3, 2020, who each made 20 or more visits to drop boxes. Each trafficker made an average 26 visits, and as many as 15 in one day, and made multiple visits to non-governmental organizations. • The 107 traffickers made a total of 2,824 trips to drop boxes during the 2020 Election, with a majority of visits occurring after 8:00 p.m. • In 2020 there was a surge of “indefinitely confined” votes in Wisconsin, resulting in 220,404 votes cast from individuals who were exempted from showing voter ID. This surge of suspect votes was due to Democrat election clerks giving advice that was deemed illegal after the election, instructing voters to identify themselves as disabled during the COVID pandemic to avoid voter ID laws. • Indefinitely confined voters, who are supposed to be physically unable to go to the polls due to age, disability, or illness, increased by an astounding 393 percent in Dane County from 2016 to 2020; 492 percent in Racine County; 281 percent in Milwaukee County; and 287 percent in the state overall. • There were just 56,978 indefinitely confined votes in 2016, and roughly 70,000 43 in 2019. In 2020, however, there were 220,404 votes cast using indefinite confinement status. Over 77 percent of these individuals had never been listed as indefinitely confined before. The Wisconsin Legislative Audit Bureau identified 48,554 people who voted as indefinitely confined in November 2020 who had never provided photo identification or did not have photo identifications on file with clerks, which is more than twice the vote margin of 20,682. • Scott McDonell, the Democrat clerk of Dane County, which encompasses the area of Madison, told all residents they could identify themselves as indefinitely confined because of COVID, specifically citing it as a way to get around the Voter ID law. • McDonell previously blamed Wisconsin’s voter ID law for President Trump’s victory in 2016, claiming in a 2018 Twitter post that “thousands of voters [were] deterred from voting due to [the] ID law.” • In 2020, McDonell urged all voters to declare themselves indefinitely confined in order to obtain an absentee ballot and “skip the step of uploading an ID” in the April 2020 primary election. Once a voter is identified as indefinitely confined, they continue to receive absentee ballots automatically for subsequent elections. “I urge all voters who request a ballot and have trouble presenting a valid ID to indicate that they are indefinitely confined,” McDonell said in a Facebook post. • The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled in December 2020 that the pandemic “did not render all Wisconsin electors ‘indefinitely confined,’ thereby obviating the requirement of a valid photo identification to obtain an absentee ballot,” and the clerks’ “interpretation of Wisconsin election laws was erroneous.” • The Wisconsin Election Commission ordered nursing homes to violate the law by not allowing Special Voting Deputies (SVDs) inside their facilities, which led to election fraud where incapacitated elderly residents had votes cast in their name with the assistance of nursing home staff. • An investigation by the Racine County Sheriff found the Wisconsin Elections Commission “shattered” state election laws. Nursing homes saw an “unusual surge in voting activity,” and at least 8 cases of felony voter fraud were found in one nursing home, accounting for nearly 1 in 5 families of residents. • The Wisconsin Election Commission admitted it was “essentially telling the clerks to break the law” by ordering the sending of absentee ballots to nursing homes and barring Special Voting Deputies inside the facilities. • An interim report released by Special Counsel Michael J. Gableman raised “serious and legitimate questions that the certification of Wisconsin’s election results may have been undertaken in an unlawful and unconstitutional manner.” • Gableman claimed “Democracy in the Park” events in Madison involved numerous possible violations of the law, “calling into question the validity of over 17,000 absentee ballots.” • These outdoor events to collect mail-in ballots were the subject of numerous complaints, and it is “not clear that all of the workers at those events were properly deputized and trained, swore and filed the mandatory oath of office, or documents related to absentee ballots were properly handled.” • The Office of the Special Counsel also claimed evidence of “undue influence by well-funded private groups, who leveraged large grants to certain Wisconsin cities in order to co-opt our election apparatus to their benefit.” • The report confirms at least 17.5 percent of election clerks “were not properly trained,” and that “exploitation of elders” occurred in nursing homes. • In one example, Maryl Barrett, who was 104 years old and did not recognize her own children, had a ballot cast in her name in the 2020 Presidential Election. • The Office of Special Counsel’s second interim report found nursing homes in Milwaukee, Dane, and Racine counties with 100 percent turnout due to the Wisconsin Election Commission’s order. • The special counsel said it possessed evidence of nursing home facility staff and directors who “assisted residents in completing ballots; assisted residents in obtaining absentee ballots; pressured residents to vote; collected completed ballots from residents; forged signatures of residents; illegally returned residents’ ballots to the municipal clerks by mail, by placing the ballots in drop boxes, and/ or delivering them directly to the clerks; pressured and/or assisted incompetent persons to complete and cast ballots in the November 2020 election, up to and including persons who have had their right to vote take away by court order due to mental incompetence.” • The second interim report also detailed an $8.8 million “election bribery scheme” involving Mark Zuckerberg’s Center for Tech and Civic Life and the cities of Milwaukee, Madison, Racine, Kenosha, and Green Bay. “In the agreement, the Cities took CTCL’s money to facilitate in-person and absentee voting within their respective city.” • The “Wisconsin Safe Voting Plan” developed for CTCL facilitated grants to major Wisconsin cities to deploy drop boxes for mail-in ballots, including $50,000 to Green Bay, $40,000 to Kenosha, $50,000 to Madison, $58,500 to Milwaukee, and $18,000 to Racine. • Whitney May, the director of government services for CTCL, posted numerous anti-Trump posts on social media, including telling people “don’t vote for Trump” in 2016. • Internal emails from election officials in Green Bay revealed Michael SpitzerRubenstein, a former Democratic Party operative, served as a “de facto elections administrator and had access to Green Bay’s absentee ballots days before the election.” • The Office of the Special Counsel referenced this case, and has evidence that this grantee, which was funded by CTCL, was “directly involved in all aspects of management of election officials, was entrusted with the only sets of physical keys to the city’s central count location, managed the transportation of ballots, and instructed the counting of unlawful ballots that had arrived at the central count location beyond the lawful time window.”Image Image Image Image JUST IN - President Trump Releases Summary of Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election in the Swing States PENNSYLVANIA?? • Pennsylvania was called by 80,555 votes. • Months after the election, there were 121,240 more votes than voters, according to the Pennsylvania Department of State. By law, Pennsylvania cannot certify an election with this type of discrepancy. • Republican lawmakers, led by State Representative Frank Ryan, were tracking the vote discrepancy in real time in the Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors (SURE) system. Ryan, a certified public accountant, initially reported that there were 170,830 more votes than voters in the Presidential race, more than twice the margin in Pennsylvania. “These numbers just don’t add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania’s presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed, and in error,” the lawmakers said. • The Pennsylvania Department of State’s office called this “obvious misinformation,” while admitting the “only way to determine the number of voters who voted in November from the SURE system is through the vote histories,” which they said Philadelphia, Allegheny, and other counties had still not completed — an admission the election was certified without ensuring the number of voters and votes matched in the SURE system. The election was certified on Nov. 24, 2020, and the Department of State’s statement came on Dec. 29, 2020. • The SURE system was checked and downloaded weekly with updated voter histories from the general Election until all the counties uploaded their vote histories, which was not completed until February 2021. At this time there were still over 121,000 votes that did not have a corresponding voter in the SURE system. • The statement by the Department of State “that the voting would reconcile, once the counties completed their SURE uploads, was incorrect,” according to Verity Vote. “When the final county finished uploading their voter histories and closed the election in SURE, it was February 1, 2021, which was the same day that [Secretary of State Kathy] Boockvar announced her resignation. At the time that Philadelphia closed the election in SURE, the voter histories showed that the county accepted at least 7,944 ballots that could not be associated with a registered voter.” • Pennsylvania credited 71,893 people for voting who returned mail-in ballots after Election Day, and these individuals were included in the voter history files. This includes 50,285 received between Nov. 4 and Nov. 6; 11,570 received between Nov. 7 and Nov. 11; and 10,038 that were received on or after Nov. 12. Boockvar claimed only 10,000 ballots were received between the close of the polls on Election Day and Nov. 6. • While 71,893 people received credit for voting by mail, these votes purportedly did not count. Even while including these voters in the total number of who participated in the Election, Pennsylvania still came up 121,240 voters short. • According to the Department of State data, there were 7,035,746 ballots cast in the 2020 Presidential Election, including all write-in votes, over-votes, and under-votes. “After all counties closed the election in SURE, only 6,914,556 voters were credited with participation in the 2020 General Election. This reveals a voter deficit of 121,240.” • In Philadelphia, hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots were unlawfully counted in secret, in defiance of a court order, while Republican poll watchers were thrown out of buildings where voting took place. • U.S. Attorney Bill McSwain was told to stand down and not investigate election irregularities by Attorney General Bill Barr. McSwain said he was instructed to not discuss the allegations of voter fraud he received, and to pass any “serious” investigations along to then-State Attorney General Josh Shapiro, a Democrat who promised days before the election that President Trump “is going to lose.” • Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook poured over $25 million into the administration of the election in Pennsylvania in 2020. Over $10 million went to the Democrat-controlled jurisdiction of Philadelphia, which included $5.5 million on “ballot processing equipment” and $552,000 for drop boxes. • A lawsuit filed in Delaware County revealed video evidence of election officials discussing destroying election evidence from the November 2020 Election. “It’s a felony,” one official says after talking about the need to “get rid” of voting “pads and second scanners.” Sources involved in the litigation alleged the Delaware County officials violated numerous election laws and that the destruction of records was “done to ensure records eventually provided actually matched the election results that were reported in Nov. 2020.” • Delaware County received $2.2 million from Zuckerberg’s Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL), which it spent on “recruiting and training a sufficient number of poll workers; setting up drop box locations for voters to return ballots,” and other Get Out the Vote efforts. • The election integrity group True the Vote said Philadelphia was the worst offender it witnessed when investigating the widespread ballot trafficking scheme operating across multiple Swing States in 2020. They identified 1,155 ballot traffickers who each visited at least 10 drop boxes and five non-governmental organizations. Some ballot traffickers made hundreds of trips to drop boxes.Image Image Image JUST IN - President Trump Releases Summary of Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election in the Swing States ARIZONA?? • Arizona was called by a margin of 10,457 votes. • Maricopa County accepted 20,500 mail-in ballots after Election Day 2020, including 18,000 – more than the entire election margin – on Nov. 4 picked up from the U.S. Postal Service. By law, ballots must be received no later than 7 p.m. on Election Day, which was Nov. 3. • “The 20,000 ballots recorded as incoming from the USPS on and after November 4 were of sufficient quantity to change the result of the 2020 General Election in Arizona,” according to Verity Vote. • The findings were based on Maricopa County’s official Elections Department records, which were withheld from a public records request for nearly seven months. The records showed 18,000 mail-in ballots received on Nov. 4; 1,000 received on Nov. 5; and 1,500 received on Nov. 6. • The 18,000 mail-in ballots received on Nov. 4 and subsequently counted represented a significant spike in ballots received, higher than every single day total since Oct. 29, 2020. The receipt of mail-in ballots had steadily declined from 14,500 ballots on Oct. 29 to 10,500 on Oct. 30; 6,000 on Oct. 31; 1,500 on Nov. 1; 1,000 on Nov. 2; and 2,500 on Nov. 3. • In the 2020 General Election, 420,987 ballots failed signature verification standards, “thus the election was openly vulnerable to fraud,” according to an ongoing analysis conducted by We the People Arizona Alliance and presented to the state legislature. • The initial analysis of 380,976 ballots, using official state records and official signature verification training techniques, identified 181,378 ballots that should not have been counted, or nearly half of all reviewed. • This includes: 1,870 blank envelopes, some of which were approved on Nov. 5 and Nov. 8; 542 with a signature other than the voter; 2,104 scribbles; 128 duplicate voters processed; 48,117 unreasonably different control signatures; 1,875 where the signature did not match until after the election; 36,034 control signatures that do not match the voter; 4,433 unusable control signatures; 47,366 that failed Secretary of State standards; and 38,909 egregious signature mismatches, where not one point of a signature matched any on file. • In the case of the 1,875 votes, the ballot envelopes did not have a signature match on Election Day, but “matching” signatures were later put on file for the voter on either Jan. 28, 2021, Feb. 3, 2021, or Feb. 8, 2021. There were 783 signatures digitally inserted on Feb. 3, 2021 alone. • Since the findings were presented to the Arizona State Legislature, the number of egregious mismatches found has increased to 76,354, over seven times the election margin. This is an error rate of 9.30 percent of ballot envelopes reviewed. • Throughout the signature verification analysis, which remains ongoing, analysts have consistently found 20 percent do not meet the Secretary of State’s standards, and 9 percent are egregious violations. Extrapolated to all 1.9 million mail-in ballots in 2020, 176,700 ballots “should have been rejected for improper signature verification due to egregious signature mismatches.” • Maricopa County has no documented chain of custody for 740,000 ballots from the 2020 Election. • Out of the 923,000 early vote ballots accepted at vote centers or drop boxes, only 183,406 ballots are accounted for on ballot transport forms. More than 80 percent of the ballot transport forms have no ballot counts. • Without proper documentation of how many votes were cast at the time they were cast, it is impossible to verify the origin and true total of ballots in a given election. “Without this count, there is no way to determine if the transport staff retrieved one ballot or one thousand ballots,” according to Verity Vote. “Keeping a proper chain of custody is more than a best practice - it is essential to encouraging trust in our democracy,” according to the Election Assistance Commission. • Of the 1,895 early vote ballot transport forms, 48 did not have the required two witness signatures attesting to the ballot transfer, including some with no witness signatures at all. “As a result, the public is not assured that both parties witnessed the transfer of ballots,” as required. • Millions of files of 2020 General Election data and security logs were deleted from the Elections Management Server and purged on critical days, including the day before the Arizona audit of the 2020 Election began on Feb. 2, 2021. • The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors admitted they purged the system and moved election data after they received a subpoena, in testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives. • Two precincts in Pima County had over 100 percent turnout for mail-in ballots, and 40 precincts had over 97 percent returned. • The national mail-in ballot return rate was 71 percent, but in Pima County the mail-in ballot return rate was 15 percent higher, and 19 percent higher than all the counties combined in the entire state of Arizona. One precinct with 99.5 percent mail-in turnout had 9,812 ballots counted. Another precinct with 100.6 percent turnout had 2,182 ballots returned, but only 2,170 mail-ins were ever sent. These two precincts total 11,994 ballots, which alone is more than the margin needed to alter the outcome of the Presidential Election. • In all, there were 264,000 votes from precincts in Pima County with over 92 percent turnout for mail-in ballots. • Significant anomalies were discovered for mail-in ballot returns in Pima County. In precincts with anomalous high turnout of over 92 percent in Pima County, mail-in ballots started flipping from 6 percent Republican for Biden to 40 percent of Republicans voting for Biden. • The election integrity group True the Vote identified more than 202 ballot traffickers in Maricopa County who made 4,282 individual drop box visits during the 2020 General Election. • Two individuals were charged and plead guilty for ballot harvesting in Yuma County, Arizona during the 2020 primary election. • A computer scientist testified that an algorithm similar to what is used in cruise control or self-driving cars was present affecting the early votes in Pima and Maricopa counties in the 2020 General Election, with the ability to “reach and maintain a predetermined setpoint (outcome) despite unplanned disturbances.” • Walter C. Daugherity, a senior lecturer emeritus in the Department of Computer Science and Engineering at Texas A&M University who developed courses in artificial intelligence, expert systems, programming and software design, analyzed the Cast Vote Records, finding, “ballots in Maricopa County and Pima County were artificially processed through the tabulators tracking a ProportionalIntegral-Derivative (PID) type control function in a closed-loop feedback system.” • Daugherity, who has received over $2.8 million in grant funding and was previously consulted as a computer expert by the New York Times, Washington Post, IBM Federal Systems Division, the Texas Department of Agriculture, U.S. Customs Service, as well as classified work, discovered “significant and systematic decline in the cumulative ratio as counting progresses,” in the early mail-in and in-person votes for the Presidential Election results in Maricopa County and Pima County. • For example, the “first block of ballots being 75 [percent] for a candidate, the next block of ballots being 74 [percent] for a candidate, the next block of ballots being 73 [percent] for a candidate, and so on, systematically declining all the way to Election Day.” • Daugherity’s expert opinion is that the downward sloping line in the sequence that votes were recorded indicated a strong control. The cumulative ratio of Biden to Trump votes for all cast vote records before Election Day in recorded order for Pima County declines from over 300 percent to 157 percent by Election Day. • “Such a uniform and predictable pattern is so statistically implausible that it would not occur without artificial manipulation,” according to Daugherity. The data’s lack of independence cannot be explained by the preference of Democrats voting earlier than Republicans.Image Image Image Image JUST IN - President Trump Releases Summary of Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election in the Swing States MICHIGAN?? • Michigan was called by 154,188 votes. • A record 5,579,317 votes were cast and certified in Michigan in the 2020 General Election, the highest turnout in 60 years. To date, Michigan has never shown 5,579,317 voters listed for the 2020 Election in its Qualified Voter File, the state’s database for all voter registration records. • As of December 2023, Michigan has 271,566 more votes than the number of voters listed in its Qualified Voter File for Nov. 3, 2020, more than one and a half times the Election margin. • In data obtained from the Secretary of State’s office on nearly a monthly basis since the Election, the most voters ever recorded in the Qualified Voter File was 5,511,303 voters in April 2021. This means Michigan’s own election records showed 68,014 more votes than voters. However, the number of voters listed in the Qualified Voter File has been in flux ever since December 2020, and always short of the voters needed to reconcile the total votes cast. A complete list of voters from 2020 has never been provided. • The number of voter IDs listed as voting in 2020 has steadily declined since February 2022. As of December 2023, there was a total of 5,307,751 voters listed as voting on Nov. 3, 2020 in the Qualified Voter File. Voter history files continue to be removed from the record, resulting in 271,566 less vote history records than necessary to reconcile the results. • Each month voter histories from the 2020 Election are being manipulated. Thousands of unique votes are removed from the voter history files, and other unique votes added. Since December 2020, 270,559 voter histories for 2020 have been removed, while 103,128 have been added. • Individual voter histories are constantly changing, including the history of the state’s Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer, whose voting history is missing votes throughout 2020. • A complete list of voters was requested via a Freedom of Information Act request in December 2021 and took nine months for the state to fulfill. Two datasets were provided, and neither matched. The first dataset fell 22,146 voters short, while the second dataset was 120,883 absentee ballots short. • Democrats threatened Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers and doxxed children in order to certify the 2020 results. Monica Palmer, then the chair of the Wayne County Board of Supervisors, cited the fact that 70 percent of Detroit’s mail-in ballot counts were still “out of balance and unexplained” from the August primary as a reason why she initially voted against certifying the 2020 Election results. Palmer was “bullied and threatened” and “feared for her safety” due to threats she received for voting no. A Democrat Michigan State representative-elect attacked Palmer over her certification vote, and revealed where her children went to school, saying, “I want you to think about what that means for your kids.” • Officials in Detroit illegally blocked Republican poll challengers’ access, covered the windows, called the cops, and denied lawful challenges in order to count ballots in secret. • Affidavits and video evidence revealed thousands of ballots were delivered through a back door of the TCF center, the central counting facility in Detroit, at 3:30 a.m. on Election night. • A report seeking to “debunk” issues of fraud released by the Michigan State Senate Oversight Committee confirmed a “large volume” of ballots were delivered to the TCF center with no chain of custody in the middle of the night. • An estimated 289,866 absentee ballots were identified as sent to people who never requested them, “something that would be illegal,” according to the senate committee. • Mark Zuckerberg gave Michigan $16.8 million through his nonprofit Center for Tech and Civic Life. • Detroit received $7.4 million to “dramatically” expand the vote for Democrats. The grants financed drop boxes “to facilitate the return of absentee ballots,” like the ones that came in the TCF center after midnight. • The election integrity group True the Vote uncovered the same pattern of widespread ballot trafficking between NGOs and ballot drop boxes in Michigan. Numerous instances of ballot stuffing were caught on camera in Detroit, including video where a woman can be seen going to a drop box, and abruptly returning to her car after realizing the stack had no signatures. The woman then signs the ballots, and deposits the illicit ballots she had just signed into the drop box. • Secretary Jocelyn Benson made unlawful changes to signature verification rules for absentee ballots, ordering election workers to presume all were legitimate. A judge ruled Benson’s order was invalid, but not until months following the election, and just 0.1 percent of mail-in ballots were rejected in the November 2020 Election for all signature issues. The rejection rate for mismatching signatures was just 0.04 percent, as only 1,400 out of 3.4 million ballots were rejected. • Secretary Benson has lost in court six times for issues related to the 2020 Election. • A fraudulent voter registration scheme was discovered in October 2020 and documented in a police report in Muskegon County and hidden for nearly 3 years after the 2020 Election. • A city clerk in Muskegon witnessed a woman drop off between 8,000 and 10,000 voter registrations at the clerk office on Oct. 8, 2020, many appearing to be fraudulent. The incident was reported it to the Muskegon Police Department one week later. Eight thousand new voter registrations in Muskegon would amount to over 20 percent of the city’s population of only 38,000 residents. • An ensuing investigation confirmed thousands of voter registrations in the same handwriting and many invalid or non-existent addresses. The suspect told Michigan State Police that she was being paid $1,150 per week to “find unregistered voters and provide them with a form so they can get registered to vote or obtain their absentee ballot.” The police found “dozens of new phones” and “hundreds of pre-paid payment cards” during the investigation. • A Department of State analyst consulted in the investigation confirmed a quantity of voter applications were “clearly fraudulent” and others were “highly suspicious having either erroneous or are missing key pieces of information.” Others appeared to be legitimate. • The organization behind the scheme was GBI Strategies, a firm hired by numerous Democrat campaigns. GBI Strategies was funded by a super PAC called “Black PAC,” which paid the firm $11,254,919 to register voters for Joe Biden in 2020. Employees of GBI Strategies were paid $15 an hour or $120 a day, according to the police report. • GBI Strategies was believed to be operating not just in Muskegon, but throughout Michigan and in other Swing States. • Democrat Attorney General Dana Nessel’s office contacted the Muskegon Police Department and asked Michigan State Police to assist with a joint investigation. The Michigan police then turned their investigation over to the FBI. • Andrew Kloster, deputy general counsel at the United States Office of Personnel Management during the Trump Administration, said he was made aware of the investigation into GBI Strategies before the 2020 Election and attempted to raise the issue for further investigation. He was informed there were “standing orders not to deal with election matters” in the offices of the White House counsel office and Attorney General Bill Barr. • The investigation was not made public until 2023, after the police reports were obtained through a Michigan Freedom of Information Act request.Image Image Image Image President Trump Releases Summary of Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election in the Swing States I look forward to fact-checkers debunking this, citing sources from the corporate media that spent four years claiming Donald Trump was a Russian agent and dismissing Hunter Biden's laptop as Russian disinformation. I encourage you to personally review the numerous citations in this report and reach your own conclusions. cdn.nucleusfiles.com/e0/e04e630c-63… • • • Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh https://cdn.nucleusfiles.com/e0/e04e630c-63ff-4bdb-9652-e0be3598b5d4/summary20of20election20fraud20in20the20swing20states.pdf Leading with links to cdn.nucleusfiles.com (whoever that is), with a wall of text starting with "KanekoaTheGreat", isn't the best start. Well it's a darned good thing that you only have to read about 3-4 paragraphs or so of the text to get an idea about it. The easiest way to manipulate suckers in america: Say exactly what you mean... but use more than 2 paragraphs and use multisyllabic words. So... no - I didn't, and am not going to. I have literally 1000 hours of inputs per day I should study. One's like this with sourcing like that aren't going to make the cut. I wasted enough time a couple years ago chasing medical research papers being quoted as an authority here once, that were actually written by a high-school kid for Godsake; with a false-premise that isn't coming true, that half this forum is still convinced is true, yet isn't actually showing up. It was an absurd waste of time and so no - I'm not reading random-fuck sourced monologs as authoritarian reference material. |
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Quoted: In your 50 years of voting, have you seen a republican run for re-election after increasing the debt 8.4 trillion USD in a single 4 year term? In your 50 years of voting, have you ever seen anyone flip flop harder than those who called out Obama's wreckless spending during his term, whom then vehemently defend and support Trump running for re-election after he spent at a rate TWICE that of Obama? And then these same people call anyone who doesn't support Trump a communist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In my 50 years of voting I've never seen a group disparage the presumptive nominee of their party like here on Arfcom. To what end? Is it sour grapes? I don't get it. In your 50 years of voting, have you seen a republican run for re-election after increasing the debt 8.4 trillion USD in a single 4 year term? In your 50 years of voting, have you ever seen anyone flip flop harder than those who called out Obama's wreckless spending during his term, whom then vehemently defend and support Trump running for re-election after he spent at a rate TWICE that of Obama? And then these same people call anyone who doesn't support Trump a communist. I don't like trump, did vote for him, hate that his picks were so crappy, and will vote for him over biden this time around because I think there's a decent chance he will make federal government and office of the presidency matter less in the future ... and ... Reagan increased the deficit by (reportedly) 1.6 trillion (in 80s dollars, I believe). I'd be surprised if at least some of that didn't happen in his first term. ------------- And yes, we are more tribal in our politics. It's like trump's egotism and wild way of saying things broke the dam and everyone's gone nuts with the way they say stuff. |
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Quoted: Circular? Ok, where was I using the thing I was trying to prove as proof that it is true? Use the quote button, use my own words, exactly what they mean, and hit me in the face with them. ------------------------------------- "Called out that proof doesn't exist" Nice of you to repetitively ignore where I said the courts (wrongfully ) refused to allow people to (legally) get discovery. In simple explicit terms so you can't avoid it: we can't get the proof of that type because bad actors refused to allow it to be gotten. What we DO have is more than enough markers that scream "THIS NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED" and I even listed a tiny few of them in the thread. I believe you know the courts didn't allow the cases to happen, meaning you probably know that nobody could cite evidence that normally only shows up in court cases. You're asking for something you KNOW cannot be reasonably given and you know it's safe for you to do it. You *might* be unaware of the abusive bullcrap the courts pulled to refuse the cases, but than, I've been telling everyone that's reading my posts in this thread over and over again that it happened that way. AFAIK nobody has even told me I'm wrong about that, yall just aren't touching it. When I do post all the markers that indicate fraud and the like may have happened and we'd better bloody well look at it, people crap their diapers and whine and say it's too hard of an ask, too much to read, too much to watch, too much to listen to. Than we go off to other threads and whinge about how the election system is busted. View Quote I give up. Bad actors all along the way only fudged things in favor of the Democrats. Every single judge, court official, etc. Thousands of people were involved along the way in numerous allegations, they all worked in perfect sync across liberal and conservative constituencies, and managed to completely cover it up. You win. |
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Quoted: So... no - I didn't, and am not going to. I have literally 1000 hours of inputs per day I should study. One's like this with sourcing like that aren't going to make the cut. View Quote You're right. Go directly to the source testimony of the people who were first hand involved in the election process and election night and thereafter. Click To View Spoiler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDZkXxFVEU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0-vyw9qbdw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUjTOSDZ0BE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS51Uh1oUlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-44TVFRk6U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e35f4pUIYOg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFs0Jag1Msc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDiNAqFOvcY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PxOYdYCFPA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCfU2KizzdM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7scSfpwnqw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM6q5sstAaE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epqHpxY-ASo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2JndZDZXBo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4cuakECmuA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ZP_HpBKos There you go. The testimony of the people who were there. It had to be given in state hearings because the courts pontius-pilated their way out of it. Pick one, any one, and be just a hair less biased and better than the average mainstream reporter and listen. Yeah, the audio is miserable and they're long. If you're not just saying it to say it, that's as close as you're going to get without being directly involved (at least that I know of). Oh, and I'll tell you ignore the dog and pony show with the expert colonel or whatever. Just listen to what the people who were directly involved had to say. Start adding that stuff up. See what the outline in the wall they give starts to look like. ETA: and If I'm wrong in saying that their testimony collectively SCREAMS "you should investigate this!" ... come tell me. I want to know if I'm wrong. |
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Quoted: I give up. Bad actors all along the way only fudged things in favor of the Democrats. Every single judge, court official, etc. Thousands of people were involved along the way in numerous allegations, they all worked in perfect sync across liberal and conservative constituencies, and managed to completely cover it up. You win. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Circular? Ok, where was I using the thing I was trying to prove as proof that it is true? Use the quote button, use my own words, exactly what they mean, and hit me in the face with them. ------------------------------------- "Called out that proof doesn't exist" Nice of you to repetitively ignore where I said the courts (wrongfully ) refused to allow people to (legally) get discovery. In simple explicit terms so you can't avoid it: we can't get the proof of that type because bad actors refused to allow it to be gotten. What we DO have is more than enough markers that scream "THIS NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED" and I even listed a tiny few of them in the thread. I believe you know the courts didn't allow the cases to happen, meaning you probably know that nobody could cite evidence that normally only shows up in court cases. You're asking for something you KNOW cannot be reasonably given and you know it's safe for you to do it. You *might* be unaware of the abusive bullcrap the courts pulled to refuse the cases, but than, I've been telling everyone that's reading my posts in this thread over and over again that it happened that way. AFAIK nobody has even told me I'm wrong about that, yall just aren't touching it. When I do post all the markers that indicate fraud and the like may have happened and we'd better bloody well look at it, people crap their diapers and whine and say it's too hard of an ask, too much to read, too much to watch, too much to listen to. Than we go off to other threads and whinge about how the election system is busted. I give up. Bad actors all along the way only fudged things in favor of the Democrats. Every single judge, court official, etc. Thousands of people were involved along the way in numerous allegations, they all worked in perfect sync across liberal and conservative constituencies, and managed to completely cover it up. You win. You even find a way to give up that's screwed up and doesn't represent what I posted. You're talented. No, this is where you go find one instance, cherry pick your best, and say "but look at this case and why the court wouldn't let them have a case." Since when did we all get so weak? Have some fire in your belly. Want to prove me wrong by using my own words to do it and than try to do it. What's the worst that happens? You waste some time? Yes, fellow thinkers act like fellow thinkers. The amount of action you see that is alike and not organized from the top seems to generally depend on people thinking and feeling alike. How many democrats in heavy D districts in swing states hated trump with an absolute burning fire and wanted him to lose, no matter what? That's how many people you'd get all trying to have exactly that happen. AND we have all sorts of evidence that exactly that did, it's bursting out at the seams and everywhere. For pete's sake, time magazine even BRAGGED about it. eta: get off the mat rocky. If I'm really saying and doing what you think I am, I deserve it. <---- I don't mean this sarcastically in the slightest bit. If you're right, rehtorically knock my teeth out with the truth. |
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Quoted: You even find a way to give up that's screwed up and doesn't represent what I posted. You're talented. No, this is where you go find one instance, cherry pick your best, and say "but look at this case and why the court wouldn't let them have a case." Since when did we all get so weak? Have some fire in your belly. Want to prove me wrong by using my own words to do it and than try to do it. What's the worst that happens? You waste some time? Yes, fellow thinkers act like fellow thinkers. The amount of action you see that is alike and not organized from the top seems to generally depend on people thinking and feeling alike. How many democrats in heavy D districts in swing states hated trump with an absolute burning fire and wanted him to lose, no matter what? That's how many people you'd get all trying to have exactly that happen. AND we have all sorts of evidence that exactly that did, it's bursting out at the seams and everywhere. For pete's sake, time magazine even BRAGGED about it. eta: get off the mat rocky. If I'm really saying and doing what you think I am, I deserve it. <---- I don't mean this sarcastically in the slightest bit. If you're right, rehtorically knock my teeth out with the truth. View Quote Mark Twain was correct. It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. |
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Quoted: Mark Twain was correct. It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You even find a way to give up that's screwed up and doesn't represent what I posted. You're talented. No, this is where you go find one instance, cherry pick your best, and say "but look at this case and why the court wouldn't let them have a case." Since when did we all get so weak? Have some fire in your belly. Want to prove me wrong by using my own words to do it and than try to do it. What's the worst that happens? You waste some time? Yes, fellow thinkers act like fellow thinkers. The amount of action you see that is alike and not organized from the top seems to generally depend on people thinking and feeling alike. How many democrats in heavy D districts in swing states hated trump with an absolute burning fire and wanted him to lose, no matter what? That's how many people you'd get all trying to have exactly that happen. AND we have all sorts of evidence that exactly that did, it's bursting out at the seams and everywhere. For pete's sake, time magazine even BRAGGED about it. eta: get off the mat rocky. If I'm really saying and doing what you think I am, I deserve it. <---- I don't mean this sarcastically in the slightest bit. If you're right, rehtorically knock my teeth out with the truth. Mark Twain was correct. It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Here's the silver lining: After you roll that boulder up the hill just a little bit you find out the stupid pedestrian everyday tactics that people pulled ... and they are not giant untouchable things, stuff that can't be meaningfully fought. If we wanted to, we could get in there and make that stuff miserably hard for them to do. It is NOT hopeless. But you have to suffer to learn what they did to know it. This stuff can be pushed back on the most local of local levels and from every direction. ETA: and if I'm just a delusional hack and I didn't see what I saw? Ok. so you made the election process more honest. |
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