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Posted: 7/29/2014 3:07:20 PM EDT

Do tanto edged knives pierce better than conventional edged knives?

Are there any ideal points or is it really cosmetic mall ninja appeal?

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:08:06 PM EDT

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Yes they can pierce through a car door.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:10:38 PM EDT

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Really? Is the edge stronger too?

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:11:18 PM EDT

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When do i need to stab a car door?

Gimmick

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:11:31 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/29/2014 3:12:12 PM EDT

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As Commando223 said, their points can take more use than a drop point or similar.
The better ones are also hollow ground for a really nice edge.

But for regular every day use I'd still rather have a "normal" blade contour.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:13:41 PM EDT

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Stabbing through Ninja.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:14:47 PM EDT

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Chisel point knives (tanto for the mall ninjas) are easier to sharpen since they have two flat edges, instead of a constant curve.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:20:58 PM EDT

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Better penetration through ancient Japanese armor.

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Posted: 7/29/2014 3:22:01 PM EDT

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Stupid.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:26:39 PM EDT

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It is the number one solution for all your deep Tactical penetration jobs.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:27:36 PM EDT

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I heard it is more stabby.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:29:03 PM EDT

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I can't sand the darn things.
I keep a great edge on my " normal " blades just fine.
I also cut meat for six years, we didn't have a sharpening service, so blade maintenance was up to the individual.
A three position stone, a good steel and a diamond steel are your friends.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:29:18 PM EDT

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tantos like 95% of the knife industry are pure marketing BS.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:30:45 PM EDT

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As Commando223 said, their points can take more use than a drop point or similar.
The better ones are also hollow ground for a really nice edge.

But for regular every day use I'd still rather have a "normal" blade contour.

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What's the point in having the stronger point if you're going to make the edge weaker by giving it a hollow grind?

Convex is da bestest.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:33:58 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/29/2014 3:35:38 PM EDT

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Tanto supposedly gives more strength to the tip of the knife if you pry with it, but makes them a bitch to sharpen.

I like the "reverse tanto" which has the strength, but is easy to keep an edge.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:37:03 PM EDT

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I'm not a knife expert, but I prefer spear/drop point knives.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:48:22 PM EDT

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I'm looking at a tanto style bayonet.

It would only be used for a bayonet. So, would a tanto style be favorable for stabbing as a bayonet vs. a conventional edge?

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:49:55 PM EDT

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Is that Aimless?

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:51:46 PM EDT

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I'm looking at a tanto style bayonet.

It would only be used for a bayonet. So, would a tanto style be favorable for stabbing as a bayonet vs. a conventional edge?

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Meh, the appeal to the tanto style blade would be that the angle the blade forms to taper towards the tip could be used as a sort of secondary tip which would be good for quick striking motions, as the force would be applied to that secondary point as it would with the regular tip.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:53:25 PM EDT

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Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Posted: 7/29/2014 3:55:34 PM EDT

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When do i need to stab a car door?

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Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Why would I stab a car door in the first place?

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:02:11 PM EDT

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I make them because they sell and look ninja. My best penetrating designs are spears points. Spear points will go through car doors too.

There's also American tanto versus traditional Japanese tanto to consider. The traditional Japanese tanto was designed for slashing while the American version is hyped to be about penetration. Just my 2 cents.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:02:44 PM EDT

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Because Prius.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:03:25 PM EDT

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So will a clip point for that matter

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:22:40 PM EDT

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My only pet peeve with reverse tanto blades is that they often have chisel grinds . . which isn't bad, but they usually have left handed chisel grinds on right handed knives for some inexplicable reason.

For example, the CRKT KISS. Left hand chisel on a right handed knife. Try to cut something like that and your cut will get all wonky.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:29:23 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/29/2014 4:29:31 PM EDT

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My only pet peeve with reverse tanto blades is that they often have chisel grinds . . which isn't bad, but they usually have left handed chisel grinds on right handed knives for some inexplicable reason.

For example, the CRKT KISS. Left hand chisel on a right handed knife. Try to cut something like that and your cut will get all wonky.

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I can't stand chisel grinds for cutting and I won't make them.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:36:06 PM EDT

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The Tanto tip is the best tool in the universe for taking apart mini-lego pieces that are otherwise bonded for life. Beyond that...I got nothing.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:39:40 PM EDT

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Easier to use as a scraper.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:42:30 PM EDT

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yea, being useless as shit.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:44:08 PM EDT

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When do i need to stab a car door?

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Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Why would I stab a car door in the first place?

Why not? I took the roof off of a Pinto using the claw end of a framing hammer once. Good times.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:46:34 PM EDT

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The Tanto tip is the best tool in the universe for taking apart mini-lego pieces that are otherwise bonded for life. Beyond that...I got nothing.

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Tanto's make better letter openers too

I'll take a Tanto over a drop point any day

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:50:03 PM EDT

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"normal" knife: 1 point

Tanto bladed knife: 2 points

If you use the point of your knife more than the rest of the blade then having another point may be up your ally.

I don't particularly care for it but I'm sure there are those that do...

Having a straight blade does make sharpening easier.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:51:01 PM EDT

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I found mine quite handy for that purpose.

Also nice for scoring lines into wood.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:52:34 PM EDT

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I like them as utility blades. I use the angled tip at the front for box opening, and the long flat edge for cutting.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:54:33 PM EDT

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I hear it makes the tip strong for penetrating deep

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:55:04 PM EDT

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Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Why would I stab a car door in the first place?

Same reason you'd shoot a refrigerator.

13ers

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:55:58 PM EDT

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So deep I put that ass to sleep.

Posted: 7/29/2014 4:57:57 PM EDT

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Tanto condoms perhaps?

Posted: 7/29/2014 5:07:07 PM EDT

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I sometimes sharpen coworkers' knives. Tantos suck! Mall ninja FTW.

Posted: 7/29/2014 5:12:03 PM EDT

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Chisel point knives (tanto for the mall ninjas) are easier to sharpen since they have two flat edges, instead of a constant curve.

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This.

Posted: 7/29/2014 5:25:45 PM EDT

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Gimmick

Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Why would I stab a car door in the first place?

Because you just never know!!

I'll excuse your lack of preparedness, situational awareness, and readiness to being a filthy 13'er.

Posted: 7/29/2014 5:48:03 PM EDT

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Since I'm a mall ninja I think I'm going to get the Ontario Tanto bayonet for my mossberg 590a1.

Posted: 7/29/2014 5:53:31 PM EDT

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Mmm love me some 590a1 bayonet.

Posted: 7/29/2014 5:55:01 PM EDT

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What if a car door attacks you?

Posted: 7/29/2014 5:58:47 PM EDT

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This is the shape of a traditional tanto

This is the shape of the tanto that we are discussing

The above is a Japanese kitchen knife that is used for skinning eels. It is called Unagi-Bocho.

This is an above view of a tanto and a drop point. I don't see any advantage over the drop point.

I used the Bark River because it was the owner that taught me the difference.

Posted: 7/29/2014 6:00:42 PM EDT

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Stabbing through mesh or armor.

Also prying.

Posted: 7/29/2014 6:03:14 PM EDT

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My only pet peeve with reverse tanto blades is that they often have chisel grinds . . which isn't bad, but they usually have left handed chisel grinds on right handed knives for some inexplicable reason.

For example, the CRKT KISS. Left hand chisel on a right handed knife. Try to cut something like that and your cut will get all wonky.

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Only because your frame of visual reference is usually the flat surface, tilt the blade and the item being cut will not know the difference (although is does indeed impart some torque to your grip which is an odd feeling for something with resistance). Trade off of the (visual) design. My KISS cuts packing tape.