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Posted: 8/30/2008 3:34:45 PM EDT
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She never said why I think it was a payback Yes She has |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 5:09:09 PM EDT
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I keep hearing crap from my libtard pals that she's "under investigation". It's all over the left wing media...and its all bullshit!
Mark my words...this woman is going to mean the difference in this election. She is squeaky clean, smart as hell, conservative and damn fine looking. Since most of our electorate likes beautiful people, she already has one beautiful leg up...so to speak!    
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Posted: 8/30/2008 7:41:38 PM EDT
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http://video.google.com/?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wv
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Posted: 8/30/2008 8:01:28 PM EDT
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HR,
Keep up the outstanding work! You are an asset to this board. Best regards, 583 |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 9:12:14 PM EDT
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interesting read... thanks....
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Posted: 8/30/2008 9:32:32 PM EDT
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I just copied and pasted the whole thing HiramRanger posted on the comcast forums. I'm not sure how much good it will do. Also added how the damn libs are making nasty shit up about her. So far the forum is 9 pages long.
http://community.comcast.net/comcastportal/blog/article?message.uid=2340039 over 1800 posts over this. Ok this thread started off funny. Its a pic of a black bear sitting at a picnic bench and the text is;
http://community.comcast.net/comcastportal/board/message?board.id=TheCoffeeShop&thread.id=845778 |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 10:09:44 PM EDT
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Fair enough, thanks for the honest response. |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 11:20:10 PM EDT
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Hiram, supposedly she claims she fired the supervisor for reasons unrelated to the brother in law. I know it's wikipedia, but if it turns out her people contacted the supervisor about the bro in law, then she shitcanned him "coincidentally" for other reasons I think this might have more legs than it originally appeared as that attack does not focus on the bil, who appears to clearly be a dumbass at a minimum en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Public_Safety_Commissioner_dismissal |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 12:00:10 AM EDT
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Thank You. I believe this to be true in what is written, as far as I know . ~Ripak An Alaskan |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 3:33:54 AM EDT
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The guy is 35 and divorced 4 times!
A- He is a real asswipe B- he is really unlucky I'll take A for 1.000 Alex! Bob 
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Posted: 8/31/2008 9:03:03 AM EDT
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We'll see, but Monnegan serves at the pleasure of the Governor and Palin does not need a reason to dismiss an appointee. Could it be a problem? Of course, but there isn't a politician out there that does not have some potential scandal in their closet. As things go, this one would be very minor. An at will employee was let go for possibly two reasons, failure to perform as officially stated or failure to clean house as alleged by the "victim." I think the aide is going to be hung out to dry in this, at worst Sarah will be rebuked for exercising poor judgment/failure to monitor her staff or something along those lines. If they try to conclude the investigation conveniently before the election it will be seen as a political hit job. She was smart, she is cooperating and even asked the AG to investigate it in addition to the independent investigation. She probably learned something from the recent Spitzer scandals. Don't stonewall, get out front, let the sun shine in. This was a known about issue, and McCain's people clearly took it into consideration when they vetted her and chose her. As always, there is the potential for it to blow up, but I'm not really worried. The left is trying to make this sound much more nefarious than it is. |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 3:26:11 PM EDT
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Question
When did The BIL become a POS LEO? Was it before or after her sister decided to divorce him? I Happen to know some cops. Worse thing that could happen to them is to get a divorce. For example He shot a moose illegally versus he shot a moose using his wifes hunting tag and she was right next to him when he did it He drank in his state trooper car versus he drank in his Police car while off duty when it was sitting in his driveway State troopers here bring their cars home and park them on their driveways The issue is did she abuse her power as governor to get her sisters husband fired from a job. I also think that if you looked up the stats LEOs have a far higher Divorce and suicide rate than the rest of us mere mortals I like her looks especially holding a M-4, That doesnt make her qualified to lead us Answered my own question
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Posted: 8/31/2008 3:46:35 PM EDT
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Read the first post. Friends said he drove in a patrol car with an open beer. Also there is a report of him getting dragged away from a bar fight and getting pulled over for dwi but the officer who pulled him over "thought he was drinking but not legally drunk" [wink] [wink] That smells of an ongoing problem with booze. I agree the moose thing is complete horseshit. You could fill New York's jails with guy's who have used their wife's tag to take a deer, usually while the wife was home and still asleep in bed. The tasering the nephew thing also falls into the "people do these things" category. The threat to shoot his father in law is the disturbing one, so I guess it turns on whether you believe Palin or the trooper. I'd put my money on Palin, and that kind of crap lines up with his flashing his badge during the bar fight as him being a big mouth. |
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Posted: 8/31/2008 7:14:05 PM EDT
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Not sure if it has been posted, but here is a video of her reaction where she says "I did nothing wrong, bring it on."
linky |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 2:41:11 AM EDT
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Some of the coments on that video already show how brain dead the loonies are:
Wondering "how" Palin got to where she is? Nobody has explained how Obama did. He's the turtle on the fencepost. Another comment states that the Dem ticket has 40 years of experience, compared to only 24 years on the Repub ticket. *sigh* |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 5:19:56 AM EDT
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"Wooten is 35...has been married and divorced four times."
This is all you really need to know. The guy's a loser... |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 6:15:24 AM EDT
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I spent an hour talking to somebody from Alaska last night that is close to the family and a bit of a political insider. The conversation convinces me that there was no impropriety. I also need to find the quote as part of the public record, but apparently Monegan said at no time did Sarah, Todd, any family, friends or staff ask that Wooten be fired. It is only Monegan's SPECULATION that he was fired because of not firing Wooten, at no time did anybody order Moonegan to fire Wooten.
Monegan admits Palin never told him to fire anybody... but he felt pressure from those around her. Yet he can't even say that anybody around her told him she wanted Wooten fired, was more of a status inquiry. Bailey, the aide, looks to have gone off the reservation on his own. Something that sadly does happen by true believers that make serving an elected official their life. We've all heard of plausible deniability, and I think that could be at play here. He knew something was of concern to his boss so he took it upon himself to try to solve the problem for her. He may have stepped over the line in doing so. Hardly a major scandal. He was suspended, and I suspect he will end up losing his job for it. But I've yet to see anything that would blow-up in Palin's and McCain's face. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 7:32:26 AM EDT
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Good thread, Thanks
Headline on "Trooper Gate" |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 8:57:52 AM EDT
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Middle America will not care. Threatened her father, tazered her nephew is justification for most folks to use your position of power to take out a threat to the family. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 2:05:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2008 8:56:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2008 9:06:22 PM EDT
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I just got done watching Larry King, the MSM is rying everything they can to make this into something. Their was also new electronic evidence mentioned.
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Posted: 9/1/2008 9:15:11 PM EDT
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there is a potentially larger problem brewing right now, the Palins were members of an Alaskan Independence Party in the 1990s and Sarah has addressed their convention. One of the planks of the AIP is independence for Alaska and calling for a vote to remain a state or become an independent nation. ABC News has it on their website. ETA... I should mention, even the AIP leadership does not know if the Palins supported the independence plank of the party or were members because they also support states' rights and more Alaskan control of federal lands and the natural resources contained therein. The leader of the party acknowledged many members do not support secession. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 9:28:16 PM EDT
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So they have nothing but the fact that she was a member at one point of a party that had sucession as plank but apparenty as you say, the party leader saids many don't suport such a action. In other words just more rumors and vile bullshit ammo to be spewed by the left? The only way we will know is if a video surfaces is what your saying correct? ....I do certainly hope this isn't true. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 9:34:17 PM EDT
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here is the recent video of her that was sent to the AIP to address their convention. It is in my mind innocent and potentially exculpatory. What they will do is drag out the party platform that says secession and combine it with her recent remarks where she was asked if she would consider running for VP if asked in which she said she would have to know what was in it for Alaska... the motto of the AIP is Alaska first. A good ad man could do a VERY damaging piece with this. Would it be a game ender? No, but it has potential to do damage in ways that a lot of the trash they have dredged up can't. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 9:43:17 PM EDT
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I certainly hope this isn't game ender. Maybe this will piss the 527's off and will remind Middile America of what Chairman Obama has said about bitter americans and his wonderful moral compass pastor wright. Lets keep our fingers crossed gentlemen, the left is royaly pissed lets hope they provoke the conservative 527's. 
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Posted: 9/1/2008 9:54:32 PM EDT
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Point of order: What loyal American didn't want to secede during the Clinton Regime??
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Posted: 9/1/2008 10:02:16 PM EDT
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I agree that its a bullshit attack, but its one that could be effective even if disinegnuous. I suppose an effective reply would be, "the AIP is a major political party in Alaska that succeeded in electing a recent Governor. Among the party's positions are increased states' rights, transfer of federal lands to state control and greater determination of the use of natural resources in Alaska such as ANWR. While secession is a plank of the party, many members do not support this aspect of the party platform. The Palins never advocated secession."
And behind the scenes subordinates could casually mention its not like they were part of a domestic terrorist group that advocated violent overthrow of the government and conducted bombings of government buildings and murder of law enforcement officers the way that Bill Ayers organization Weather Underground did. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 10:10:26 PM EDT
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thanks for the info. I hadn't heard about this until my dad mentioned it to me during dinner.
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Posted: 9/1/2008 10:17:14 PM EDT
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Good news is a DUer made a very reasoned argument in support of the AIP and the hive turned on him...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6875746 That is usually how they behave when facts be damned, they want blood. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 10:30:14 PM EDT
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You know what? None of this is going to matter.
W had WAY more baggage than Palin does and he won two terms as president. Clinton had WAY more baggage than Palin does and he won two terms as president. If Palin does well in the debates with Biden (which is pretty much impossible not to) then she will be fine. People don't vote for the VP, they vote for the President and in the end I think that there are going to be a lot of people who won't pull the lever for Obama. I really truly believe that this is McCain's election to lose now, and I have yet to see a campaign where stupid personal scandals cost the nominee the election. Policy and the perception that one candidate will truly make things better for Americans is what will decide this election. All of this mud slinging isn't going to get Osama anywhere. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 11:08:44 PM EDT
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I think its too early to play this card but the Dems are desperate. I think they are very worried about the odd pre-convention momentum McCain is getting in this race.
Obama didn't get much of a bump from his convention and McCain grabbed the attention the day after the convention ended by trotting out a "surprise running mate". How much pro-Obama press are we seeing right now? None. It's all about Palin. Obama lost ground because he couldn't handle the scrutiny over the past few months. If she comes out of trooper-gate relatively clean, it'll be great for the McCain ticket. Palin has the potential to energize the Republican ticket (she's more conservative than McCain, she's a she, she's still pretty hot) which is something VP candidates rarely do. What voters did Biden bring to the table that Obama didn't already have? Biden, as the senior senator with all the experience, actually may have his work cut out for him in the debates. People expect Palin to be the underdog so she will actually win the debates if she keeps it close. But Biden runs the risk of alienating voters (especially soccer moms) if he comes off as arrogant or condenscending towards Palin - the old beating up on a woman perception. If McCain can package her as an "every woman" she can rock the ticket. I think the biggest negative out there for her is her beauty pageant history...that's something that some women would hold against her and stereotype her as someone who got there on her looks rather than her merits. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 11:37:15 PM EDT
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This is a great article, and thanks to the OP for pasting it for us. What struck me the most was this. Here's a woman whose family is in a rough spot. Her sister calls her, and she hears, through that call, her sister's husband threaten to shoot her father if he gets involved. How would Hillary respond to that? Would anybody call her, in the first place? Then how about someone like Obama or Biden? They might call the police. More likely, they'd suggest that the sister can live with them, or something, to stay safe. What's this lady do? Knowing that her sister's with a violent, armed, man? She *GOES OVER THERE* and watches over her sister from outside, and makes sure she's safe. Granted, it's not much different from what most people here would do. But she's going to be the vice president, and possibly the president. This is a woman who genuinely seems to have courage and compassion. Not from watching Oprah, but from being a good, and strong, person. I thought that was interesting, in these days of zero tolerance, and always retreating. She instinctively goes TOWARD the violent, armed, guy. I'm positive that President Bush would, too. In fact, he sort of did, that time he waded into some foreign security thugs to help his bodyguard. But I can't think of many other politicians who would do that sort of thing. And certainly no liberals. |
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Posted: 9/1/2008 11:48:39 PM EDT
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+1...on both. |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 12:28:31 AM EDT
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Sorry I'm too lazy to post it, but check the A.P. Wires..... There's a story explaining the vetting process on Palin there. For an A.P. story, it is very positive for Palin/ McCain.
Should piss the left off. Goodnight!
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Posted: 9/2/2008 12:06:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2008 12:52:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2008 2:00:38 PM EDT
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I wonder who was Obama's drug dealers were?
What kinds of drugs? |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 2:13:16 PM EDT
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So what is Wooten's arfcom name? 
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Posted: 9/2/2008 2:19:24 PM EDT
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whole lot of conjecture... they better have more than that. Dailey never said in the phone call to fire Wooten, he said there were questions with the wealth of evidence compiled why he was still working. That's an inquiry, not an order. As for firing Monegan, sounds like he is a competent man that can handle a limited repertoire and rather than having macro responsibility she felt he would best be utilized on a micro level, focusing on a couple of issues which he seems to have an interest in rather than an entire public safety portfolio. Sounds to me like Monegan is a little butt hurt at what he perceives as a slight. And if Sarah called him, where are THOSE recordings? |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 3:28:21 PM EDT
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Fuck that guy.
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Posted: 9/2/2008 6:42:20 PM EDT
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Here's a couple of fresh points:
1 Monegan was NOT terminated. He was offered a different position (demotion) and chose to resign. I think this is a very important fact being left out of the discussion. 2 When people talk about how this should have been handled better, they mean that Palin had an aide offer the demotion to Monegan instead of doing it herself. I believe she may have been out of state at the time. Early on, she also stated that she did not pressure Monegan to fire Wooten. She probably did not, but it seems her husband and staff did. Not that I care, the douche should be fired. There are a few rotten apples in the troopers and they all need to go. Sarah funded a bunch of new positions to raise a fresh crop and Monegan did not fill them. Instead he wanted money for goodies and whiz bang stuff. This is likely the reason he was let go, not that is matters as our Governor has the ability to dismiss any of the commissioners for any reason. I believe the attack and phony investigation to be the result of the Dims seeking to attack any potential VP candidates early on. Sarah has been a great governor and will make a fine VP. Palin for President 2016 |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:09:12 PM EDT
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Any more news on the AIP? I have the feeling the MSM is going to do a little "tit for tat" because of how the messiah's speech was drowned out by Palin being picked as the VP. I guess more then anything if the MSM is up to something with this they will want to unleash just after the convention to drown out any speech from McCain or Palin.
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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:43:53 PM EDT
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/?scp=9&sq=palin&st=cse NY Times running a retraction, she was NEVER a member |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 5:04:13 PM EDT
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noted
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Posted: 9/3/2008 5:05:14 PM EDT
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Retraction has yet to be run according to Fox... mother fuckers!
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Posted: 9/3/2008 6:02:59 PM EDT
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Today Sarah's attorney was on our local talk radio. The guy needs to GET HIS ASS ON CNN, FOX, MSNBC, AND THE LIKE. He was awesome for 25 minutes.
1. Monegan said last week to the Anchorage Daily News that NO ONE pressured him over Wooten. Not the Governor, not Bailey, no one. 2. The person chairing this "investigation" Hollis French, Democrat Senator, told ABC news YESTERDAY that "a damaging report about Sarah Palin will be released on Oct. 31" even though NOTHING has started yet! No emails reviewed, no people interviewed, nothing. 3. Monegan filed No Complaint of any type against anyone; therefore under state ethics laws there can be no "investigation". 4. The legislature is insisting on an investigation because they have a question of impropriety. This is in direct violation of Alaska State Law and the Separation of Powers. 5. Under the state constitution Walt Monegan served "at will" and could be terminated at any time for any reason. |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 6:58:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2008 9:37:22 PM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 4:42:14 AM EDT
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dbl
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