Quoted: sgtar15... i wish you would comment on my question.  or SOMEBODY for that matter.  :\  bah.

I will be glad to.
This is a PRIVATE WEB SITE.
The people who OWN IT have established rules that govern the behavior of its MEMBERS who voluntarily joined and by joining accepted those rules.

Glad I could help!

I don't know MM very well.  What little I do know, we got along fine.  I always figured he was a very positive adition to the site.  Still do.

However, I take exception to "drama queen" Goodbye! posts.  If you're gonna go, then say goodbye via IM and e-mail to a few good compadres, and head off.

I was surprised, no, dismayed, to see the very same sayonara post here in GD as well as in the Staff forum.  I think it's way undignified, and maybe a little grandstanding to post this sort of thing in GD when you're a Staff member.  Not that the membership doesn't have a right to know, just the way it was done.  Better to resign the position and stick around to answer questions as a member than to self-immolate and become an instant martyr.

I might be wrong, but I think this related to the recent spate of "kill 'em all" posts directed at Muslims, and MM's dislike of the site policy on such posts.

Here's my take:

I seriously doubt ALL Muslims want to kill us, and I take exception to those who would paint with too broad a brush.  It's not only simplistic, but such an attitude interferes with us seeing the reality of the situation.  Let's face it, there's 1.3 Bil of them.  Think they all agree on what time it is, let alone on killing us all?
Hey, if I'm wrong, I'll revise, but I don't think that likely.

In the meantime, I'll treat the "kill 'em all" posts just like the "all Southerners are rednecks" and "blacks are shiftless' posts.

Pure, bigoted BS.

Anyways, goodbye, MM.  And the best of luck to you.

Quoted: To each his own. Think about how different the world would be with 1.3 billion less people in it.

Hmmm.....interesting point.

Of course, 1.3 Bil people might want a world without YOU.  Think that's right?

Quoted: I don't know MM very well.  What little I do know, we got along fine.  I always figured he was a very positive adition to the site.  Still do. However, I take exception to "drama queen" Goodbye! posts.  If you're gonna go, then say goodbye via IM and e-mail to a few good compadres, and head off. I was surprised, no, dismayed, to see the very same sayonara post here in GD as well as in the Staff forum.  I think it's way undignified, and maybe a little grandstanding to post this sort of thing in GD when you're a Staff member.  Not that the membership doesn't have a right to know, just the way it was done.  Better to resign the position and stick around to answer questions as a member than to self-immolate and become an instant martyr. I might be wrong, but I think this related to the recent spate of "kill 'em all" posts directed at Muslims, and MM's dislike of the site policy on such posts. Here's my take: I seriously doubt ALL Muslims want to kill us, and I take exception to those who would paint with too broad a brush.  It's not only simplistic, but such an attitude interferes with us seeing the reality of the situation.  Let's face it, there's 1.3 Bil of them.  Think they all agree on what time it is, let alone on killing us all? Hey, if I'm wrong, I'll revise, but I don't think that likely. In the meantime, I'll treat the "kill 'em all" posts just like the "all Southerners are rednecks" and "blacks are shiftless' posts. Pure, bigoted BS. Anyways, goodbye, MM.  And the best of luck to you.

Glad I read this . . . +1

There is plenty of free discussions here within the COC.  The rules are simple and straight forward.  Regulation of them is going to be subjective so long as our mods are human and not some computer program.  That's just the way it is.  Regardless, the Muslim threads are regulated pretty much in accordance with the COC.  In the end, it works pretty well.  I think the emotion and stress associated with 911 has a lot of folks on edge and easily irritated.  Does not make all the drama right, but it certainly makes it somewhat understandable.

PS:  Troll guy, knock off the personal attacks.

Mickey, I think threads like this are attempts at attention and piss poor etiquette, but what the hell. I only wished this could have been discussed in private first.

When you were in the hospital and I found out, I did talk to a few people regarding your health and also kept on about it hoping to see you at Bulletfest. Since I was sick as hell and pretty much off the PC during that time, it didnt work for either of us. I don't recall any emails or calls from you, but I don't hold that against anyone. My health is my own concern until I die, then the problem's for all of you to enjoy. If I had ever wanted you removed as staff, I would have done so. If you had thought you were shut out of things, then you should have brought it up, it's very hard to change or correct problems when you keep them to yourself.

As for the PCness of the site, it's simple and I've explained this several times. There are certain things which will get a place shut down and with all the AWB anger from liberals, they've taken shots at us and won a few minor battles the past few weeks which I have had to deal with. Posts regarding the killing of innocents or the wide spread slaughter of a religion can't be allowed on the site without risking its future. If we were very small it wouldn't be much of a risk, but in our current state we draw way too much attention from our enemies and those with the power to shut us down.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, make angry remarks all you want, but be clear as to the target of these statements. "Kill all the terrorists" is not easy to get confused about, "kill them all" is a little vague in a discussion about muslims, iraqis and terrorists. When we were at war, the enemy was more defined and easier to deal with, now things are confusing as hell and it makes it even harder to manage this crap.

I want to see these assholes dead like most of us here, but I'm not about to round up American Muslims and line them up because of terrorists. Let's not forget the wonderful actions of domestic terrorists who happen to be of other religions, should we make generalizations there? We need to focus on finding and killing all terrorists, their supporters, and their protectors.

I'm not asking anyone to suspend their beliefs or their opinions, I'm asking people to supress some of the extreme generalized comments about killing.

I've downgraded your account as per your request. There are obvious issues you have with people and policy here and I only wish you had taken the time to try to work through them. There is no such thing as absolute freedom and we have to act in defense of the thousands on the site.

I'm going to lock this thread now and hopefully people will read my comments and understand a little better why many of our rules exist.