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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:52:16 PM EDT
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Many times. Success rate, even with subsequent defibrilation and drugs, was not very high.  This was between 1979-1996.



 
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:52:21 PM EDT
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you have the best record I've ever heard of.





you must be blessed or something. seriously.
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Yeah.  I work in the MH field.  We're required to do it fairly often (Unfortunately).



I'm still battin' above .500 though!






you have the best record I've ever heard of.





you must be blessed or something. seriously.
We watch our folks pretty close.  I've been doing this for almost 4 decades.  We're prepared.



It's not like like these attacks come out of nowhere.  We know who's at risk,



 
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:53:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:54:23 PM EDT
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4 times in the field as an EMT, 2 brought back, 1 of those passed away a few days later in the ICU.

I stopped counting how many times in a hospital setting when I hit 50. That was in 1994.


Eta: I had an AED for my two EMT "saves". Both were shocked.
One was pretty funny as I had a crowd of people hovering right over us as we worked, but once the AED said "SHOCK ADVISED. STAND CLEAR."  Poof. Everyone disappeared.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:55:44 PM EDT
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As a paramedic,  many many times.

I think my records were 7 in one shift, and 28 in a week.

One save. Who died in the OR.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:55:53 PM EDT
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Lots. Cardiac cath lab.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:56:41 PM EDT
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I have 10 years in the medical field. I think maybe 10 or 12 times so far.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:57:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:58:04 PM EDT
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Once or twice
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:58:19 PM EDT
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Many times.  They all died anyway.  I'm not a very good EMT.
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Unfortunately this is the usual result.  I'm about 0 for 27 (or something like that).
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:58:53 PM EDT
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Many times. Like others have said, even with defibrillation, success rate is very low.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:59:30 PM EDT
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I did the Heimlich on my brother while we were swimming and he started choking on water.

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Lost count, most didn't make it. The one I managed to save ended up later teaching a CCW class for to my fiance. He is a retired Cop and fellow Marine. He was also the only case of torsades I have ever seen
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The heart meds I am on, or were, had a potential reaction of torsades because of the prescription cold/flu/infection meds i was taking. I called my mom (nurse) and asked her what "tore-saydees" was. Needless to say. My flu/cold meds went down the drain quickly.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:59:56 PM EDT
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More times than I can remember.

Mostly a waste of time and effort, whatever underlying organic issue caused the arrest has taken it's toll.

Sometimes you get lucky, traumatic causes are best candidates for a save, something like drowning or electrocution that stopped an otherwise good system, and fixed early.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:00:38 PM EDT
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Hundreds of times. My first time was when I was 14 (1984). I was a JR Firefighter and we used to respond to medical calls with the regular volunteers. If memory serves I had only been certified a couple of months. I remember the guy that certified me being concerned about me being able to get deep enough on adult chest compressions. Passed state boards and got my EMT license at 18. Spent some time working EMS before getting in Law Enforcement at 21. I've never had a field save and I am unaware of anytime the Docs have gotten one back after they were dropped off.  I've watched so many people die If front of me it's sometimes hard to remember their faces. Then again sometimes when I lay down to sleep their faces are all I can see.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:01:37 PM EDT
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In movies a lot you see someone doing CPR on someone who is quite messily dead.  Blood all over, etc.

Anybody seen that do anything more than spread the blood around?
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:02:09 PM EDT
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had a lady at work a few weeks ago ....she was choking and then had a heart attack...or had a heart attack while she was eating and started choking..we never found out which
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:02:12 PM EDT
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Many times in 32 years in the fire service.  11 saves.  I remember my first CPR call.  6 year old kid in a hospital bed at home with a heart condition.  He didn't make it.  I still remember that like yesterday.  I was 18 and first year on the job.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:02:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:02:57 PM EDT
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Very. Especially with elderly people.
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Couple times. When you are the first person to do compressions it is really weird.


I always feel weird about breaking their ribs. It's creepy.


How common is the rib break?


Very. Especially with elderly people.


Very true.  When you're elderly and I start compressions, I know I'm probably going to break a bunch of ribs with the very first compression.  It used to creep me out, but now it's more annoying because the flail chest means compressions feel squishy.

When you go into a hospital and you're old, think very carefully about whether you really, really want CPR.  9 times out of 10 than I do CPR, I think that this person wouldn't want me to be doing what I'm doing to them.  


Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:03:00 PM EDT
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I know a medic on a very busy squad.  He said he's never had a save.  Made me feel a lot better.  Most of our calls are elderly people.  You know they're gone, but with the family standing there you have to do something.
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Many times.  They all died anyway.  I'm not a very good EMT.
In the last 24 years I have actually seen about 3-4 walking talking saves.


I know a medic on a very busy squad.  He said he's never had a save.  Made me feel a lot better.  Most of our calls are elderly people.  You know they're gone, but with the family standing there you have to do something.


I've been on my semi-rural fire department in some role or another since 2005.  I've been a medic for 7 years.  I've had 1 patient survive to walk out of the hospital neurologically intact after cardiac arrest.

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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:04:42 PM EDT
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lol on a unwanted regular basis...i'd say right now at a 1/5 success rate


Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:05:08 PM EDT
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I am 0 for 3
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:05:28 PM EDT
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Many times, usually swapping off between compressions and BVM while paramedics fuck around for 30 mins.  Very few saves.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:05:28 PM EDT
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In movies a lot you see someone doing CPR on someone who is quite messily dead.  Blood all over, etc.

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The guy I gave compressions to yesterday was like that.  Blood everywhere.  I had a facemask and gown on and still kept my eyes squinted and mouth closed  in case blood and other body fluids made it over my mask.

But no, when you're dead like that, you're most likely going to stay dead like that.


Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:06:01 PM EDT
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Yes.
He lived.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:06:06 PM EDT
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Yeah, at least a couple dozen.  They all died.  But I did save a choking baby once.  Wasn't even running a call, just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:06:39 PM EDT
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Did it once, didn't work.

Had it done on me once, worked.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:07:32 PM EDT
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Too many times.  Youngest was 2 weeks, oldest was 90.  Had a few ROSCs, but only hung a lido drip once.  We're trying to do the whole high-quality cpr now where we minimize stopping compressions.  We can limit our time off the chest to a few seconds now... Still a very low success rate.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:07:45 PM EDT
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Medics do them with a BVM. They did take breaths out of layperson CPR though.
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a- push way harder than you thought you'd need to
b- go in knowing you are about to get exhausted. (and be glad rescue breaths are no longer taught)
c- understand they almost always die, no matter what you do.


Trained medics still do breaths.  They took it out of the basic CPR is my understanding.


Medics do them with a BVM. They did take breaths out of layperson CPR though.


I'm required by my employer to take a 4 hour CPR class every other year, and the class I was in two weeks ago still taught giving breaths.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:08:24 PM EDT
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I do it every time I can't get someone else to do it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:09:19 PM EDT
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Probably about 200+
(one of my first jobs was in a hospital ER)
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:10:46 PM EDT
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Yes. Feeling and hearing the sternum crack/break was......weird
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:11:51 PM EDT
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My boss had a heart attack beginning of last month skiing.  Was given cpr after his heart stopped.  Despite broken ribs and ongoing rehab, he started part time work yesterday.

I gave it time a 14 year old drowning.  Underwater 45 minutes.  They did get his heart beating again in the ambulance, but his brain was gone.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:11:54 PM EDT
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I have done it more in the past two weeks than I have in 13 years in the medical field.

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Quit counting around 300 times.  

ICU nurse working on the Rapid Response team of the hospital with the most beds in Minnesota.  Been doing it since before we had a rapid team.  
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:12:26 PM EDT
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No, but I had to perform the Heimlich on my four-year-old son.



Never been so happy for yearly Air Force training in my life.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:12:40 PM EDT
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I wouldn't even begin to guess how many times. Hundreds.   Save rate over the last 90 days is over 30%
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:12:49 PM EDT
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One on a co worker
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:13:56 PM EDT
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Quite a few times. Like most of the other Medics/EMTs in the thread, not many folks make it neurologically intact. The one I remember the best was a guy who got shocked at work and was in V-fib when we got there. Shocked him once and got him back. Heck, we didn't even tube him and he was coming out of it when we got him to the ER.



Worst was back to back pedi codes. Both completely avoidable (drowning and choking on a grape.)
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:14:36 PM EDT
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9 years as a Medic....Yea, a few times
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:14:56 PM EDT
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Last one was covered in their vomit and blood.  CSF and blood coming out of their ears.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:16:05 PM EDT
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Last one was covered in their vomit and blood.  CSF and blood coming out of their ears.
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In movies a lot you see someone doing CPR on someone who is quite messily dead.  Blood all over, etc.



Anybody seen that do anything more than spread the blood around?






Last one was covered in their vomit and blood.  CSF and blood coming out of their ears.
I had one that vomited feces everywhere.

 
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:18:24 PM EDT
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This thread makes me feel better. Did it a couple times, don't think any of them made it after EMS loaded them up.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:18:38 PM EDT
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Yes
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:18:48 PM EDT
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1st- Floated to ER to tech one morning.  Prisoner from county via ambulance.  I went too fast and broke some ribs.  The ER doc started calling me sparky b/c i was going too damn fast.  ie Slow down sparky.  He dead

Funniest - Teaching Cardiac Rehab Class - guy passes out, no pulse, yell to clear room, through him to floor, 2nd compression he wakes up and says STOP YOU'RE HURTING ME!!! He had a 36 second "pause" before lighting back up.  He bought a shiney new pacer in less than 3 hours after that.

Maybe 50 total, 1 save that was post op cabg about 14 hours.  Had an awesome group in the room in minutes (surgeon, ER doc, cardiologist, good rns, good rt) and somebody was blessed that day.

Worst - AAA that blew out, no hope.  Room full of muzzies screaming assaulting themselves and staff (myself included).  Scared the shit out of the other pts on the floor.  I never will forget the look on the internist's face when he was slapped.  He was a lean 6'3" and could have cleared the room in about half a minute had he lost it.  The look we shared when security cleared the place could have written a chapter.  Not a fun day.  "We sue you, We sue you!"

Hats off to all you that can handle this shit for years and years.  I couldn't.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:21:50 PM EDT
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Many times in 32 years in the fire service.  11 saves.  I remember my first CPR call.  6 year old kid in a hospital bed at home with a heart condition.  He didn't make it.  I still remember that like yesterday.  I was 18 and first year on the job.
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I could never have done ped.s.  I would have a hard time handling that.

Old people never bothered me too much, that had a life to live.

Kudos sir.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:23:36 PM EDT
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Just once. Retired British SAS SGT MAJOR . He was waiting for a heart transplant at UAB. Died on a rifle range.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:30:31 PM EDT
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Yes, only once, on a toddler at the swimming pool in an apt. I lived at where they had no lifeguards. Lived and was fine, had just stopped breathing.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:31:19 PM EDT
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I'm 0/3

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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:32:39 PM EDT
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Twice. Car wreck on A1A and another time in an office building and alternated with an AED.

Didn't work.
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