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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:22:08 AM EDT
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You would likely need to adjust your expectation. I bet you find you have no job after you are released. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would expect to be paid VERY well for my jail time if the company was at fault. You would likely need to adjust your expectation. I bet you find you have no job after you are released. So is he responsible for his own actions or not? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:22:49 AM EDT
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This would not fly in the area where I live, particularly during the school year, & especially in the winter. Why? Schools are already running on staggered openings. Elementary, Middle and High school - different start & end times. The streets do not have the capacity to deal with the volume of traffic required to get kids to the dozen or so different schools in our district. Waste disposal ONLY runs before or between school bus runs. For example, either before 6:30am, or after 9:00am but before 2pm.
With as much snow as we have on the ground, some of the (public) school buses are dropping kids off at their gates, because if parents drive up to the bus stops and park on the streets, the two lane roads which have been narrowed due to the shit-tons of snow on either side are now not passable by a bus with a vehicle on the other side. So we park on side streets to wait for our kids, or the bus drivers drop the kids off at our gates if it is on their routes. Garbage was picked up at 5am recently, I was already up, no issues with me even if I was sleeping. Plastic containers, bin grabbers mounted on the trucks, driver never leaves the truck. Surprised this happened in GA. Was expecting Queens, or CA.  |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:23:29 AM EDT
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Yeah, totally the same thing. The person in charge of breaking the rule is not punished, a third party is chosen because it's expedient. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The company he worked for had, however. He's a representative of the company. Oh for fuck sake. "I'm going to jail your child for your refusal to comply with my rules because he represents your family" Yeah, totally the same thing.  Yeah, totally the same thing. The person in charge of breaking the rule is not punished, a third party is chosen because it's expedient. The 3rd party who was directly breaking the rules while working for a company that had previously been warned and fined for violations of those rules. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:24:15 AM EDT
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Sanitation workers should go on strike and just not pickup garbage. Either deal with the damn noise or leave less of a carbon footprint and stop buying and discarding shit.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:24:30 AM EDT
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Retarded mouse.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:24:32 AM EDT
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lol ITT, people from Ohio support the dumb shit that happens in Sandy Springs. Which, actually, makes sense. Most of the people in Sandy Springs are from Ohio.  Not me.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:25:54 AM EDT
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The mosquito sprayer comes by at 3:00am. We give it an armed escort. Truth, Floridians would go to war for the mosquito sprayer guy. He has permission to do anything he wants to my property or livestock  as long as the damned mosquitos get killed.
He comes on to my 10 acres between 10pm and 2am and if its bad enough will use an ATV to pull a smaller sprayer out to some of the less accessible parts. He could wake the dead with the amount of noise he makes, it sounds like music to me though. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:26:01 AM EDT
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If I were the trash company, I'd say OK, we'll pick up after 7.... and then have a throng of trucks in the "problem" neighborhoods right around 7. See how the residents like the traffic increases.
Any additional costs in time and fuel, etc, should get passed on to the community. You want service in a certain way, you pay for it. I understand the problem. Trash trucks are NOT quiet machines. I work nights, so usually the trash truck coming earlier is better for me anyway. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:29:10 AM EDT
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Yeah, totally the same thing. The person in charge of breaking the rule is not punished, a third party is chosen because it's expedient. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The company he worked for had, however. He's a representative of the company. Oh for fuck sake. "I'm going to jail your child for your refusal to comply with my rules because he represents your family" Yeah, totally the same thing. Yeah, totally the same thing. The person in charge of breaking the rule is not punished, a third party is chosen because it's expedient. If your boss asked you to break the law, should you? The story does not say whether he did because he was told to or not anyways. What it does say, implicates that he plead guilty.
McGill will serve the next 14 weekends in jail. His new attorney has filed a motion to withdraw his plea. If anything, the person to blame is the judge, hes the one who handed out the 30 day sentence. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:29:24 AM EDT
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This would not fly in the area where I live, particularly during the school year, & especially in the winter. Why? Schools are already running on staggered openings. Elementary, Middle and High school - different start & end times. The streets do not have the capacity to deal with the volume of traffic required to get kids to the dozen or so different schools in our district. Waste disposal ONLY runs before or between school bus runs. For example, either before 6:30am, or after 9:00am but before 2pm. With as much snow as we have on the ground, some of the (public) school buses are dropping kids off at their gates, because if parents drive up to the bus stops and park on the streets, the two lane roads which have been narrowed due to the shit-tons of snow on either side are now not passable by a bus with a vehicle on the other side. So we park on side streets to wait for our kids, or the bus drivers drop the kids off at our gates if it is on their routes. Garbage was picked up at 5am recently, I was already up, no issues with me even if I was sleeping. Plastic containers, bin grabbers mounted on the trucks, driver never leaves the truck. Surprised this happened in GA. Was expecting Queens, or CA. Make your fucking kids walk. It's just snow. It won't kill them. When dad was stationed at Ramstien AFB in Germany, we lived on base, in one of the farthest buildings from the school. There were no busses, and we got no rides from our 'rents. A couple miles walk, rain, sleet or snow. Shit, I was kids, I had FUN in the snow. We also had to walk home for lunch every fucking day. Snow? Big. Fucking. Deal. I seriously loathe people who think their special snowflakes can't walk a bit or ride a bus. My parent's neighborhood these days is choked with idiot helicopter parents that just HAVE to drive their special snowflake to school and pick them up. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:30:13 AM EDT
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Hmm. So they should fine the company he works for being early and not the guy. I am sure he was doing what his boss told him to do. If your boss tells you to drive to a customer site at 100mph and you do it and get caught, is it your fault you violated the law or your bosses? The decision is yours, and you should pay the price. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:34:50 AM EDT
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So is he responsible for his own actions or not? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would expect to be paid VERY well for my jail time if the company was at fault. You would likely need to adjust your expectation. I bet you find you have no job after you are released. So is he responsible for his own actions or not? The company is responsible for the setting the expectations and route, and most likely the times of pickup. Those in charge of that process need to do so within the law. I would not expect a trash truck driver to personally know all the local covenants, restrictions, and rules surrounding each town. If THAT driver was cited previously for this then my opinion would be different. But to jail him because the company was previously cited is not even close to morally correct. It's no different than arresting a construction worker personally because his contracting company failed to secure the correct permits and he happened to be swinging the hammer when the cops walked in. And he will likely not have a job in 30days either. I don't see a company that refuses to operate withing the law giong out of it's way to hold open a job for a trash truck driver. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:36:54 AM EDT
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The 3rd party who was directly breaking the rules while working for a company that had previously been warned and fined for violations of those rules. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The company he worked for had, however. He's a representative of the company. Oh for fuck sake. "I'm going to jail your child for your refusal to comply with my rules because he represents your family" Yeah, totally the same thing. Yeah, totally the same thing. The person in charge of breaking the rule is not punished, a third party is chosen because it's expedient. The 3rd party who was directly breaking the rules while working for a company that had previously been warned and fined for violations of those rules. So if JEDunn flouts city laws and sends a new carpenter in to start working at 6AM, you arrest that fucker and send him to jail? You can't be fucking serious. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:38:31 AM EDT
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So if JEDunn flouts city laws and sends a new carpenter in to start working at 6AM, you arrest that fucker and send him to jail? You can't be fucking serious. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, totally the same thing. Yeah, totally the same thing. The person in charge of breaking the rule is not punished, a third party is chosen because it's expedient. The 3rd party who was directly breaking the rules while working for a company that had previously been warned and fined for violations of those rules. So if JEDunn flouts city laws and sends a new carpenter in to start working at 6AM, you arrest that fucker and send him to jail? You can't be fucking serious. The city's already warned, fined, and taken steps against JEDunn about starting before 6AM on city work? Yes. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:39:58 AM EDT
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If your boss asked you to break the law, should you? The story does not say whether he did because he was told to or not anyways. What it does say, implicates that he plead guilty.
If anything, the person to blame is the judge, hes the one who handed out the 30 day sentence. You're boss tells you to get out the new site this week at 6AM and start framing the walls. Do you? Do you hit the Lexus/Nexus database to find out if all the proper permits, regs, ordinances are being followed? Get real. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:40:12 AM EDT
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So does this mean he can no longer exercise his 2A rights?
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:44:24 AM EDT
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Sandy Springs was recently incorporated. Guess solicitor has nothing better to do.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:44:50 AM EDT
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If your boss tells you to drive to a customer site at 100mph and you do it and get caught, is it your fault you violated the law or your bosses? The decision is yours, and you should pay the price. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hmm. So they should fine the company he works for being early and not the guy. I am sure he was doing what his boss told him to do. If your boss tells you to drive to a customer site at 100mph and you do it and get caught, is it your fault you violated the law or your bosses? The decision is yours, and you should pay the price. Decision implies you know the law is being broken. Not one of you people here knows for certain that every element of your employment activity follows federal, state, county, city, and township laws. You're example does not apply, If my boss asks me to kill the bookkeeper I know damn well that is illegal. If my boss asks me to store the books on Server A instead of Server B, which turns out not to have the required backup and audit history settings in violation of the law, that is not something anyone reasonably expects the secretary to know. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:46:00 AM EDT
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The city's already warned, fined, and taken steps against JEDunn about starting before 6AM on city work? Yes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, totally the same thing. Yeah, totally the same thing. The person in charge of breaking the rule is not punished, a third party is chosen because it's expedient. The 3rd party who was directly breaking the rules while working for a company that had previously been warned and fined for violations of those rules. So if JEDunn flouts city laws and sends a new carpenter in to start working at 6AM, you arrest that fucker and send him to jail? You can't be fucking serious. The city's already warned, fined, and taken steps against JEDunn about starting before 6AM on city work? Yes. You are unbelievable. That is some seriously jacked up sense of legal justice. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:47:14 AM EDT
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Did you all miss this gem? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Riley doesn't apologize for locking up sanitation workers. "Fines don't seem to work,” Riley said. "The only thing that seems to stop the activity is actually going to jail.”
Riley says 911 lights up when trash haulers come before 7 a.m. Did you all miss this gem? Nope, what is even more shocking than that is the fact that so many people on here are surprised by it. A small sampling of shit people called 911 for the first year or so I helped dispatch back in 200-2001: The coyotes are howling make them be quiet. The water isn't working. My water heater isn't working. My kid won't do his/her homework. My kid won't clean his room. My car won't start. The neighbors are riding their dirt bikes. At 10 am on a Saturday. On the dirtbike track on their five acres. That had been there for years before my house was built let alone bought by me. There is a kid dressed like a ninja walking around with what looks like a sword strapped to his back. At 6pm on October 31st. My pipes froze. You want to know why the mythical officer friendly of years gone by is dead? Your neighbors fucking killed him with stupid. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:47:19 AM EDT
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You are unbelievable. That is some seriously jacked up sense of legal justice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The 3rd party who was directly breaking the rules while working for a company that had previously been warned and fined for violations of those rules. So if JEDunn flouts city laws and sends a new carpenter in to start working at 6AM, you arrest that fucker and send him to jail? You can't be fucking serious. The city's already warned, fined, and taken steps against JEDunn about starting before 6AM on city work? Yes. You are unbelievable. That is some seriously jacked up sense of legal justice. Ok. 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:47:28 AM EDT
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My neighborhood must be the first stop on their run.
I've heard them as early as 4:30 am. Doesn't bother me. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:51:23 AM EDT
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The solution is to fire them as a "customer". Let them get their trash to the landfill. This. No trash would be picked up at prosecutor's house and office, courthouse, etc. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:53:48 AM EDT
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There is so much bullshit in the story. They must want a fantasy world. You put your trash in the bin when you go to work and when you come home, MAGIC, it's gone!!
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:54:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Make your fucking kids walk. It's just snow. It won't kill them. When dad was stationed at Ramstien AFB in Germany, we lived on base, in one of the farthest buildings from the school. There were no busses, and we got no rides from our 'rents. A couple miles walk, rain, sleet or snow. Shit, I was kids, I had FUN in the snow. We also had to walk home for lunch every fucking day. Snow? Big. Fucking. Deal. I seriously loathe people who think their special snowflakes can't walk a bit or ride a bus. My parent's neighborhood these days is choked with idiot helicopter parents that just HAVE to drive their special snowflake to school and pick them up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This would not fly in the area where I live, particularly during the school year, & especially in the winter. Why? Schools are already running on staggered openings. Elementary, Middle and High school - different start & end times. The streets do not have the capacity to deal with the volume of traffic required to get kids to the dozen or so different schools in our district. Waste disposal ONLY runs before or between school bus runs. For example, either before 6:30am, or after 9:00am but before 2pm. With as much snow as we have on the ground, some of the (public) school buses are dropping kids off at their gates, because if parents drive up to the bus stops and park on the streets, the two lane roads which have been narrowed due to the shit-tons of snow on either side are now not passable by a bus with a vehicle on the other side. So we park on side streets to wait for our kids, or the bus drivers drop the kids off at our gates if it is on their routes. Garbage was picked up at 5am recently, I was already up, no issues with me even if I was sleeping. Plastic containers, bin grabbers mounted on the trucks, driver never leaves the truck. Surprised this happened in GA. Was expecting Queens, or CA. Make your fucking kids walk. It's just snow. It won't kill them. When dad was stationed at Ramstien AFB in Germany, we lived on base, in one of the farthest buildings from the school. There were no busses, and we got no rides from our 'rents. A couple miles walk, rain, sleet or snow. Shit, I was kids, I had FUN in the snow. We also had to walk home for lunch every fucking day. Snow? Big. Fucking. Deal. I seriously loathe people who think their special snowflakes can't walk a bit or ride a bus. My parent's neighborhood these days is choked with idiot helicopter parents that just HAVE to drive their special snowflake to school and pick them up. It's just snow. It won't kill them. Agreed. The snow won't kill them, but the cars that have to drive on compromised roadways most certainly will. If we had sidewalks I'd absolutely make them walk. But since they would have to share what normally is a single lane road in each direction (so total of two lanes) down to 1 1/2 lanes for both directions due to the 2 1/2ft (minimum) snow pile on the sides of the roads - and a higher pile in many places - especially on the corners, I'll stick with my common sense over your common sense. The snow piles are "only" 2 1/2 ft high because a plow drives down the road and "cuts" the snow down to 30", pushing the rest into yards. So what we really have is four feet + of snow on the ground, then a 5ft+ wall of snow at the ends of our property, which steps down to about 30" where the plows cut thru it. I make sure to back into my driveway every day, as it would be stupid or suicidal to back out into the road (no visibility). With the 4-8" of snow expected tonight on top of the 18" we got since last week the post office is considering having us come get our mail, because only a hardy few have been able to liberate their mail boxes. But of course you knew all of this, given that snow in Germany and snow in upstate NY are essentially the same thing, eh? /ml |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:55:08 AM EDT
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There is so much bullshit in the story. They must want a fantasy world. You put your trash in the bin when you go to work and when you come home, MAGIC, it's gone!! If they're showing up before 7, then my trash would still be in the bin when I got back, if I'm putting in when I go to work.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 11:57:23 AM EDT
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Trash coming too early, reminds me of the opening scene from a movie... Where the garbage man has an Uzi. Either Beverly Hills cop or action Jackson.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:04:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Decision implies you know the law is being broken. Not one of you people here knows for certain that every element of your employment activity follows federal, state, county, city, and township laws. You're example does not apply, If my boss asks me to kill the bookkeeper I know damn well that is illegal. If my boss asks me to store the books on Server A instead of Server B, which turns out not to have the required backup and audit history settings in violation of the law, that is not something anyone reasonably expects the secretary to know. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hmm. So they should fine the company he works for being early and not the guy. I am sure he was doing what his boss told him to do. If your boss tells you to drive to a customer site at 100mph and you do it and get caught, is it your fault you violated the law or your bosses? The decision is yours, and you should pay the price. Decision implies you know the law is being broken. Not one of you people here knows for certain that every element of your employment activity follows federal, state, county, city, and township laws. You're example does not apply, If my boss asks me to kill the bookkeeper I know damn well that is illegal. If my boss asks me to store the books on Server A instead of Server B, which turns out not to have the required backup and audit history settings in violation of the law, that is not something anyone reasonably expects the secretary to know.  |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:06:09 PM EDT
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Stupid people. We have the same 'tards that live on base and complain about reveille, retreat and taps.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:08:58 PM EDT
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So does this mean he can no longer exercise his 2A rights? Is it a felony?
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:13:22 PM EDT
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Stupid people. We have the same 'tards that live on base and complain about reveille, retreat and taps. Hey, hey, hey. No singing cadence during PT if you can see base housing. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:20:48 PM EDT
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From what I understand they have a set schedule, if they don't meet the time frames, get their route done and back to the yard, they will be in trouble, it is why they are always in a hurry speeding around etc.... Likely those guys were just trying to get a jump start in order to meet the demand of their schedule. Back in the days when I lived in a town....the city mothers got together and decided no one could put their trash out the night before pickup and had to put it out 2 hours or less before pickup other wise the home owner got fined. Pretty tough on people who worked nights or went to work early in the morning....but the mothers did not care....rules are rules....and fines are fine. In the article the garbageman's lawyer asked why they did not go after the garbage company rather than the man working for them. The DA responded that the company did not start up the truck and then drive it to the scene the man did..... That' s the kind of mentality the poor guy is dealing with.......if the company ordered him to do this and his job is dependent upon compliance with their instructions.....he's caught between a rock and a hard place. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:22:25 PM EDT
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Onion article?
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:23:18 PM EDT
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"Don't pick up that can, citizen!"
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:25:39 PM EDT
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Onion article?
It doesn't say what law he broke? Im confused. "The city of Sandy Springs says he violated an ordinance aimed at keeping workers from waking up residents." They aren't giving you the exact ordinance, but telling you one exists. If you care, it's 46-22c1 |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:28:13 PM EDT
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"The city of Sandy Springs says he violated an ordinance aimed at keeping workers from waking up residents." They aren't giving you the exact ordinance, but telling you one exists. If you care, it's 46-22c1 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It doesn't say what law he broke? Im confused. "The city of Sandy Springs says he violated an ordinance aimed at keeping workers from waking up residents." They aren't giving you the exact ordinance, but telling you one exists. If you care, it's 46-22c1 Still, WTF?????????? 
How does a "City Solicitor" have to power to press charges? He is not a prosecutor or Mayor or a Cop...... |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:31:50 PM EDT
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The article said that: - the trash companies had been fined previously. The courts can sock it to them! - this garbageman had never been in trouble for this before. Why jail him? It was his employer that was fined previously, not him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like the people in that area have spoken and don't want their trash picked up at an early hour. I am good with the jailing. Great counterpoint, I totally see where I may have been wrong.
Make noise in someone's neighborhood, receive complaints from residents, continue to make noise in neighborhood because capitalism, get fines levied, still make noise because capitalism, get jail time... Noise hopefully stops and residents live in peace. Failing to see the issue here. Care to make a logical explanation?The article said that the companies have been fined previously. The article said that: - the trash companies had been fined previously. The courts can sock it to them! - this garbageman had never been in trouble for this before. Why jail him? It was his employer that was fined previously, not him. I don't agree with jailing the one guy they happened to grab that day, unless there is more to that story than is being told, which I suspect. But where do you draw the line? You tell them to stop, then you fine them multiple times, and nothing is working... What would your next step be? The residents are fed up, now they are getting results. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:33:11 PM EDT
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I have a hard time believing that people would support the jailing of this man.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:33:54 PM EDT
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I don't agree with jailing the one guy they happened to grab that day, unless there is more to that story than is being told, which I suspect. But where do you draw the line? You tell them to stop, then you fine them multiple times, and nothing is working... What would your next step be? The residents are fed up, now they are getting results. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like the people in that area have spoken and don't want their trash picked up at an early hour. I am good with the jailing. Great counterpoint, I totally see where I may have been wrong.
Make noise in someone's neighborhood, receive complaints from residents, continue to make noise in neighborhood because capitalism, get fines levied, still make noise because capitalism, get jail time... Noise hopefully stops and residents live in peace. Failing to see the issue here. Care to make a logical explanation?The article said that the companies have been fined previously. The article said that: - the trash companies had been fined previously. The courts can sock it to them! - this garbageman had never been in trouble for this before. Why jail him? It was his employer that was fined previously, not him. I don't agree with jailing the one guy they happened to grab that day, unless there is more to that story than is being told, which I suspect. But where do you draw the line? You tell them to stop, then you fine them multiple times, and nothing is working... What would your next step be? The residents are fed up, now they are getting results. End your agreement to service and find another company. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:35:00 PM EDT
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fucking assholes, everyone's gotta complain about something.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:35:26 PM EDT
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Have the whiny fucks come pickup their own garbage.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:39:29 PM EDT
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Great counterpoint, I totally see where I may have been wrong.
Make noise in someone's neighborhood, receive complaints from residents, continue to make noise in neighborhood because capitalism, get fines levied, still make noise because capitalism, get jail time... Noise hopefully stops and residents live in peace. Failing to see the issue here. Care to make a logical explanation?The article said that the companies have been fined previously. The article said that: - the trash companies had been fined previously. The courts can sock it to them! - this garbageman had never been in trouble for this before. Why jail him? It was his employer that was fined previously, not him. I don't agree with jailing the one guy they happened to grab that day, unless there is more to that story than is being told, which I suspect. But where do you draw the line? You tell them to stop, then you fine them multiple times, and nothing is working... What would your next step be? The residents are fed up, now they are getting results. End your agreement to service and find another company. BOOM! Headshot! |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:42:03 PM EDT
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Because the city that contracts with the trash company said it was. Because the people that pay the trash company to pick up trash said it was. Because the several warnings and fines that were given to the trash company said it was. If the trash company doesn't like the conditions set forth by the city then they are free to not service the city. 30 days for picking up trash early? Excessive. 30 days for being stupid and doing the same stupid thing over and over and over and over again after several warnings & fines? Meh, 0 fucks given. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why is it a problem to pick up trash before 7 "? Because the city that contracts with the trash company said it was. Because the people that pay the trash company to pick up trash said it was. Because the several warnings and fines that were given to the trash company said it was. If the trash company doesn't like the conditions set forth by the city then they are free to not service the city. 30 days for picking up trash early? Excessive. 30 days for being stupid and doing the same stupid thing over and over and over and over again after several warnings & fines? Meh, 0 fucks given. Fire the contractor and hire a company that will honor the 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM collection time. Now, the company who bids the job knowing the extra demands on will bid low and then do whatever it wants when they get the job. The government will pat itself on the back for hiring the low bidder, the crybabies will keep calling 911 because the trash pickup makes noise, and the employees will be the ones who suffer for it. What we really need are more ignorant citizens and less honesty in government. Yay! |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:45:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't agree with jailing the one guy they happened to grab that day, unless there is more to that story than is being told, which I suspect. But where do you draw the line? You tell them to stop, then you fine them multiple times, and nothing is working... What would your next step be? The residents are fed up, now they are getting results. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like the people in that area have spoken and don't want their trash picked up at an early hour. I am good with the jailing. Great counterpoint, I totally see where I may have been wrong. Make noise in someone's neighborhood, receive complaints from residents, continue to make noise in neighborhood because capitalism, get fines levied, still make noise because capitalism, get jail time... Noise hopefully stops and residents live in peace. Failing to see the issue here. Care to make a logical explanation?The article said that the companies have been fined previously. The article said that: - the trash companies had been fined previously. The courts can sock it to them! - this garbageman had never been in trouble for this before. Why jail him? It was his employer that was fined previously, not him. I don't agree with jailing the one guy they happened to grab that day, unless there is more to that story than is being told, which I suspect. But where do you draw the line? You tell them to stop, then you fine them multiple times, and nothing is working... What would your next step be? The residents are fed up, now they are getting results. The city should warn/fine the garbagemen first. If the company wasn't responsible, why did the city warn the company? And how about some jail time for the residents that are jamming 911 for garbage truck noise? People that need an ambulance or firefighters wouldn't be able to get through. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:50:27 PM EDT
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Let me make sure I get this right... David Patraeus gives away classified info to his mistress, no jail time. Some poor dude is doing what his boss tells him. He interrupts someone's beauty sleep while trying to make a living and he gets jail time. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Comrad, perhaps you need some re-educating? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:50:48 PM EDT
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mine show up promptly at 7. occasionally they have a newbie running the route but not picking up, and they blast through in a garbage truck doing about 90 mph, at 6am... fuckers.. they should be jaied
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:51:32 PM EDT
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Killdozer.. mine pick up at 0610. Mine gets picked up at 0400 or so. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:53:25 PM EDT
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Picking up trash at 5 AM? Thats a bit early......
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:01:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: The city solicitor says he's tried everything to get sanitation workers to stop coming to communities before 7 a.m. He says he’s tried fining the companies they work for, but it doesn't work; so now he's decided to haul them off to jail. "The solicitor said it's automatic jail time. He didn't want to hear nothing I had to say. I said it's my first time,” sanitation worker Kevin McGill. http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/sanitation-worker-sent-jail-picking-too-early/nkNGB/ https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5a/c5/5f/5ac55f4ec612fc00d886b32893d2c3fa.jpg  |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:01:48 PM EDT
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From what I understand they have a set schedule, if they don't meet the time frames, get their route done and back to the yard, they will be in trouble, it is why they are always in a hurry speeding around etc.... Likely those guys were just trying to get a jump start in order to meet the demand of their schedule. I applied for a job with Waste Management back in the 80's because "everybody knows" that being a garbageman is an awesome job! Back then, the routes were drawn up and paid based on how many hours it "should" take to complete. If you took longer to do it, tough shit - they paid what the route paid. Flat tire, somebody calls in sick for a week leaving you a man short... tough shit. No extra pay for any extra work. If you got the route done in less time, though, it meant less time the truck was on the road burning up fuel and incurring insurance risk. So if you shaved a half hour or an hour off the route time, you would get a bonus. The whole team (usually three guys) would split the bonus. The hell of it was, some routes paid more for relatively less work, and some routes paid less for relatively more work - and all routes were bid by seniority, so it took you years to work your way up to the "good" routes. I respectfully declined their kind offer of employment. |
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