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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:14:04 AM EDT
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I had an 89 shadow es turbo. That car was a damn hoot, especially when I made a makeshift boost controller. As the body was shot I picked up the most grandma worthy 89 Sundance and converted the interior from the auto components with the manual components from the es. With 10 lbs of boost that fucker would put a good challenge to lots of fast cars.
My buddy has a csx-t that we did a 2.4 motor with a Holset HX40 usually running 14 lbs mounted on top of a quick spool valve. HOLY FUCK! That thing is shit your pants fast. On a set of street legal slicks it will spank vetted all day long. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:17:44 AM EDT
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NO FWD CAR CAN TOUCH A TURBO COBALT SS! PEROID. END OF ALL GUESSING AND SUPPOSITION!
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:20:30 AM EDT
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I had a Dodge Daytona "Shelby Z" or some such nonsense; about the most fun you could have on a K-car chassis. At the same time, I happened upon a Dodge Caravan turbo with a floor shifted 5spd and set out to build the ultimate sleeper.
Returned to my love of the Porsche 928 and the FWD cars were forgotten and sold. CSB about the minivan; my lesbo neighbor about beat my door down when she saw the for sale sign in the van, she bought it that day, and I made a new car buddy. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:24:23 AM EDT
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The reason FWD performance American cars are so forgettable is that they suck ass. they could maybe do one thing well at a time.
you could have one that was mildly quick. but it had terrible torque steer, or handled like complete shit because it had a overbearing lump of a engine hanging over the front. They defined 'understeer' or you could have one that handled well, but due to its abysmal engine and weight had terrible acceleration. Probably the best was the Neon ACR, because its light weight ment it could overcome its shitty engine, and they handled OK. still had shitty torque steer. There has never been a performance FWD American car because American manufactures have a terrible idea about how to make a good car.. they think, if you want a small car you must be poor, so you get the cheapest thing they could create, if you want performance car, nothing matters but street light to street light, but the suspension is gonna be made out of marshmellows and the car is going to, amazingly, feel heavier then it actually is, because they believe the heavy feel is also associated with quality. the power steering is going to be over powered and vague, because again, light power steering must mean its good. You can't place them in the same class as cars like the Corrado SLC, GTI, or Acura Integra, civic Si because they were simply out classed in every way. these cars handled better, accelerated faster got better mileage, were safer, more comfortable. pretty much did everything right. sure you could build a fast SRT 4 or that pile of shit supercharged cobalt, which was great if you were under 25 and flipped burgers, but the car was a embarrassing pile of shit for adults to own (so was the civic really). in short, they did everything wrong, or cheaply, or its obvious they are scrambling to catch up. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:32:02 AM EDT
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Define forgotten but on a racetrack if I have to have "domestic front wheel drive" a new Focus ST is the tits. Sucks butt on the street though. I love mine. I haven't had it on a track yet though |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:37:08 AM EDT
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Eagle Talon
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:41:54 AM EDT
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Dodge Omni GLH-S This is the correct answer |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:44:50 AM EDT
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There were a couple of different versions of the Ford EXP in 1985, my dad was working for a tool and die shop that did work for Chrysler and Ford in the 80's so we got a lot of vehicles from both makers over a short period of time.
One EXP (85, I think) had a 2bbl Holley carb and it would smoke the fuel injected versions. We also had a Mustang SVO (RWD) and the EXP was really quick from the start. Later we had a Shelby Charger, a Plymouth Turismo Duster, and a Shadow Turbo. Horrible cheap plastic interiors and no engine longevity but they were peppy as hell. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:47:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOh yes. That bitch had WILD torque steer-having to row the wheel side to side for every gear change on the boost. Nick |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:47:22 AM EDT
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my '98 deville kicks ass.
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:52:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buick/Olds 3.8 series II super charcged or NA, FTW!!!!! Came here to post this. We had three of them in the family at one point. Two were totalled by my can'tdriveworthafuck younger siblings and the trans went out on the last one.  They were about 6 seconds 0-60. Not as fast as I remember.  |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:55:27 AM EDT
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For its day the Dodge shadow was surprisingly quick. IIRC 220HP, 0-60 around low 6's
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:56:28 AM EDT
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Regal GS with the super charged 3.8 This was the sleeper car of the decade. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:57:20 AM EDT
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Eagle Talon Plymouth Laser both actually Mitsubishis. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 9:57:28 AM EDT
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Gen 1 Taurus SHO.
3.0 Yamaha V6 Fully forged internals from factory Distributorless engine design with a coil per bank all back in 1988 8K+ redline 5 speed manual One of the best looking modern engines |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:00:35 AM EDT
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1966 Oldsmobile Toronado The Oldsmobile Toronado is a personal luxury car produced by the Oldsmobile division of General Motors from 1966 to 1992. Designed to compete with the Ford Thunderbird and GM's own Buick Riviera, the Toronado is historically significant as the first U.S.-produced front-wheel drive automobile since the demise of the Cord in 1937. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Toronado http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/66Toronado.jpg/1024px-66Toronado.jpg Had a high school buddy that drove a 1969 Tornado with a 455ci V8 in it. We had it to 140 mph on a long stretch of Nevada highway. FWD burnouts in the HS parking lot were fun. It's a wonder we didn't kill ourselves in that car. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:00:37 AM EDT
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A couple of the previously mentioned cars (EXP, Citation, Impulse) weren't even moderately fast/performance vehicles. They were 10 sec 0-60 and 16-18 second 1/4 mile cars.
Quick wrong wheel drive cars I think of are the Dodge turbo cars of the 80's (GLH,GLH-S,Shadow CSX, Daytona Shelby Z),the Diamond star turbo cars of the 90's (Talon, Eclipse,Laser), the SHO, and the Grand Prix GTP/Regal GS. There are many more as you get in the 2000's but you get the idea. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:00:53 AM EDT
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double tap
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:03:18 AM EDT
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Taurus SHO 6 cylinder stick would have me reaching for my wallet now.
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:09:30 AM EDT
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Gen 1 Taurus SHO. 3.0 Yamaha V6 Fully forged internals from factory Distributorless engine design with a coil per bank all back in 1988 8K+ redline 5 speed manual One of the best looking modern engines Yamaha is pretty good at building engines. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:13:25 AM EDT
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Yamaha is pretty good at building engines. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gen 1 Taurus SHO. 3.0 Yamaha V6 Fully forged internals from factory Distributorless engine design with a coil per bank all back in 1988 8K+ redline 5 speed manual One of the best looking modern engines Yamaha is pretty good at building engines. Yup. Do want. Saw an automatic last year. I'm sure that Cash for Clunkers (FHBO) killed a lot of good SHOs. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:15:47 AM EDT
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My buddy had a grand prix supercharged that was pretty damn fast.
The Eagle Talon Tsi(I think?) was a beast as well. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:18:42 AM EDT
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GM put that 5.3L V8 in A LOT more FWD cars than I thought.
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:19:51 AM EDT
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Chevy Citation !!
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:21:02 AM EDT
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May produce wood.......
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:26:10 AM EDT
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1966 Oldsmobile Toronado The Oldsmobile Toronado is a personal luxury car produced by the Oldsmobile division of General Motors from 1966 to 1992. Designed to compete with the Ford Thunderbird and GM's own Buick Riviera, the Toronado is historically significant as the first U.S.-produced front-wheel drive automobile since the demise of the Cord in 1937. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Toronado http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/66Toronado.jpg/1024px-66Toronado.jpg drool..... 
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:27:59 AM EDT
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Taurus SHO. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:28:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted:
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado The Oldsmobile Toronado is a personal luxury car produced by the Oldsmobile division of General Motors from 1966 to 1992. Designed to compete with the Ford Thunderbird and GM's own Buick Riviera, the Toronado is historically significant as the first U.S.-produced front-wheel drive automobile since the demise of the Cord in 1937. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Toronado http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/66Toronado.jpg/1024px-66Toronado.jpg And after you wrecked one, then you could yank the 455 off the transaxle & put it in a Firebird. 
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:28:47 AM EDT
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Cobalt SS is supposed to be pretty quick. This and the HHR SS are both fast. 
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:31:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dodge/Chrysler put a turbo in a bunch of their FWD cars in the 90's mid 80's and on. The Dodge Daytona Turbo/Chrysler Laser Turbo were some pretty cool and advanced vehicles. http://www.allpar.com/model/daytona.html http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2006/02/01/hmn_feature15.html Eagle Talon TSi was pretty cool also. http://www.allpar.com/model/eagle-talon.html Granted there was a lot of Mitsubishi involvement in these vehicles. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:32:32 AM EDT
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2004-2005 Dodge Neon SRT4 with a limited slip diff. These cars can put down some serious hp with a few mods. They are no slouch in stock form either.
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:34:53 AM EDT
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Dodge Omni GLH-S GoesLikeHell-Some more
Friend of mine had one and that little can on wheels would move. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:35:17 AM EDT
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Dodge Stealth twin turbo? Wasn't that a re-branded mitsubishi? |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:42:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't that a re-branded mitsubishi? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dodge Stealth twin turbo? Wasn't that a re-branded mitsubishi? Twin to the 3000GT |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:42:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eagle Talon Plymouth Laser Yup That's what we drove around in....that and the Mitsubishi Eclipse turbo They'd do about 145 stock and smoke just about anything else on the road  |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:44:20 AM EDT
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my '98 deville kicks ass. clown Cadillacs are no joke. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:48:50 AM EDT
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both actually Mitsubishis. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Eagle Talon Plymouth Laser both actually Mitsubishis. Quoted:
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Dodge Stealth twin turbo? Wasn't that a re-branded mitsubishi? Phooey! DSM's were built in Illinois. If you wanna break balls then the Taurus SHO with the Yamaha motor is also DQ'd. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:49:41 AM EDT
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Any of the 80's Mopar 4 cyl turbo vehicles.
The supercharged 3.8L GM's were impressive 5.3L Impala and Monte Carlo SS Neon SRT-4 Olds Aurora Northstar Caddies edit: I forgot about the older v6 and v8 Taurus SHO's. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:49:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado The Oldsmobile Toronado is a personal luxury car produced by the Oldsmobile division of General Motors from 1966 to 1992. Designed to compete with the Ford Thunderbird and GM's own Buick Riviera, the Toronado is historically significant as the first U.S.-produced front-wheel drive automobile since the demise of the Cord in 1937. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Toronado http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/66Toronado.jpg/1024px-66Toronado.jpg My mom had one. Tromp it on a yellow light and it would light the tires through the intersection and she would go oops. It likes to go 95 on the interstate. Dad almost lost his license on points. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:50:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Twin to the 3000GT Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dodge Stealth twin turbo? Wasn't that a re-branded mitsubishi? Twin to the 3000GT The turbo versions were AWD though. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 10:51:29 AM EDT
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1969 GT 455/400hp My mom had one. Tromp it on a yellow light and it would light the tires through the intersection and she would go oops. It likes to go 95 on the interstate. Dad almost lost his license on points. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1966 Oldsmobile Toronado The Oldsmobile Toronado is a personal luxury car produced by the Oldsmobile division of General Motors from 1966 to 1992. Designed to compete with the Ford Thunderbird and GM's own Buick Riviera, the Toronado is historically significant as the first U.S.-produced front-wheel drive automobile since the demise of the Cord in 1937. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Toronado http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/66Toronado.jpg/1024px-66Toronado.jpg My mom had one. Tromp it on a yellow light and it would light the tires through the intersection and she would go oops. It likes to go 95 on the interstate. Dad almost lost his license on points. 400hp back then was about 200hp right?
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:00:40 AM EDT
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Taurus SHO
Neon SRT-4 Some of the older Olds' were pretty quick back in high school. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:01:51 AM EDT
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Also, the Maxima and Altima with the big engines were/are DAMN quick
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:07:30 AM EDT
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This was the king of "Torque Steering" ..gaaaahhhhh!!! It won't turrrnnnn!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Taurus SHO. This was the king of "Torque Steering" ..gaaaahhhhh!!! It won't turrrnnnn!!! Every car I owned was RWD, so when I took my aunt's SHO to get lunch one day, I had a fun surprise when I gave it the boot trying to turn out of the lot into traffic.
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:10:21 AM EDT
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1966 Oldsmobile Toronado The Oldsmobile Toronado is a personal luxury car produced by the Oldsmobile division of General Motors from 1966 to 1992. Designed to compete with the Ford Thunderbird and GM's own Buick Riviera, the Toronado is historically significant as the first U.S.-produced front-wheel drive automobile since the demise of the Cord in 1937. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Toronado http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/66Toronado.jpg/1024px-66Toronado.jpg Came to post that as well. My parents had a '66 in the early 70's. Same color as the pic you show. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:12:38 AM EDT
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Can't be sure about the Tornado, but my Dad had a then new 1975 Eldorado and it was RWD with a 520 cubic inch behemoth under the hood.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The late 60's-early 70's olds tornado and cadillac eldorados..385 hp and 475 ft lbs of torque..and they were tanks..... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/66Toronado.jpg http://atxcarpics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/yellow-eldorado-front-quarter-view-convertible.jpg The '75 Eldo was front wheel drive only, and the 8.2 litre (500ci) V8 was the only engine available. |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:14:52 AM EDT
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I had an 85 Shelby Charger with the 2.2 turbo. Peppy.. when it ran
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Dodge Omni GLH-S I had an 85 Shelby Charger with the 2.2 turbo. Peppy.. when it ran
http://assets.hemmings.com/story_image/122497-500-0.jpg?rev=1 we melted the motor in one of these going from NJ to FL, right about 1/2 way thru Georgia |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:15:26 AM EDT
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A king of low production Dodge FWD cars was the 1992 Daytona IROC r/t. It came with a 224 HP turbo 16 valve engine that set its 0-60 time in the sub 6 second class with the !/4 mile coming in just under 14 seconds. The biggest problem was that the cylinder head was prone to cam failures and the company(Lotus) that made them had no spare parts after the original production run was completed. The was a guy in Wilkes Barre that had one in the dealers garage for over 2 years waiting for parts replacement under warranty... I have no idea whether he ever got the car back from the dealer
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:17:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 400hp back then was about 200hp right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado The Oldsmobile Toronado is a personal luxury car produced by the Oldsmobile division of General Motors from 1966 to 1992. Designed to compete with the Ford Thunderbird and GM's own Buick Riviera, the Toronado is historically significant as the first U.S.-produced front-wheel drive automobile since the demise of the Cord in 1937. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Toronado http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/66Toronado.jpg/1024px-66Toronado.jpg My mom had one. Tromp it on a yellow light and it would light the tires through the intersection and she would go oops. It likes to go 95 on the interstate. Dad almost lost his license on points. 400hp back then was about 200hp right? |
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Posted: 4/27/2015 11:18:20 AM EDT
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Srt4
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