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Posted: 11/8/2013 10:30:08 AM EDT
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Nothing new for that site...
ETA...I don't really see Frank accepting the terms F&D win = free industry membership for life on Snipershide.com website, with full moderator privileges.
Frank Galli win = free FD308 rifle, 18" or 22" model. View Quote Really? Lifetime industry member? |
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I got tired of it over there, which is a shame because there are some guys with lots of experience that post there.
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Shit just got real.......need to sell rides on a drama lama..
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Is there no end to the supply of petulant, feet-stamping man-children in the firearms community?
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Nothing new for that site... ETA...I don't really see Frank accepting the terms Really? Lifetime industry member? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Nothing new for that site... ETA...I don't really see Frank accepting the terms F&D win = free industry membership for life on Snipershide.com website, with full moderator privileges.
Frank Galli win = free FD308 rifle, 18" or 22" model. Really? Lifetime industry member? Yeah a $3000 rifle =! lifetime industry partner status. |
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc.
There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. |
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So, what did they do to get banned from even being mentioned there? Did they send a bunch of shills with 2 posts?
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc. There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. View Quote IIRC it's because the owner and employees of FD kept creating accounts to do nothing more than boost his own product |
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That forum is the place to be for precision rifle dialog as well as optics, long range shooting and, gear. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I got tired of it over there, which is a shame because there are some guys with lots of experience that post there. That forum is the place to be for precision rifle dialog as well as optics, long range shooting and, gear. Yep. Lots of good info over there and LL doesn't suffer fools gladly. Chris |
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I also forgot to mention that it's probably the best place to stay abreast of what local, State, and National matches are coming up, as well as some of the coolest group buys.
For example, there is an awesome group buy going on right now for Thunderbeast Titanium suppressors. |
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I saw some boobies there and freaked out. Ran back to arfcom.
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc. There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. View Quote I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? |
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Yeah a $3000 rifle =! lifetime industry partner status. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nothing new for that site... ETA...I don't really see Frank accepting the terms F&D win = free industry membership for life on Snipershide.com website, with full moderator privileges.
Frank Galli win = free FD308 rifle, 18" or 22" model. Really? Lifetime industry member? Yeah a $3000 rifle =! lifetime industry partner status. The cheapest industry partner status on arfcom is more than that per year |
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I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc. There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? |
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I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc. There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? Dude you aren't helping your product at all. |
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I also forgot to mention that it's probably the best place to stay abreast of what local, State, and National matches are coming up, as well as some of the coolest group buys. For example, there is an awesome group buy going on right now for Thunderbeast Titanium suppressors. View Quote Yep, a group buy there is how I got my TBAC a year ago. I've also enjoyed reading about the 6.5 SAUM, which will be my next rifle caliber. |
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Yep, a group buy there is how I got my TBAC there a year ago. I've also enjoyed reading about the 6.5 SAUM, which will be my next rifle caliber. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I also forgot to mention that it's probably the best place to stay abreast of what local, State, and National matches are coming up, as well as some of the coolest group buys. For example, there is an awesome group buy going on right now for Thunderbeast Titanium suppressors. Yep, a group buy there is how I got my TBAC there a year ago. I've also enjoyed reading about the 6.5 SAUM, which will be my next rifle caliber. Supersonic almost out to mile. What's not to like? :-) |
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Yep, a group buy there is how I got my TBAC there a year ago. I've also enjoyed reading about the 6.5 SAUM, which will be my next rifle caliber. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I also forgot to mention that it's probably the best place to stay abreast of what local, State, and National matches are coming up, as well as some of the coolest group buys. For example, there is an awesome group buy going on right now for Thunderbeast Titanium suppressors. Yep, a group buy there is how I got my TBAC there a year ago. I've also enjoyed reading about the 6.5 SAUM, which will be my next rifle caliber. I've been following that 6.5 SAUM GAP thread as well. Freaking awesome. I own a .260 Rem AR10 that GA Precision built for me before the GAP-10 was around. It's a consistent .4 - .6 MOA rifle, for 5rd groups. Supersonic almost out to mile. What's not to like? :-) At Wyoming altitudes, the 6.5 SAUM is supersonic well past a mile. Heck, my .260 Remington gas gun is supersonic at a mile with the 130gr VLD fired at 2850fps. The SAUM pushes it to 3250fps at lower pressure. |
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I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc. There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? All of a sudden I understand Frank's position |
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IIRC it's because the owner and employees of FD kept creating accounts to do nothing more than boost his own product View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc. There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. IIRC it's because the owner and employees of FD kept creating accounts to do nothing more than boost his own product False. We have has at least 3 customers each try to post positive comments and reviews which got deleted. No telling how many others were deleted over the past months. All because Frank was scared from a few of his members (two of which are now involved in a lawsuit) getting out of control with the personal bashing. I can take negativity about me or my products, what I wont accept is flat out lies and unjustified disparaging behavior. For Frank to promote the bashing by leaving up negative posts and removing positive posts is simply unacceptable. Especially since I was paying him $3000 a year to be his customer and support his operation. Much more than he ever did for F&D. |
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I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc. There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? So why is ARF being dragged into a precision purse swinging contest? |
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False. We have has at least 3 customers each try to post positive comments and reviews which got deleted. No telling how many others were deleted over the past months. All because Frank was scared from a few of his members (two of which are now involved in a lawsuit) getting out of control with the personal bashing. I can take negativity about me or my products, what I wont accept is flat out lies and unjustified disparaging behavior. For Frank to promote the bashing by leaving up negative posts and removing positive posts is simply unacceptable. Especially since I was paying him $3000 a year to be his customer and support his operation. Much more than he ever did for F&D. View Quote Start your own 'world famous' website then and run it the way you want. I don't know if you've lurked here for a while, or not, but this might not go the way you, or your company, wants it to go. Just sayin'. Chris |
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False. We have has at least 3 customers each try to post positive comments and reviews which got deleted. No telling how many others were deleted over the past months. All because Frank was scared from a few of his members (two of which are now involved in a lawsuit) getting out of control with the personal bashing. I can take negativity about me or my products, what I wont accept is flat out lies and unjustified disparaging behavior. For Frank to promote the bashing by leaving up negative posts and removing positive posts is simply unacceptable. Especially since I was paying him $3000 a year to be his customer and support his operation. Much more than he ever did for F&D. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc. There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. IIRC it's because the owner and employees of FD kept creating accounts to do nothing more than boost his own product False. We have has at least 3 customers each try to post positive comments and reviews which got deleted. No telling how many others were deleted over the past months. All because Frank was scared from a few of his members (two of which are now involved in a lawsuit) getting out of control with the personal bashing. I can take negativity about me or my products, what I wont accept is flat out lies and unjustified disparaging behavior. For Frank to promote the bashing by leaving up negative posts and removing positive posts is simply unacceptable. Especially since I was paying him $3000 a year to be his customer and support his operation. Much more than he ever did for F&D. So you decide to come here and post as a shill? You aren't helping your business pal. I'd never heard of you until today, and based on this thread alone I'll pass on your products. |
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Dude you aren't helping your product at all. View Quote The product doesn't need help. We are perfectly happy with the position F&D is in with the overall marketplace. Though everyone understandably wants their rifles delivered faster, we have happy customers and many more who want to be customers when rifles are available to be shipped. We are just try to have a little fun here and settle some dust. |
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The product doesn't need help. We are perfectly happy with the position F&D is in with the overall marketplace. Though everyone understandably wants their rifles delivered faster, we have happy customers and many more who want to be customers when rifles are available to be shipped. We are just try to have a little fun here and settle some dust. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dude you aren't helping your product at all. The product doesn't need help. We are perfectly happy with the position F&D is in with the overall marketplace. Though everyone understandably wants their rifles delivered faster, we have happy customers and many more who want to be customers when rifles are available to be shipped. We are just try to have a little fun here and settle some dust. Look, I'm sure your product is good it's just that by making a scene like this, it can only go south for you. |
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Who is shooting for F and D?
butthurt lawsuits over forum purse swingings are still purse swingings
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So you decide to come here and post as a shill? You aren't helping your business pal. I'd never heard of you until today, and based on this thread alone I'll pass on your products. View Quote And? You buy a persons product based on how low a producer bows to you and others around you? If that's the case I bet you have a household full of crappy products. You think you will determine whether F&D succeeds or not? You have no effect. Because customers love the product I make and I treat them well. |
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I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sniper's Hide is one of the main places people go for information related to precision rifles, optics, loads, wildcats, etc. There is a dedicated thread to Semi-Auto rifles, and I have noticed that F&D Defense is not welcome there for some reason that I am not privy to. Not sure challenging a dedicated Marine Sniper (who does precision rifle training as his primary focus in life) to a shoot-off is such a great idea, especially if he brings a GAP-10, and you bring an op-rod driven gasser. I have never been through any sort of sniper training, never been to a match, and have a 20/60 shooting eye. I guarantee you at least one group will be under .4" I'm not saying I will win, but I do have about 15,000 precision rounds down many of my and others gas-guns over the past few years. Moreover, I have shot with several marine snipers, and they generally shoot no better than the next guy. What they do better is scope adjustments, reading wind, and judging distance. I have yet to see any precision groups Frank claims to be capable of. As he will not participate in his own forums standardized shootouts. He can bring his GAP10 or whatever else he can cobble up. If he shoots better than me with a semi-308, it wont be by much; and I will gladly and humbly shake his hand and provide him the winnings. For him its pretty much a free rifle and charity donation, right? So whats the big fuss? In. I've been getting curious about precision gas guns anyways. |
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Look, I'm sure your product is good it's just that by making a scene like this, it can only go south for you. View Quote Ive had people telling me that for 6 years now since I started in my garage with a small mill, and F&D has only grown exponentially. I still don't see a problem. Frank wanted a shootout, and I'm here to give it to him. |
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And? You buy a persons product based on how low a producer bows to you and others around you? If that's the case I bet you have a household full of crappy products. You think you will determine whether F&D succeeds or not? You have no effect. Because customers love the product I make and I treat them well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So you decide to come here and post as a shill? You aren't helping your business pal. I'd never heard of you until today, and based on this thread alone I'll pass on your products. And? You buy a persons product based on how low a producer bows to you and others around you? If that's the case I bet you have a household full of crappy products. You think you will determine whether F&D succeeds or not? You have no effect. Because customers love the product I make and I treat them well. QFP, and your last sentence and third and fourth sentences are quite contradictory. |
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Jacobdw asked a relevant question earlier in this thread. Why is arfcom being drug into this debate?
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The product doesn't need help. We are perfectly happy with the position F&D is in with the overall marketplace. Though everyone understandably wants their rifles delivered faster, we have happy customers and many more who want to be customers when rifles are available to be shipped. We are just try to have a little fun here and settle some dust. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dude you aren't helping your product at all. The product doesn't need help. We are perfectly happy with the position F&D is in with the overall marketplace. Though everyone understandably wants their rifles delivered faster, we have happy customers and many more who want to be customers when rifles are available to be shipped. We are just try to have a little fun here and settle some dust. Well, in just five posts you have guaranteed that I will never buy from you. |
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