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Posted: 3/19/2016 5:49:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 5:54:45 PM EDT
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Oh look! apparently it's fine to call other members <Removed - T7> now, when we don't agree with them! Really bolsters your argument Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love how the cops think their video and text overlay makes them look all authoritarian, the reality is it screams "We are a bunch of whiny bitch pussies!"  Really bolsters your argument I had another member wish death on me last week and not a fucking thing happened to him. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:04:54 PM EDT
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You mean my employer's car? Yeah cops give such a shit about police cars  this was about bruised egos, not scratched paint. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Beyond retarded. And some cops wonder why people hate them. That was stupid. Which, throwing shit at a car or arresting someone for throwing shit at a car? Where's your car? Can I throw shit at it without you calling the police? this was about bruised egos, not scratched paint. Property damage and poor behavior only escalate when they go unchallenged. You can use the Baltimore Mentality if you want, but I think we already know how that turns out. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:12:37 PM EDT
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So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite No shouldn't be an arrest warrant. Should be an pc arrest. But then when people choose to hide in the crowd and throw stuff at police cars, kind of hard to arrest them. Do you think he went and got his football back? But he thought enough of what he did and evidently saw no problems with it to post it on social media. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:14:36 PM EDT
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So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite as much as I hate to say this - its a police car. Not a normal car. You dont throw shit at a police car. I mean WTFBBQ - this is grade school shit. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:22:57 PM EDT
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(a)(1) HARASSMENT. A person commits the crime of harassment if, with intent to harass, annoy, or alarm another person, he or she either: a. Strikes, shoves, kicks, or otherwise touches a person or subjects him or her to physical contact. b. Directs abusive or obscene language or makes an obscene gesture towards another person. (2) For purposes of this section, harassment shall include a threat, verbal or nonverbal, made with the intent to carry out the threat, that would cause a reasonable person who is the target of the threat to fear for his or her safety. That is what they got a warrant for? a) He didn't strike a cop. b) 1st amendment bitches. FTP is protected speech. Striking the car is tantamount to an assault on the officer driving. CASE LAW, BITCH! |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:30:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: as much as I hate to say this - its a police car. Not a normal car. You dont throw shit at a police car. I mean WTFBBQ - this is grade school shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite as much as I hate to say this - its a police car. Not a normal car. You dont throw shit at a police car. I mean WTFBBQ - this is grade school shit. You don't throw shit at ANY car. Just because it's a cop car should not grant special protection. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:37:26 PM EDT
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From what I'm told it has held up to challenges so far. County ordinances are often passed in response to certain conditions created by unusual circumstances. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And you could run the risk of going to jail in at least one county in Florida. For merely saying or using the word "fuck" in a manner that doesn't constitute "fighting words?" I hope they have a good litigation claim reserve or insurance policy. From what I'm told it has held up to challenges so far. County ordinances are often passed in response to certain conditions created by unusual circumstances. "From what I'm told"... AKA "I don't know." |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:37:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:39:22 PM EDT
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I would like to see some people here come work these crowds for four to six weeks straight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? I would like to see some people here come work these crowds for four to six weeks straight. I guess if you can't hack it you should remember that you volunteered for the job. I'm sure working under stress is a requirement for the position, is it not? |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:43:07 PM EDT
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So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite I am not a judge so I can't issue an arrest warrant but I've arrested way more people for damaging other people's property than I have City property. Probably at least a 1-10 ratio. So yes, if I witnessed someone throwing a football into the side of a BMW after he said Fuck BMW drivers I would attempt to locate the BMW owner and then arrest the football thrower. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:45:53 PM EDT
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"From what I'm told"... AKA "I don't know." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And you could run the risk of going to jail in at least one county in Florida. For merely saying or using the word "fuck" in a manner that doesn't constitute "fighting words?" I hope they have a good litigation claim reserve or insurance policy. From what I'm told it has held up to challenges so far. County ordinances are often passed in response to certain conditions created by unusual circumstances. "From what I'm told"... AKA "I don't know." I know, do you? |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 6:52:39 PM EDT
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? You assert that these things would happen, yet days passed between a thousand people seeing the act and the charges being brought and none of your assertions came to fruition. It was allowed to happen, and it was only luck and social media that solved the heinous crime. It's hilarious that you think you have to explain it to me slowly when you failed to comprehend that your assertion was disproven before you ever typed a word about it professor. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 7:06:29 PM EDT
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I guess if you can't hack it you should remember that you volunteered for the job. I'm sure working under stress is a requirement for the position, is it not? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? I would like to see some people here come work these crowds for four to six weeks straight. I guess if you can't hack it you should remember that you volunteered for the job. I'm sure working under stress is a requirement for the position, is it not? I've hacked it for 23 years, it has gradually gotten worse over the years. Late 90's early 2000's we still worked it with 3 zone cars and a supervisor, routine shift. The last few years, zone cars were doubled at night, Additional units to work traffic, additional units to work problem areas, mutual aid agencies to bolster those numbers. Hence new ordinances being passed. Curious have you been to a major spring break location in the last couple of years and seen the activity we are talking about here? |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 7:19:07 PM EDT
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You assert that these things would happen, yet days passed between a thousand people seeing the act and the charges being brought and none of your assertions came to fruition. It was allowed to happen, and it was only luck and social media that solved the heinous crime. It's hilarious that you think you have to explain it to me slowly when you failed to comprehend that your assertion was disproven before you ever typed a word about it professor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? You assert that these things would happen, yet days passed between a thousand people seeing the act and the charges being brought and none of your assertions came to fruition. It was allowed to happen, and it was only luck and social media that solved the heinous crime. It's hilarious that you think you have to explain it to me slowly when you failed to comprehend that your assertion was disproven before you ever typed a word about it professor. Lol Either you are a lot dumber than I thought or youre just trying to be all edgy and cool and argue just Because you don't like police officers. Quick question for you, do you feel that the police ignoring BLM actions have done anything other than enable the protesters? Answer honestly and then we can continue this. Well? |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 7:50:56 PM EDT
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No, his state is right. See B.E.S. v. State, 629 So.2d 761 (Ala.Ct.App., 1993). He, however, is wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. The word "fuck" used in a public setting is prosecutable under disorderly conduct in AL. Thanks for playing, don't let the doorknob hit you on the way out. Your state is wrong. No, his state is right. See B.E.S. v. State, 629 So.2d 761 (Ala.Ct.App., 1993). He, however, is wrong. From your link. 
Considering the circumstances under which these statements were made, including the fact that the statements were made during a private quarrel in the residence occupied by both the speaker and the addressee, we do not think the appellant's statements rise to the level of "fighting words." We recognize, however, that there are circumstances under which similar comments could be construed as fighting words. See State v. James M., 111 N.M. 473, 806 P.2d 1063, 1066 (App.1990) (juvenile defendant's speech amounted to fighting words where he and a civilian were arguing on a public sidewalk; defendant "was flailing his arms" and was repeatedly yelling at civilian, "[f]uck you" and "[f]uck you, you don't know who I am"; "[b]oth parties were upset"; and "four or five people had gathered to watch"), cert. denied, 111 N.M. 529, 807 P.2d 227 (1991). Those *766 circumstances simply do not exist in the present case. Which is the basic example I gave. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 7:52:23 PM EDT
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If they weren't encouraged and invited with open arms, you wouldn't have beaches covered in yankee. Spring break is retarded stupidity, and if you encourage spring breakers you get what you deserve. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who goes to Alabama for Spring break? Lol. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile A fucking shit ton of yankees. Our highways are clogged from now till Labor Day with yanks coming down here. Friday and Sunday the main highways are crawling. I take back roads to get around. If they weren't encouraged and invited with open arms, you wouldn't have beaches covered in yankee. Spring break is retarded stupidity, and if you encourage spring breakers you get what you deserve. Not me. I hate it. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 7:55:07 PM EDT
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So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite It would be up to the victim seek an arrest warrant. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 8:10:03 PM EDT
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(a)(1) HARASSMENT. A person commits the crime of harassment if, with intent to harass, annoy, or alarm another person, he or she either: a. Strikes, shoves, kicks, or otherwise touches a person or subjects him or her to physical contact. b. Directs abusive or obscene language or makes an obscene gesture towards another person. (2) For purposes of this section, harassment shall include a threat, verbal or nonverbal, made with the intent to carry out the threat, that would cause a reasonable person who is the target of the threat to fear for his or her safety. That is what they got a warrant for? a) He didn't strike a cop. b) 1st amendment bitches. FTP is protected speech. No. The word "fuck" used in a public setting is prosecutable under disorderly conduct in AL. Thanks for playing, don't let the doorknob hit you on the way out. Prosecuting for saying fuck is like outlawing those scary AR15's cuz feels n shit. Ermagerd rights??!! NIMBY!!! Ooookeyyy...Whatever you say there, highspeed.  You just doubled down on stupid How about you crawl out of my ass? I was saying that I've seen a successful prosecution on a DC charge based on the above mentioned criteria. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 8:58:50 PM EDT
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No. The word "fuck" used in a public setting is prosecutable under disorderly conduct in AL. Thanks for playing, don't let the doorknob hit you on the way out. If you support people being arrested for saying "fuck" you are a tyrant. No, I'm not kidding. He's also completely ignorant. This was settled 40 years ago in Cohen v. California. Successfully prosecuted using Code of Alabama 1975. Disorderly Conduct: ...(3) "In a public place, uses abusive or obscene language"...BTW, it wasn't my case, so everyone should feel free to remove the sand. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 9:15:03 PM EDT
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And you could run the risk of going to jail in at least one county in Florida. For merely saying or using the word "fuck" in a manner that doesn't constitute "fighting words?" I hope they have a good litigation claim reserve or insurance policy. From what I'm told it has held up to challenges so far. County ordinances are often passed in response to certain conditions created by unusual circumstances. "From what I'm told"... AKA "I don't know." I know, do you? I know that people who truly know something do not refer to that knowledge as hearsay. Good luck prosecuting free speech, comrade. 
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Posted: 3/19/2016 9:20:45 PM EDT
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I know that people who truly know something do not refer to that knowledge as hearsay.
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Posted: 3/19/2016 9:21:20 PM EDT
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How about you crawl out of my ass? I was saying that I've seen a successful prosecution on a DC charge based on the above mentioned criteria. For someone that likes namecalling you sure have thin skin. That's a pretty low bar for success IMO, but everyone has to be reasonable about what they can achieve, right???
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Posted: 3/19/2016 10:34:20 PM EDT
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For someone that likes namecalling you sure have thin skin. That's a pretty low bar for success IMO, but everyone has to be reasonable about what they can achieve, right??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How about you crawl out of my ass? I was saying that I've seen a successful prosecution on a DC charge based on the above mentioned criteria. For someone that likes namecalling you sure have thin skin. That's a pretty low bar for success IMO, but everyone has to be reasonable about what they can achieve, right??? Nope, just measured responses. Last that I checked, it was a polite conversation between me and Ranger, I don't remember anyone pulling your string. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 11:07:30 PM EDT
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Nope, just measured responses. Last that I checked, it was a polite conversation between me and Ranger, I don't remember anyone pulling your string. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How about you crawl out of my ass? I was saying that I've seen a successful prosecution on a DC charge based on the above mentioned criteria. For someone that likes namecalling you sure have thin skin. That's a pretty low bar for success IMO, but everyone has to be reasonable about what they can achieve, right??? Nope, just measured responses. Last that I checked, it was a polite conversation between me and Ranger, I don't remember anyone pulling your string. I'm sorry for offending you, I understand you are sensitive. Your "conversation" with Ranger began with him laughing at your response to me. Please forgive me. |
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Posted: 3/19/2016 11:19:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would be up to the victim seek an arrest warrant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? So in your opinion: Throwing a football at a cop car = arrest arrant. So would you issue an arrest warrant if someone threw a football at a normal car? If the answer is no, then you are a hypoctite It would be up to the victim seek an arrest warrant. Yeah fucking right. Call me jaded but I was told if I wanted somthing done to do it in civil court when I had evidence of someone damaging my car. Cop would not do one fucking thing, not even a ticket even when the other party ADMITED guilt. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 12:06:16 AM EDT
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How about you crawl out of my ass? I was saying that I've seen a successful prosecution on a DC charge based on the above mentioned criteria. For someone that likes namecalling you sure have thin skin. That's a pretty low bar for success IMO, but everyone has to be reasonable about what they can achieve, right??? Nope, just measured responses. Last that I checked, it was a polite conversation between me and Ranger, I don't remember anyone pulling your string. I'm sorry for offending you, I understand you are sensitive. Your "conversation" with Ranger began with him laughing at your response to me. Please forgive me. Why is it that virtually every thread concerning LE interaction has "That Guy" that somehow throws gun confiscation in? It usually is two separate topics, like now.
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Posted: 3/20/2016 10:17:24 AM EDT
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Yeah fucking right. Call me jaded but I was told if I wanted somthing done to do it in civil court when I had evidence of someone damaging my car. Cop would not do one fucking thing, not even a ticket even when the other party ADMITED guilt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be up to the victim seek an arrest warrant. Yeah fucking right. Call me jaded but I was told if I wanted somthing done to do it in civil court when I had evidence of someone damaging my car. Cop would not do one fucking thing, not even a ticket even when the other party ADMITED guilt. Cops don't get to issue warrants, magistrates and judges do that. A cop can't arrest for a misdemeanor he did not witness unless it is a crime of domestic violence. It would be up to you to take your report to a magistrate to obtain a warrant not the cop. Also I don't know your individual circumstance but it may be a civil case. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 10:29:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not going to catch a charge for saying "fuck" in the middle of a bunch of beach drunks. Say it in a church or grocery check out line is a different story. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 10:44:23 AM EDT
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You are not going to catch a charge for saying "fuck" in the middle of a bunch of beach drunks. Say it in a church or grocery check out line is a different story. Don't you have enough problems to fix in your own state without inflicting your presence on people in the south? How is that firearms owner ID thing working out for you? |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 10:46:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah fucking right. Call me jaded but I was told if I wanted somthing done to do it in civil court when I had evidence of someone damaging my car. Cop would not do one fucking thing, not even a ticket even when the other party ADMITED guilt. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 10:55:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't you have enough problems to fix in your own state without inflicting your presence on people in the south? How is that firearms owner ID thing working out for you? I have family who live in Gulf Shores, and I try to get down there every so often. I didn't realize that unconstitutional laws were ok in the South, but not ok in Illinois. Other than being arguably unconstitutional and a slight pain in the ass because i have to renew every 10 years for 10 bucks, it works fine for me. I have plenty of guns including those nasty "assault rifles" and "high capacity magazines"
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Posted: 3/20/2016 12:23:43 PM EDT
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Lol Either you are a lot dumber than I thought or youre just trying to be all edgy and cool and argue just Because you don't like police officers. Quick question for you, do you feel that the police ignoring BLM actions have done anything other than enable the protesters? Answer honestly and then we can continue this. Well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? You assert that these things would happen, yet days passed between a thousand people seeing the act and the charges being brought and none of your assertions came to fruition. It was allowed to happen, and it was only luck and social media that solved the heinous crime. It's hilarious that you think you have to explain it to me slowly when you failed to comprehend that your assertion was disproven before you ever typed a word about it professor. Lol Either you are a lot dumber than I thought or youre just trying to be all edgy and cool and argue just Because you don't like police officers. Quick question for you, do you feel that the police ignoring BLM actions have done anything other than enable the protesters? Answer honestly and then we can continue this. Well? Police response to BLM, no matter what route they choose is not going to stop what BLM does. The rioting and looting will happen in one place while cops stand by, or cops can respond and it will happen in another area. They have realized that they have political backing and they know they outnumber you. The only way police response can have any meaningful effect on a BLM situation like Baltimore is to kill them all. Then it will be suicide to be a cop for the next 10 years. Police don't have any power over a movement like BLM, and will never fully control such a situation. It will settle down on its own or it will grow and expand on its own, police response will only be a modifier at best for a localized and temporary situation. It's nationwide and a response in St Louis or Philly can precipitate another BLM protest, riot, looting spree in other cities if the flames are fanned or if police are deemed too heavy handed in one response. You lose this fight regardless of how you fight it in the end, it was inevitable as soon as the WoD was kicked off. You read and respond honestly to that. Now my point regarding this incident is that it didn't encourage more bad behavior immediately or after it was posted to facebook. Your assertion that charges had any effect on the crowd that day is false, and for days after as well. If it teaches these "idiots" anything it's to make sure no buddy posts their exploits to facebook and the cops will be forever clueless as to who dangerously assaulted their patrol car with a deadly air filled pigskin. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 12:42:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/20/2016 1:26:30 PM EDT
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A fucking shit ton of yankees. Our highways are clogged from now till Labor Day with yanks coming down here. Friday and Sunday the main highways are crawling. I take back roads to get around. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who goes to Alabama for Spring break? Lol. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile A fucking shit ton of yankees. Our highways are clogged from now till Labor Day with yanks coming down here. Friday and Sunday the main highways are crawling. I take back roads to get around. Certainly not coming from AL, you have to be in a school to get a break from it in the spring. H'aint no schooling going on down there that I knows uf. Lulz. I did have the same question. Back in the day, if some one ever proposed a road trip to AL, I would have assumed they were joking. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 1:30:34 PM EDT
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You are not going to catch a charge for saying "fuck" in the middle of a bunch of beach drunks. Say it in a church or grocery check out line is a different story. Don't you have enough problems to fix in your own state without inflicting your presence on people in the south? How is that firearms owner ID thing working out for you? Welcome to Gd..... When all else fails just knock someone else's gun rights . You're going to cost me my account one of these days. i can't stand you or anything about you. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 1:47:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/20/2016 1:54:10 PM EDT
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Is this what precipitated the ban on alcohol on the beach today? $500 fine and 6 months in jail iirc they have two rapes this week. ...........So punish the rapists. Hey,everybody knows that one day you are hanging out throwing a foot ball and goofing off and the next day is rape day. So foot ball throwers are essentially rapists. Warrants must be issued and a team of Top Men assigned to investigate. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 1:54:12 PM EDT
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Police response to BLM, no matter what route they choose is not going to stop what BLM does. The rioting and looting will happen in one place while cops stand by, or cops can respond and it will happen in another area. They have realized that they have political backing and they know they outnumber you. The only way police response can have any meaningful effect on a BLM situation like Baltimore is to kill them all. Then it will be suicide to be a cop for the next 10 years. Police don't have any power over a movement like BLM, and will never fully control such a situation. It will settle down on its own or it will grow and expand on its own, police response will only be a modifier at best for a localized and temporary situation. It's nationwide and a response in St Louis or Philly can precipitate another BLM protest, riot, looting spree in other cities if the flames are fanned or if police are deemed too heavy handed in one response. You lose this fight regardless of how you fight it in the end, it was inevitable as soon as the WoD  was kicked off. You read and respond honestly to that.
Now my point regarding this incident is that it didn't encourage more bad behavior immediately or after it was posted to facebook. Your assertion that charges had any effect on the crowd that day is false, and for days after as well. If it teaches these "idiots" anything it's to make sure no buddy posts their exploits to facebook and the cops will be forever clueless as to who dangerously assaulted their patrol car with a deadly air filled pigskin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reading comprehension isn't your strong suits is it? I didn't say they followed it with cups, chairs and rioting now did I. So again what BS did I make up? Here I'll type this extremely slowly for you. Letting things like throwing objects at police, only encourage these type of activities, they seldom cease and usually result in more similar and worse activities. IE cups, bottles, chairs. Making these actions have consequences well now that tends to put an end to it. In a large crowd setting, like spring break, police need to show that this type of activity will not be tolerated. It is a control issue. Loss of control and things quickly get out of hand. Idiots like this kid are exactly why it is now illegal to have alcohol on the beach in PC. Gulf shores will most likely do the same. That better? You assert that these things would happen, yet days passed between a thousand people seeing the act and the charges being brought and none of your assertions came to fruition. It was allowed to happen, and it was only luck and social media that solved the heinous crime. It's hilarious that you think you have to explain it to me slowly when you failed to comprehend that your assertion was disproven before you ever typed a word about it professor. Lol Either you are a lot dumber than I thought or youre just trying to be all edgy and cool and argue just Because you don't like police officers. Quick question for you, do you feel that the police ignoring BLM actions have done anything other than enable the protesters? Answer honestly and then we can continue this. Well? Police response to BLM, no matter what route they choose is not going to stop what BLM does. The rioting and looting will happen in one place while cops stand by, or cops can respond and it will happen in another area. They have realized that they have political backing and they know they outnumber you. The only way police response can have any meaningful effect on a BLM situation like Baltimore is to kill them all. Then it will be suicide to be a cop for the next 10 years. Police don't have any power over a movement like BLM, and will never fully control such a situation. It will settle down on its own or it will grow and expand on its own, police response will only be a modifier at best for a localized and temporary situation. It's nationwide and a response in St Louis or Philly can precipitate another BLM protest, riot, looting spree in other cities if the flames are fanned or if police are deemed too heavy handed in one response. You lose this fight regardless of how you fight it in the end, it was inevitable as soon as the WoD was kicked off. You read and respond honestly to that.
Now my point regarding this incident is that it didn't encourage more bad behavior immediately or after it was posted to facebook. Your assertion that charges had any effect on the crowd that day is false, and for days after as well. If it teaches these "idiots" anything it's to make sure no buddy posts their exploits to facebook and the cops will be forever clueless as to who dangerously assaulted their patrol car with a deadly air filled pigskin. Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 2:23:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/20/2016 8:08:18 PM EDT
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Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 8:11:31 PM EDT
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I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can. So BLM is an unstoppable force? I don't believe that. Not. For. One. Second. And neither do you. |
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So BLM is an unstoppable force? I don't believe that. Not. For. One. Second. And neither do you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can. So BLM is an unstoppable force? I don't believe that. Not. For. One. Second. And neither do you. No they arent, but police don't have the power to stop it because police are the fuel. As I said in my previous post on yhe subject BLM will cease or increase due to the whim of the political power behind it. Police action is only local and ineffective nationally at best...fuel for the fire causing larger and more widespread protest at worse. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 9:18:51 PM EDT
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No they arent, but police don't have the power to stop it because police are the fuel. As I said in my previous post on yhe subject BLM will cease or increase due to the whim of the political power behind it. Police action is only local and ineffective nationally at best...fuel for the fire causing larger and more widespread protest at worse. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can. So BLM is an unstoppable force? I don't believe that. Not. For. One. Second. And neither do you. No they arent, but police don't have the power to stop it because police are the fuel. As I said in my previous post on yhe subject BLM will cease or increase due to the whim of the political power behind it. Police action is only local and ineffective nationally at best...fuel for the fire causing larger and more widespread protest at worse. And the police are as effective as the political power behind them. How much success has the anarchy/riot causing element enjoyed because of political constraints (by mayors for example) placed on the police? How far have those elements pushed it because the political powers enabled their activity? Give an inch, take a mile. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 9:47:27 PM EDT
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And the police are as effective as the political power behind them. How much success has the anarchy/riot causing element enjoyed because of political constraints (by mayors for example) placed on the police? How far have those elements pushed it because the political powers enabled their activity? Give an inch, take a mile. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can. So BLM is an unstoppable force? I don't believe that. Not. For. One. Second. And neither do you. No they arent, but police don't have the power to stop it because police are the fuel. As I said in my previous post on yhe subject BLM will cease or increase due to the whim of the political power behind it. Police action is only local and ineffective nationally at best...fuel for the fire causing larger and more widespread protest at worse. And the police are as effective as the political power behind them. How much success has the anarchy/riot causing element enjoyed because of political constraints (by mayors for example) placed on the police? How far have those elements pushed it because the political powers enabled their activity? Give an inch, take a mile. Like I said the actions in the streets between the police and BLM is nothing more than pawns maneuvering. |
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I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can. 
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Posted: 3/20/2016 10:36:52 PM EDT
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Just let them do whatever they like, zero consequences have only embolden BLM just as it does drunk spring breakers. Zero consequences is causing the problem to grow. Only a fool would think otherwise. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can.
Just let them do whatever they like, zero consequences have only embolden BLM just as it does drunk spring breakers. Zero consequences is causing the problem to grow. Only a fool would think otherwise. Apparently you can't grasp that they were let to do what they like. Until the Facebook post was discovered and the thrower identified, there was no response and there's no report of cop cars being pelted in the time between. You act like this was nipped in the bud Barney, when in fact it wasn't. The cops never had any control over the issue. Charging is purely retaliatory and has ZERO effect on the crowds. |
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Apparently you can't grasp that they were let to do what they like. holy shit man, that's my point Until the Facebook post was discovered and the thrower identified, there was no response and there's no report of cop cars being pelted in the time between. You act like this was nipped in the bud Barney, when in fact it wasn't. only in your headThe cops never had any control over the issue. Charging is purely retaliatory and has ZERO effect on the crowds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can.
Just let them do whatever they like, zero consequences have only embolden BLM just as it does drunk spring breakers. Zero consequences is causing the problem to grow. Only a fool would think otherwise. Apparently you can't grasp that they were let to do what they like. holy shit man, that's my point Until the Facebook post was discovered and the thrower identified, there was no response and there's no report of cop cars being pelted in the time between. You act like this was nipped in the bud Barney, when in fact it wasn't. only in your headThe cops never had any control over the issue. Charging is purely retaliatory and has ZERO effect on the crowds.
Oh I completely grasp that they (BLM) were allowed to do what they liked. That's the whole issue and the point of my post . I guess you're going to force me to type slowly again.... I never said that the warrant for the football throw instantly stopped the cops from being pelted by other objects. What I did say is these type of actions, the warrant, keeps these things from growing, no action from the police only embolden this type of activities, causing them to grow. What's so funny you even agree with that but for some stupid reason you feel the need to argue about it. You're being argumentive just because of who you are, and your silly idealology. ETA Here's my post that you're making such a big deal about. "It's about not letting a bunch of entitled, spoiled, punk ass, brats get away with this type of activity. You give the football a pass and next it's cups, bottles and chairs. A perfect example is BLM, cops have been told to stand down during "protest". The only thing that has achieved is a sense of entitlement. BLM riot, burn, loot, shut down traffic just because they know nothing will be done." |
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Posted: 3/21/2016 12:18:02 AM EDT
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Apparently you can't grasp that they were let to do what they like. Until the Facebook post was discovered and the thrower identified, there was no response and there's no report of cop cars being pelted in the time between. You act like this was nipped in the bud Barney, when in fact it wasn't. The cops never had any control over the issue. Charging is purely retaliatory and has ZERO effect on the crowds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sighhhhh So, are you going to actually answer the question or not? I answered it. No. You assume incorrectly that police response to BLM matters. It does not. The protests are driven by forces outside of the protesters vs police. Sit and watch they loot and burn, react sternly and they loot and burn in other cities and neighborhoods. The police have no control whatsoever over it. The street action of police vs protestors, looters, rioters is nothing more than pawns facing off. Cops can't do squat about BLM overall, you're a fool if you think you can.
Just let them do whatever they like, zero consequences have only embolden BLM just as it does drunk spring breakers. Zero consequences is causing the problem to grow. Only a fool would think otherwise. Apparently you can't grasp that they were let to do what they like. Until the Facebook post was discovered and the thrower identified, there was no response and there's no report of cop cars being pelted in the time between. You act like this was nipped in the bud Barney, when in fact it wasn't. The cops never had any control over the issue. Charging is purely retaliatory and has ZERO effect on the crowds. Well, they do what they like until people and the powers that be have enough. There's plenty of examples of how conduct at spring break locations will go. There's enough information and historical precedence out there that the conduct will not improve, it will go down hill. |
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Posted: 3/21/2016 12:33:55 AM EDT
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