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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:18:30 AM EDT
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I don't believe that will have the power to start a V8 truck engine in 0F weather.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:19:00 AM EDT
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LOL I would love to see that thing crank my Titan
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:19:15 AM EDT
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Sweet, that goes on the xmas list.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:20:41 AM EDT
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I don't believe that will have the power to start a V8 truck engine in 0F weather. If it is good enough to do that then the battery storage issue with hybrids has a solution. I did not read reviews or a unbiased lab test but I am skeptical. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:22:41 AM EDT
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The MAC tool guy was doing a demo with one at my old work. It was the same concept but $200.
It started an S10 that had been sitting for months and didn't have a battery in it. Just hooked it to the (+) (-) cables. I was impressed. Don't know how good the amazon ones are but with the rating I bet its the same. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 12:35:42 PM EDT
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LOL I would love to see that thing crank my Titan It would be able to. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 12:40:14 PM EDT
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If it can jump a car engine, I don't think I want that kind of amperage near my testicles.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 12:43:03 PM EDT
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I have a similar one but different brand. It works like a champ, it has started everything I threw at it, even started a V6 4 Runner hooked directly to the cable with no battery.
It works, will it start a Diesel, hell no, will it start a big V8 in cold weather, remains to be seen but willing to chance it. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 12:58:39 PM EDT
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Check out the NOCO genius gb30. More expensive. Higher rating and reviews. States able to start v8 engines. Works great. I found it on sale for under a hundred dollars. Wish I bought more.
http://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GB30-UltraSafe-Lithium-Starter/dp/B00M1OUBES/ref=sr_1_sc_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1416416141&sr=1-2-spell&keywords=Genus+G30 |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 1:03:52 PM EDT
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Whichever brand the Snap-On guy is selling will start our Mercedes diesels in 50 degrees weather. Haven't had the chance to try it in freezing temps. All of us in the shop are impressed with them.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 2:09:56 PM EDT
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WTF is that, a bunch of wired together capacitors in plastic box and some sensors? I have had the jumper packs in the past, they had a bitch of a time starting a V6 S10, those POS could barely get single turn of a V8.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 2:13:59 PM EDT
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I doubt that thing would start a 22re (4 cylinder 'yota engine) let alone my V6 4runner.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 2:15:39 PM EDT
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I have it and it works as stated the thing is a fuckin beast.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 2:56:03 PM EDT
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Interesting
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Posted: 11/19/2014 3:53:41 PM EDT
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ITT we find out who has never seen one in action.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:01:41 PM EDT
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I don't believe that will have the power to start a V8 truck engine in 0F weather. i bought this one a few months ago. it will start my kia optima with no battery. it turns over but won't start my 7.4l suburban with no battery. with a "dead" battery it puts enough juice in to easly start the suburban. <assuming battery isn;t mechanically dead> http://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GB30-UltraSafe-Lithium-Starter/dp/B00M1OUBES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416427205&sr=8-1&keywords=noco+gb30 |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:04:35 PM EDT
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LOL I would love to see that thing crank my Titan Well. We had 3 of them in our used car dept until some dumbass lent one of them to a wholesaler to boost a beater he was checking out. Hooked the cables up backwards and the box exploded and caught fire. That being said, I have started several diesel trucks (DMAX, Cummins, F350 etc ) with either of our remaining 2 in -20*F temperatures and the engines crank like they have new batteries hooked up. Sure beats the hell out of hauling a battery cart or a 40LB boost box around a lot with 2 feet of snow on the ground. Those things are a godsend, they really work well. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:08:21 PM EDT
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They're probably using LiPo or LiFePO4 cells. It it really amazing how much current these new generation battery cells can put out.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:09:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Check out the NOCO genius gb30. More expensive. Higher rating and reviews. States able to start v8 engines. Works great. I found it on sale for under a hundred dollars. Wish I bought more. http://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GB30-UltraSafe-Lithium-Starter/dp/B00M1OUBES/ref=sr_1_sc_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1416416141&sr=1-2-spell&keywords=Genus+G30 I just bought one of these myself and will vouch for the build quality. I haven't used it to start anything yet. Hope I never have to, but I bet it would start just about everything. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:12:51 PM EDT
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They're probably using LiPo or LiFePO4 cells. It it really amazing how much current these new generation battery cells can put out. This is the answer. I use these cells in my RC trucks. They can put out 100 amps. ETA - The connectors on it even look like ones used in the RC hobby. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:17:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:18:30 PM EDT
[#22]
They are super popular in the motorcycle world, they work great. Also awesome as back up power for phones, cameras, lap tops ect.
No idea how they would work vs big v8's ect but I would not be surprised they would crank them right over. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:19:02 PM EDT
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They're probably using LiPo or LiFePO4 cells. It it really amazing how much current these new generation battery cells can put out. I bet you're right. The one the MAC man showed me had what looked to be MOSFET wired in line like you'd see on an airsoft gun running LiPos. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:20:57 PM EDT
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i dont want something with enough oomph to start a car next to my dick.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:22:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:23:23 PM EDT
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i dont want something with enough oomph to start a car next to my dick. Going to have to go with this. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:26:19 PM EDT
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i dont want something with enough oomph to start a car next to my dick. They can start a car anywhere, your dick doesn't even have to be close to it. 
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:28:07 PM EDT
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LOL I would love to see that thing crank my Titan F250 7.3L |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:28:23 PM EDT
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I don't believe that will have the power to start a V8 truck engine in 0F weather. My V8 truck's battery doesn't have the power to start the engine after a night of 0F. I connected a Battery Tender lead and plug it in every night in the garage. One of my practice partners drives a Tesla. We both plug our vehicles in at night, but I get the added fun of a 15MPG V8 and GMC's Lucas-designed electrical system. 
I can sit and listen to the radio for about 10 minutes before getting the "start engine/battery low" warning. So, I crank the engine over, but the radio still forgets its presets. It randomly forgets when it's cold anyway. Yeah, I probably need to just replace the battery, but it's maddening that a normally garaged and regularly driven vehicle should have a battery go T-U after 3 years, especially with the upgraded alternator and plenty of highway driving. So, I should probably get one of these starters for the inevitable day my vehicle won't start when nobody's around to give a jump. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:31:06 PM EDT
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My brother bought a "Micro Start" from the Mac man and is impressed. It is larger than the one linked but I don't think it is 2 lbs. Said to be able to start a diesel, think its rated for 800 amps. Sub $200. Another guy in the shop has been abusing one for a couple months and a smaller one that he takes with him on the motorcycle.
Looks interesting, might buy one myself. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:31:37 PM EDT
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The Antigravity series has a very good reputation and there are favorable reviews on Expedition Portal. Yep, it'll crank a V8 and there is a model designed for heavy engines like diesels (the XP-10). Heck, there are videos on-line of folks cranking Land Rover Discoveries with a Dewalt 18v battery.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:33:45 PM EDT
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I was looking at this one earlier.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MQ5Z5F2/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=1416428743&sr=1-9&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70 How long until I can wire ten of the together for a portable railgun?
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:42:15 PM EDT
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Found the specs over at Crutchfield:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-thVsn8wEG9b/p_860PDJS12K/PowerAll-PBJS12000-R.html jump starter current: 200 - 400 amps battery capacity: 12,000mAh You might get one or two shots at jump starting a car, but if the internal cells are Lithium, the power pack better be warm (above freezing) or your current output is going to be shit. It's probably similar to an overgrown laptop battery, 16 x 18650 cells. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:54:02 PM EDT
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My BIL has one. Said he tested it and started his Jeep just fine.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:56:50 PM EDT
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You guys must have some big pockets.
Looks like a nice thing to travel with. I always have a jump starter in my personal vehicles, but only seem to ever need them on the road when in a rental. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 5:02:13 PM EDT
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Interesting how the picture on Amazon shows the negative going to the negative terminal. I realize a lot of folks do that, but the "official" safety thing has always been to ground it away from the battery, due to the small risk of a spark igniting hydrogen gas. Is this pretty much considered a non-issue these days?
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Posted: 11/19/2014 5:21:08 PM EDT
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Interesting how the picture on Amazon shows the negative going to the negative terminal. I realize a lot of folks do that, but the "official" safety thing has always been to ground it away from the battery, due to the small risk of a spark igniting hydrogen gas. Is this pretty much considered a non-issue these days? This. I always find a non painted, metal body component (usually a dog bone or a strut top bolt) to connect the negative terminal. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 5:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I always find a non painted, metal body component (usually a dog bone or a strut top bolt) to connect the negative terminal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interesting how the picture on Amazon shows the negative going to the negative terminal. I realize a lot of folks do that, but the "official" safety thing has always been to ground it away from the battery, due to the small risk of a spark igniting hydrogen gas. Is this pretty much considered a non-issue these days? This. I always find a non painted, metal body component (usually a dog bone or a strut top bolt) to connect the negative terminal. I think that of all the times I've "jumped" somebody, I've only had success grounding off of the frame/body ONCE (out of tens of times). I know that it's the "correct" thing to do, but most times you have to hook the negative directly up to the battery to get the peak amount of current to where it will actually work. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 5:38:23 PM EDT
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I doubt that thing would start a 22re (4 cylinder 'yota engine) let alone my V6 4runner. And you'd be wrong. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 5:49:30 PM EDT
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A friend has one and they do work. They have a diesel model too.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 5:52:23 PM EDT
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I don't believe that will have the power to start a V8 truck engine in 0F weather. if its anything like my matco versapower pro itll start a v8 diesel truck in 0f weather. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 6:00:44 PM EDT
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I think that of all the times I've "jumped" somebody, I've only had success grounding off of the frame/body ONCE (out of tens of times). I know that it's the "correct" thing to do, but most times you have to hook the negative directly up to the battery to get the peak amount of current to where it will actually work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting how the picture on Amazon shows the negative going to the negative terminal. I realize a lot of folks do that, but the "official" safety thing has always been to ground it away from the battery, due to the small risk of a spark igniting hydrogen gas. Is this pretty much considered a non-issue these days? This. I always find a non painted, metal body component (usually a dog bone or a strut top bolt) to connect the negative terminal. I think that of all the times I've "jumped" somebody, I've only had success grounding off of the frame/body ONCE (out of tens of times). I know that it's the "correct" thing to do, but most times you have to hook the negative directly up to the battery to get the peak amount of current to where it will actually work. I have always connected the dead side first. Negative then positive. The go to the live battery, neg then positive. I have never seen a spark doing it this way. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 6:02:35 PM EDT
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I think that of all the times I've "jumped" somebody, I've only had success grounding off of the frame/body ONCE (out of tens of times). I know that it's the "correct" thing to do, but most times you have to hook the negative directly up to the battery to get the peak amount of current to where it will actually work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting how the picture on Amazon shows the negative going to the negative terminal. I realize a lot of folks do that, but the "official" safety thing has always been to ground it away from the battery, due to the small risk of a spark igniting hydrogen gas. Is this pretty much considered a non-issue these days? This. I always find a non painted, metal body component (usually a dog bone or a strut top bolt) to connect the negative terminal. I think that of all the times I've "jumped" somebody, I've only had success grounding off of the frame/body ONCE (out of tens of times). I know that it's the "correct" thing to do, but most times you have to hook the negative directly up to the battery to get the peak amount of current to where it will actually work. I've had success as long as I avoided painted surfaces. My car has a chunk of metal that I had assumed was specifically to clamp the negative cable to for grounding, but I can't get it to start at all of I use it. But, no issues if I use an exposed bolt. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 6:06:53 PM EDT
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I have a different brand than the ones linked to here, but it was around $100 from a tool guy that stops by the shop. I used it to start my Suburban (96, 350) yesterday morning. It was 8 degrees out, -3 windchill.
I love the thing. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 6:08:17 PM EDT
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I've got one off the snap on truck. It's a beast, starts my F-150, John Deere farm tractor and a F-450 V-10. It'll only charge my iPhone three times before it's dead. Jumped my truck six times in a row and only dropped one light out of five.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 6:12:34 PM EDT
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Just an FYI, I may or may not have started a 2013 Mustang GT (Coyote V8 - had to replace battery) with two standard 6v lantern batteries once or twice so I can see where something like that can work well enough in a pinch.
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Posted: 11/19/2014 6:19:03 PM EDT
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if its anything like my matco versapower pro itll start a v8 diesel truck in 0f weather. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't believe that will have the power to start a V8 truck engine in 0F weather. if its anything like my matco versapower pro itll start a v8 diesel truck in 0f weather. Think it would jump a 24v truck battery or is it 12v only? |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 6:19:55 PM EDT
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Hummmmm,
Might need to have that added to the Christmas list. NOCO Genius Boost GB30 12V UltraSafe Lithium Jump StarterIt comes with a cig lighter port, can you keep it plugged in to charge? (Does it keep from over charging or drain the battery when the car is off?) |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 6:22:50 PM EDT
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Used one on a STi. Worked great.
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Posted: 11/22/2014 6:37:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would be able to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL I would love to see that thing crank my Titan It would be able to. |
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