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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:26:22 AM EDT
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Lots of defendants have ptsd, victims of sexual abuse, physical abuse, severe neglect, so should someone who saw horrific deaths of his comrades in battle get a pass that some poor schmoe who was cornholed by his dad while his mom held him down doesn't? He'll get a break that the rest of us wouldn't, might dodge a felony probably won't do time or only local, he should be in rehab with the guns hung up by now if he's smart. Well said. I was going to respond with something similar to SEKwhatevers comments on the last page. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:32:52 AM EDT
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So he's just a reserve cop? After all the operator face shooter macho posturing going back months? A part time cop? In Lake Arthur, NM population 436. All the "reserves" i've ever met from Lake Arthur are complete fucking poser morons. All of them. 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:37:16 AM EDT
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In Lake Arthur, NM population 436. All the "reserves" i've ever met from Lake Arthur are complete fucking poser morons. All of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he's just a reserve cop? After all the operator face shooter macho posturing going back months? A part time cop? In Lake Arthur, NM population 436. All the "reserves" i've ever met from Lake Arthur are complete fucking poser morons. All of them. Pressburg is not a poser. Shooting someone unintentionally while drunk, that is moronic though 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:19:34 AM EDT
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In Lake Arthur, NM population 436. All the "reserves" i've ever met from Lake Arthur are complete fucking poser morons. All of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he's just a reserve cop? After all the operator face shooter macho posturing going back months? A part time cop? In Lake Arthur, NM population 436. All the "reserves" i've ever met from Lake Arthur are complete fucking poser morons. All of them. Macho posturing? Poser? It's amazing what the truly uninformed will come up with. You clearly haven't met him and think you know all about him. You know nothing but for some reason people try to make themselves feel important by thinking they have it all figured out. Not that any of those involved care but that is both sad and pathetic. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:45:42 AM EDT
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In Lake Arthur, NM population 436. All the "reserves" i've ever met from Lake Arthur are complete fucking poser morons. All of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he's just a reserve cop? After all the operator face shooter macho posturing going back months? A part time cop? In Lake Arthur, NM population 436. All the "reserves" i've ever met from Lake Arthur are complete fucking poser morons. All of them. Lol....I can guarantee I've met more of them than you and do not share your opinion. Chuck is a good dude. I wasnt there so I will hold back making a judgement either way. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 11:14:44 AM EDT
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Lol....I can guarantee I've met more of them than you and do not share your opinion. Chuck is a good dude. I wasnt there so I will hold back making a judgement either way. How many reserve cops from a town of 436 people can there be? And how are you meeting them? |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:07:02 PM EDT
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Lol....I can guarantee I've met more of them than you and do not share your opinion. Chuck is a good dude. I wasnt there so I will hold back making a judgement either way. How many reserve cops from a town of 436 people can there be? And how are you meeting them? In Virginia at that. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:10:25 PM EDT
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I wonder if there would be this much "support" if say... Costa ND'd into someones gut?
Or what if Sonny Russian Dude shot someone with an AK by accident? Surely the industry would immediately stand behind him.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:16:21 PM EDT
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Lol....I can guarantee I've met more of them than you and do not share your opinion. Chuck is a good dude. I wasnt there so I will hold back making a judgement either way. How many reserve cops from a town of 436 people can there be? And how are you meeting them? In Virginia at that. In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:34:29 PM EDT
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In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol....I can guarantee I've met more of them than you and do not share your opinion. Chuck is a good dude. I wasnt there so I will hold back making a judgement either way. How many reserve cops from a town of 436 people can there be? And how are you meeting them? In Virginia at that. In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? Yes. I've never traveled in my life because I haven't been to the middle of nowhere NM. 
So tell me, how many reserve police officers does this town of less than 500 people have? |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:20:54 PM EDT
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I guess it's normal, but still odd, for the internet pack mentality to have guys acting like hair dressers discussing the latest gossip on TMZ.
I don't know him but he has a very impressive record of service, and has provided tons of helpful knowledge for military, police, and civilian gun owners that has made them safer and more prepared. Good lesson learned in that ND's can literally happen to anyone. And that would probably be the only valuable discussion, an AAR. Makes me feel even better about buying a 'gadget' for my aiwb G19 |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:27:12 PM EDT
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Yes. I've never traveled in my life because I haven't been to the middle of nowhere NM.
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Lol....I can guarantee I've met more of them than you and do not share your opinion. Chuck is a good dude. I wasnt there so I will hold back making a judgement either way. How many reserve cops from a town of 436 people can there be? And how are you meeting them? In Virginia at that. In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? Yes. I've never traveled in my life because I haven't been to the middle of nowhere NM.
So tell me, how many reserve police officers does this town of less than 500 people have? Ask stupid questions and expect to get stupid answers. Why does it matter how many reserve cops this small town has? Maybe they keep the reserve LEO status for a reason. Need someone to explain what those reasons might be? |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:28:35 PM EDT
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In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? Other than the width of Saudi Arabia I've circumnavigated the globe. I'd consider that reasonably well traveled. I had no reason to know where the FLETC is. I do believe your premise is flawed. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:42:16 PM EDT
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Ask stupid questions and expect to get stupid answers. Why does it matter how many reserve cops this small town has? Maybe they keep the reserve LEO status for a reason. Need someone to explain what those reasons might be? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol....I can guarantee I've met more of them than you and do not share your opinion. Chuck is a good dude. I wasnt there so I will hold back making a judgement either way. How many reserve cops from a town of 436 people can there be? And how are you meeting them? In Virginia at that. In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? Yes. I've never traveled in my life because I haven't been to the middle of nowhere NM.
So tell me, how many reserve police officers does this town of less than 500 people have? Ask stupid questions and expect to get stupid answers. Why does it matter how many reserve cops this small town has? Maybe they keep the reserve LEO status for a reason. Need someone to explain what those reasons might be? A police department that shouldn't exist has so many reserve officers that people here know numerous ones? I know exactly what their reason to keep LEO status is (it's in the city's codes that reserve officers get HR-218), why such a town would want to give a bunch of guys badges is the good question. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:46:43 PM EDT
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In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? In this thread we find out who lives within 15 minutes of FLETC and Lake Arthur and who's visited and thinks they know everything about the area and it's "reserve police force" that is nothing more than a good ol' boys club for the acquisition of LE only firearms and equipment.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:49:15 PM EDT
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A police department that shouldn't exist has so many reserve officers that people here know numerous ones? I know exactly what their reason to keep LEO status is (it's in the city's codes that reserve officers get HR-218), why such a town would want to give a bunch of guys badges is the good question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol....I can guarantee I've met more of them than you and do not share your opinion. Chuck is a good dude. I wasnt there so I will hold back making a judgement either way. How many reserve cops from a town of 436 people can there be? And how are you meeting them? In Virginia at that. In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? Yes. I've never traveled in my life because I haven't been to the middle of nowhere NM.
So tell me, how many reserve police officers does this town of less than 500 people have? Ask stupid questions and expect to get stupid answers. Why does it matter how many reserve cops this small town has? Maybe they keep the reserve LEO status for a reason. Need someone to explain what those reasons might be? A police department that shouldn't exist has so many reserve officers that people here know numerous ones? I know exactly what their reason to keep LEO status is (it's in the city's codes that reserve officers get HR-218), why such a town would want to give a bunch of guys badges is the good question. You nailed it. The bigger issue not being discussed is that Tier Chuck was .25 and playing with a gun. I'm sure it wasn't the first time he's been hammered and started to play with roscoe but hopefully it's the last and he gets the help he needs. He's damn luck no one was killed. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:52:31 PM EDT
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A police department that shouldn't exist has so many reserve officers that people here know numerous ones? I know exactly what their reason to keep LEO status is (it's in the city's codes that reserve officers get HR-218), why such a town would want to give a bunch of guys badges is the good question. They do it so everybody in the good ol' boys reserve club can get HR218 and buy LE only toys from another member of the club via letterhead but with personal money... At least that's how it was explained to me by a member of the club when I was offered a spot in the club (which I declined). The whole house of cards is just one high profile fuck-up away from collapsing... oh wait. 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:12:30 PM EDT
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Vickers resume can't hold a candle to Chucks. Sorry. Vickers is confirmed Delta during a time of low conflict, an accomplished 1911 pistol builder and world class instructor. "Roland" is an assumed identity used on the Internet and gun rags to pimp a fancy Glock 19 because apparently serving as a confirmed Ranger during a time of medium intensity conflict, bonze star winner, relatively unknown instructor and part time cop, wasnt sexy enough. Both served honorably, comparisons are stupid. The "hate" isn't directed at the man as much as at the marketing of the Roland Special. Much the same way much of the "hate" for Vickers is directly related to printer repair and Fireclean. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:40:01 PM EDT
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I wonder if there would be this much "support" if say... Costa ND'd into someones gut? Or what if Sonny Russian Dude shot someone with an AK by accident? Surely the industry would immediately stand behind him. You remember the Haley ND thread? It was hilarious. Even with video evidence people were coming out with f the woodwork to defend him and many said it wasn't a ND. Right up until he released a statement that it was a ND poor bastards didn't know what to say then.
If he would have shot somebody I can't even imagine the fallout. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:40:20 PM EDT
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Vickers is confirmed Delta during a time of low conflict, an accomplished 1911 pistol builder and world class instructor. "Roland" is an assumed identity used on the Internet and gun rags to pimp a fancy Glock 19 because apparently serving as a confirmed Ranger during a time of medium intensity conflict, bonze star winner, relatively unknown instructor and part time cop, wasnt sexy enough. Both served honorably, comparisons are stupid. The "hate" isn't directed at the man as much as at the marketing of the Roland Special. Much the same way much of the "hate" for Vickers is directly related to printer repair and Fireclean. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vickers resume can't hold a candle to Chucks. Sorry. Vickers is confirmed Delta during a time of low conflict, an accomplished 1911 pistol builder and world class instructor. "Roland" is an assumed identity used on the Internet and gun rags to pimp a fancy Glock 19 because apparently serving as a confirmed Ranger during a time of medium intensity conflict, bonze star winner, relatively unknown instructor and part time cop, wasnt sexy enough. Both served honorably, comparisons are stupid. The "hate" isn't directed at the man as much as at the marketing of the Roland Special. Much the same way much of the "hate" for Vickers is directly related to printer repair and Fireclean. How can you call it marketing when he isn't making a dime off of it? Listen to the modcast about its origins, he'll he's not even the one who named it. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:45:44 PM EDT
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Macho posturing? Poser? It's amazing what the truly uninformed will come up with. You clearly haven't met him and think you know all about him. You know nothing but for some reason people try to make themselves feel important by thinking they have it all figured out. Not that any of those involved care but that is both sad and pathetic. http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-topics/the-guns-network/the-roland-special-glock-19/ Now imagine how different the reaction would be if that article said "a retired Army Ranger has come up with an interesting concept concealed carry handgun..." Instead of using more buzzwords than an extreme shock ammo catalog. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:58:09 PM EDT
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I guess it's normal, but still odd, for the internet pack mentality to have guys acting like hair dressers discussing the latest gossip on TMZ. I don't know him but he has a very impressive record of service, and has provided tons of helpful knowledge for military, police, and civilian gun owners that has made them safer and more prepared. Good lesson learned in that ND's can literally happen to anyone. And that would probably be the only valuable discussion, an AAR. Makes me feel even better about buying a 'gadget' for my aiwb G19 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:08:22 PM EDT
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The surest way to be bit by a snake is learning how to be a snake handle.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:17:25 PM EDT
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Maybe anyone can fuck up with a gun, but a guy who shot his buddy while he was falling down shitfaced drunk isn't exactly proof of that Why do you hate our soldiers? 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:20:46 PM EDT
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Vickers is confirmed Delta during a time of low conflict, an accomplished 1911 pistol builder and world class instructor. "Roland" is an assumed identity used on the Internet and gun rags to pimp a fancy Glock 19 because apparently serving as a confirmed Ranger during a time of medium intensity conflict, bonze star winner, relatively unknown instructor and part time cop, wasnt sexy enough. Both served honorably, comparisons are stupid. The "hate" isn't directed at the man as much as at the marketing of the Roland Special. Much the same way much of the "hate" for Vickers is directly related to printer repair and Fireclean. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vickers resume can't hold a candle to Chucks. Sorry. Vickers is confirmed Delta during a time of low conflict, an accomplished 1911 pistol builder and world class instructor. "Roland" is an assumed identity used on the Internet and gun rags to pimp a fancy Glock 19 because apparently serving as a confirmed Ranger during a time of medium intensity conflict, bonze star winner, relatively unknown instructor and part time cop, wasnt sexy enough. Both served honorably, comparisons are stupid. The "hate" isn't directed at the man as much as at the marketing of the Roland Special. Much the same way much of the "hate" for Vickers is directly related to printer repair and Fireclean. Chuck was with the Ranger Regiment, then AWG and then moved on to Delta. He has been fighting the GWOT for 15 years. From the very beginning at Roberts Ridge to just retiring on Jan 1 from SFOD. Yes, that is a hell of a lot more than Vickers has done (not taking anything away from the LAV). They were in the service in different times. BTW... he doesn't make a dime off of the "Roland" G19. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:30:25 PM EDT
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They do it so everybody in the good ol' boys reserve club can get HR218 and buy LE only toys from another member of the club via letterhead but with personal money... At least that's how it was explained to me by a member of the club when I was offered a spot in the club (which I declined). The whole house of cards is just one high profile fuck-up away from collapsing... oh wait. The chief of that police department's Facebook profile pic is Judge Dread. Doesn't exactly scream professionalism. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:43:33 PM EDT
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The chief of that police department's Facebook profile pic is Judge Dread. Doesn't exactly scream professionalism. Their police station looks like one step above a mud hut. ETA: interestingly, City Data for the town shows zero full time police officers. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:56:07 PM EDT
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Their police station looks like one step above a mud hut. ETA: interestingly, City Data for the town shows zero full time police officers. Do a Google Maps street view tour of Lake Arthur. The whole town is one step above a mud hut and requires zero full time and no reserve police officers. Chaves county SO could easily handle the towns policing needs. Another interesting deal is why they choose to have a city reserve program instead of using the New Mexico Mounted Patrol program. Program oversight at the podunk level vs. oversight at the state level? Things that make you go hmmmm... |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:09:29 PM EDT
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Ever seen a volunteer fire department where half the members were hose sniffers, the other half were firebugs and the one thing they all had in common was a love for flashing red lights and sirens on their personal vehicles?
Yea... the Lake Arthur police reserve program is something like that.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:15:10 PM EDT
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Ever seen a volunteer fire department where half the members were hose sniffers, the other half were firebugs and the one thing they all had in common was a love for flashing red lights and sirens on their personal vehicles? Yea... the Lake Arthur police reserve program is something like that. Yes Yes I have |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:17:29 PM EDT
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That's kinda hilarious and awesome, even if part of the reason is that it's unusual.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:32:20 PM EDT
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Good lesson learned in that ND's can literally happen to anyone. And that would probably be the only valuable discussion, an AAR. Makes me feel even better about buying a 'gadget' for my aiwb G19 I already know a ND can happen that's why I treat guns with respect, you really trying to sell this as a learning lesson? He almost killed a guy while drunk. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 6:32:40 PM EDT
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Chuck was with the Ranger Regiment, then AWG and then moved on to Delta. He has been fighting the GWOT for 15 years. From the very beginning at Roberts Ridge to just retiring on Jan 1 from SFOD. Yes, that is a hell of a lot more than Vickers has done (not taking anything away from the LAV). They were in the service in different times. BTW... he doesn't make a dime off of the "Roland" G19. That all may be true. Think how different this whole discussion would have gone if they led with that. By being vague about "Roland," knowing the G&A readership and online nut huggers would fill in the blanks with larger than life stuff, then not correcting those assumptions, they created skeptics. Those skeptics may in a sense feel validated by "Roland" doing something so stupid. Is that fair to Mr Pressburg? Of course not. But it was the entirely predictable outcome to anyone even remotely familiar with the online gun community. The lesson, to future members of the military trying to transition to the civilian gun culture is this. You must be brutally honest about your background and correct any misinformation posted by sycophants, no matter how well meaning. Lest you be held to the impossible standards set by such exaggeration. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 6:47:58 PM EDT
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Do a Google Maps street view tour of Lake Arthur. The whole town is one step above a mud hut and requires zero full time and no reserve police officers. Chaves county SO could easily handle the towns policing needs. Another interesting deal is why they choose to have a city reserve program instead of using the New Mexico Mounted Patrol program. Program oversight at the podunk level vs. oversight at the state level? Things that make you go hmmmm... Chief probably gives out badges in exchange for free training. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 7:04:25 PM EDT
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Do a Google Maps street view tour of Lake Arthur. The whole town is one step above a mud hut and requires zero full time and no reserve police officers. Chaves county SO could easily handle the towns policing needs. Another interesting deal is why they choose to have a city reserve program instead of using the New Mexico Mounted Patrol program. Program oversight at the podunk level vs. oversight at the state level? Things that make you go hmmmm... Chief probably gives out badges in exchange for free training. You forgot the invitations to the really cool SHOT Show parties. I imagine that in exchange for a reserve deputy position, with the privileges that carries under HR218, the reserve cops/travelling trainers teach a class nearby once a year (so the Chief can attend) and then do a "shift," which is nothing more than an armed ride-along with the Chief, followed by dinner and drinks at the Chief's house. The Chief gets some cool-guy training, gets to attend the best SHOT Show parties, and can rub elbows with his idols, both online and in real life. The cool guys get a shiny badge, some sexy, LE-only toys, and the ability to carry a loaded gun with normal capacity mags everywhere they teach, even in restrictive States such as CA or NY. That town sounds a lot like the kind of place which would hire a Chief who'd later get fired for wanting to form a SWAT Team for the 2-man department. Just another Podunk Chief wanting to run with guys he knows about from the internet and uses his position and authority to buy his way into their good graces. But, hey, at least this Chief hasn't dove into any Baghdad ditches. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 7:29:26 PM EDT
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You forgot the invitations to the really cool SHOT Show parties. I imagine that in exchange for a reserve deputy position, with the privileges that carries under HR218, the reserve cops/travelling trainers teach a class nearby once a year (so the Chief can attend) and then do a "shift," which is nothing more than an armed ride-along with the Chief, followed by dinner and drinks at the Chief's house. The Chief gets some cool-guy training, gets to attend the best SHOT Show parties, and can rub elbows with his idols, both online and in real life. The cool guys get a shiny badge, some sexy, LE-only toys, and the ability to carry a loaded gun with normal capacity mags everywhere they teach, even in restrictive States such as CA or NY. That town sounds a lot like the kind of place which would hire a Chief who'd later get fired for wanting to form a SWAT Team for the 2-man department. Just another Podunk Chief wanting to run with guys he knows about from the internet and uses his position and authority to buy his way into their good graces. But, hey, at least this Chief hasn't dove into any Baghdad ditches. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do a Google Maps street view tour of Lake Arthur. The whole town is one step above a mud hut and requires zero full time and no reserve police officers. Chaves county SO could easily handle the towns policing needs. Another interesting deal is why they choose to have a city reserve program instead of using the New Mexico Mounted Patrol program. Program oversight at the podunk level vs. oversight at the state level? Things that make you go hmmmm... Chief probably gives out badges in exchange for free training. You forgot the invitations to the really cool SHOT Show parties. I imagine that in exchange for a reserve deputy position, with the privileges that carries under HR218, the reserve cops/travelling trainers teach a class nearby once a year (so the Chief can attend) and then do a "shift," which is nothing more than an armed ride-along with the Chief, followed by dinner and drinks at the Chief's house. The Chief gets some cool-guy training, gets to attend the best SHOT Show parties, and can rub elbows with his idols, both online and in real life. The cool guys get a shiny badge, some sexy, LE-only toys, and the ability to carry a loaded gun with normal capacity mags everywhere they teach, even in restrictive States such as CA or NY. That town sounds a lot like the kind of place which would hire a Chief who'd later get fired for wanting to form a SWAT Team for the 2-man department. Just another Podunk Chief wanting to run with guys he knows about from the internet and uses his position and authority to buy his way into their good graces. But, hey, at least this Chief hasn't dove into any Baghdad ditches. You can back up these accusations with facts, right? |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 7:41:50 PM EDT
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Do a Google Maps street view tour of Lake Arthur. The whole town is one step above a mud hut and requires zero full time and no reserve police officers. Chaves county SO could easily handle the towns policing needs. Another interesting deal is why they choose to have a city reserve program instead of using the New Mexico Mounted Patrol program. Program oversight at the podunk level vs. oversight at the state level? Things that make you go hmmmm... Chief probably gives out badges in exchange for free training. You forgot the invitations to the really cool SHOT Show parties. I imagine that in exchange for a reserve deputy position, with the privileges that carries under HR218, the reserve cops/travelling trainers teach a class nearby once a year (so the Chief can attend) and then do a "shift," which is nothing more than an armed ride-along with the Chief, followed by dinner and drinks at the Chief's house. The Chief gets some cool-guy training, gets to attend the best SHOT Show parties, and can rub elbows with his idols, both online and in real life. The cool guys get a shiny badge, some sexy, LE-only toys, and the ability to carry a loaded gun with normal capacity mags everywhere they teach, even in restrictive States such as CA or NY. That town sounds a lot like the kind of place which would hire a Chief who'd later get fired for wanting to form a SWAT Team for the 2-man department. Just another Podunk Chief wanting to run with guys he knows about from the internet and uses his position and authority to buy his way into their good graces. But, hey, at least this Chief hasn't dove into any Baghdad ditches. You can back up these accusations with facts, right? You'll note my use of the phrase "I imagine..." That phrase implies I'm thinking out loud, spitballing ideas, rather than making statements of fact. The very beginning of that paragraph clearly states the rest is conjecture, and nothing more. But, hey, whatever it takes to help you with your idolatry of an alleged drunken, brother-in-law-shooter. As for me, I've seen enough idiots in the military to just give someone a free pass simply because they put on the same uniform I wore and went to the same places I've been. If I were to do that, I'd have to excuse SGT Cloud, a former NCO from my old unit, who, during an argument with his wife, stuck the barrel of a shotgun in her mouth, made his 3-year old son put his finger on the trigger, and threatened to make the kid kill her. Doing stupid shit, especially with a gun, is not excused by past military service. If anything, someone with his kind of background ought to already be painfully aware that the time to pull out guns is not while shitfaced drunk. Instead of excusing his behavior because of his service, I prefer to use his military record as the reason to hold him to a higher standard. Twenty plus years in the military, especially in special operations units, should have instilled a lot more common sense into him. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:13:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:15:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:31:33 PM EDT
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The amount of purse swinging post whores trying to make themselves relevant by
kicking a man of substance in the REAL gun community is sickening. People that dont even shoot guns and/or even own any to begin with unless its an SKS or Tapcoed piece of shit DPMS or maybe a ragged ass XD and pop of a few rounds in a ditch and consider themselves experts. Douchebaggery at its pinnacle by a bunch of no count, closet democrats that have their collective heads stuck up their asses. If they only would open their eyes and see the fields of broken hearted dicks that they have sown. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:36:29 PM EDT
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In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? Not sure if ignorance or subterfuge. The reserve cop status has nothing to do with the Border Patrol academy being down the road. My guess is the Chief William Norwood - who is facebook friends with a lot of P&S folks and the instructors that make the circuit - is a TIer One jock sniffer and met Pressburg on LF or P&S and offered to hook him and his buddy up with creds. Maybe he met him at a Pat Rogers class. I don't know. But I seriously doubt Pressburg went to any sort of academy. Or maybe he's been handing out creds to former D-boys for a while and Pressburg is just one of many. Could be either one. Either way, Pressburg and guys like him aren't going Bum Fuck New Mexico to pull shifts as reserve cops. The Chief is hooking them up for carry privileges and the right to buy discounted/restricted firearms. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:40:17 PM EDT
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Not sure if ignorance or subterfuge. The reserve cop status has nothing to do with the Border Patrol academy being down the road. My guess is the Chief William Norwood - who is facebook friends with a lot of P&S folks and the instructors that make the circuit - is a TIer One jock sniffer and met Pressburg on LF or P&S and offered to hook him and his buddy up with creds. Maybe he met him at a Pat Rogers class. I don't know. But I seriously doubt Pressburg went to any sort of academy. Or maybe he's been handing out creds to former D-boys for a while and Pressburg is just one of many. Could be either one. Either way, Pressburg and guys like him aren't going Bum Fuck New Mexico to pull shifts as reserve cops. The Chief is hooking them up for carry privileges and the right to buy discounted/restricted firearms. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In this thread we find out who's never traveled in their lives. Lake Arthur is right up the road from Artesia, NM, home to a FLETC academy. Need someone to explain why people from across the country might know some of the reserve cops in the area? Not sure if ignorance or subterfuge. The reserve cop status has nothing to do with the Border Patrol academy being down the road. My guess is the Chief William Norwood - who is facebook friends with a lot of P&S folks and the instructors that make the circuit - is a TIer One jock sniffer and met Pressburg on LF or P&S and offered to hook him and his buddy up with creds. Maybe he met him at a Pat Rogers class. I don't know. But I seriously doubt Pressburg went to any sort of academy. Or maybe he's been handing out creds to former D-boys for a while and Pressburg is just one of many. Could be either one. Either way, Pressburg and guys like him aren't going Bum Fuck New Mexico to pull shifts as reserve cops. The Chief is hooking them up for carry privileges and the right to buy discounted/restricted firearms. This is it exactly. I've seen this several times in small town PDs. Chief gets the cool guy by association and the reserve guys get letterhead guns and carry privileges. Edit to add that the issue isn't Chucks BS reserve deputy status. The issue is being super drunk and then being incredibly reckless. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:43:24 PM EDT
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Didn't look like the way i had expected him to look. You should have seen him at the Danger Zone fundraising party at SHOT a couple of years back.... he looks totally different in his mug. My guess is that guys like him don't keep the same look for long. He'll come out of this ok if everything is on the up and up-and I expect it will be. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:44:29 PM EDT
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This is it exactly. I've seen this several times in small town PDs. Chief gets the cool guy by association and the reserve guys get letterhead guns and carry privileges. So what. Who cares. If it bothers you that much: Pack an extra Tampon |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:56:26 PM EDT
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Not sure if ignorance or subterfuge. The reserve cop status has nothing to do with the Border Patrol academy being down the road. My guess is the Chief William Norwood - who is facebook friends with a lot of P&S folks and the instructors that make the circuit - is a TIer One jock sniffer and met Pressburg on LF or P&S and offered to hook him and his buddy up with creds. Maybe he met him at a Pat Rogers class. I don't know. But I seriously doubt Pressburg went to any sort of academy. Or maybe he's been handing out creds to former D-boys for a while and Pressburg is just one of many. Could be either one. Either way, Pressburg and guys like him aren't going Bum Fuck New Mexico to pull shifts as reserve cops. The Chief is hooking them up for carry privileges and the right to buy discounted/restricted firearms. I don't have a problem with any of that. More people carrying the better on average. Shooting somebody is a whole different matter, drunk or sober. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:58:44 PM EDT
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So what. Who cares. If it bothers you that much: Pack an extra Tampon |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:59:01 PM EDT
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This is it exactly. I've seen this several times in small town PDs. Chief gets the cool guy by association and the reserve guys get letterhead guns and carry privileges. So what. Who cares. If it bothers you that much: Pack an extra Tampon What's your problem princess? Did you find out that your boyfriend / idol is a reckless drunk? |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:01:23 PM EDT
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This is it exactly. I've seen this several times in small town PDs. Chief gets the cool guy by association and the reserve guys get letterhead guns and carry privileges. So what. Who cares. If it bothers you that much: Pack an extra Tampon Yeah. What kind of people aren't for people using connections to government influence to do shit that is illegal for everyone else? Given this I hope the victim sues the police department for failure to supervise and owns that shitty little town. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:03:57 PM EDT
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The amount of purse swinging post whores trying to make themselves relevant by kicking a man of substance in the REAL gun community is sickening. People that dont even shoot guns and/or even own any to begin with unless its an SKS or Tapcoed piece of shit DPMS or maybe a ragged ass XD and pop of a few rounds in a ditch and consider themselves experts. Douchebaggery at its pinnacle by a bunch of no count, closet democrats that have their collective heads stuck up their asses. If they only would open their eyes and see the fields of broken hearted dicks that they have sown. why the white knighting? You can build a hundred bridges, but fuck one goat and you're not a bridge builder you're a goatfucker. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:05:02 PM EDT
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What's your problem princess? Did you find out that your boyfriend / idol is a reckless drunk?
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