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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:03:45 PM EDT
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Don't buy anything they built after Feb 10, 2016, there may be some defects not good for your house. Just sayin' And how would you know this? |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:03:56 PM EDT
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Atleast move to a free state and keep the jobs in the states. Well played. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many of you remember the 92 debates between Perot and Gore?? Gore was saying NAFTA would bring the worlds wages up to our level,while Perot was saying they would bring ours down,along with the giant sucking sound of jobs leaving the country. "No one could have seen this coming"   |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:04:15 PM EDT
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It's not the wages that are killing them, its the Obamacare, taxes, regulations, etc, etc.
What they should have said was "Well, if the government didn't keep choking us with taxes and regulations, we would be able to stay." |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:04:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There shouldnt be any minimum wage. If the market commands a certain hourly wage then it's capitalism. Look at singapore - they dont have a minmum wage. All their service sector McJobs consist of elderly and teens. Able bodied adults have to work on their skills and get a job that supports their families. None of this lazy FSA work 20 hours a week and get gov aid BS Totally different cultures unfortunately. If you look at the history of why the min wage was enacted, you'll find that many American employers were hell bent on paying as little as possible and not on actual worth of labor. Industries would actively collude with competitors to keep wages low |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:05:22 PM EDT
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It's not the wages that are killing them, its the Obamacare, taxes, regulations, etc, etc. What they should have said was "Well, if the government didn't keep choking us with taxes and regulations, we would be able to stay." You forgot Social Security. 
But hey...that's Your money. 
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:06:47 PM EDT
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Wage controls, like any other price controls, are socialist, central planning that inappropriately skew market forces. If the planners keep artificially inflating wages beyond what the economy of a particular industry can support, it cannot survive and the industry will migrate to a location in which it can survive or it will die.
Sounds to me like Carrier was not putting $5.85 out there as an offer, but as an explanation that it cannot survive if it stays because prevailing wage rates make it impossible. Private industry does not send jobs away; SJWs in central planning positions of power do. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:07:19 PM EDT
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That $5 figure is from shady Union reps, not Carrier.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:07:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You forgot Social Security. But hey...that's Your money. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's not the wages that are killing them, its the Obamacare, taxes, regulations, etc, etc. What they should have said was "Well, if the government didn't keep choking us with taxes and regulations, we would be able to stay." You forgot Social Security. But hey...that's Your money. Employers have to match it. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:09:07 PM EDT
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This is a prime example of how "free" trade is affecting the US. Because the trade is only free on imports coming into the US, while our products have huge tariffs going into other countries. That is when you start having companies making decisions like Carrier did. How can a company compete against other companies that have a labor cost that is only 25% of yours, and they don't have to pay Social Security, Medicare, FICA or any medical insurance? They keep on doing whatever it takes to stay in business until it reaches the point of moving manufacturing or closing the doors. Either way, those jobs are gone at that point.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:09:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model.  Bring back tariffs. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:10:31 PM EDT
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Clinton, you mean. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many of you remember the 92 debates between Perot and Gore?? Gore was saying NAFTA would bring the worlds wages up to our level,while Perot was saying they would bring ours down,along with the giant sucking sound of jobs leaving the country. "No one could have seen this coming" No,Gore.Not actual candidate debates-they debated several times on tv shows and news programs.Perot was always mocked because of his charts,but he was right on the money for this shit. Common sense-why would a company stay here and pay all the extra costs/deal with the BS here,when they can go to Mexico or China and pay peanuts and not deal with all the gov BS? Clinton and Bush were for it too. Too late to fix shit now anyway..... |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:10:49 PM EDT
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In this thread - Liberals
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:10:50 PM EDT
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Competing against Chicom imports and Americans who want cheap shit. Maybe it's time Americans reexamine how we spend our money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model. Competing against Chicom imports and Americans who want cheap shit. Maybe it's time Americans reexamine how we spend our money. We aren't talking socks and underwear. These are air conditioners, refer units for trailers, is there even a Chinese competitor shipping units stateside? Where are others in this industry built? |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:11:08 PM EDT
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Atleast move to a free state and keep the jobs in the states.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:11:58 PM EDT
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The union is the one who released the "quote". The union is the ones who are causing the problems. Fuck them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/call-6-carrier-said-it-might-stay-if-workers-cut-their-pay-to-585-an-hour Call 6 Investigates found out that during those talks Carrier apparently told the union they could possibly stay if the workers agreed to cut their pay from about $23 an hour to $5.85 an hour. Carrier is supposed to save about $65 million a year when it moves to Mexico in 2017. The union is the one who released the "quote". The union is the ones who are causing the problems. Fuck them. Says the beneficiary of cartel labor policies. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:12:10 PM EDT
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This is a prime example of how "free" trade is affecting the US. Because the trade is only free on imports coming into the US, while our products have huge tariffs going into other countries. That is when you start having companies making decisions like Carrier did. How can a company compete against other companies that have a labor cost that is only 25% of yours, and they don't have to pay Social Security, Medicare, FICA or any medical insurance? They keep on doing whatever it takes to stay in business until it reaches the point of moving manufacturing or closing the doors. Either way, those jobs are gone at that point. If only someone could have warned us about this 25 years ago...................
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:13:00 PM EDT
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http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/call-6-carrier-said-it-might-stay-if-workers-cut-their-pay-to-585-an-hour Call 6 Investigates found out that during those talks Carrier apparently told the union they could possibly stay if the workers agreed to cut their pay from about $23 an hour to $5.85 an hour. Carrier is supposed to save about $65 million a year when it moves to Mexico in 2017. No, they won't. They will run into tons of issues setting up their Maquiladoras, just like everyone else. Maybe they should ask Rheem about the costs involved. The labor costs themselves aren't worth moving into MX for, although I'm not sure that putting up with union bullshit is any better than dealing with the corruption and other issues with labor in MX. Kind of like asking someone if they'd rather have an anvil dropped on their nutsack or penis. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:13:29 PM EDT
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I agree. A min. wage tells the business what it has to pay you not what the market should pay you. Get rid of min. wage and see how many jobs offer more money because they have to in order to employ people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There shouldnt be any minimum wage. If the market commands a certain hourly wage then it's capitalism. Look at singapore - they dont have a minmum wage. All their service sector McJobs consist of elderly and teens. Able bodied adults have to work on their skills and get a job that supports their families. None of this lazy FSA work 20 hours a week and get gov aid BS I agree. A min. wage tells the business what it has to pay you not what the market should pay you. Get rid of min. wage and see how many jobs offer more money because they have to in order to employ people. The only problem with your theory is immigration. Legal or illegal, visas, etc will devalue the workforce. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:13:42 PM EDT
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Wtf we should force them to come back 
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:14:07 PM EDT
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Free Trade bro.... we should in no way prevent China from exporting their slave wage built shit boxes to the US. Bring back tariffs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model. Bring back tariffs. too late Should have been equal tariffs from the start. No one put America first,and now the chickens have come home to roost. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:14:14 PM EDT
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You should read the story. The statement from Carrier addresses the $5.85 claim as impossible. It's the union manipulating things. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who the fuck would authorize this statement? On what planet would this sort of statement garner support for the company? They need to fire their PR rep. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You should read the story. The statement from Carrier addresses the $5.85 claim as impossible. It's the union manipulating things. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Exactly. They weren't suggesting it. They were saying that $5.85 an hour without benefits is essentially their costs for Mexico...and if they have to pay any more in the US, their costs will be higher. It's parent, United Technologies, is a publicly traded company, so many would say they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to minimize costs and maximize profit while maintaining or increasing market share. I'm not a finance guy, but that's the type of stuff I usually hear. They didn't define the US corporate tax rates, trade policies, or other government regulations. They are just operating under them and trying to do as well as possible given those constraints. Keep in mind, they aren't guaranteed to stay in business. I imagine competition from overseas is fierce. I am sure they evaluated the trade offs between the lower costs and negative public perception. The negative public perception will fade. The cost savings will likely convey well into the future, until there is a change in Mexican regulations or trade policy. It remains to be seen if the decision will impact federal contracting opportunities. They are a business, not a charity. Of course socialists like Bernie Sanders disagree. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:14:28 PM EDT
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Economics: Stumping arfcom since 2007.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:15:52 PM EDT
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Union jobs getting outsourced?
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:16:00 PM EDT
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How many of you remember the 92 debates between Perot and Gore?? Gore was saying NAFTA would bring the worlds wages up to our level,while Perot was saying they would bring ours down,along with the giant sucking sound of jobs leaving the country. "No one could have seen this coming" 
That crazy rich guy nailed it. He was right all along, and now the horses are out of the barn, off the ranch, and the barn roof blew off. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:16:03 PM EDT
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And how would you know this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't buy anything they built after Feb 10, 2016, there may be some defects not good for your house. Just sayin' And how would you know this? I think he's saying that because that's likely the day they announced the move to the workers. Hence quality may go to shit. Edit- I misunderstood your question. Here you go. carrier dates |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:16:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before weird angry arfcom guys say that $5.85 is a perfectly fine wage. If younwant them to stay, reign in the federal .gov. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:16:28 PM EDT
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Exactly. They weren't suggesting it. They were saying that $5.85 an hour without benefits is essentially their costs for Mexico...and if they have to pay any more in the US, their costs will be higher. Benefits expense with Mexico labor can be SUBSTANTIAL. Also, compliance and financing costs are generally higher than in the U.S. There are also some risk-associated factors to the business that increase in Mexico (certain exit costs, etc). It's not just the corruption and shitty quality. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:16:29 PM EDT
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Exactly. They weren't suggesting it. They were saying that $5.85 an hour without benefits is essentially their costs for Mexico...and if they have to pay any more in the US, their costs will be higher. It's parent, United Technologies, is a publicly traded company, so many would say they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to minimize costs and maximize profit while maintaining or increasing market share. I'm not a finance guy, but that's the type of stuff I usually hear. They didn't define the US corporate tax rates, trade policies, or other government regulations. They are just operating under them and trying to do as well as possible given those constraints. Keep in mind, they aren't guaranteed to stay in business. I imagine competition from overseas is fierce. I am sure they evaluate the trade offs between the lower costs and negative public perception. It remains to be seen if the decision will impact federal contracting opportunities. They are a business, not a charity. Of course socialists like Bernie Sanders disagree. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who the fuck would authorize this statement? On what planet would this sort of statement garner support for the company? They need to fire their PR rep. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You should read the story. The statement from Carrier addresses the $5.85 claim as impossible. It's the union manipulating things. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Exactly. They weren't suggesting it. They were saying that $5.85 an hour without benefits is essentially their costs for Mexico...and if they have to pay any more in the US, their costs will be higher. It's parent, United Technologies, is a publicly traded company, so many would say they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to minimize costs and maximize profit while maintaining or increasing market share. I'm not a finance guy, but that's the type of stuff I usually hear. They didn't define the US corporate tax rates, trade policies, or other government regulations. They are just operating under them and trying to do as well as possible given those constraints. Keep in mind, they aren't guaranteed to stay in business. I imagine competition from overseas is fierce. I am sure they evaluate the trade offs between the lower costs and negative public perception. It remains to be seen if the decision will impact federal contracting opportunities. They are a business, not a charity. Of course socialists like Bernie Sanders disagree. We don't take too kindly to you logical types 'round here |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:17:16 PM EDT
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I'll work for 5.85 if you sell your 4 ton heat pump systems for $200
See how that works. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:17:29 PM EDT
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Maybe it's all up for negotiation now? Nobody can live off that wage. Maybe they'll negotiate with union or workers to drop the union. Who knows?
It sounds like they're a shitty company anyways. They want to use some clueless Mexican or some clueless kid here to make their junk. Move to Mexico and get hit by a big tariff when you send that shit back over here. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:18:12 PM EDT
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Totally different cultures unfortunately. If you look at the history of why the min wage was enacted, you'll find that many American employers were hell bent on paying as little as possible and not on actual worth of labor. Industries would actively collude with competitors to keep wages low Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There shouldnt be any minimum wage. If the market commands a certain hourly wage then it's capitalism. Look at singapore - they dont have a minmum wage. All their service sector McJobs consist of elderly and teens. Able bodied adults have to work on their skills and get a job that supports their families. None of this lazy FSA work 20 hours a week and get gov aid BS Totally different cultures unfortunately. If you look at the history of why the min wage was enacted, you'll find that many American employers were hell bent on paying as little as possible and not on actual worth of labor. Industries would actively collude with competitors to keep wages low A few tech companies got busted in the last 5 years for collusion to prevent workers from switching jobs, wage fixing. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:19:04 PM EDT
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Holy Shit! $23.00 an hour in Ohio? WTF, everyone must be driving Escalades and eating lobster.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:19:48 PM EDT
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I think I read here that Carrier commercial systems are like 30% cheaper than most other ones. I don't know about the quality but it sounds like they want to stay in that category. Like Goodman on residential.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:20:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There shouldnt be any minimum wage. If the market commands a certain hourly wage then it's capitalism. Look at singapore - they dont have a minmum wage. All their service sector McJobs consist of elderly and teens. Able bodied adults have to work on their skills and get a job that supports their families. None of this lazy FSA work 20 hours a week and get gov aid BS |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:21:35 PM EDT
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No, they won't. They will run into tons of issues setting up their Maquiladoras, just like everyone else. Maybe they should ask Rheem about the costs involved. The labor costs themselves aren't worth moving into MX for, although I'm not sure that putting up with union bullshit is any better than dealing with the corruption and other issues with labor in MX. Kind of like asking someone if they'd rather have an anvil dropped on their nutsack or penis. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/call-6-carrier-said-it-might-stay-if-workers-cut-their-pay-to-585-an-hour Call 6 Investigates found out that during those talks Carrier apparently told the union they could possibly stay if the workers agreed to cut their pay from about $23 an hour to $5.85 an hour. Carrier is supposed to save about $65 million a year when it moves to Mexico in 2017. No, they won't. They will run into tons of issues setting up their Maquiladoras, just like everyone else. Maybe they should ask Rheem about the costs involved. The labor costs themselves aren't worth moving into MX for, although I'm not sure that putting up with union bullshit is any better than dealing with the corruption and other issues with labor in MX. Kind of like asking someone if they'd rather have an anvil dropped on their nutsack or penis. Rheem does have a plant in Mexico. I know because I handle the warranty side of replacing the shit parts from Mexico 
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:25:35 PM EDT
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Wage controls, like any other price controls, are socialist, central planning that inappropriately skew market forces. If the planners keep artificially inflating wages beyond what the economy of a particular industry can support, it cannot survive and the industry will migrate to a location in which it can survive or it will die. Sounds to me like Carrier was not putting $5.85 out there as an offer, but as an explanation that it cannot survive if it stays because prevailing wage rates make it impossible. Private industry does not send jobs away; SJWs in central planning positions of power do.
The truth of the matter is that It's hard to compete with labor in countries where they pay $3 an hour. I have been watching companies leave the USA and set up factories in 3rd world countries my entire life. Every shithole city in the USA used to be full of factory workers. That's why it became a city in the first place - because a guy could leave the farm and make 10X as much money running a lathe. And now job after job is being exported. Where will it end? It will end with millions of broke-ass people voting for socialism. We don't have a crystal pure Ayn Rand capitalist society. We have a lopsided mess that resembles the soviet union more and more every year. The problem with you guys is that you are ideologues. And ideologues usually end up saying that 1+1=3 in order to get their simplified world view to work. It's the same deal with liberals. Ask a liberal why the inner cities are shitholes, he'll say that it's because white people are oppressing everyone. Not because of the culture of dependency, or the lack of good paying jobs. It doesn't matter that it makes no sense at all, but it makes the liberal feel good to say it. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:27:26 PM EDT
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Singapore is pretty fascist and not exactly the beacon of economic or personal freedom I'd want to emulate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There shouldnt be any minimum wage. If the market commands a certain hourly wage then it's capitalism. Look at singapore - they dont have a minmum wage. All their service sector McJobs consist of elderly and teens. Able bodied adults have to work on their skills and get a job that supports their families. None of this lazy FSA work 20 hours a week and get gov aid BS He's right about the rest though. Minimum wage jobs are there to give you experience and move on,not raise a family on. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:27:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Says the beneficiary of cartel labor policies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/call-6-carrier-said-it-might-stay-if-workers-cut-their-pay-to-585-an-hour Call 6 Investigates found out that during those talks Carrier apparently told the union they could possibly stay if the workers agreed to cut their pay from about $23 an hour to $5.85 an hour. Carrier is supposed to save about $65 million a year when it moves to Mexico in 2017. The union is the one who released the "quote". The union is the ones who are causing the problems. Fuck them. Says the beneficiary of cartel labor policies. Cartel? Yeah you're right...unions are indeed cartels. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:29:56 PM EDT
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The truth of the matter is that It's hard to compete with labor in countries where they pay $3 an hour. I have been watching companies leave the USA and set up factories in 3rd world countries my entire life. Every shithole city in the USA used to be full of factory workers. That's why it became a city in the first place - because a guy could leave the farm and make 10X as much money running a lathe. And now job after job is being exported. Where will it end? It will end with millions of broke-ass people voting for socialism. We don't have a crystal pure Ayn Rand capitalist society. We have a lopsided mess that resembles the soviet union more and more every year. The problem with you guys is that you are ideologues. And ideologues usually end up saying that 1+1=3 in order to get their simplified world view to work. It's the same deal with liberals. Ask a liberal why the inner cities are shitholes, he'll say that it's because white people are oppressing everyone. Not because of the culture of dependency, or the lack of good paying jobs. It doesn't matter that it makes no sense at all, but it makes the liberal feel good to say it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wage controls, like any other price controls, are socialist, central planning that inappropriately skew market forces. If the planners keep artificially inflating wages beyond what the economy of a particular industry can support, it cannot survive and the industry will migrate to a location in which it can survive or it will die. Sounds to me like Carrier was not putting $5.85 out there as an offer, but as an explanation that it cannot survive if it stays because prevailing wage rates make it impossible. Private industry does not send jobs away; SJWs in central planning positions of power do.
The truth of the matter is that It's hard to compete with labor in countries where they pay $3 an hour. I have been watching companies leave the USA and set up factories in 3rd world countries my entire life. Every shithole city in the USA used to be full of factory workers. That's why it became a city in the first place - because a guy could leave the farm and make 10X as much money running a lathe. And now job after job is being exported. Where will it end? It will end with millions of broke-ass people voting for socialism. We don't have a crystal pure Ayn Rand capitalist society. We have a lopsided mess that resembles the soviet union more and more every year. The problem with you guys is that you are ideologues. And ideologues usually end up saying that 1+1=3 in order to get their simplified world view to work. It's the same deal with liberals. Ask a liberal why the inner cities are shitholes, he'll say that it's because white people are oppressing everyone. Not because of the culture of dependency, or the lack of good paying jobs. It doesn't matter that it makes no sense at all, but it makes the liberal feel good to say it. Yep,saw lots leave in western NY and Pennsylvania. I don't see it ever coming back either-that ship sailed long ago. Interesting times.............. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:31:53 PM EDT
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I have two Carrier heat pumps at the moment. My parents and I have always gone Carrier. No mas. They have offloaded their warranty fulfillment onto a third party.
Esto se va a poner de la chigada! 
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:42:02 PM EDT
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... that's mean to even suggest it Not really. If workers (and unions) want to elect governments that enact price controls on the thing that the workers sell - their labor - then they deserve what they get. If American workers wanted to stay competitive by charging a premium by doing the sorts of things that third world numbskulls can't do consistently, then they shouldn't have embarked on a multi-decade project to ratchet up the minimum wage. All that did was inflate the already higher price for their work without giving them any permanent increase in buying power. They sold their industries and jobs for magic beans. Morons. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:45:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't buy anything they built after Feb 10, 2016, there may be some defects not good for your house. Just sayin' Hmm. Buy a possibly sabotaged product built by a union thug or a product built by a mexican making a decent wage in his country. I'm really torn up about this move to mexico. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:46:28 PM EDT
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Sad part is their prices won't drop.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:48:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ... that's mean to even suggest it I think it's awesome. Fuck the unions. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:48:42 PM EDT
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If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model. And cut the fvck out of your bloated management ranks and salaries. [said no management MF EVER] |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:50:12 PM EDT
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I made $23 an hour working as a syndication analyst for a major bank
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:50:18 PM EDT
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In before weird angry arfcom guys say that $5.85 is a perfectly fine wage. "The market" |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:50:56 PM EDT
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Are people on as assembly line making AC units really making 32hr ? Is that the wage or entire package ?
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:52:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What fucking retard would even suggest something so fucking stupid? It's honestly just a fuck you to all of the people they will be firing. This. Does this include Carriers CEO and board of directors new wage? No. A 30% tax on our Carrier made products in Mexico which re-enter the US will help dampen the CEO and board of directors "fuck America" attitude. In which those collected tax funds will go towards tax cuts for business's who remain pro-American. The working people in Indiana have a clear choice soon as to whether to support "free trade" like Carrier and Disney have embraced, expand NAFTA into Asia, making a super NAFTA called TPP, expand H1B visas to 500,000 per year (there goes the "educated" voters jobs)...or vote for someone who wants to stop this anti-American pro-Globalist BS. We shall soon see if they choose wisely like the majority of American workers so far. |
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