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Posted: 3/28/2017 6:38:48 AM EDT
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This is interesting and new info to me. I always wondered how they prevent the dial from losing contact. I've seen several RDS fail due to heavy use and loose selector. Good call, Aimpoint.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 6:39:20 AM EDT
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 6:39:35 AM EDT
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Are you saying that all the way left is off, or it's the dimmest NV setting? |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 6:50:08 AM EDT
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No, they do not have switches. You buy it and when it goes dark you throw it away. 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:00:16 AM EDT
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Jesus Tapdancing Christ
If only there were some sort of website with a user manual available online. It might even contain the line "Switch, dot brightness: 10 pos. 1 Off, 9 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright" |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:08:05 AM EDT
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If only there were some sort of website with a user manual available online. It might even contain the line "Switch, dot brightness: 10 pos. 1 Off, 9 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright"  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:29:30 AM EDT
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OP, what is the alternative sight you would consider?
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:35:27 AM EDT
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After reading this thread I am glad I don't have an Aimpoint.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:36:39 AM EDT
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Anyone who wants to turn off their Aimpoint is gay.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:41:04 AM EDT
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Jesus Tapdancing Christ
If only there were some sort of website with a user manual available online. It might even contain the line "Switch, dot brightness: 10 pos. 1 Off, 9 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright" 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:57:02 AM EDT
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The Pro doesn't have an Off position Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If only there were some sort of website with a user manual available online. It might even contain the line "Switch, dot brightness: 10 pos. 1 Off, 9 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright" So I guess there isn't. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 8:23:41 AM EDT
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I copied straight out of the manual, so their website is not consistent with the pdf. So I guess there isn't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If only there were some sort of website with a user manual available online. It might even contain the line "Switch, dot brightness: 10 pos. 1 Off, 9 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright" So I guess there isn't.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 8:41:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2017 8:56:13 AM EDT
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Only way to tell is to measure current draw on the lowest setting.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:07:42 AM EDT
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I had one when they first came out and have since replaced it with an ACOG, so I can't go check. But, I assumed it turned off when I turned the dial all the way left. Very easily could have been just the lowest NV setting. So, to answer your question, I don't know.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:09:43 AM EDT
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Does anyone have NVD who can turn the dial all the way left, then examine it with NVD?
The documentation that people are referencing says "OFF" but I wonder if Aimpoint really means "OFF" in quotes to indicate that it's a practical "OFF" and not a dead-OFF. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:16:11 AM EDT
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Only way to tell is to measure current draw on the lowest setting. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:17:55 AM EDT
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Read this thread. One guy says it turns off, another says it just dims. Are you 100% certain that it turns off? How many clicks are there on the dial? Therein lies your answer. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:26:46 AM EDT
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:27:22 AM EDT
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Does anyone have NVD who can turn the dial all the way left, then examine it with NVD? The documentation that people are referencing says "OFF" but I wonder if Aimpoint really means "OFF" in quotes to indicate that it's a practical "OFF" and not a dead-OFF. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:32:19 AM EDT
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Holy shit. This is getting more and more ridiculous. I'm actually proposing a scientific experiment. Something concrete, and repeatable. If I told you the sky was blue in the earth's instruction manual, would you just assume it's blue, or would you look at the sky and observe that it's blue? ETA Clearly it was designed to run constantly... Without giving the owner the option to turn it off. Is there a practical benefit to this? Does making one of the notches an OFF position weaken there optic somehow? Does that create the possibility that recoil could trip the optic off? Why make it this way? |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:41:42 AM EDT
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Are you saying that all the way left is off, or it's the dimmest NV setting? |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:45:14 AM EDT
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I thought turning the knob all the way to the left turns it off???? |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:49:01 AM EDT
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Go be poor somewhere else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:52:08 AM EDT
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." Your rifle, your choice. My rifle, my choice. There is a reason why you don't see Chicom POS optics being used in the real world by people that matter. "Oh, but the vendors have really good CS." 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:54:28 AM EDT
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Read this thread. One guy says it turns off, another says it just dims. Are you 100% certain that it turns off? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Aimpoint pro has an off setting. Not sure why that's hard to figure out Are you 100% certain that it turns off?
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:55:01 AM EDT
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Cute...Chicom sights. Your rifle, your choice. My rifle, my choice. There is a reason why you don't see Chicom POS optics being used in the real world by people that matter. "Oh, but the vendors have really good CS." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." Your rifle, your choice. My rifle, my choice. There is a reason why you don't see Chicom POS optics being used in the real world by people that matter. "Oh, but the vendors have really good CS." |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:55:27 AM EDT
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Sure. I guess a mechanical switch that has to be rotated all the time to get the correct brightness will wear much longer than an electronic diode or software or what have you that has no moving parts. I just think Aimpoint is not keeping up with the market like they should. I expect in a year or less they will unveil yet another Tier 1 sight that will have auto on/auto off and auto adjust brightness (like at least one model of "cheap Chinese junk") and it will be proclaimed as the Second Coming of Christ by this site while loud exclamations of "that's the most awesome feature evar!!!111!!!" thrust forth. In addition to hordes of basement dwellers blowing cash on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:03:07 AM EDT
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." This is a non issue. Also, an auto on/off is just adding complexity where it isn't needed. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:04:26 AM EDT
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I just took my PVS-14 and looked through one of my Pro's. At the far most left position, there is no dot visible. 1 click right, and the dot is visible. So either my -14 is broken, or the far left position is not a NV setting.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:04:39 AM EDT
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The Aimpoint pro has an off setting. Not sure why that's hard to figure out |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:06:55 AM EDT
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." Sounds reasonable. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:07:50 AM EDT
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Mine have always turned off. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:08:34 AM EDT
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I have NV and wondered why I could still see the dot with my Aimpoint M3 turned "off". It was very dim but still visible through the PVS-14. Then I read one of these threads a few years ago and learned that they do not actually have an "OFF" setting but rather a lowest NV setting.
I assume that the PRO is the same way. I may try it tonight if I'm bored. In the manual, it states that the ML3 has an OFF setting and 9 brightness settings. The ML models do not have NV capability but have obviously more daytime visible options. My question is...is the PRO a re-named M2 (but with 2MOA dot) or an M3 (but with shorter battery life 30K rather than 50K)?? Or is the PRO made cheaper somehow and is not the same as either the M2 or M3. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:10:54 AM EDT
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." OP: To answer your question there is no off, and one isn't needed. The furthest left is the dimmest night vision setting. That tiny bit of power going through the LED will not effect it's life, and the battery draw is near the natural discharge rate of the battery. It uses almost no energy at the lowest setting. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:13:11 AM EDT
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Read this thread. One guy says it turns off, another says it just dims. Are you 100% certain that it turns off? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Aimpoint pro has an off setting. Not sure why that's hard to figure out Are you 100% certain that it turns off? 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:15:32 AM EDT
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What is the expected LED life of an Aimpoint?
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:24:35 AM EDT
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Jesus Tapdancing Christ
If only there were some sort of website with a user manual available online. It might even contain the line "Switch, dot brightness: 10 pos. 1 Off, 9 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright" Quote HistoryQuoted:
Jesus Tapdancing Christ
If only there were some sort of website with a user manual available online. It might even contain the line "Switch, dot brightness: 10 pos. 1 Off, 9 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright" You can embed links, but fail at copying the correct paragraphs, just adding more confusion. That is what the knob does on non-nightvision compatible models.
The PRO is Night Vision Compatible 10 positions: 4 NVD**, 6 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright ** NVD: Night Vision Device |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:27:33 AM EDT
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What is the expected LED life of an Aimpoint? |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:45:36 AM EDT
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I know Aimpoint being mentioned always creates a real swooning, head over heels in love circlejerkfest on this site but you would think for the huge sums that Aimpoint charges for these sights they would engineer them to, oh I don't know, turn on with movement and turn off after 10 minutes of no movement? Wouldn't that be even better instead of having to leave a sight on continuously? Its a shame that much lower priced, yet equally or better performing, Chinese made sights do just that, along with the 30,000-50,000 hr battery life in addition to auto/auto off. But they don't say AIMPOINT on the side so they are unimportant and for people who need to "go be poor somewhere else." |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:00:28 AM EDT
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Can you show me, on the doll, where the Aimpoint touched you? 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:06:56 AM EDT
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My Micro, the old silver one has been on setting 6 since I mounted it sometime around 2011 when they were discontinued...
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:20:37 AM EDT
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From the PRO model field guide: 10 positions: 4 NVD**, 6 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:34:03 AM EDT
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From the PRO model field guide:10 positions: 4 NVD**, 6 daylight of which 1 Extra Bright
http://us.aimpoint.com/fileadmin/user_upload/2015_Web_Content/Product_PDFs/User_Manuals/Sights/Comp_Series/13648-2_Manual_PRO_QuickRef_ENG_LoRes.pdf |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:35:57 AM EDT
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After reading this thread I am glad I don't have an Aimpoint. 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:45:46 AM EDT
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After reading this thread I am glad I don't have an Aimpoint. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:52:16 AM EDT
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I have an original Comp M that has been working flawlessly for many many years of abuse and neglect. Its been hit, banged around the truck, dropped, painted and stripped. Just replace the battery every so often and she keeps on ticking.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:57:06 AM EDT
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I just took my PVS-14 and looked through one of my Pro's. At the far most left position, there is no dot visible. 1 click right, and the dot is visible. So either my -14 is broken, or the far left position is not a NV setting. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 12:11:32 PM EDT
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Photo was taken with my cellphone.
Some cameras will pick up better than others and filming video of it will show it even better. Dot is white in the distance and setting is all the way to the left on the Aimpoint Pro. Hope that helps. 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 12:12:39 PM EDT
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In this thread we learn who doesn't own an Aimpoint but gives info/advice about them.
Also who doesn't under stand underdriven LED lifespand (think longer than you should care about) Auto ON/OFF circuits consume power 100% of the time and include electrical devices that have a fail % higher than a underdriven LED that is always on. On a side note, the action of turning on an electrical device is usually what kills them. You are better off leaving them on if power consumption and lack of heat build up allow it. If you really want an Off position get a Comp C3, they also have a longer On time than the PRO just no NV |
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