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Posted: 1/19/2017 11:09:10 PM EDT

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No honest man needs the capability of a binary trigger

Posted: 1/19/2017 11:14:26 PM EDT

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I'm sure they're fun to shoot but I'd expect the novelty to wear off rather quickly. No thanks.

Posted: 1/19/2017 11:20:43 PM EDT

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Bought a BFS III at full price. No regrets. Keeps the neighbors on edge.

Posted: 1/19/2017 11:22:05 PM EDT

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I'm sure they're fun to shoot but I'd expect the novelty to wear off rather quickly. No thanks.

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Bumpfire stock wears off after a couple of mags so not any difference there.

Posted: 1/19/2017 11:48:24 PM EDT

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None here. They all work in Media and Government.

Posted: 1/20/2017 1:02:38 AM EDT

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We got in 12 Echo triggers and have already sold 11. No complaints so far. Business partner got one and he said "IT ROCKS!!"

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Where'd you get them from? I ordered 4-5 at the CSSI dealer show last fall but haven't seen them yet.

Posted: 1/20/2017 1:06:11 AM EDT

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Why can't it be an expensive waste of money that is also awesome and you should get one.

shit, that's Harley-Davidson's business model

Posted: 1/20/2017 1:45:40 AM EDT

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Why can't it be an expensive waste of money that is also awesome and you should get one.

shit, that's Harley-Davidson's business model

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Well I do own and have spent a shit ton on extras for my Harley so-

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Posted: 1/20/2017 1:58:38 AM EDT

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Treat it like a MG in the third mode and you won't have issues.

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Except for the whole bonus round when you release the trigger for the last time. For dirt-shooting on YouTube, that's fine. For anything else, hell no.

Posted: 1/20/2017 2:07:20 AM EDT

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Neater than SHIT 30 ROUND dump before the first empty brass hits the ground

Posted: 1/20/2017 3:00:37 AM EDT

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I think I'll build a double-rifle crank operated firearm.

Posted: 1/20/2017 4:52:06 AM EDT

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Except for the whole bonus round when you release the trigger for the last time. For dirt-shooting on YouTube, that's fine. For anything else, hell no.

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Do you hold down a mg trigger while you point it at things you don't intend to destroy?

Posted: 1/20/2017 8:52:54 AM EDT

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Well I do own and have spent a shit ton on extras for my Harley so-

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Echo or a Power Commander/SE tuner.....dilemmas dilemmas

Posted: 1/20/2017 8:53:22 AM EDT

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Do you hold down a mg trigger while you point it at things you don't intend to destroy?

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does your MG fire again after you release the trigger?

Posted: 1/20/2017 8:58:08 AM EDT

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Get both. Binary Trigger + Bump Fire Stock =

Posted: 1/20/2017 9:01:18 AM EDT

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Looks like if I want to get into the game .it will be with the ECHO trigger.
Franklin doesn't allow sale to residents of Iowa.
Fosttech does.

Posted: 1/20/2017 9:02:55 AM EDT

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Get both. Binary Trigger + Bump Fire Stock =

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Posted: 1/20/2017 9:20:42 AM EDT

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Are you responsible for every round that leaves the barrel?

Are you committed to shooting two rounds every time you pull the trigger regardless of what's going on down range?

Stupid shit.

Posted: 1/20/2017 9:25:04 AM EDT

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Are you responsible for every round that leaves the barrel?

Are you committed to shooting two rounds every time you pull the trigger regardless of what's going on down range?

Stupid shit.

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You know what's really stupid?

Commenting on something you absolutely have no clue about.

Posted: 1/20/2017 9:44:32 AM EDT

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You know what's really stupid?

Commenting on something you absolutely have no clue about.

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Have fun with your toy and lawsuit.

Posted: 1/20/2017 9:54:31 AM EDT

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Are you responsible for every round that leaves the barrel?

Are you committed to shooting two rounds every time you pull the trigger regardless of what's going on down range?

Stupid shit.

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So you are opposed to MGs with 3 round bursts?

Posted: 1/20/2017 9:58:32 AM EDT

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So you are opposed to MGs with 3 round bursts?

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How did that work out in practice? How much liability (and ability to pay) does the US Military have generally compared to most civilians?

Posted: 1/20/2017 10:17:09 AM EDT

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The Echo looks cool, but I will stick with my Geissle trigger. It works just fine for me.

Posted: 1/20/2017 10:23:31 AM EDT

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does your MG fire again after you release the trigger?

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No, it just keeps firing until I release the trigger.

When you use a MG you primarily use it in short burst of 3-5rds. When you use a binary trigger you use it in shorter bursts of 2 rounds. Semi auto, binary or full auto, you should never leave the target with a finger on the trigger.

Posted: 1/20/2017 10:24:23 AM EDT

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The Echo looks cool, but I will stick with my Geissle trigger. It works just fine for me.

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The Geissele's are just kinda slow

Unfortunately my SD3G has died after ~3,000 rounds

Posted: 1/20/2017 10:25:09 AM EDT

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Bumpfire stock wears off after a couple of mags so not any difference there.

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I just thought it would be a pretty neat advantage to have, considering it's not like you have to use it......but getting 2 shots instead of just 1 could be ok.

It's also not like burst fire isn't already a thing, the military just uses a 3 rd burst instead of 2.....but that's ok. Cheaper than FA and you can put it in any AR.

Posted: 1/20/2017 10:25:56 AM EDT

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How did that work out in practice? How much liability (and ability to pay) does the US Military have generally compared to most civilians?

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That is an argument against machineguns for normal people.

Like I said earlier, don't leave the target with your finger on the trigger - no matter what type of firearm your shooting.

Posted: 1/20/2017 10:26:40 AM EDT

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Are you responsible for every round that leaves the barrel?

Are you committed to shooting two rounds every time you pull the trigger regardless of what's going on down range?

Stupid shit.

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Uhm, you can use semi too. But if I put it on binary, then yes, I'm committed to 2 rounds. It's not like I'm going to pull trigger back, wait 30 seconds, and then release. I'm going to be using this thing for rapid fire.....so those 2 rounds are going to leave the barrel pretty close to each other. No different than FA or Burst.

Posted: 1/20/2017 10:26:55 AM EDT

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I just thought it would be a pretty neat advantage to have, considering it's not like you have to use it......but getting 2 shots instead of just 1 could be ok.

It's also not like burst fire isn't already a thing, the military just uses a 3 rd burst instead of 2.....but that's ok. Cheaper than FA and you can put it in any AR.

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Yep, and in the time a regular AR can do a double, you can put 4 on target.

Posted: 1/20/2017 10:28:14 AM EDT

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Are you responsible for every round that leaves the barrel?

Are you committed to shooting two rounds every time you pull the trigger regardless of what's going on down range?

Stupid shit.

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Incidentally, you could stop the second shot by holding down the trigger and flipping the selector to semi.

In any normal use you will just burst it like a MG.

Posted: 1/20/2017 11:49:16 AM EDT

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I FO'd!!!! Fuck it, I've blown more money on much stupider shit!!!! One rifle out of fifteen or so in the safe will get this installed and hopefully work just as advertised. Possible video after install in a few days.

Posted: 1/20/2017 11:55:18 AM EDT

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No, it just keeps firing until I release the trigger.

When you use a MG you primarily use it in short burst of 3-5rds. When you use a binary trigger you use it in shorter bursts of 2 rounds. Semi auto, binary or full auto, you should never leave the target with a finger on the trigger.

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i am fully aware of how a MG is used. I am also fully aware that these trigger systems are retarded and are going to cause a few people some issues. tossing it an unfamiliar manual of arms along with the excitement of rapid fire is a recipe for fail.

Posted: 1/20/2017 4:56:41 PM EDT

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i am fully aware of how a MG is used. I am also fully aware that these trigger systems are retarded and are going to cause a few people some issues. tossing it an unfamiliar manual of arms along with the excitement of rapid fire is a recipe for fail.

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I'd rather have a real MG, but for $350 to $500 I can hit 650RPM without much trouble. I just can't justify the extra $17,500. If I was a millionaire, I might be able to, but I'm still working on my first million and don't expect to be there for quite a while.

Posted: 1/20/2017 5:02:06 PM EDT

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Franklin does not require a different Bolt carrier.

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I think they are on rev. 2 or 3 of their trigger. Rev. 1 had some compatability issues and Franklin's handling didn't look like something I want to get into.

Posted: 1/20/2017 5:07:39 PM EDT

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Too expensive, cool idea. Besides, I have an out of spec trigger that works exactly as a binary trigger

. Never live fired it but when I built a lower and function checked it worked exactly the same.

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:44:47 AM EDT

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I think they are on rev. 2 or 3 of their trigger. Rev. 1 had some compatability issues and Franklin's handling didn't look like something I want to get into.

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They are on Gen 3. The Gen3 installs almost the same as a standard trigger group. It is no longer a cartridge type trigger like the early models or the ECO trigger.

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:45:29 AM EDT

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Gayer than AIDS.

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:47:05 AM EDT

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What is a binary trigger?

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Good way to burn ammo without the pesky side effect of holes in target.

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:52:49 AM EDT

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Good way to burn ammo without the pesky side effect of holes in target.

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You obviously don't know what your talking about.

Binary triggers are very easy to control and behave on target like machine guns. That means if your any good you will have no problem keeping all your rounds on target at a high rate of fire. If you don't have much experience with machine guns then you will probably have to work on your stance a bit but with a little trigger time it's not hard to control.

Posted: 1/21/2017 1:44:32 AM EDT

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Are you responsible for every round that leaves the barrel?

Are you committed to shooting two rounds every time you pull the trigger regardless of what's going on down range?

Stupid shit.

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Yes I am!

Yes I am. If I am good to fire one I can fire another a split second later. No different than rapid fire. Your reflexes won't know the difference.
You do know you can stop this process inbetween as well right???

Also DU is that way>>>git!

Posted: 1/21/2017 2:21:58 AM EDT

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Good way to burn ammo without the pesky side effect of holes in target.

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maybe if you have rubber arms

Posted: 1/21/2017 11:17:46 AM EDT

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Too expensive, cool idea. Besides, I have an out of spec trigger that works exactly as a binary trigger

. Never live fired it but when I built a lower and function checked it worked exactly the same.

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Last lower I built was doing that. Forget what I did wrong (safety or disconnector) but I fixed it. You might want to look into that. Hammer follow and slam fires are not a good thing unless you enjoy blowing up guns!

Posted: 1/21/2017 11:53:38 AM EDT

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To be fair, the ar15 bcg is designed so the firing pin cannot reach the primer until the bolt lugs have fully rotated makeing it safe for ignition.

Hammer follow won't cause an oob discharge.

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:03:47 PM EDT

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No honest man needs the capability of a binary trigger

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Lol gun owners are our own worst enemies

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:09:50 PM EDT

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Lol gun owners are our own worst enemies

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Pretty sure that's satire. Some of the other responses though...

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:15:51 PM EDT

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Dumbest fucking bull shit I've seen in a while.

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:21:37 PM EDT

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Sometimes you guys are your own worst enemy.

I fully expect to hear someone on this site (maybe this thread?) ask why we need 30 round banana clips soon. Some retard can do a lot of damage with it, it's a liability, so we should infringe the fuck out of everyone's rights.

Leave the rifle on safe, use semi mode, or the binary/echo mode. Know what the fuck your doing.

Posted: 1/21/2017 12:47:33 PM EDT

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Sometimes you guys are your own worst enemy.

I fully expect to hear someone on this site (maybe this thread?) ask why we need 30 round banana clips soon. Some retard can do a lot of damage with it, it's a liability, so we should infringe the fuck out of everyone's rights.

Leave the rifle on safe, use semi mode, or the binary/echo mode. Know what the fuck your doing.

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