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There was a bigfoot thread here a couple years ago that went several pages. Some one claimed to be a bigfoot expert that had seen them many times and had proof but was waiting on the 'right time' to release it. He said the thing would crawl up on you and you wouldn't know it till he was there.
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that's muddydog. if he's still active he'll be along shortly. he is a bigfoot researcher and spends a lot of time tracking them and trying to see them. I will tell you this; the guys who say they would shoot bigfoot if they saw them, I disagree. I had a Tanfoglio 9mm with me and I never even thought of it when i saw him. It would have been like trying to kill an elk with a pellet gun. There is one other thing, when you see a bigfoot, you KNOW it's not a bear. They are intelligent and their eyes and faces look a lot like ours. I could not have shot that bigfoot even if I had a SAW of M2 .50. I would be too afraid you were shooting a person in a costume or some intelligent being. When we saw ours I was half convinced it was a person in a *perfect* costume. Then I saw it move, no human can move like that. Too fast and too strong. I was spending all day with the biggest and fastest people in the country and NONE of them could move anywhere near that fast. I'll tell you this, if you could build an offensive line out of bigfoots, you would never lose a game. Ever. |
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I wonder why there aren't tons of scientist in the woods looking for the Bigfeets?
They could do fly overs at night with infrared cameras, and put tons of game cameras out. I mean saturate any area where the BFs have been sighted. Could you miss a BigFoot with an infrared camera? I don't know that much about the cams abilities, but something walking up right as big as the Big foots, I think they would stick out like a sore thumb. Maybe the forest canopy is to thick to see through. All I've ever seen are these half assed researchers out in the woods, looking for berries and hair. I think a 7' tall 700lb human like primate living in our own backyards would be a big deal, certainly the biggest zoological find in history. We spend tons of money researching all forms of animals all over the world, none of which could compare to the Bigfeets. At least that's what I think. I want our next President to make finding Bigfoot a top priority. If Fred Thompson said finding the Bigfeets was one of his top priorities, and he was personally putting Chuck Norris in charge of the search, all other candidates Republican and dem, would drop right out of the damn race. |
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Chuck Norris is actually a midget sasquatch who shaves. |
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Ahhhhhh Heeeeeee
my ears were burnin.. dudes..and dudettes.. my buddies and i have been in 4 states checking these critters out. some of you remember some of the stuff i have posted in the past, because i still get IM and emails over them. i dont know how many exactly i have a "visual" of..i do know this.. for everyone you will actually see, there are several more in the background, scattered watching you. what you dont know about the patterson film is that what you see is only a very small segment of it. i have a friend that has certain segments of other parts. he tells me and i believe him..there are 2 things that most people dont realize. 1- in the background behind her..there seems to be others hiding, which explains her behavior of walking in the open instead of heading for good cover. 2- while they were filming..a larger one came out from behind them and was walking out to confront them. there are filmed footprints that are massive..supporting this. very rarely do they seem to be a solitary animal. most of time, when we do find tracks ..we find a few more of varying sizes. we have found tracks leading right up to houses..hell..we found some markers in a city of Tulsa Park..near the outskirts of town. one of my favorite places that we hang out at is at a VERY POPULATED lake. camp sites..cabins..tents..RVs.. we find tracks walking right outside where tents had been...going right up to trash cans that are "varmit" proof.. they are scavengers..awesome hunters..and actually pretty cool. i honestly think that 50% of the bear sightings in OK, AR, TX and LA are quadrapedal monkees.. i also think people seriously underestimate the weight on these things. i hear people tell me that they saw one 7ft..400lbs.. they try to equate them with a human..like a basketball player. the ones i have seen..that went 7ft would go 800.. the 2 biggest ones i have seen..were 8-10-ft tall and 800-1000lbs would not be out of the question. this comes from working livestock and working in a custom kill shop. to put things in perspective.. the 9-9.5 footer i saw near a tree stand..verified by a known tree stand height, had a footprint of 23 inches. i have a friend of mine who found a 32 inch set of prints .. do the math on that bad boy;.. find their markers..find water..you'll find them..sooner or later. they seem to migrate short distances..i imagine to keep from depleting food sources. i love to read and hear guys talk tough about what they would do..and how they would do it if them saw one.. they do exactly like i did..the first time i saw one.. one thought would go thru their head.. DDDDdddddaaaaaaammmmmmmmnnnnnnnn if you havent seen one move..you have know idea how quick and fast they are. the deer hunt one group put on while i was in a bottom a few years ago what pure precision.. if you want to know how they run and act.. what that latest version of planet of the apes.. watch the way they have the gorillas run..and match that with the quickness of the chimps. |
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I thought this was going to be a "would 5.56 work on a yeti" thread.
I wouldn't go less than .30-'06 |
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guys, its just a mountain lion that is baked out of its friggin mind! Go make some pot fajitas or some burgers with viagra.
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There's a simple explanation and it's the same reason why you don't see tons of scientists investigating UFO's... Grants. The world of science is driven by grants. If you gain a reputation as one of the "kooks" who investigates cryptozoology, you've lost all credibility and you'll never receive another grant. Scientists who want to keep their career are forced to stick with "normal" things. |
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Yeah, ok. New species of plants and animals are discovered every year in remote places. The world is a whole shit load bigger than you think. |
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Didn't one of the guys who filmed that come out on his death bed and confess that was a hoax? That's an awsome graphic just the same so I saved it. |
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I dont know but its a cool pic and germane to this thread. |
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I saw that NG show, too. I was especially interested in the guys that went out to document how many "unknown" waterfalls they could find. They were expecting to find 4~6 and instead have found over 300(!) unknown/undocumented waterfalls, so far. And that's in a park. There's still LOTS of area in the US that is still unknown. |
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More like... |
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Here's a cool slow-mo done of the Patterson video. Maybe muddydog can walk us through it to better explain what we are seeing.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT-R4Bus5Cs |
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A hermit in a gilly(or even old school trapper furs) suit would probably account for a LOT of supposed sightings. Just think how many crackpots have probably completely moved off the grid to live on their own in the boonies. Anyone ever read the stroy about the hermit that wa able to live self sufficient in Central Park for years without detection? Central park has it's own self sustaining population of deer and coyotes as well. If an area that small can hide large mammals and people I bet there are some out of the box thinkers living in forests all over. ETA...after posting I decided to do a google search. Lots of interesting info out there...LINKY |
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OK, what if...
I'm sitting out in the mountains of CO w/ my trusty .338 Win Mag. I see one of these puppies from afar & decide to ventilate his ass. I get up to the body & realize it's a human in a costume? What happens? I claim mistaken kill (thought it was an elk)? What if it's REAL!? Do I get bum rushed by the chiggas posse when I get close? Do I unleash it on them to? I'm a believer, seen too much to make me wonder. |
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Serious answer: You'd probably go to trial and be okay. From 100 yds plus, a prosecutor is going to be hard pressed to convince a jury that you saw something that looked like a bear or Bigfoot, yet somehow could tell it was really a human in a costume, and decided to shoot them anyway. You best defense would be to go back to the same spot, put somebody the same size as the victim in the suit, take some pictures from the distance you were at, and then get a double-blind review by asking several game wardens, zoologists, knowledgable hunters, maybe a bear researcher, and at least one person who didn't know squat about wildlife or bigfoot to identify the animal in the pictures. They'd give you lots of answers--from 'bear' to 'elk' to 'bigfoot'--but I can gurantee you that none of the responses would be 'a human in a bigfoot suit'. Basically, the prosecutor would have to prove that you knew it was a person, and were out there to kill them. Not gonna happen. 'Course, they might get you on game codes for shooting a bigfoot without proper tags. |
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If it's a human in a suit I'd be terrified a buddy with a camera caught me on tape. I'd make an anonymous call to the authorities and get the FUCK outa there and contact a lawyer ASAP! If it turned out to be the real deal I'd stash the body in a deep freeze and check local laws. Did you know some state legislatures have passed Big Foot protective laws just in case it exists and is endangered? If no protective laws exist in my state I contact the media and reap the rewards. All that being said, I seriously doubt I could EVER shoot a bigfoot if I saw one unless it was rushing at me. Just looking into the eyes and faces of gorillas and chimps at the zoo makes me wish they were out in the wild leading their own lives. Too much humanity in those faces to think they don't have the same basic thoughts and fears about life that we do. I couldn't drop a large bi-pedal primate without being attacked. |
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I happen to be a firm believer that there might be something out there.
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IMO how could there not be something if the sightings have been scattered all across the world for years, it is not like we know or understand everything in our world. Hell we can't even cure a cold. |
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Didn't Patterson admit to faking the film right before he died? I see his son around once or twice a year, I should ask him. |
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He never admitted to it being faked. |
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they do not look anything like a man in a ghillie suit.. even the 6 fters i have seen. primates.. i tell ya.. remember..if you shoot one.. the others are gonna come take that body..and they are gonna be pissed. you wont get a shot off at one in full attack. i hunted and killed alot of big critters.. i have never seen anything move as fast as those critters when they are on all 4's. |
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their will always be bickering back and forth on the film. a man who was in business with patterson to my knowledge told of being in the hoax.. but some of the premier muscular-skeletal biomechanics have verified that no human in a suit could have covered the amount of ground or moved physically in that manner. i will say this.. it is built like some i have seen..MASSIVE all over. |
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Too many people report seeing Bigfoot for the existence of Bigfoot to be dismissed.. Just how many Shaquille O'Neal sized people that wear ghillie suits like to cross roads in the middle of nowhere?
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I really want to believe you but I'll need more evidence than I have seen to date to be made to believe in them. |
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I'm not saying bigfoot doesn't exist it's a big planet but the odds are slim. If he does exist it is the only spiecies on this planet that doesn't mark it's territory with crap, urine or fences. Giant squid exist as they mark the faces of sperm whales so we know they our out there.
Also what is it eating, is it cleaning up after itself so well to not leave a trace? A panda bear has a very limited diet but it doesn't move much either. I was hiking in the grizzly bear recovery zone by yosemite and I wanted to see a bear so bad, what I saw was a beaver in a river from a distance that resembled the head of a grizzly. Had I turned and ran back to camp from fear I would of told everyone I saw a grizzly believing it myself and I am a credible witness. To those posted I truly believe you saw something and it very well could have been a bigfoot but until I see proof it's hard to say 100%. Anything on tv is entertainment first and I've seen them all, many experts are inconclusive over a humans fingerprint simply because it wasn't a good print. I think a demon took shape and was messing with you in the woods. |
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I'll bring the pie. |
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I saw a very clear picture a doctor took from his truck on his own land. He won't let it loose because of what it could do to his practice. It is Bigfoot on all fours. Also videos of them have been taken that are VERY good but they disappeared.. Muddydog knows of one I'm talking about. I've got GPS coordinates of where some have been supposedly sited. One of the places is right off Highway 66 in Oklahoma, less than 250 yards from the pavement. The guy that was telling me about seeing one in that area got scared as hell when I mentioned the young adolescent males snuck around homes where young women were on the rag. It spooked him really bad because of his young wife. The picture by the doctor I mentioned was taken less than 5 miles from that place. He no longer owns the property because of his fear of what could happen if he was associated with Bigfoot. And make no mistake, they are not afraid of humans, even if they are very wary of us. |
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I saw a very clear picture a doctor took from his truck on his own land. He won't let it loose because of what it could do to his practice. It is Bigfoot on all fours. Also videos of them have been taken that are VERY good but they disappeared.. Muddydog knows of one I'm talking about. I've got GPS coordinates of where some have been supposedly sited. One of the places is right off Highway 66 in Oklahoma, less than 250 yards from the pavement. The guy that was telling me about seeing one in that area got scared as hell when I mentioned the young adolescent males snuck around homes where young women were on the rag. It spooked him really bad because of his young wife. The picture by the doctor I mentioned was taken less than 5 miles from that place. He no longer owns the property because of his fear of what could happen if he was associated with Bigfoot. And make no mistake, they are not afraid of humans, even if they are very wary of us.[/quote] Without large weapons, humans would be no match (not saying I believe, I'm not sure). That said, there is no arguing with a .50 BMG. I don't care what you are, you are going down if you take hits. Or, use an AT-4. It's not just anti-tank, it's anti-everything. |
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I was gonna take some beef jerky, ya know, as a peace offering. I don't need any weapons... |
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Too funny, people dismiss evidence from all over the world that is older than our written record. |
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if they get use to you being around..
they will leave stuff for you..thats a fact. everytime i leave a gut pile, you can bet the next time i go to where i was at when i shot, you will find something bright or shiny. a pile of colorful feathers ( red, blue or white) with a stick or rock pegged to the ground or like a bottle or beer can. the neatest can sofar has been an OLLLLLddddddd metal Pabst Blue Ribbon can. its not aluminum. that Concho tape was supposedly freakin AWESOME..that tribe deep sixed that tape asap, after all the council saw it. i know a couple of people who were able to view it and they were stunned. i know of 3 that have been killed in the last 80 years or so. 2 in the last 15. i know that a SKS round to the chest will drop one..and a headshot will cease all movemment. they aint no demon.. they was dragged off by 3 others. the guys involved in that..are some of my best friends. one guy..from a very reliable source..was night hunting over a scrape with a head lamp. one walked up and he smoked its ass with a 30-30 then watched in horror as a couple of these things pulled at it and finally drug it off. another.. an old man told me that when he was a kid his dad smoked one with a double barrel shotgun off the porch. his dad hooked up a team of mules and hauled it to the creek bottom. i have to admit.. the jerky commericals are my favorite.. |
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A picture is worth a thousand words |
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Just because a bigfoot is allegedly large doesn't mean you need a .50 BMG. There are a lot of firearms that will take down hippos, elephants, grizzlies, water buffalo, bison, etc., so I wouldn't ever fear of being outgunned by a primate...just out witted. |
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No. That's an urban legend that somehow got started. Roger Patterson said nothing of the sort when he died and as far as I know Bob Gimlin is still alive and has certainly never said anything of the sort. There was however, a guy who had hoaxed oversized footprints who died some years back. However, this character was known by west coast sasquatch researchers and they knew the kind of shit he did. People have gotten that clown, I think his name was Ray Wallace, mixed up with Roger Patterson because when the hoaxter died it was reported as the "Death of Bigfoot" by CNN. Of course, we all know how "accurate" CNN is. Right. Ray Wallace was alive in the 18th century when American Indians in the northwest carved these things on their totem poles. Ray Wallace found some motherfucker 9 feet tall who weighed 1000 pounds to put on a monkey suit and then hired him to go find a park ranger with 25 years of experience in the outdoors, somehow follow the guy around and then sneak up on him, scare the fuck out of him, and risk getting shot. Between Ray Wallace and Bill Brasky I don't know who is supposed to have accomplished more. |
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